New Additions to Leagues Check Up (ECNL & GA)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:anyways.. When does Tophat to ECNL get announced?

When the 2 leagues merge in 2030

It will never happen; the GA Commissioner's ego is huge. She has an interesting personal agenda, just ask your GA Director they know all about it

Do tell

Ask any male coach or director in the league how she speaks to them, her anti-male in women's sports messaging is clear to everyone. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, but youth soccer leagues should be about providing the best for those players, thats it.

I've heard her speak and have spoken to her a few times. I've also seen her interact with a lot of coaches and players and have never seen any of this messaging. I do think we need more female coaches in general and I have heard her say that. If you interpret that to be anti-male I don't know what to tell you.

Everyone can agree that more female coaches are needed, and resources need to be provided to give them the opportunity and development. That is nothing to do with the issue, it is how she speaks to/about male coaches in the league, all of whom are working hard for the players.

Again, we can have different opinions, that is America, and it's great. It is an opinion shared by many, as may be yours.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All signs are pointing at two clubs.

TH
STA

STA has already announced tryouts for GA. Obviously things can change (see CISC).

TH is not likely due to the history of DA/ECNL.

Genuine question… What is the backstory of DA/ECNL that would prohibit TH from being included but did not keep all the other DA founding clubs out of ECNL? What makes TH so different? You would that it couldn’t be that bad if their boys play ECNL.

Club histories often go back 20+ years and even then people in leadership positions often go back even farther. Ive even heard of coaches not liking other coaches or clubs from their playing days.

Overall its just how things work out when you give arrogant and dumb sports jock people money and power.

In THs case they went to DA which pissed off Christian then the local ECNL clubs banded together not letting TH in. But TH doesnt really care and just continues winning which frustrates those that are against them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:anyways.. When does Tophat to ECNL get announced?

When the 2 leagues merge in 2030

It will never happen; the GA Commissioner's ego is huge. She has an interesting personal agenda, just ask your GA Director they know all about it

Do tell

Ask any male coach or director in the league how she speaks to them, her anti-male in women's sports messaging is clear to everyone. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, but youth soccer leagues should be about providing the best for those players, thats it.

I don't buy it. She has hired a number of males and the board has some new males too

No problem, I have no need for you to "buy it". It is the experience of a lot of people, so not a sour grapes from any one individual. People have to "take it" a bit as they can't exactly up and move to another league, but it is real. Go have honest conversations with people and you can find out, if you chose not to, thats your choice

Are you the IHS/ IAMYouthSoccer Guy? C'mon tell us you are!
-No one around here in the DMV has this level of insight you are posting about here in this forum!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:anyways.. When does Tophat to ECNL get announced?

When the 2 leagues merge in 2030

It will never happen; the GA Commissioner's ego is huge. She has an interesting personal agenda, just ask your GA Director they know all about it

Do tell

Ask any male coach or director in the league how she speaks to them, her anti-male in women's sports messaging is clear to everyone. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, but youth soccer leagues should be about providing the best for those players, thats it.

I've heard her speak and have spoken to her a few times. I've also seen her interact with a lot of coaches and players and have never seen any of this messaging. I do think we need more female coaches in general and I have heard her say that. If you interpret that to be anti-male I don't know what to tell you.

Everyone can agree that more female coaches are needed, and resources need to be provided to give them the opportunity and development. That is nothing to do with the issue, it is how she speaks to/about male coaches in the league, all of whom are working hard for the players.

Again, we can have different opinions, that is America, and it's great. It is an opinion shared by many, as may be yours.

Im a guy and nothing makes me more angry than grown men yelling at little girls. Its pervasive in competitive soccer. So I get where shes coming from.

[Anonymous]

th appears to be in a strong position regardless of the outcome.

Scenario 1: The club remains in the Girls Academy (GA) and continues operating as it currently does, with the boys remaining in ECNL.

Scenario 2: The club stays in GA on the girls’ side, while the boys transition to MLS Next. This scenario would likely create competitive tension with local ECNL Clubs.

Scenario 3: The girls move to ECNL with two teams per age group, while the boys remain in ECNL.

Each of these paths allows the club to maintain a high level of platform placement and competitive positioning.

[Anonymous]

GA has a great event and all the haters seem to congregate here trying to run it and now its leader down. How nonsurprising!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:anyways.. When does Tophat to ECNL get announced?

