Stalin in Russia and Mao in China killed around 50 million each. Every fourth Cambodian was killed in their genocide. Around 3 million died during India and Pakistan's partition by British etc. That being said, point isn't to minimize holocaust but highlighting that its not the only trauma worth mentioning. That's an insensitive. |
Not minimizing those horrific killings, but Stalin, Mao, and the Khmer Rouge committed auto-genocides. |
| The dialogue has veered pretty far off course. If this type of debate caused what happened at Nysmith, thank God my kids to not go there! |
What a weird thing to say. Totally ungrammatical, too. Debates don’t cause administrators to make stupid decisions.
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So we should punish Jews by ceasing to teach the Holocaust? You are sick in the head. This saves no Palestinian lives. It just shows that SIX MILLION Jewish lives mean nothing to you. Education isn’t a zero sum game, and we shouldn't stop teaching history because we’re scared it might accidentally make someone sympathetic to Israel. |
| Schools should never stop teaching history. Full stop. No discussion. |
| Nobody anywhere on this thread has said schools should stop teaching history in general or about the Holocaust specifically. |
They are definitely not the only traumatized population of the world. And still, they are now traumatizing another population of people. |
This actual thread refers to Nysmith ceasing their Holocaust remembrance program because of fears that it will make some people uncomfortable. Despite the fact that a few posters have hijacked it to blather about how Jewish people, according to them, are homicidal maniacs.
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Mao and Pol Pot said you’re not serious. China Holocaust up to 70 million deaths. Cambodia Holocaust more than 7 million deaths. |
Really PP? Do you think those victims make a distinction on what you call it. For the survivors it was genocide and traumatic. |
Look, I think Nysmith did a very bad job here, but that's a weirdly specific metric. Yes, Jews are the only group in the last century where 6 million people were killed due to attempted genocide. Okay. But Armenians are the only group who lost 1.5 million people in a state sponsored genocide. Romani are the only group who were almost entirely wiped out during the Holocaust because they were so concentrated in Europe and so few in number anyway. Tutsis are the only group that lost a million members in a three months. Chechens are the only group that lost most boys and men ages 16+ If you draw a specific line, you can make any atrocity unique. |
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Ceasing a Holocaust education program because you’re mad at global Jewry for the acts of the Israeli military is 100% antisemitic.
The fact that any discussion of antisemitism is immediately hijacked by “BUT ISRAEL!!!!!!!” shows exactly what we’re up against. |
Maybe stop screaming antisemitism at every little thing and show some caring for others once in a while. Jews are not the only ones who matter in this world |
“Every little thing” like… ceasing an existing Holocaust education program because you’re mad at global Jewry, because you hold them all responsible for acts of the Israeli military, you mean? There is no reason we cannot continue to teach Holocaust history AND care about the ones you think actually “matter in this world”. Your hatred blinds you. |