Wuhan virus (coronavirus) arrives in the USA

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Anonymous wrote:CDC just issued policies including school tele-learning, telework focus, cancelling large gathering.

Better get your TP asap (though if the water is off, not sure how great that is?)

These are POSSIBLE recommendations IF we had a pandemic. Jesus, you guys have a hard time separating actual news from hypotheticals.

Please stop thinking it is a hypothetical. There WILL BE outbreaks in the United States, people WILL BE quarantined, and there WILL BE cancelations of school and social gatherings. It's just a question of when.

Other countries (except maybe Iran) are doing what they can to slow the spread of the disease, to give everyone time to prepare and to give scientists and medical professionals time to create a vaccine and treatments. The WHO doctor that just returned from China is calling for a Manhattan Project type of collaboration among scientists. https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1232323122654826497.html

Everyone personally should be using this time to prepare themselves and their families - both materially and psychologically - for something they've never seen before. A complete disruption of our lives. Think the worst snowstorm to ever hit Washington - a foot of snow falling every day for a month - prepare for that. Maybe it won't happen here, but just be prepared.

The US colleges had a huge return of Chinese students studying in the US in the month of January, right in the middle of the worst of this. Can you explain why there are virtually NO cases in US colleges?

If you don't test for cases, cases do not exist.

Or I guess you could say that once again God has shown that the US is the favored nation.

The hospitals should be full of sick people needing O2 and/or vents regardless of testing.

[Anonymous]

This disease is only two months old, of course the hospitals aren't filling up. I'm guessing Wuhan has had this virus for closer to 4 months and their hospitals did fill up. It will take some time for this virus to get entrenched.

Anyway, since we aren't testing, we have absolutely no idea if our hospitalized pneumonia patients have COVID-19 or not

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Look, I have elderly parents. Both are not in good health. The flu, a bad cold, etc, could easily be the thing that kills either one of them. I don't see this as different from coronavirus.

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Several hundred people who came from Wuhan were quarantined. Are you saying that everyone traveling from Asia should be quarantined?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This disease is only two months old, of course the hospitals aren't filling up. I'm guessing Wuhan has had this virus for closer to 4 months and their hospitals did fill up. It will take some time for this virus to get entrenched.

Anyway, since we aren't testing, we have absolutely no idea if our hospitalized pneumonia patients have COVID-19 or not

What you are saying makes NO sense. We are almost March and winter break/travel was Dec/Jan. That's PLENTY of time for this to come back and get hold. Even if we are not testing, we should be seeing a marked increase in hospitalized pneumonia patients, beyond what we usually see this time of year.

There's something REALLY funky going on with reporting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Several hundred people who came from Wuhan were quarantined. Are you saying that everyone traveling from Asia should be quarantined?

What does that have to do with the price of apples?

I'm saying that we brought students from Wuhan right into Fairfax County, and told them to tour. They were not quarantined. Where are all the cases in Fairfax County and DC? How about NYC given that they flew in there? The bus driver that took them to Fairfax County?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Look, I have elderly parents. Both are not in good health. The flu, a bad cold, etc, could easily be the thing that kills either one of them. I don't see this as different from coronavirus.

And your point is? Just let everyone get it and Darwin will sort them out?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:CDC just issued policies including school tele-learning, telework focus, cancelling large gathering.

Better get your TP asap (though if the water is off, not sure how great that is?)

These are POSSIBLE recommendations IF we had a pandemic. Jesus, you guys have a hard time separating actual news from hypotheticals.

Please stop thinking it is a hypothetical. There WILL BE outbreaks in the United States, people WILL BE quarantined, and there WILL BE cancelations of school and social gatherings. It's just a question of when.

Other countries (except maybe Iran) are doing what they can to slow the spread of the disease, to give everyone time to prepare and to give scientists and medical professionals time to create a vaccine and treatments. The WHO doctor that just returned from China is calling for a Manhattan Project type of collaboration among scientists. https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1232323122654826497.html

Everyone personally should be using this time to prepare themselves and their families - both materially and psychologically - for something they've never seen before. A complete disruption of our lives. Think the worst snowstorm to ever hit Washington - a foot of snow falling every day for a month - prepare for that. Maybe it won't happen here, but just be prepared.

The US colleges had a huge return of Chinese students studying in the US in the month of January, right in the middle of the worst of this. Can you explain why there are virtually NO cases in US colleges?

If you don't test for cases, cases do not exist.

Or I guess you could say that once again God has shown that the US is the favored nation.

The hospitals should be full of sick people needing O2 and/or vents regardless of testing.

Who need O2? Elderly? How many of those on campus?

[Anonymous]

Cases popping up in Spain:

2 vacationing in Tenerif


Barcelona:
1 36 year old Italian woman who lives in Barcelona, went back to Italy for a visit; 25 contacts being watched for symptoms.