When the 2 leagues merge in 2030

It will never happen; the GA Commissioner's ego is huge. She has an interesting personal agenda, just ask your GA Director they know all about it

Do tell

Ask any male coach or director in the league how she speaks to them, her anti-male in women's sports messaging is clear to everyone. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, but youth soccer leagues should be about providing the best for those players, thats it.

I've heard her speak and have spoken to her a few times. I've also seen her interact with a lot of coaches and players and have never seen any of this messaging. I do think we need more female coaches in general and I have heard her say that. If you interpret that to be anti-male I don't know what to tell you.

Everyone can agree that more female coaches are needed, and resources need to be provided to give them the opportunity and development. That is nothing to do with the issue, it is how she speaks to/about male coaches in the league, all of whom are working hard for the players.

Again, we can have different opinions, that is America, and it's great. It is an opinion shared by many, as may be yours.

Im a guy and nothing makes me more angry than grown men yelling at little girls. Its pervasive in competitive soccer. So I get where shes coming from.

There’s some brutal female coaches in the league as well. There are some great female coaches in the league, same for male.

Sweeping generalizations both ways are dangerous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:th appears to be in a strong position regardless of the outcome.

Scenario 1: The club remains in the Girls Academy (GA) and continues operating as it currently does, with the boys remaining in ECNL.

Scenario 2: The club stays in GA on the girls’ side, while the boys transition to MLS Next. This scenario would likely create competitive tension with local ECNL Clubs.

Scenario 3: The girls move to ECNL with two teams per age group, while the boys remain in ECNL.

Each of these paths allows the club to maintain a high level of platform placement and competitive positioning.

I don’t see them getting two ECNL spots (Nationals had 2 GA and only got 1 ECNL, Lonestar had 2 GA and only got 1 RL). It seems th GA is rewarding more clubs with 2 spots, and ECNL seems to be going away from that (a couple 2 club programs have lost their second spot).

That maybe a deal breaker for Tophat. It’s a tough debate either way I am sure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All signs are pointing at two clubs.

TH
STA

STA has already announced tryouts for GA. Obviously things can change (see CISC).

TH is not likely due to the history of DA/ECNL.

Genuine question… What is the backstory of DA/ECNL that would prohibit TH from being included but did not keep all the other DA founding clubs out of ECNL? What makes TH so different? You would that it couldn’t be that bad if their boys play ECNL.

Club histories often go back 20+ years and even then people in leadership positions often go back even farther. Ive even heard of coaches not liking other coaches or clubs from their playing days.

Overall its just how things work out when you give arrogant and dumb sports jock people money and power.

In THs case they went to DA which pissed off Christian then the local ECNL clubs banded together not letting TH in. But TH doesnt really care and just continues winning which frustrates those that are against them.

I just wondered what made them so special to be left out. Almost all the other DA defectors were let back in (eventually). I guess their ECNL neighbors have veto rights.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All signs are pointing at two clubs.

TH
STA

STA has already announced tryouts for GA. Obviously things can change (see CISC).

TH is not likely due to the history of DA/ECNL.

Genuine question… What is the backstory of DA/ECNL that would prohibit TH from being included but did not keep all the other DA founding clubs out of ECNL? What makes TH so different? You would that it couldn’t be that bad if their boys play ECNL.

girls were ecnl. they left to go da. then when da went bankrupt, they arrogantly thought ecnl would welcome them back in. nope. plus a lot of the other ecnl teams in Atlanta have either blocked them or made a big stink about letting them back in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:th appears to be in a strong position regardless of the outcome.

Scenario 1: The club remains in the Girls Academy (GA) and continues operating as it currently does, with the boys remaining in ECNL.

Scenario 2: The club stays in GA on the girls’ side, while the boys transition to MLS Next. This scenario would likely create competitive tension with local ECNL Clubs.

Scenario 3: The girls move to ECNL with two teams per age group, while the boys remain in ECNL.

Each of these paths allows the club to maintain a high level of platform placement and competitive positioning.

I don’t see them getting two ECNL spots (Nationals had 2 GA and only got 1 ECNL, Lonestar had 2 GA and only got 1 RL). It seems th GA is rewarding more clubs with 2 spots, and ECNL seems to be going away from that (a couple 2 club programs have lost their second spot).

That maybe a deal breaker for Tophat. It’s a tough debate either way I am sure.

Has a 2nd team ever done anything in a top league OR is it just a spot of hoard talent from nearby competitors?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:th appears to be in a strong position regardless of the outcome.

