Will Ozempic and other drugs like it eliminate obesity?

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Anonymous wrote:Why don’t you just eat less? More raw fruits and veggies. Pound a glass of water first and see if that fills you up.

I hate most unseasoned veggies so if I’m eating them, it’s because I’m actually hungry. A small amount fills me up.

You just have to get over the idea that food should bring you pleasure.

LOL

“You should just get over your biological wiring that has evolved over millions of years to seek out food that tastes good”

Honestly how can some people be so stupid?

Why the name calling? Why do you care that many of us on this thread are able to overcome whatever (wiring or laziness or whatever) and maintain a healthy weight? No one cares that you are obese and want to take a drug to lose weight. There are plenty of healthy, low calorie foods that taste good. When I was having a health issue I went to a provider who advised that I eat and move like my geat grandmother. That generation did not eat processed food or lead sedentary lifestyles. Once I made the changes the health issue disappeared. It wasn't easy and it cost more money and took longer than take out, but I didn't want to take the medicine.

Good luck to you.

I’m very glad you are able to maintain a happy weight without pharmaceutical or surgical intervention. Love that for you. Unfortunately, many many people aren’t. To say that it’s as simple as eating less and moving more is asinine. If it was so simple, nearly half of people in our country wouldn’t be obese.

Pp and others who believe people need to just suck it up and eat healthy believe that obesity is a moral failing, not a medical problem. The rest of us are over here talking about this from a policy and health perspective and they are in another place.

I would say you are definitely on another planet, no doubt. Your argument about obesity being a "moral failing" is hogwash. Choosing to eat horrible food is simply a choice and has nothing to do with morality. Same thing goes for refusing to exercise. I guess some people would call it laziness, but calling it a moral failing is a huge stretch.

By acting like this is 100% about individual food choices and ignoring the innumerable other factors involved you are actually moralising and oversimplifying an extremely complex problem. You merely calling high calorie food “horrible,” is a moral characterization, then you turn around and call overweight people lazy. You are too busy feeling superior to understand the conversation in this thread.

Your post is a total disaster. You're obsessed with portraying yourself as a victim. Please tell us about the innumerable other factors that have turned our society into a bunch of butterballs.

Let’s look at some of the deliberate policy decisions that have led to an obesity epidemic in the US and contrast to our European counterparts who DON’T have these problems:

1. An emphasis on cars and far flung suburbs where the average person cannot conceivably walk anywhere they would want to go
2. Light regulations on the chemicals in our food air and water that cause endocrine disruption and may lead to conditions like PCOS which have a major impact on weight
3. The massive subsidisation of corn, which leads to unhealthy corn based foods being far cheaper than actual produce
4. A highly dysfunctional healthcare system where people do not seek medical care until they have a crisis level issue
5. A culture that emphasizes long working hours without time to rest, reflect, exercise, or prepare healthy foods, no mandatory paid leave

Also, I’m fit, healthy, and have empathy and an education that allows me to see what this is: a policy and healthcare issue, not a moral one.

Well said. You didn’t skip out on the omega-3s that build brain development, I see.

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Anonymous wrote:Why don’t you just eat less? More raw fruits and veggies. Pound a glass of water first and see if that fills you up.

I hate most unseasoned veggies so if I’m eating them, it’s because I’m actually hungry. A small amount fills me up.

You just have to get over the idea that food should bring you pleasure.

Wow, this is groundbreaking. Have you published?? If not you have missed your calling. You should consider submitting an article to the American Journal of Public Health. I hope you at least sent your groundbreaking findings to the CDC, FDA, health and human services etc….they need to know about raw fruits and veggies.

Yes! This is the literature that is missing from PubMed. PP, thank you for educating us—no one had ever thought to eat less before you came along dropping knowledge.

So why don’t you then? Why can some people do it but not you?

Now that I know the secret, surely I will be skinny in no time. I can’t thank you enough.

Yeah but really. What is your answer? Why do you think it should be different for you?

I’m just a fat fat fatty fat fat who can’t stop eating for pleasure!

I hear that Ozempic takes away the craving. That’s why it works and will-power doesn’t. I think the drug is a miracle. Now there is no reason for most people to be obese. Every obese person should try it. No excuse to be fat anymore. That doesn’t stop some people unfortunately. They are smug, hedonistic, and gluttons.

It costs $1000/month for most people. That’s a solid reason not to take it right there.

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Anonymous wrote:Why don’t you just eat less? More raw fruits and veggies. Pound a glass of water first and see if that fills you up.

I hate most unseasoned veggies so if I’m eating them, it’s because I’m actually hungry. A small amount fills me up.

You just have to get over the idea that food should bring you pleasure.

LOL

“You should just get over your biological wiring that has evolved over millions of years to seek out food that tastes good”

Honestly how can some people be so stupid?

Why the name calling? Why do you care that many of us on this thread are able to overcome whatever (wiring or laziness or whatever) and maintain a healthy weight? No one cares that you are obese and want to take a drug to lose weight. There are plenty of healthy, low calorie foods that taste good. When I was having a health issue I went to a provider who advised that I eat and move like my geat grandmother. That generation did not eat processed food or lead sedentary lifestyles. Once I made the changes the health issue disappeared. It wasn't easy and it cost more money and took longer than take out, but I didn't want to take the medicine.

Good luck to you.

I’m very glad you are able to maintain a happy weight without pharmaceutical or surgical intervention. Love that for you. Unfortunately, many many people aren’t. To say that it’s as simple as eating less and moving more is asinine. If it was so simple, nearly half of people in our country wouldn’t be obese.