Valencia
1 man from Castellon near Valencia who had come back from Milan (champions league match)... there are three others in Casetllon being monitored as they have symptoms of the virus; questions whether the community should cancel the big Josafina festival this weekend.

Also Valencia -- 2400 fans who went to the Champions League Match in Milan have been sent an email to watch for symptoms.... 4 have already alerted the Dept of Health that they have symptoms.

Herme Vanaclocha also clarified at a press conference that there were four Valencia CF fans who traveled to Milan last week to witness the Champions League match and have contacted 112 to report symptoms. "But they are still being assessed, they cannot be said to be cases under study," Vanaclocha said.

Precisely, Health on Monday sent instructions to the 2,400 fans who traveled to support the team about what were the symptoms of the coronavirus and what they should do if they appeared.

Madrid
1 24 year old in Madrid who just returned from Northern Italy

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Guess we aren't the only ones frustrated with CDC testing:

Public health labs ask to create their own tests for coronavirus

From CNN’s Nadia Kounang

With only 12 state and local health laboratories able to test for the novel coronavirus, public health labs are asking the US Food and Drug Administration for permission to create their own tests for the virus.

“We are now many weeks into the response with still no diagnostic or surveillance test available outside of CDC for the vast majority of our member laboratories,” the Association of Public Health Laboratories wrote in a letter to FDA Commissioner Stephen Hahn on Monday.

The association represents the 150 largest public health labs across the country and is asking the FDA for a special exemption to create its own diagnostics.

“We find ourselves in a situation that requires a quicker local response,” the association wrote.

https://www.cnn.com/asia/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-02-25-20-hnk-intl/index.html

WHAAAT? NO!
PEOPLE DON’T WANT RANDOM COMMERCIAL LABS HANDLING THIS VIRUS!

This thing can get out and spread. And there would be a direct conflict of interest, once a lab had tests to sell what would motivate them to be careful to keep it safe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Several hundred people who came from Wuhan were quarantined. Are you saying that everyone traveling from Asia should be quarantined?

What does that have to do with the price of apples?

I'm saying that we brought students from Wuhan right into Fairfax County, and told them to tour. They were not quarantined. Where are all the cases in Fairfax County and DC? How about NYC given that they flew in there? The bus driver that took them to Fairfax County?

They were from Wuhan or elsewhere in Hubei?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Guess we aren't the only ones frustrated with CDC testing:

Public health labs ask to create their own tests for coronavirus

From CNN’s Nadia Kounang

With only 12 state and local health laboratories able to test for the novel coronavirus, public health labs are asking the US Food and Drug Administration for permission to create their own tests for the virus.

“We are now many weeks into the response with still no diagnostic or surveillance test available outside of CDC for the vast majority of our member laboratories,” the Association of Public Health Laboratories wrote in a letter to FDA Commissioner Stephen Hahn on Monday.

The association represents the 150 largest public health labs across the country and is asking the FDA for a special exemption to create its own diagnostics.

“We find ourselves in a situation that requires a quicker local response,” the association wrote.

https://www.cnn.com/asia/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-02-25-20-hnk-intl/index.html

WHAAAT? NO!
PEOPLE DON’T WANT RANDOM COMMERCIAL LABS HANDLING THIS VIRUS!

This thing can get out and spread. And there would be a direct conflict of interest, once a lab had tests to sell what would motivate them to be careful to keep it safe.

Public health laboratories are governmental at the federal, state, or city level.

You can red about them on the Association of Public Health Laboratories' website;

https://www.aphl.org/aboutAPHL/Pages/aboutphls.aspx

[Anonymous]

https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/coronavirus-spreads-in-italy-toll-rises-leaders-resist-border-closure-20200226-p544cl.html?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR0NuYv36ree6X165gh7uhB55NlpkZT0Y9BEXWLVv5gRe09Z9SjmqP8ubnA#Echobox=1582658836

Just in case all of the information in this article hasn't yet been reported here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/coronavirus-spreads-in-italy-toll-rises-leaders-resist-border-closure-20200226-p544cl.html?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR0NuYv36ree6X165gh7uhB55NlpkZT0Y9BEXWLVv5gRe09Z9SjmqP8ubnA#Echobox=1582658836

Just in case all of the information in this article hasn't yet been reported here.

From that article - that's a 3% fatality rate
"Walter Ricciardi of the World Health Organisation stressed that for every 100 cases, about 80 people get better alone, 15 have serious but manageable problems, five are very serious and about three die."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This disease is only two months old, of course the hospitals aren't filling up. I'm guessing Wuhan has had this virus for closer to 4 months and their hospitals did fill up. It will take some time for this virus to get entrenched.

Anyway, since we aren't testing, we have absolutely no idea if our hospitalized pneumonia patients have COVID-19 or not

Yrt if it were here and as. Bad as some would like it to be you surely would see hospitals overflown with sudden wave of mass pneumonia cases. SUDDEN WAVE. And nothing.