Child killed by Neighborhood Watch captain while walking home

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The most important thing in the story linked above is that forensic experts concluded that it was not Zimmerman crying out for help on the 911 tape. I don't see how anyone could listen to that tape knowing it was Trayvon Martin crying out "help" and "no" and believe there is any case for self-defense. The boy was begging for his life in the final moment.


The forsensic tapes are compete junk science. Would you convict someone based on 51% probability. Cases have gotten throen out for much less. The only evidence is the police report, eye witnesses , video with gash in back of the head and the doctor and paramedics reports. They all exonerate Zimmerman. Mean while thrre have been like 40 other deaths with no coverage


You're off in your interpretation of the findings of the forensic expert. He didn't find that there was a 51% probability that the voice is Zimmerman's. Where are you getting the number 51%, by the way? I haven't seen that number mentioned in regards to this case.

The expert found this:

The software compared that audio to Zimmerman's voice. It returned a 48 percent match. Owen said to reach a positive match with audio of this quality, he'd expect higher than 90 percent.


There is a difference between percent match and probability.

Source: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57407964-504083/screams-on-911-call-not-george-zimmerman-forensic-voice-experts-say/

Also, you say there is a doctor's report as evidence. Where has it been reputably reported that there is a doctor's report? If you're just talking about the claims of Zimmerman's family that there is a doctor's report, that's not evidence so far, it's just a claim made by the shooter's family.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The most important thing in the story linked above is that forensic experts concluded that it was not Zimmerman crying out for help on the 911 tape. I don't see how anyone could listen to that tape knowing it was Trayvon Martin crying out "help" and "no" and believe there is any case for self-defense. The boy was begging for his life in the final moment.


The forsensic tapes are compete junk science. Would you convict someone based on 51% probability. Cases have gotten throen out for much less. The only evidence is the police report, eye witnesses , video with gash in back of the head and the doctor and paramedics reports. They all exonerate Zimmerman. Mean while thrre have been like 40 other deaths with no coverage


You are incorrect about this. It is somewhat difficult to positively ID someone. But it is not difficult to exclude someone. Two separate analysts say that Zimmerman is not the voice, ie they excluded him.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The most important thing in the story linked above is that forensic experts concluded that it was not Zimmerman crying out for help on the 911 tape. I don't see how anyone could listen to that tape knowing it was Trayvon Martin crying out "help" and "no" and believe there is any case for self-defense. The boy was begging for his life in the final moment.


The forsensic tapes are compete junk science. Would you convict someone based on 51% probability. Cases have gotten throen out for much less. The only evidence is the police report, eye witnesses , video with gash in back of the head and the doctor and paramedics reports. They all exonerate Zimmerman. Mean while thrre have been like 40 other deaths with no coverage


You're off in your interpretation of the findings of the forensic expert. He didn't find that there was a 51% probability that the voice is Zimmerman's. Where are you getting the number 51%, by the way? I haven't seen that number mentioned in regards to this case.

The expert found this:

The software compared that audio to Zimmerman's voice. It returned a 48 percent match. Owen said to reach a positive match with audio of this quality, he'd expect higher than 90 percent.


There is a difference between percent match and probability.

Source: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57407964-504083/screams-on-911-call-not-george-zimmerman-forensic-voice-experts-say/

Also, you say there is a doctor's report as evidence. Where has it been reputably reported that there is a doctor's report? If you're just talking about the claims of Zimmerman's family that there is a doctor's report, that's not evidence so far, it's just a claim made by the shooter's family.


The software compared that audio to Zimmerman's voice. It returned a 48 percent match.
Anonymous
^ Yes, that's exactly what I posted. but a 48 percent match does not mean it's 48% likely to be Zimmerman's voice. The forensics expert said that a 90 percent or above match would indicate that the voice belonged to Zimmerman.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The most important thing in the story linked above is that forensic experts concluded that it was not Zimmerman crying out for help on the 911 tape. I don't see how anyone could listen to that tape knowing it was Trayvon Martin crying out "help" and "no" and believe there is any case for self-defense. The boy was begging for his life in the final moment.


The forsensic tapes are compete junk science. Would you convict someone based on 51% probability. Cases have gotten throen out for much less. The only evidence is the police report, eye witnesses , video with gash in back of the head and the doctor and paramedics reports. They all exonerate Zimmerman. Mean while thrre have been like 40 other deaths with no coverage


Oh, really? That's the only evidence, eh?

What about the dead child? Does he count?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The most important thing in the story linked above is that forensic experts concluded that it was not Zimmerman crying out for help on the 911 tape. I don't see how anyone could listen to that tape knowing it was Trayvon Martin crying out "help" and "no" and believe there is any case for self-defense. The boy was begging for his life in the final moment.


The forsensic tapes are compete junk science. Would you convict someone based on 51% probability. Cases have gotten throen out for much less. The only evidence is the police report, eye witnesses , video with gash in back of the head and the doctor and paramedics reports. They all exonerate Zimmerman. Mean while thrre have been like 40 other deaths with no coverage


You're off in your interpretation of the findings of the forensic expert. He didn't find that there was a 51% probability that the voice is Zimmerman's. Where are you getting the number 51%, by the way? I haven't seen that number mentioned in regards to this case.

The expert found this:

The software compared that audio to Zimmerman's voice. It returned a 48 percent match. Owen said to reach a positive match with audio of this quality, he'd expect higher than 90 percent.


There is a difference between percent match and probability.

Source: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57407964-504083/screams-on-911-call-not-george-zimmerman-forensic-voice-experts-say/

Also, you say there is a doctor's report as evidence. Where has it been reputably reported that there is a doctor's report? If you're just talking about the claims of Zimmerman's family that there is a doctor's report, that's not evidence so far, it's just a claim made by the shooter's family.


The software compared that audio to Zimmerman's voice. It returned a 48 percent match.


Yes, a 48% match is very bad. It's like saying you got hair color and eyes right, but not height or gender.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Yes, because Trayvon is a cartoon and decided to resort to Three Stooges antics with someone twice his width. Are you people that f*ing ridiculous? Or that f*ing prejudiced against AAs?


BOTH
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:^ Yes, that's exactly what I posted. but a 48 percent match does not mean it's 48% likely to be Zimmerman's voice. The forensics expert said that a 90 percent or above match would indicate that the voice belonged to Zimmerman.


Is this the sequel to anchorman, it works 48% of the time 90% of the time

Anonymous
Florida special prosecutor Angela Corey plans to announce as early as Wednesday afternoon that she is charging neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman in the shooting of Trayvon Martin, according to a law enforcement official close to the investigation.

Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/george-zimmerman-to-be-charged-in-trayvon-martin-shooting-law-enforcement-official-says/2012/04/11/gIQAHJ5oAT_story.html
Anonymous
and just when zimmerman had made himself at home at hannity's house, he now has to turn himself in soon. damn.....
Anonymous
I predict a suicide or country fleeing by Zimmerman.
Anonymous
put him on trail and he will be found innocent
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:put him on trail and he will be found innocent


That's impossible. You're found ever guilty or not guilty.
Anonymous
*either, not ever
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:put him on trail and he will be found innocent


That's impossible. You're found ever guilty or not guilty.


Judging by the current media description, he could be considered "not guilty by reason of insanity" and committed to a facility. His current actions are starting to sound demented. (this is a joke, folks...not serious).
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