Pp and others who believe people need to just suck it up and eat healthy believe that obesity is a moral failing, not a medical problem. The rest of us are over here talking about this from a policy and health perspective and they are in another place.

I would say you are definitely on another planet, no doubt. Your argument about obesity being a "moral failing" is hogwash. Choosing to eat horrible food is simply a choice and has nothing to do with morality. Same thing goes for refusing to exercise. I guess some people would call it laziness, but calling it a moral failing is a huge stretch.

By acting like this is 100% about individual food choices and ignoring the innumerable other factors involved you are actually moralising and oversimplifying an extremely complex problem. You merely calling high calorie food “horrible,” is a moral characterization, then you turn around and call overweight people lazy. You are too busy feeling superior to understand the conversation in this thread.

Your post is a total disaster. You're obsessed with portraying yourself as a victim. Please tell us about the innumerable other factors that have turned our society into a bunch of butterballs.

Not that poster, but I don’t think you’d understand the complex and varied other factors even if she tried to explain them to you. There is no point even trying.

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Anonymous wrote:Why don’t you just eat less? More raw fruits and veggies. Pound a glass of water first and see if that fills you up.

I hate most unseasoned veggies so if I’m eating them, it’s because I’m actually hungry. A small amount fills me up.

You just have to get over the idea that food should bring you pleasure.

LOL

“You should just get over your biological wiring that has evolved over millions of years to seek out food that tastes good”

Honestly how can some people be so stupid?

Why the name calling? Why do you care that many of us on this thread are able to overcome whatever (wiring or laziness or whatever) and maintain a healthy weight? No one cares that you are obese and want to take a drug to lose weight. There are plenty of healthy, low calorie foods that taste good. When I was having a health issue I went to a provider who advised that I eat and move like my geat grandmother. That generation did not eat processed food or lead sedentary lifestyles. Once I made the changes the health issue disappeared. It wasn't easy and it cost more money and took longer than take out, but I didn't want to take the medicine.

Good luck to you.

I’m very glad you are able to maintain a happy weight without pharmaceutical or surgical intervention. Love that for you. Unfortunately, many many people aren’t. To say that it’s as simple as eating less and moving more is asinine. If it was so simple, nearly half of people in our country wouldn’t be obese.

Pp and others who believe people need to just suck it up and eat healthy believe that obesity is a moral failing, not a medical problem. The rest of us are over here talking about this from a policy and health perspective and they are in another place.

I would say you are definitely on another planet, no doubt. Your argument about obesity being a "moral failing" is hogwash. Choosing to eat horrible food is simply a choice and has nothing to do with morality. Same thing goes for refusing to exercise. I guess some people would call it laziness, but calling it a moral failing is a huge stretch.

By acting like this is 100% about individual food choices and ignoring the innumerable other factors involved you are actually moralising and oversimplifying an extremely complex problem. You merely calling high calorie food “horrible,” is a moral characterization, then you turn around and call overweight people lazy. You are too busy feeling superior to understand the conversation in this thread.

Your post is a total disaster. You're obsessed with portraying yourself as a victim. Please tell us about the innumerable other factors that have turned our society into a bunch of butterballs.

Let’s look at some of the deliberate policy decisions that have led to an obesity epidemic in the US and contrast to our European counterparts who DON’T have these problems:

1. An emphasis on cars and far flung suburbs where the average person cannot conceivably walk anywhere they would want to go
2. Light regulations on the chemicals in our food air and water that cause endocrine disruption and may lead to conditions like PCOS which have a major impact on weight
3. The massive subsidisation of corn, which leads to unhealthy corn based foods being far cheaper than actual produce
4. A highly dysfunctional healthcare system where people do not seek medical care until they have a crisis level issue
5. A culture that emphasizes long working hours without time to rest, reflect, exercise, or prepare healthy foods, no mandatory paid leave

Also, I’m fit, healthy, and have empathy and an education that allows me to see what this is: a policy and healthcare issue, not a moral one.

Europe? They are obese as well. I know it's en vogue for dems to view europe as some type of paradise.
It's not just a public policy issue. As if someone is preventing people from buying produce because something else is cheaper. Take some responsibility for your health. You are correct that obesity is a healthcare issue in that we all pay for treating people who eat large portions of god awful food.

Here is what Europe looks like:
https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/web/products-eurostat-news/-/ddn-20210721-2

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Anonymous wrote:Why don’t you just eat less? More raw fruits and veggies. Pound a glass of water first and see if that fills you up.

I hate most unseasoned veggies so if I’m eating them, it’s because I’m actually hungry. A small amount fills me up.

You just have to get over the idea that food should bring you pleasure.

LOL

“You should just get over your biological wiring that has evolved over millions of years to seek out food that tastes good”

Honestly how can some people be so stupid?

Why the name calling? Why do you care that many of us on this thread are able to overcome whatever (wiring or laziness or whatever) and maintain a healthy weight? No one cares that you are obese and want to take a drug to lose weight. There are plenty of healthy, low calorie foods that taste good. When I was having a health issue I went to a provider who advised that I eat and move like my geat grandmother. That generation did not eat processed food or lead sedentary lifestyles. Once I made the changes the health issue disappeared. It wasn't easy and it cost more money and took longer than take out, but I didn't want to take the medicine.

Good luck to you.

I’m very glad you are able to maintain a happy weight without pharmaceutical or surgical intervention. Love that for you. Unfortunately, many many people aren’t. To say that it’s as simple as eating less and moving more is asinine. If it was so simple, nearly half of people in our country wouldn’t be obese.

Pp and others who believe people need to just suck it up and eat healthy believe that obesity is a moral failing, not a medical problem. The rest of us are over here talking about this from a policy and health perspective and they are in another place.

