2022 Olympics

[Anonymous]

This is obviously what happened. She wasn't willing to give up her US citizenship (and the protections it provides), and China agreed to bend (put kindly) their own laws so that she would be able to compete for them. She's obviously not willing to admit that, of course.

At the moment she has more than 16% of China's total medals in these Olympics.

I've been watching the daily IOC press briefings, due to the Valieva case, and they're regularly asked questions about Eileen Gu's citizenship too (and the Chinese hockey team) and they don't want to admit her status either.

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Anonymous wrote:How horrific is it that a 15 year old was given a cardiac medication for performance enhancement?
I mean, she's f-ing 15. She has youth and a freaking ton of natural energy. And yet, they wanted to eek out what, an hour more of practice per day?
At the expense of possibly damaging her heart?

Seriously, this is the stuff of nightmares.

It isn't just to practice longer, it's so they have more stamina at the end of their long program, which is huge advantage in the scoring system. Remember, in the 2018 olympics, the difference between the gold and silver was that the gold medalist put most of her triples in the second half of her long program, which earns you extra points. The gold medalist had the same coach as Kamila.

And at last year's World, the gold medal winner (same Russian coach) was so out of breath after her short program and there was a rumor that she was sick and could barely stay awake. Then during the long program, she was flawless and looked as if she had enough stamina for a redo if necessary.

Yep...Currently, you get a 10 percent bonus for up to three jumps that are performed in the last half of the long program. Because it's a percentage bonus and not a flat amount, It's to your advantage to have enough stamina to pull off some of the hardest jumps in the second half, which is difficult.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How horrific is it that a 15 year old was given a cardiac medication for performance enhancement?
I mean, she's f-ing 15. She has youth and a freaking ton of natural energy. And yet, they wanted to eek out what, an hour more of practice per day?
At the expense of possibly damaging her heart?

Seriously, this is the stuff of nightmares.

It isn't just to practice longer, it's so they have more stamina at the end of their long program, which is huge advantage in the scoring system. Remember, in the 2018 olympics, the difference between the gold and silver was that the gold medalist put most of her triples in the second half of her long program, which earns you extra points. The gold medalist had the same coach as Kamila.

And at last year's World, the gold medal winner (same Russian coach) was so out of breath after her short program and there was a rumor that she was sick and could barely stay awake. Then during the long program, she was flawless and looked as if she had enough stamina for a redo if necessary.

I have no doubt all the russians are being given PEDs, but I'm not sure they'd risk it in the middle of an actual competition like Worlds where testing is a given. Most likely the "doctor" F-ed up with the dosing too close to Russian nationals and that was why Kamila still had some in her system.

But it's clear now that the whole testing system is a farce and not good enough. Everyone's railing about Kamila being allowed to compete but does anyone really believe that the other two russian skaters are "clean"? It's all a joke.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How horrific is it that a 15 year old was given a cardiac medication for performance enhancement?
I mean, she's f-ing 15. She has youth and a freaking ton of natural energy. And yet, they wanted to eek out what, an hour more of practice per day?
At the expense of possibly damaging her heart?

Seriously, this is the stuff of nightmares.

It isn't just to practice longer, it's so they have more stamina at the end of their long program, which is huge advantage in the scoring system. Remember, in the 2018 olympics, the difference between the gold and silver was that the gold medalist put most of her triples in the second half of her long program, which earns you extra points. The gold medalist had the same coach as Kamila.

And at last year's World, the gold medal winner (same Russian coach) was so out of breath after her short program and there was a rumor that she was sick and could barely stay awake. Then during the long program, she was flawless and looked as if she had enough stamina for a redo if necessary.

I have no doubt all the russians are being given PEDs, but I'm not sure they'd risk it in the middle of an actual competition like Worlds where testing is a given. Most likely the "doctor" F-ed up with the dosing too close to Russian nationals and that was why Kamila still had some in her system.

But it's clear now that the whole testing system is a farce and not good enough. Everyone's railing about Kamila being allowed to compete but does anyone really believe that the other two russian skaters are "clean"? It's all a joke.

Nope. Which is why I won't be watching.

[Anonymous]

You could tell Johnny and Tara were seething with rage during their commentary - they barely tried to conceal it - whereas Terry kept saying, remember, she’s only 15!

[Anonymous]

Is there a way to watch the competitions I’ve missed after the fact? I missed the men’s skating and tried to watch during the day on Sunday and the only option seemed to be paying for coverage on Peacock. Is that correct?

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Anonymous wrote:You could tell Johnny and Tara were seething with rage during their commentary - they barely tried to conceal it - whereas Terry kept saying, remember, she’s only 15!

I didn't bother watching the skating but saw an interview of the 2 decrying the decision to let Kamila skate. They were pretty clear on where they stood. And really, being 15 shouldn't give her a free pass to doping or reaping the advantage from doping

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Anonymous wrote:Is there a way to watch the competitions I’ve missed after the fact? I missed the men’s skating and tried to watch during the day on Sunday and the only option seemed to be paying for coverage on Peacock. Is that correct?

