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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymou[i]s][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Why don’t you just eat less? More raw fruits and veggies. Pound a glass of water first and see if that fills you up.

I hate most unseasoned veggies so if I’m eating them, it’s because I’m actually hungry. A small amount fills me up.

You just have to get over the idea that food should bring you pleasure.[/quote]

LOL

“You should just get over your biological wiring that has evolved over millions of years to seek out food that tastes good”

Honestly how can some people be so stupid? [/quote]

Why the name calling? Why do you care that many of us on this thread are able to overcome whatever (wiring or laziness or whatever) and maintain a healthy weight? No one cares that you are obese and want to take a drug to lose weight. There are plenty of healthy, low calorie foods that taste good. When I was having a health issue I went to a provider who advised that I eat and move like my geat grandmother. That generation did not eat processed food or lead sedentary lifestyles. Once I made the changes the health issue disappeared. It wasn't easy and it cost more money and took longer than take out, but I didn't want to take the medicine.

Good luck to you.[/quote]

I’m very glad you are able to maintain a happy weight without pharmaceutical or surgical intervention. Love that for you. Unfortunately, many many people aren’t. To say that it’s as simple as eating less and moving more is asinine. If it was so simple, nearly half of people in our country wouldn’t be obese. [/quote]

Approximately 10 percent of U.S. adults were classified as having obesity during the 1950s. Today it is over 41 percent. Do you think lifestyle choices such as big gulps, fast food, driving vs walking, desk jobs, and watching TV has anything to do with the increase? What has changed? Why was 90 percent of the population a healthy weight then?[/quote]

You’re sooo close to the point. Telling people to eat less and move more does not fix any of the above. It also doesn’t help people be less fat. So we can either overhaul society and fix the current food and lifestyle environment (not likely) or encourage the use of tools like Ozempic etc to help people achieve and maintain a healthy weight in our current environment. [/quote]

Telling people may not help, but making lifestyle changes does help.

These are comments from someone taking Ozempic:

“I just kept gaining weight. I couldn’t lose it no matter what I did. I could eat salads for months, still couldn’t lose it.” “It was a constant struggle.”

K, who is prediabetic, found out her health insurance does cover Ozempic.

She began treatment in August 2021 and has lost 50 pounds since — 40 of which she attributes to the drug. She injects herself once a week in her stomach and describes the medicine’s effect as making her feel fuller faster.

“My complete diet has changed. I used to be able to eat a whole pizza and be completely fine and get it down. Now, if I try to get down like two slices, I feel completely sick. It’s too much grease. Greasy food in general is really hard for me,”

It's great that science and medicine are advancing and these drugs are available AND we need to overhaul society by getting people to understand it's best to eat one slice of pizza along with other filling, but not high calorie foods instead of the entire pizza or other greasy food and understand that it takes time to see the changes. [b]More people have successfully lost and maintained with lifestyle changes than these drugs [/b]that's why I don't get the posters who insist that suggesting different food choices and more movement is judging or shaming.

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Citation or hard evidence for the bolded? Please show me hard evidence that more people have lost weight and kept it off using lifestyle changes than the drugs. Thank you. [/quote]

Using these drugs for weight loss is something that started a few years ago. Losing with lifestyle changes has being happening forever.

In their own words: Topic analysis of the motivations and strategies of over 6,000 long-term weight-loss maintainers. The first large-scale study to allow weight-loss maintainers to share what helped them succeed in their own words — was published in 2022 in the journal Obesity.

Long-term weight loss maintenance. Abstract
There is a general perception that almost no one succeeds in long-term maintenance of weight loss. However, research has shown that approximately 20% of overweight individuals are successful at long-term weight loss when defined as losing at least 10% of initial body weight and maintaining the loss for at least 1 y. The National Weight Control Registry provides information about the strategies used by successful weight loss maintainers to achieve and maintain long-term weight loss.

Dr. Dennis Gage, MD, FACP of Park Avenue Endocrinology and Nutrition says approximately 11% of people who try WW have long term success. That's over 500,000 people.
He also says. "As with any diet program, progress is highly likely to be lost if a person's eating habits are not changed permanently."
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10% of body weight? That was 25 pounds for me at my highest weight and would have taken me from obese to slightly less obese. So 20% of people can maintain that much for a year. I wonder how many can maintain a 30% loss for longer than 5 years. Hint: it’s much much smaller than 20%. Almost no one can do it without surgery or drugs. [/quote]

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