I would say you are definitely on another planet, no doubt. Your argument about obesity being a "moral failing" is hogwash. Choosing to eat horrible food is simply a choice and has nothing to do with morality. Same thing goes for refusing to exercise. I guess some people would call it laziness, but calling it a moral failing is a huge stretch.

By acting like this is 100% about individual food choices and ignoring the innumerable other factors involved you are actually moralising and oversimplifying an extremely complex problem. You merely calling high calorie food “horrible,” is a moral characterization, then you turn around and call overweight people lazy. You are too busy feeling superior to understand the conversation in this thread.

Your post is a total disaster. You're obsessed with portraying yourself as a victim. Please tell us about the innumerable other factors that have turned our society into a bunch of butterballs.

Let’s look at some of the deliberate policy decisions that have led to an obesity epidemic in the US and contrast to our European counterparts who DON’T have these problems:

1. An emphasis on cars and far flung suburbs where the average person cannot conceivably walk anywhere they would want to go
2. Light regulations on the chemicals in our food air and water that cause endocrine disruption and may lead to conditions like PCOS which have a major impact on weight
3. The massive subsidisation of corn, which leads to unhealthy corn based foods being far cheaper than actual produce
4. A highly dysfunctional healthcare system where people do not seek medical care until they have a crisis level issue
5. A culture that emphasizes long working hours without time to rest, reflect, exercise, or prepare healthy foods, no mandatory paid leave

Also, I’m fit, healthy, and have empathy and an education that allows me to see what this is: a policy and healthcare issue, not a moral one.

Europe? They are obese as well. I know it's en vogue for dems to view europe as some type of paradise.
It's not just a public policy issue. As if someone is preventing people from buying produce because something else is cheaper. Take some responsibility for your health. You are correct that obesity is a healthcare issue in that we all pay for treating people who eat large portions of god awful food.

Here is what Europe looks like:
https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/web/products-eurostat-news/-/ddn-20210721-2

This link is primarily talking about people who are overweight, not obese, although there is a significant proportion of obese people, primarily in Eastern Europe, now. Overweight is not awesome, but it is not as major of a healthcare and policy crisis as obesity, which is rampant in the US.

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Anonymous wrote:Why don’t you just eat less? More raw fruits and veggies. Pound a glass of water first and see if that fills you up.

I hate most unseasoned veggies so if I’m eating them, it’s because I’m actually hungry. A small amount fills me up.

You just have to get over the idea that food should bring you pleasure.

LOL

“You should just get over your biological wiring that has evolved over millions of years to seek out food that tastes good”

Honestly how can some people be so stupid?

Why the name calling? Why do you care that many of us on this thread are able to overcome whatever (wiring or laziness or whatever) and maintain a healthy weight? No one cares that you are obese and want to take a drug to lose weight. There are plenty of healthy, low calorie foods that taste good. When I was having a health issue I went to a provider who advised that I eat and move like my geat grandmother. That generation did not eat processed food or lead sedentary lifestyles. Once I made the changes the health issue disappeared. It wasn't easy and it cost more money and took longer than take out, but I didn't want to take the medicine.

Good luck to you.

I’m very glad you are able to maintain a happy weight without pharmaceutical or surgical intervention. Love that for you. Unfortunately, many many people aren’t. To say that it’s as simple as eating less and moving more is asinine. If it was so simple, nearly half of people in our country wouldn’t be obese.

Pp and others who believe people need to just suck it up and eat healthy believe that obesity is a moral failing, not a medical problem. The rest of us are over here talking about this from a policy and health perspective and they are in another place.

I would say you are definitely on another planet, no doubt. Your argument about obesity being a "moral failing" is hogwash. Choosing to eat horrible food is simply a choice and has nothing to do with morality. Same thing goes for refusing to exercise. I guess some people would call it laziness, but calling it a moral failing is a huge stretch.

By acting like this is 100% about individual food choices and ignoring the innumerable other factors involved you are actually moralising and oversimplifying an extremely complex problem. You merely calling high calorie food “horrible,” is a moral characterization, then you turn around and call overweight people lazy. You are too busy feeling superior to understand the conversation in this thread.

Your post is a total disaster. You're obsessed with portraying yourself as a victim. Please tell us about the innumerable other factors that have turned our society into a bunch of butterballs.

Let’s look at some of the deliberate policy decisions that have led to an obesity epidemic in the US and contrast to our European counterparts who DON’T have these problems:

1. An emphasis on cars and far flung suburbs where the average person cannot conceivably walk anywhere they would want to go
2. Light regulations on the chemicals in our food air and water that cause endocrine disruption and may lead to conditions like PCOS which have a major impact on weight
3. The massive subsidisation of corn, which leads to unhealthy corn based foods being far cheaper than actual produce
4. A highly dysfunctional healthcare system where people do not seek medical care until they have a crisis level issue
5. A culture that emphasizes long working hours without time to rest, reflect, exercise, or prepare healthy foods, no mandatory paid leave

Also, I’m fit, healthy, and have empathy and an education that allows me to see what this is: a policy and healthcare issue, not a moral one.

Europe? They are obese as well. I know it's en vogue for dems to view europe as some type of paradise.
It's not just a public policy issue. As if someone is preventing people from buying produce because something else is cheaper. Take some responsibility for your health. You are correct that obesity is a healthcare issue in that we all pay for treating people who eat large portions of god awful food.

Here is what Europe looks like:
https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/web/products-eurostat-news/-/ddn-20210721-2

Do you think if you just keep repeating this, it will eventually work? Genuinely curious.

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Anonymous wrote:Why don’t you just eat less? More raw fruits and veggies. Pound a glass of water first and see if that fills you up.

