Child killed by Neighborhood Watch captain while walking home

[Anonymous]

Is there a public outcry about this yet? A change.org petition for an arrest? What the gigantic F? Don't forget, in your outrage, to pray for the family of this child. I might try to send them a card. I can't bear to imagine anything like this. As a white parent of a white child, I don't face this particular fear (of my kid being fucking shot because he happens to be black!) and I can barely stnad to imagine what it must be like to worry about it. It makes me so sick! I am nearly in tears thinking of this. And the fury of the injustice is overwhelming.

[Anonymous]

I bet this gets swept under the rug with very limited public outcry because who in this country really cares that much about another dead black boy? I am so upset about this.

[Anonymous]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n14lwdpYkAA

[Anonymous]

(the link above)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:How is this murderer able to claim self-defense? Wouldn't the dead teen be the one using self-defense? If you initiate a confrontation, how are you ever able to claim self-defense. Can any lawyers help me figure this out?

Also, if the scumbag was in his car, he could have easily left his gun there. This guy was looking for a reason to play cop.

He can CLAIM and mount any defense. He can claim insanity. He can claim self-defense. He can claim he wasn't there. He can claim double jeopardy. He can claim he's Santa Claus if he wants to. (If the defense is totally frivolous it will be struck, probably, before it gets to the jury). It's proving the defense that's an issue and whether a judge/jury will believe it. I can mount multiple, even conflicting defenses to a crime if I want to.

Well so far this asshole hasn't even been arrested so ..........................................................

If the DA doesn't bring charges, they should be arrested themselves.

Why? In so much a way you accuse the shooter of vigilante'ism and acting out, you're demanding guilt without knowledge of facts, other than info from rants on DCUM.

I"m not discussing guilt or innocence (although I believe he is guilty). My issue is that this POS hasn't even been arrested. In what world shouldn't this happen?

-He called 911 to report a "suspicious person"
-911 told him not to intervene and that police were on the way
-The man chose to exit his vehicle with his gun.
-An altercation enrsued (I can imagine that this teen told him to "eff off" which is probably what I would have told him. Blacks no longer need walking papers and we are free to walk wherever we please without having to explain our intentions to anybody).
-Somewhere in this altercation, the man pulled his gun and shot the teen

Again, in what world was this murderer not the aggressor?

[Anonymous]

Change.org petition for Trayvon. Please spread the word. I usually don't like to sign these, but I will for this young man. RIP little one.

https://www.change.org/petitions/prosecute-the-murderer-of-17-year-old-trayvon-martin

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Change.org petition for Trayvon. Please spread the word. I usually don't like to sign these, but I will for this young man. RIP little one.

https://www.change.org/petitions/prosecute-the-murderer-of-17-year-old-trayvon-martin

I understand the impulse, but this is just another form of vigilatyism. I think perhaps a federal investigation is in order if the locals don't charge him, but give the prosecutor time to work the case. If Zimmerman is to be arrested the last thing you want is a rushed investigation that makes a mistake that makes it hard to convict.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Change.org petition for Trayvon. Please spread the word. I usually don't like to sign these, but I will for this young man. RIP little one.

https://www.change.org/petitions/prosecute-the-murderer-of-17-year-old-trayvon-martin

I understand the impulse, but this is just another form of vigilatyism. I think perhaps a federal investigation is in order if the locals don't charge him, but give the prosecutor time to work the case. If Zimmerman is to be arrested the last thing you want is a rushed investigation that makes a mistake that makes it hard to convict.

What does an arrest have to do with the speed of the investigation? Wasn't Huguely jailed while police investigated and prosecution built their case? Aren't most people who are suspected of murder?

In what world are you allowed to stay free until the police are 100% sure on all the facts?

[Anonymous]

The vigilante needs to be charged with stalking and a violent hate crime. With the instructions from the police not to follow the child, the perp clearly singled out this child and ignored the explicit instructions from the police because of the child's race. That makes this hate crime and that is a federal charge, not a local charge. And the bigot needs to be arrested and charged. If the locals will not do it, it needs to be a federal case.

