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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Why don’t you just eat less? More raw fruits and veggies. Pound a glass of water first and see if that fills you up. I hate most unseasoned veggies so if I’m eating them, it’s because I’m actually hungry. A small amount fills me up. You just have to get over the idea that food should bring you pleasure.[/quote] LOL “You should just get over your biological wiring that has evolved over millions of years to seek out food that tastes good” Honestly how can some people be so stupid? [/quote] Why the name calling? Why do you care that many of us on this thread are able to overcome whatever (wiring or laziness or whatever) and maintain a healthy weight? No one cares that you are obese and want to take a drug to lose weight. There are plenty of healthy, low calorie foods that taste good. When I was having a health issue I went to a provider who advised that I eat and move like my geat grandmother. That generation did not eat processed food or lead sedentary lifestyles. Once I made the changes the health issue disappeared. It wasn't easy and it cost more money and took longer than take out, but I didn't want to take the medicine. Good luck to you.[/quote] I’m very glad you are able to maintain a happy weight without pharmaceutical or surgical intervention. Love that for you. Unfortunately, many many people aren’t. To say that it’s as simple as eating less and moving more is asinine. If it was so simple, nearly half of people in our country wouldn’t be obese. [/quote] Pp and others who believe people need to just suck it up and eat healthy believe that obesity is a moral failing, not a medical problem. The rest of us are over here talking about this from a policy and health perspective and they are in another place.[/quote] I would say you are definitely on another planet, no doubt. Your argument about obesity being a "moral failing" is hogwash. Choosing to eat horrible food is simply a choice and has nothing to do with morality. Same thing goes for refusing to exercise. I guess some people would call it laziness, but calling it a moral failing is a huge stretch. [/quote] By acting like this is 100% about individual food choices and ignoring the innumerable other factors involved you are actually moralising and oversimplifying an extremely complex problem. You merely calling high calorie food “horrible,” is a moral characterization, then you turn around and call overweight people lazy. You are too busy feeling superior to understand the conversation in this thread. [/quote] Your post is a total disaster. You're obsessed with portraying yourself as a victim. Please tell us about the innumerable other factors that have turned our society into a bunch of butterballs.[/quote] Let’s look at some of the deliberate policy decisions that have led to an obesity epidemic in the US and contrast to our European counterparts who DON’T have these problems: 1. An emphasis on cars and far flung suburbs where the average person cannot conceivably walk anywhere they would want to go 2. Light regulations on the chemicals in our food air and water that cause endocrine disruption and may lead to conditions like PCOS which have a major impact on weight 3. The massive subsidisation of corn, which leads to unhealthy corn based foods being far cheaper than actual produce 4. A highly dysfunctional healthcare system where people do not seek medical care until they have a crisis level issue 5. A culture that emphasizes long working hours without time to rest, reflect, exercise, or prepare healthy foods, no mandatory paid leave Also, I’m fit, healthy, and have empathy and an education that allows me to see what this is: a policy and healthcare issue, not a moral one.[/quote] Europe? They are obese as well. I know it's en vogue for dems to view europe as some type of paradise. It's not just a public policy issue. As if someone is preventing people from buying produce because something else is cheaper. Take some responsibility for your health. You are correct that obesity is a healthcare issue in that we all pay for treating people who eat large portions of god awful food. Here is what Europe looks like: [url]https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/web/products-eurostat-news/-/ddn-20210721-2[/url] [/quote] This link is primarily talking about people who are overweight, not obese, although there is a significant proportion of obese people, primarily in Eastern Europe, now. Overweight is not awesome, but it is not as major of a healthcare and policy crisis as obesity, which is rampant in the US.[/quote]
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