I hate most unseasoned veggies so if I’m eating them, it’s because I’m actually hungry. A small amount fills me up.

You just have to get over the idea that food should bring you pleasure.

LOL

“You should just get over your biological wiring that has evolved over millions of years to seek out food that tastes good”

Honestly how can some people be so stupid?

Why the name calling? Why do you care that many of us on this thread are able to overcome whatever (wiring or laziness or whatever) and maintain a healthy weight? No one cares that you are obese and want to take a drug to lose weight. There are plenty of healthy, low calorie foods that taste good. When I was having a health issue I went to a provider who advised that I eat and move like my geat grandmother. That generation did not eat processed food or lead sedentary lifestyles. Once I made the changes the health issue disappeared. It wasn't easy and it cost more money and took longer than take out, but I didn't want to take the medicine.

Good luck to you.

I’m very glad you are able to maintain a happy weight without pharmaceutical or surgical intervention. Love that for you. Unfortunately, many many people aren’t. To say that it’s as simple as eating less and moving more is asinine. If it was so simple, nearly half of people in our country wouldn’t be obese.

Pp and others who believe people need to just suck it up and eat healthy believe that obesity is a moral failing, not a medical problem. The rest of us are over here talking about this from a policy and health perspective and they are in another place.

I would say you are definitely on another planet, no doubt. Your argument about obesity being a "moral failing" is hogwash. Choosing to eat horrible food is simply a choice and has nothing to do with morality. Same thing goes for refusing to exercise. I guess some people would call it laziness, but calling it a moral failing is a huge stretch.

By acting like this is 100% about individual food choices and ignoring the innumerable other factors involved you are actually moralising and oversimplifying an extremely complex problem. You merely calling high calorie food “horrible,” is a moral characterization, then you turn around and call overweight people lazy. You are too busy feeling superior to understand the conversation in this thread.

Your post is a total disaster. You're obsessed with portraying yourself as a victim. Please tell us about the innumerable other factors that have turned our society into a bunch of butterballs.

Let’s look at some of the deliberate policy decisions that have led to an obesity epidemic in the US and contrast to our European counterparts who DON’T have these problems:

1. An emphasis on cars and far flung suburbs where the average person cannot conceivably walk anywhere they would want to go
2. Light regulations on the chemicals in our food air and water that cause endocrine disruption and may lead to conditions like PCOS which have a major impact on weight
3. The massive subsidisation of corn, which leads to unhealthy corn based foods being far cheaper than actual produce
4. A highly dysfunctional healthcare system where people do not seek medical care until they have a crisis level issue
5. A culture that emphasizes long working hours without time to rest, reflect, exercise, or prepare healthy foods, no mandatory paid leave

Also, I’m fit, healthy, and have empathy and an education that allows me to see what this is: a policy and healthcare issue, not a moral one.

Talk about a laundry list of excuses
1. I can't possibly work out because there aren't enough sidewalks! And the sidewalks don't go to the gym...damnit!
2. The food air chemicals are making me fat! And same with the water! You know Flint and those pipes and that story! Water is making me fat!
3. No veggies for me because Twinkies and ChocoTacos are cheaper! YUM YUM
4. Even though over 90% of Americans have health insurance, I had to wait 2 months to see inner ear specialist so had to stuff my face while waiting.
5. After working 8 hours/day and playing with my phone for 2 hour, it's so hard to find time to cook chicken breast for 7 minutes in my George Foreman grill. Not enough time, girlfriend! I'd definitely cook more if I had some vaca time! Oh well, a girl can dream!

I'm hot and smart as a whip!

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Anonymous wrote:Why don’t you just eat less? More raw fruits and veggies. Pound a glass of water first and see if that fills you up.

I hate most unseasoned veggies so if I’m eating them, it’s because I’m actually hungry. A small amount fills me up.

You just have to get over the idea that food should bring you pleasure.

LOL

“You should just get over your biological wiring that has evolved over millions of years to seek out food that tastes good”

Honestly how can some people be so stupid?

Why the name calling? Why do you care that many of us on this thread are able to overcome whatever (wiring or laziness or whatever) and maintain a healthy weight? No one cares that you are obese and want to take a drug to lose weight. There are plenty of healthy, low calorie foods that taste good. When I was having a health issue I went to a provider who advised that I eat and move like my geat grandmother. That generation did not eat processed food or lead sedentary lifestyles. Once I made the changes the health issue disappeared. It wasn't easy and it cost more money and took longer than take out, but I didn't want to take the medicine.

Good luck to you.

I’m very glad you are able to maintain a happy weight without pharmaceutical or surgical intervention. Love that for you. Unfortunately, many many people aren’t. To say that it’s as simple as eating less and moving more is asinine. If it was so simple, nearly half of people in our country wouldn’t be obese.

Pp and others who believe people need to just suck it up and eat healthy believe that obesity is a moral failing, not a medical problem. The rest of us are over here talking about this from a policy and health perspective and they are in another place.

I would say you are definitely on another planet, no doubt. Your argument about obesity being a "moral failing" is hogwash. Choosing to eat horrible food is simply a choice and has nothing to do with morality. Same thing goes for refusing to exercise. I guess some people would call it laziness, but calling it a moral failing is a huge stretch.

By acting like this is 100% about individual food choices and ignoring the innumerable other factors involved you are actually moralising and oversimplifying an extremely complex problem. You merely calling high calorie food “horrible,” is a moral characterization, then you turn around and call overweight people lazy. You are too busy feeling superior to understand the conversation in this thread.

Your post is a total disaster. You're obsessed with portraying yourself as a victim. Please tell us about the innumerable other factors that have turned our society into a bunch of butterballs.