This article from the Miami Herald has a lot of details: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/08/2684419/shooting-mystery-miami-dade-teen.html
My favorite line is: "He had a gun, and Trayvon had Skittles," said Benjamin Crump, the family’s attorney. “We want justice.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Change.org petition for Trayvon. Please spread the word. I usually don't like to sign these, but I will for this young man. RIP little one.

https://www.change.org/petitions/prosecute-the-murderer-of-17-year-old-trayvon-martin

I understand the impulse, but this is just another form of vigilatyism. I think perhaps a federal investigation is in order if the locals don't charge him, but give the prosecutor time to work the case. If Zimmerman is to be arrested the last thing you want is a rushed investigation that makes a mistake that makes it hard to convict.

What does an arrest have to do with the speed of the investigation? Wasn't Huguely jailed while police investigated and prosecution built their case? Aren't most people who are suspected of murder?

In what world are you allowed to stay free until the police are 100% sure on all the facts?

We have this little thing called habeas corpus in our country. Maybe you're unfamiliar with it?

You could argue police have sufficient cause to arrest him, I suppose, but he still has legal rights to make bail, etc.

In my experience, fanning the flames of public sentiment in sensitive cases doesn't assist the justice process.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Change.org petition for Trayvon. Please spread the word. I usually don't like to sign these, but I will for this young man. RIP little one.

https://www.change.org/petitions/prosecute-the-murderer-of-17-year-old-trayvon-martin

I understand the impulse, but this is just another form of vigilatyism. I think perhaps a federal investigation is in order if the locals don't charge him, but give the prosecutor time to work the case. If Zimmerman is to be arrested the last thing you want is a rushed investigation that makes a mistake that makes it hard to convict.

What does an arrest have to do with the speed of the investigation? Wasn't Huguely jailed while police investigated and prosecution built their case? Aren't most people who are suspected of murder?

In what world are you allowed to stay free until the police are 100% sure on all the facts?

We have this little thing called habeas corpus in our country. Maybe you're unfamiliar with it?

You could argue police have sufficient cause to arrest him, I suppose, but he still has legal rights to make bail, etc.

In my experience, fanning the flames of public sentiment in sensitive cases doesn't assist the justice process.

I see you did not answer my questions. I will repeat:

What does an arrest have to do with the speed of the investigation? Wasn't Huguely jailed while police investigated and prosecution built their case? Aren't most people who are suspected of murder?

Will you answer these questions directly?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:[I see you did not answer my questions. I will repeat:

What does an arrest have to do with the speed of the investigation? Wasn't Huguely jailed while police investigated and prosecution built their case? Aren't most people who are suspected of murder?

Will you answer these questions directly?

Ok, first of all, we're on the same side here, so stop being so belligerent with me. If you want allies, you're going to have settle the down.

I didn't realize this happened on Feb. 26, so I agree it's odd the dude hasn't been arrested. I thought it happened in the last 24 hours. My mistake.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:[I see you did not answer my questions. I will repeat:

What does an arrest have to do with the speed of the investigation? Wasn't Huguely jailed while police investigated and prosecution built their case? Aren't most people who are suspected of murder?

Will you answer these questions directly?

Ok, first of all, we're on the same side here, so stop being so belligerent with me. If you want allies, you're going to have settle the down.

I didn't realize this happened on Feb. 26, so I agree it's odd the dude hasn't been arrested. I thought it happened in the last 24 hours. My mistake.

How does asking for you to answer my question=belligerent?

I never said you weren't "on my side". I assumed you knew something about the law, so I thought you could provide some insight. I guess not. Thanks anyway.

[Anonymous]

The fact that Zimmerman is now nowhere to be found is scary. What if George Huguely had not been arrested right away? Don't you think his family would have spirited him away before being charged if they could have? I hope this man is brought to justice.

[Anonymous]

I am going to "bump" this article until Zimmerman is arrested.