Scenario 1: The club remains in the Girls Academy (GA) and continues operating as it currently does, with the boys remaining in ECNL.

Scenario 2: The club stays in GA on the girls’ side, while the boys transition to MLS Next. This scenario would likely create competitive tension with local ECNL Clubs.

Scenario 3: The girls move to ECNL with two teams per age group, while the boys remain in ECNL.

Each of these paths allows the club to maintain a high level of platform placement and competitive positioning.

I don’t see them getting two ECNL spots (Nationals had 2 GA and only got 1 ECNL, Lonestar had 2 GA and only got 1 RL). It seems th GA is rewarding more clubs with 2 spots, and ECNL seems to be going away from that (a couple 2 club programs have lost their second spot).

That maybe a deal breaker for Tophat. It’s a tough debate either way I am sure.

there is no "deal breaker" for Tophat. Tophat has been begging along with very, very vocal parents trying to get back into ecnl every year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All signs are pointing at two clubs.

TH
STA

STA has already announced tryouts for GA. Obviously things can change (see CISC).

TH is not likely due to the history of DA/ECNL.

Genuine question… What is the backstory of DA/ECNL that would prohibit TH from being included but did not keep all the other DA founding clubs out of ECNL? What makes TH so different? You would that it couldn’t be that bad if their boys play ECNL.

Club histories often go back 20+ years and even then people in leadership positions often go back even farther. Ive even heard of coaches not liking other coaches or clubs from their playing days.

Overall its just how things work out when you give arrogant and dumb sports jock people money and power.

In THs case they went to DA which pissed off Christian then the local ECNL clubs banded together not letting TH in. But TH doesnt really care and just continues winning which frustrates those that are against them.

I just wondered what made them so special to be left out. Almost all the other DA defectors were let back in (eventually). I guess their ECNL neighbors have veto rights.

When DA blew up Christian had an opportunity to bring ALL clubs in but chose to be petty and play favorites.

This is what allowed GA and MLSN to create national leagues. MLSN was going to happen either way but GA was created by clubs that ECNL wouldnt let in when DA blew up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:th appears to be in a strong position regardless of the outcome.

Scenario 1: The club remains in the Girls Academy (GA) and continues operating as it currently does, with the boys remaining in ECNL.

Scenario 2: The club stays in GA on the girls’ side, while the boys transition to MLS Next. This scenario would likely create competitive tension with local ECNL Clubs.

Scenario 3: The girls move to ECNL with two teams per age group, while the boys remain in ECNL.

Each of these paths allows the club to maintain a high level of platform placement and competitive positioning.

I don’t see them getting two ECNL spots (Nationals had 2 GA and only got 1 ECNL, Lonestar had 2 GA and only got 1 RL). It seems th GA is rewarding more clubs with 2 spots, and ECNL seems to be going away from that (a couple 2 club programs have lost their second spot).

That maybe a deal breaker for Tophat. It’s a tough debate either way I am sure.

there is no "deal breaker" for Tophat. Tophat has been begging along with very, very vocal parents trying to get back into ecnl every year.

Top hat has not been begging to get into ECNL. There are some parents that started a Kickstarter campaign to get into ECNL. But the club itself doesnt care and will be successful in whatever league they play in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:th appears to be in a strong position regardless of the outcome.

Scenario 1: The club remains in the Girls Academy (GA) and continues operating as it currently does, with the boys remaining in ECNL.

Scenario 2: The club stays in GA on the girls’ side, while the boys transition to MLS Next. This scenario would likely create competitive tension with local ECNL Clubs.

Scenario 3: The girls move to ECNL with two teams per age group, while the boys remain in ECNL.

Each of these paths allows the club to maintain a high level of platform placement and competitive positioning.

I don’t see them getting two ECNL spots (Nationals had 2 GA and only got 1 ECNL, Lonestar had 2 GA and only got 1 RL). It seems th GA is rewarding more clubs with 2 spots, and ECNL seems to be going away from that (a couple 2 club programs have lost their second spot).

That maybe a deal breaker for Tophat. It’s a tough debate either way I am sure.

Has a 2nd team ever done anything in a top league OR is it just a spot of hoard talent from nearby competitors?

Nationals had a group, I believe the 07s whose 2nd team lost in the National QFs years ago in OT.

NEFC is first year into having two but seem to have been successful with their second groups (college commitments, etc)

Overall though I feel no club should have a second spot in any league, if it’s meant to truly be the best of the clubs in any league.