Let’s look at some of the deliberate policy decisions that have led to an obesity epidemic in the US and contrast to our European counterparts who DON’T have these problems:

1. An emphasis on cars and far flung suburbs where the average person cannot conceivably walk anywhere they would want to go
2. Light regulations on the chemicals in our food air and water that cause endocrine disruption and may lead to conditions like PCOS which have a major impact on weight
3. The massive subsidisation of corn, which leads to unhealthy corn based foods being far cheaper than actual produce
4. A highly dysfunctional healthcare system where people do not seek medical care until they have a crisis level issue
5. A culture that emphasizes long working hours without time to rest, reflect, exercise, or prepare healthy foods, no mandatory paid leave

Also, I’m fit, healthy, and have empathy and an education that allows me to see what this is: a policy and healthcare issue, not a moral one.

Talk about a laundry list of excuses
1. I can't possibly work out because there aren't enough sidewalks! And the sidewalks don't go to the gym...damnit!
2. The food air chemicals are making me fat! And same with the water! You know Flint and those pipes and that story! Water is making me fat!
3. No veggies for me because Twinkies and ChocoTacos are cheaper! YUM YUM
4. Even though over 90% of Americans have health insurance, I had to wait 2 months to see inner ear specialist so had to stuff my face while waiting.
5. After working 8 hours/day and playing with my phone for 2 hour, it's so hard to find time to cook chicken breast for 7 minutes in my George Foreman grill. Not enough time, girlfriend! I'd definitely cook more if I had some vaca time! Oh well, a girl can dream!

I'm hot and smart as a whip!

Omg you’re unhinged

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i'm on one of these drugs, mainly for an elevated A1C (diabetes test). My BMI was in the middle of the overweight category when I stared but I was never obese
(rather just chubby--picture a mom of 3 with the small spare tire type of shape).
It's fascinating what the medication does to my appetite--I simply do not get hungry and when I do eat I immediately lose interest in what I'm eating.
I actually find myself getting depressed on the med because the joy of eating is pretty much gone. You know the fun of going out to a new restaurant?
Enjoying an interesting meal? Savoring something that tastes good? All of this is gone and I miss enjoying these things (if that makes sense).

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Anonymous wrote:Why don’t you just eat less? More raw fruits and veggies. Pound a glass of water first and see if that fills you up.

I hate most unseasoned veggies so if I’m eating them, it’s because I’m actually hungry. A small amount fills me up.

You just have to get over the idea that food should bring you pleasure.

LOL

“You should just get over your biological wiring that has evolved over millions of years to seek out food that tastes good”

Honestly how can some people be so stupid?

Why the name calling? Why do you care that many of us on this thread are able to overcome whatever (wiring or laziness or whatever) and maintain a healthy weight? No one cares that you are obese and want to take a drug to lose weight. There are plenty of healthy, low calorie foods that taste good. When I was having a health issue I went to a provider who advised that I eat and move like my geat grandmother. That generation did not eat processed food or lead sedentary lifestyles. Once I made the changes the health issue disappeared. It wasn't easy and it cost more money and took longer than take out, but I didn't want to take the medicine.

Good luck to you.

I’m very glad you are able to maintain a happy weight without pharmaceutical or surgical intervention. Love that for you. Unfortunately, many many people aren’t. To say that it’s as simple as eating less and moving more is asinine. If it was so simple, nearly half of people in our country wouldn’t be obese.

Approximately 10 percent of U.S. adults were classified as having obesity during the 1950s. Today it is over 41 percent. Do you think lifestyle choices such as big gulps, fast food, driving vs walking, desk jobs, and watching TV has anything to do with the increase? What has changed? Why was 90 percent of the population a healthy weight then?

You’re sooo close to the point. Telling people to eat less and move more does not fix any of the above. It also doesn’t help people be less fat. So we can either overhaul society and fix the current food and lifestyle environment (not likely) or encourage the use of tools like Ozempic etc to help people achieve and maintain a healthy weight in our current environment.

Telling people may not help, but making lifestyle changes does help.

These are comments from someone taking Ozempic:

“I just kept gaining weight. I couldn’t lose it no matter what I did. I could eat salads for months, still couldn’t lose it.” “It was a constant struggle.”

K, who is prediabetic, found out her health insurance does cover Ozempic.

She began treatment in August 2021 and has lost 50 pounds since — 40 of which she attributes to the drug. She injects herself once a week in her stomach and describes the medicine’s effect as making her feel fuller faster.

“My complete diet has changed. I used to be able to eat a whole pizza and be completely fine and get it down. Now, if I try to get down like two slices, I feel completely sick. It’s too much grease. Greasy food in general is really hard for me,”

It's great that science and medicine are advancing and these drugs are available AND we need to overhaul society by getting people to understand it's best to eat one slice of pizza along with other filling, but not high calorie foods instead of the entire pizza or other greasy food and understand that it takes time to see the changes. More people have successfully lost and maintained with lifestyle changes than these drugs that's why I don't get the posters who insist that suggesting different food choices and more movement is judging or shaming.

Omg, how are you not getting this? You understand that without the Ozempic, two slices wouldn’t fill her up right? She was still really hungry after just two pieces. She knew it was best not to eat a whole pizza before, she isn’t a moron, but she was hungry and it’s not sustainable for most people to be hungry day in and day out long term. Her body wanted the calories it needed to support her weight, whatever it was, and her hunger reflected that. She couldn’t implement the lifestyle changes without the drug.