You can find a lot of the programs on the Olympic YouTube channel, and maybe some OnDemand if you have cable (I haven't checked this cycle, but usually they post some of the content on Fios, with lots more footage on Comcast, due to the NBC connection.) Otherwise, you have to pay for Peacock, but you can always cancel after you're done, since it's month to month.

[Anonymous]

She skated well but can't get a medal. She will go and represent China in 4 years.

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Anonymous wrote:I see Ms. Gu is back tonight.

She is insufferable. (I don't even care that much about competing for a different country, but every interview I see makes me like her less.)

I have to say, she's pretty transparent, and I am more kindly disposed to her than most. As soon as she finishes a run, she tucks away her mouthguard, lifts up her goggles, and smiles and waves to the camera. It's freakin' subzero temps, all the other athletes are keeping covered up, but she obviously has been told (whether by the Chinese government or her mother, for marketing purposes, to show her face and interact with the cameras a much as possible.

That said, I have developed a strong dislike for the French skier Tess [insert last name]. Her disappointment last night was fine, and understandable, but she couldn't even hold it together to accept condolences from the other skiers on her fall. But during big air, she performed very well and got a silver, but pitched a fit when she was surpassed for the gold. That's just bad sportsmanship. I'm glad she isn't in the half pipe.

Yeah that is not cool but I thought A Swiss woman won the ski freestyle? - nearly all the women waiting for their scores were taking off their masks to smile for the cameras in the - I remember as I wanted all of them to cover up - you could see their noses turning red in that short time

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Anonymous wrote:I see Ms. Gu is back tonight.

She is insufferable. (I don't even care that much about competing for a different country, but every interview I see makes me like her less.)

I have to say, she's pretty transparent, and I am more kindly disposed to her than most. As soon as she finishes a run, she tucks away her mouthguard, lifts up her goggles, and smiles and waves to the camera. It's freakin' subzero temps, all the other athletes are keeping covered up, but she obviously has been told (whether by the Chinese government or her mother, for marketing purposes, to show her face and interact with the cameras a much as possible.

That said, I have developed a strong dislike for the French skier Tess [insert last name]. Her disappointment last night was fine, and understandable, but she couldn't even hold it together to accept condolences from the other skiers on her fall. But during big air, she performed very well and got a silver, but pitched a fit when she was surpassed for the gold. That's just bad sportsmanship. I'm glad she isn't in the half pipe.

Yeah that is not cool but I thought A Swiss woman won the ski freestyle? - nearly all the women waiting for their scores were taking off their masks to smile for the cameras in the - I remember as I wanted all of them to cover up - you could see their noses turning red in that short time

Are they all contracted to smile for the cameras ? Just about all the athletes smile and wave for the cameras when the camera is on the them outside of competing … anyway I actually like it even if it is contrived …

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Anonymous wrote:You could tell Johnny and Tara were seething with rage during their commentary - they barely tried to conceal it - whereas Terry kept saying, remember, she’s only 15!

I didn't bother watching the skating but saw an interview of the 2 decrying the decision to let Kamila skate. They were pretty clear on where they stood. And really, being 15 shouldn't give her a free pass to doping or reaping the advantage from doping

Yeah, I’m the PP and I agree. Compete with adults, be accountable like the adults.

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Anonymous wrote:You could tell Johnny and Tara were seething with rage during their commentary - they barely tried to conceal it - whereas Terry kept saying, remember, she’s only 15!

I didn't bother watching the skating but saw an interview of the 2 decrying the decision to let Kamila skate. They were pretty clear on where they stood. And really, being 15 shouldn't give her a free pass to doping or reaping the advantage from doping

Which is slightly amusing given that Johnny has been such a Russian cheerleader up until now.

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Anonymous wrote:Is there a way to watch the competitions I’ve missed after the fact? I missed the men’s skating and tried to watch during the day on Sunday and the only option seemed to be paying for coverage on Peacock. Is that correct?

You can find a lot of the programs on the Olympic YouTube channel, and maybe some OnDemand if you have cable (I haven't checked this cycle, but usually they post some of the content on Fios, with lots more footage on Comcast, due to the NBC connection.) Otherwise, you have to pay for Peacock, but you can always cancel after you're done, since it's month to month.

Thank you.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is there a way to watch the competitions I’ve missed after the fact? I missed the men’s skating and tried to watch during the day on Sunday and the only option seemed to be paying for coverage on Peacock. Is that correct?

You can find a lot of the programs on the Olympic YouTube channel, and maybe some OnDemand if you have cable (I haven't checked this cycle, but usually they post some of the content on Fios, with lots more footage on Comcast, due to the NBC connection.) Otherwise, you have to pay for Peacock, but you can always cancel after you're done, since it's month to month.

Thank you.

Also, NBC will air re-play ladies skates in prime time tonight, since they were on so early in the morning today.