DP. This is interesting. More and more we are witnessing disclosures about overweight people in fact eating more ("are more hungry"), than others. In the past, almost by default we'd hear in RL and most posts on this forum, that they don't really eat that much; it's was often explained by genetics or/and some undiagnosed condition.

You hear what you want to hear. You don’t seem to understand the complexity of obesity so I would not expect you to understand the nuance of hunger either.

Not really. You are making it more complex and complicated, because it's embarrassing to admit that you did eat more than others your whole life. And with this drug you'll eat less - which is the only way to lose weight. Those are the facts.

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Anonymous wrote:I think society should just accept that people can be fat and healthy.

Perhaps up to a certain point. But just watch a few episodes of 600 lb life... those people can barely move and no one can call them healthy. That's what happens eventually if you keep gaining weight.

DP. Have you seen Eugenia Cooney, Karen Carpenter, or other completely emaciated women ... those people can barely survive (Karen didn't) as their organs fail and no one can call them healthy. That's what happens eventually if you keep losing weight.

Corollary question: can you see why comparing everyone in a group to extremes is offensive and stupid?

Again, yes, it is also bad to be too skinny, just as it is to be too fat.

Why do you promote such an unhealthy lifestyle? Do you not understand what people who are destroying their lives and bodies through anorexia are doing?

What? I'm promoting healthy eating and exercise. Anorexia and obesity are both bad.

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Anonymous wrote:Why don’t you just eat less? More raw fruits and veggies. Pound a glass of water first and see if that fills you up.

I hate most unseasoned veggies so if I’m eating them, it’s because I’m actually hungry. A small amount fills me up.

You just have to get over the idea that food should bring you pleasure.

LOL

“You should just get over your biological wiring that has evolved over millions of years to seek out food that tastes good”

Honestly how can some people be so stupid?

Why the name calling? Why do you care that many of us on this thread are able to overcome whatever (wiring or laziness or whatever) and maintain a healthy weight? No one cares that you are obese and want to take a drug to lose weight. There are plenty of healthy, low calorie foods that taste good. When I was having a health issue I went to a provider who advised that I eat and move like my geat grandmother. That generation did not eat processed food or lead sedentary lifestyles. Once I made the changes the health issue disappeared. It wasn't easy and it cost more money and took longer than take out, but I didn't want to take the medicine.

Good luck to you.

I’m very glad you are able to maintain a happy weight without pharmaceutical or surgical intervention. Love that for you. Unfortunately, many many people aren’t. To say that it’s as simple as eating less and moving more is asinine. If it was so simple, nearly half of people in our country wouldn’t be obese.

Approximately 10 percent of U.S. adults were classified as having obesity during the 1950s. Today it is over 41 percent. Do you think lifestyle choices such as big gulps, fast food, driving vs walking, desk jobs, and watching TV has anything to do with the increase? What has changed? Why was 90 percent of the population a healthy weight then?

You’re sooo close to the point. Telling people to eat less and move more does not fix any of the above. It also doesn’t help people be less fat. So we can either overhaul society and fix the current food and lifestyle environment (not likely) or encourage the use of tools like Ozempic etc to help people achieve and maintain a healthy weight in our current environment.

Telling people may not help, but making lifestyle changes does help.

These are comments from someone taking Ozempic:

“I just kept gaining weight. I couldn’t lose it no matter what I did. I could eat salads for months, still couldn’t lose it.” “It was a constant struggle.”

K, who is prediabetic, found out her health insurance does cover Ozempic.

She began treatment in August 2021 and has lost 50 pounds since — 40 of which she attributes to the drug. She injects herself once a week in her stomach and describes the medicine’s effect as making her feel fuller faster.

“My complete diet has changed. I used to be able to eat a whole pizza and be completely fine and get it down. Now, if I try to get down like two slices, I feel completely sick. It’s too much grease. Greasy food in general is really hard for me,”

It's great that science and medicine are advancing and these drugs are available AND we need to overhaul society by getting people to understand it's best to eat one slice of pizza along with other filling, but not high calorie foods instead of the entire pizza or other greasy food and understand that it takes time to see the changes. More people have successfully lost and maintained with lifestyle changes than these drugs that's why I don't get the posters who insist that suggesting different food choices and more movement is judging or shaming.

Citation or hard evidence for the bolded? Please show me hard evidence that more people have lost weight and kept it off using lifestyle changes than the drugs. Thank you.

The drugs are relatively new for weight loss...

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Anonymous wrote:Why don’t you just eat less? More raw fruits and veggies. Pound a glass of water first and see if that fills you up.

I hate most unseasoned veggies so if I’m eating them, it’s because I’m actually hungry. A small amount fills me up.

You just have to get over the idea that food should bring you pleasure.

LOL

“You should just get over your biological wiring that has evolved over millions of years to seek out food that tastes good”

Honestly how can some people be so stupid?

Why the name calling? Why do you care that many of us on this thread are able to overcome whatever (wiring or laziness or whatever) and maintain a healthy weight? No one cares that you are obese and want to take a drug to lose weight. There are plenty of healthy, low calorie foods that taste good. When I was having a health issue I went to a provider who advised that I eat and move like my geat grandmother. That generation did not eat processed food or lead sedentary lifestyles. Once I made the changes the health issue disappeared. It wasn't easy and it cost more money and took longer than take out, but I didn't want to take the medicine.

Good luck to you.

I’m very glad you are able to maintain a happy weight without pharmaceutical or surgical intervention. Love that for you. Unfortunately, many many people aren’t. To say that it’s as simple as eating less and moving more is asinine. If it was so simple, nearly half of people in our country wouldn’t be obese.

Approximately 10 percent of U.S. adults were classified as having obesity during the 1950s. Today it is over 41 percent. Do you think lifestyle choices such as big gulps, fast food, driving vs walking, desk jobs, and watching TV has anything to do with the increase? What has changed? Why was 90 percent of the population a healthy weight then?

You’re sooo close to the point. Telling people to eat less and move more does not fix any of the above. It also doesn’t help people be less fat. So we can either overhaul society and fix the current food and lifestyle environment (not likely) or encourage the use of tools like Ozempic etc to help people achieve and maintain a healthy weight in our current environment.

Telling people may not help, but making lifestyle changes does help.

These are comments from someone taking Ozempic:

“I just kept gaining weight. I couldn’t lose it no matter what I did. I could eat salads for months, still couldn’t lose it.” “It was a constant struggle.”

K, who is prediabetic, found out her health insurance does cover Ozempic.

She began treatment in August 2021 and has lost 50 pounds since — 40 of which she attributes to the drug. She injects herself once a week in her stomach and describes the medicine’s effect as making her feel fuller faster.

“My complete diet has changed. I used to be able to eat a whole pizza and be completely fine and get it down. Now, if I try to get down like two slices, I feel completely sick. It’s too much grease. Greasy food in general is really hard for me,”

It's great that science and medicine are advancing and these drugs are available AND we need to overhaul society by getting people to understand it's best to eat one slice of pizza along with other filling, but not high calorie foods instead of the entire pizza or other greasy food and understand that it takes time to see the changes. More people have successfully lost and maintained with lifestyle changes than these drugs that's why I don't get the posters who insist that suggesting different food choices and more movement is judging or shaming.

Omg, how are you not getting this? You understand that without the Ozempic, two slices wouldn’t fill her up right? She was still really hungry after just two pieces. She knew it was best not to eat a whole pizza before, she isn’t a moron, but she was hungry and it’s not sustainable for most people to be hungry day in and day out long term. Her body wanted the calories it needed to support her weight, whatever it was, and her hunger reflected that. She couldn’t implement the lifestyle changes without the drug.

DP. This is interesting. More and more we are witnessing disclosures about overweight people in fact eating more ("are more hungry"), than others. In the past, almost by default we'd hear in RL and most posts on this forum, that they don't really eat that much; it's was often explained by genetics or/and some undiagnosed condition.

I think this is a good question that I am also trying to understand. If you are overweight/obese (before taking drugs), is it because:

1) You eat primarily healthy food but are still hungry, so you end up eating large quantities. And that made you gain weight.

2) You eat some healthy food but are still hungry, so you round it out with eating some fattening/unhealthy foods.

3) You are constantly hungry and basically eat whatever you want, as much as you want.

I'm trying to understand what the drug does to fix this. Does it make you less hungry for all foods? Does it make healthy foods seem more appealing than pizza and ice cream?

I have always been average weight and I find it almost impossible to eat if I am not hungry. Like, if there is an office party in the afternoon and I am still full from lunch, I can barely get a slice of cake down even if I really want to. I also have an aversion to overly sweet foods (they make my teeth hurt) so naturally don't eat desserts.

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Anonymous wrote:Why don’t you just eat less? More raw fruits and veggies. Pound a glass of water first and see if that fills you up.

I hate most unseasoned veggies so if I’m eating them, it’s because I’m actually hungry. A small amount fills me up.

You just have to get over the idea that food should bring you pleasure.

LOL

“You should just get over your biological wiring that has evolved over millions of years to seek out food that tastes good”

Honestly how can some people be so stupid?

Why the name calling? Why do you care that many of us on this thread are able to overcome whatever (wiring or laziness or whatever) and maintain a healthy weight? No one cares that you are obese and want to take a drug to lose weight. There are plenty of healthy, low calorie foods that taste good. When I was having a health issue I went to a provider who advised that I eat and move like my geat grandmother. That generation did not eat processed food or lead sedentary lifestyles. Once I made the changes the health issue disappeared. It wasn't easy and it cost more money and took longer than take out, but I didn't want to take the medicine.

Good luck to you.

I’m very glad you are able to maintain a happy weight without pharmaceutical or surgical intervention. Love that for you. Unfortunately, many many people aren’t. To say that it’s as simple as eating less and moving more is asinine. If it was so simple, nearly half of people in our country wouldn’t be obese.

Approximately 10 percent of U.S. adults were classified as having obesity during the 1950s. Today it is over 41 percent. Do you think lifestyle choices such as big gulps, fast food, driving vs walking, desk jobs, and watching TV has anything to do with the increase? What has changed? Why was 90 percent of the population a healthy weight then?

You’re sooo close to the point. Telling people to eat less and move more does not fix any of the above. It also doesn’t help people be less fat. So we can either overhaul society and fix the current food and lifestyle environment (not likely) or encourage the use of tools like Ozempic etc to help people achieve and maintain a healthy weight in our current environment.

Telling people may not help, but making lifestyle changes does help.

These are comments from someone taking Ozempic:

“I just kept gaining weight. I couldn’t lose it no matter what I did. I could eat salads for months, still couldn’t lose it.” “It was a constant struggle.”

K, who is prediabetic, found out her health insurance does cover Ozempic.

She began treatment in August 2021 and has lost 50 pounds since — 40 of which she attributes to the drug. She injects herself once a week in her stomach and describes the medicine’s effect as making her feel fuller faster.

“My complete diet has changed. I used to be able to eat a whole pizza and be completely fine and get it down. Now, if I try to get down like two slices, I feel completely sick. It’s too much grease. Greasy food in general is really hard for me,”

It's great that science and medicine are advancing and these drugs are available AND we need to overhaul society by getting people to understand it's best to eat one slice of pizza along with other filling, but not high calorie foods instead of the entire pizza or other greasy food and understand that it takes time to see the changes. More people have successfully lost and maintained with lifestyle changes than these drugs that's why I don't get the posters who insist that suggesting different food choices and more movement is judging or shaming.

Citation or hard evidence for the bolded? Please show me hard evidence that more people have lost weight and kept it off using lifestyle changes than the drugs. Thank you.

Using these drugs for weight loss is something that started a few years ago. Losing with lifestyle changes has being happening forever.

In their own words: Topic analysis of the motivations and strategies of over 6,000 long-term weight-loss maintainers. The first large-scale study to allow weight-loss maintainers to share what helped them succeed in their own words — was published in 2022 in the journal Obesity.

Long-term weight loss maintenance. Abstract
There is a general perception that almost no one succeeds in long-term maintenance of weight loss. However, research has shown that approximately 20% of overweight individuals are successful at long-term weight loss when defined as losing at least 10% of initial body weight and maintaining the loss for at least 1 y. The National Weight Control Registry provides information about the strategies used by successful weight loss maintainers to achieve and maintain long-term weight loss.

Dr. Dennis Gage, MD, FACP of Park Avenue Endocrinology and Nutrition says approximately 11% of people who try WW have long term success. That's over 500,000 people.
He also says. "As with any diet program, progress is highly likely to be lost if a person's eating habits are not changed permanently."

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Anonymous wrote:Why don’t you just eat less? More raw fruits and veggies. Pound a glass of water first and see if that fills you up.

I hate most unseasoned veggies so if I’m eating them, it’s because I’m actually hungry. A small amount fills me up.

You just have to get over the idea that food should bring you pleasure.

LOL

“You should just get over your biological wiring that has evolved over millions of years to seek out food that tastes good”

Honestly how can some people be so stupid?

Why the name calling? Why do you care that many of us on this thread are able to overcome whatever (wiring or laziness or whatever) and maintain a healthy weight? No one cares that you are obese and want to take a drug to lose weight. There are plenty of healthy, low calorie foods that taste good. When I was having a health issue I went to a provider who advised that I eat and move like my geat grandmother. That generation did not eat processed food or lead sedentary lifestyles. Once I made the changes the health issue disappeared. It wasn't easy and it cost more money and took longer than take out, but I didn't want to take the medicine.

Good luck to you.

I’m very glad you are able to maintain a happy weight without pharmaceutical or surgical intervention. Love that for you. Unfortunately, many many people aren’t. To say that it’s as simple as eating less and moving more is asinine. If it was so simple, nearly half of people in our country wouldn’t be obese.

Approximately 10 percent of U.S. adults were classified as having obesity during the 1950s. Today it is over 41 percent. Do you think lifestyle choices such as big gulps, fast food, driving vs walking, desk jobs, and watching TV has anything to do with the increase? What has changed? Why was 90 percent of the population a healthy weight then?

You’re sooo close to the point. Telling people to eat less and move more does not fix any of the above. It also doesn’t help people be less fat. So we can either overhaul society and fix the current food and lifestyle environment (not likely) or encourage the use of tools like Ozempic etc to help people achieve and maintain a healthy weight in our current environment.

Telling people may not help, but making lifestyle changes does help.

These are comments from someone taking Ozempic:

“I just kept gaining weight. I couldn’t lose it no matter what I did. I could eat salads for months, still couldn’t lose it.” “It was a constant struggle.”

K, who is prediabetic, found out her health insurance does cover Ozempic.

She began treatment in August 2021 and has lost 50 pounds since — 40 of which she attributes to the drug. She injects herself once a week in her stomach and describes the medicine’s effect as making her feel fuller faster.

“My complete diet has changed. I used to be able to eat a whole pizza and be completely fine and get it down. Now, if I try to get down like two slices, I feel completely sick. It’s too much grease. Greasy food in general is really hard for me,”

It's great that science and medicine are advancing and these drugs are available AND we need to overhaul society by getting people to understand it's best to eat one slice of pizza along with other filling, but not high calorie foods instead of the entire pizza or other greasy food and understand that it takes time to see the changes. More people have successfully lost and maintained with lifestyle changes than these drugs that's why I don't get the posters who insist that suggesting different food choices and more movement is judging or shaming.

Citation or hard evidence for the bolded? Please show me hard evidence that more people have lost weight and kept it off using lifestyle changes than the drugs. Thank you.

Using these drugs for weight loss is something that started a few years ago. Losing with lifestyle changes has being happening forever.

In their own words: Topic analysis of the motivations and strategies of over 6,000 long-term weight-loss maintainers. The first large-scale study to allow weight-loss maintainers to share what helped them succeed in their own words — was published in 2022 in the journal Obesity.

Long-term weight loss maintenance. Abstract
There is a general perception that almost no one succeeds in long-term maintenance of weight loss. However, research has shown that approximately 20% of overweight individuals are successful at long-term weight loss when defined as losing at least 10% of initial body weight and maintaining the loss for at least 1 y. The National Weight Control Registry provides information about the strategies used by successful weight loss maintainers to achieve and maintain long-term weight loss.

Dr. Dennis Gage, MD, FACP of Park Avenue Endocrinology and Nutrition says approximately 11% of people who try WW have long term success. That's over 500,000 people.
He also says. "As with any diet program, progress is highly likely to be lost if a person's eating habits are not changed permanently."

10% of body weight? That was 25 pounds for me at my highest weight and would have taken me from obese to slightly less obese. So 20% of people can maintain that much for a year. I wonder how many can maintain a 30% loss for longer than 5 years. Hint: it’s much much smaller than 20%. Almost no one can do it without surgery or drugs.