FCV DA

[Anonymous]

The top school in Virginia is without question UVA.

Do me favor:

Google: UVA Womens soccer roster

Now, tell me how many girls are from Virginia and where they come from (Club, HS)

You might find it eye opening and a much needed reality check

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So know that we know that 99.9999999999 percent of the players at FCV will not get a YNT camp call up..lets focus our attention on college placement.

The picture in the link provided are some of the best kids on one of the best teams to have ever come through FCV. It was their hallmark group...since the days of Terry Foley and way before the creation of DA. How far back? Back when FCV was attached to SYA. Before Evergreen was built and ECNL was in its infancy.

Thats right! You are looking at girls that witnessed the dismantling of local club soccer, the destruction of WAGS, the rise of ECNL, the assault on HS soccer, age changes that ripped teams apart, new US Soccer mandates and the creation of the GDA, and the battle between ECNL and DA.

All of this.

You know what most of those kids have in common?

4.0 and higher GPAs

You know what most of those kids also have in common?

Combination of Athletic and Academic scholarship money

You know why?

Because no matter how great your kid is she will not get a full Athletic scholarship.

Now

Colleges recruit the person before the player. I can not stress that enough. Grades, work ethic, morals, values and parents are all major factors.

An athletically gifted player who destroys team chemistry is immediately knocked off the list. Too many fish in the pond.

There are approximately 900 NCAA college soccer teams. Approximately 330 or so are D1.

Now, most of the parents at the ECNL/DA level like to seperate themselves even more by saying, ¨Its not about D1. Its about the quality of the D1.¨

You see, being good enough isnt good enough. We need more sub-groups.

Here is my counter to all of that...

How much do you think the parents of the players in the aformentioned picture paid to get their kids to that level?

About as much as a college degree. So the rare parents of the rare kids getting a full ride are breaking even. The rest of us are in the negative.

Now, lets put all of that aside and focus on ¨Quality of school¨



John Hopkins and Carnegie Mellon, MIT, etc. Jobs galore waiting for those kids upon graduation.

All top tier schools with top D3 soccer programs.

Now..UVA, DUKE, UNC, Stanford, Georgetown, etc

Those are the Holy Grail of schools. Top schools with top soccer. The chances of your kid going there in small and the chance of them getting meaningful time in even smaller.

Money:

Go with the school that is giving you the cheapest path to a college degree. In state, partial scholarship. A college degree can reach A LOT after its all said and done. And honestly, its not worth it. Everyone seems to have one. A kid needs to do more then ever to set themselves apart.

I saw a girl in the picture with a NAVY shirt on. She is getting a full ride to one of the best schools in the county and upon graduation will become a Naval Officer. At the age of 26 her resume will set her apart from most if not all of her peers. She will be making six figures immediately in the private sector..with no debt.

Finally,

Go online and research the school your kid wants to attend. Research their rosters and see where the kids are coming from.

Remember, FCV loses about 18 or so players a year to graduation. Thats not even enough kids to fill the demand of the in state D1 schools. It doesnt even come close.

There are 13 D1 womens soccer schools in Virginia. With atleast 4 incoming freshman every year, thats 52

Do you still believe that you must be at FCV DA to play college?



An employer doesnt care how great your womens soccer college program was.

Please, try to keep it all in prespective.

+1000!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The top school in Virginia is without question UVA.

Do me favor:

Google: UVA Womens soccer roster

Now, tell me how many girls are from Virginia and where they come from (Club, HS)

You might find it eye opening and a much needed reality check

A sad fact - and one I had to show my own soccer player so she didn't get her hopes up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The top school in Virginia is without question UVA.

Do me favor:

Google: UVA Womens soccer roster

Now, tell me how many girls are from Virginia and where they come from (Club, HS)

You might find it eye opening and a much needed reality check

A sad fact - and one I had to show my own soccer player so she didn't get her hopes up.

So, the long and the short of it is, go where you can play and you might increase your chances of better school than you would have achieved on the bench, even if that bench is FCV's.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The top school in Virginia is without question UVA.

Do me favor:

Google: UVA Womens soccer roster

Now, tell me how many girls are from Virginia and where they come from (Club, HS)

You might find it eye opening and a much needed reality check

A sad fact - and one I had to show my own soccer player so she didn't get her hopes up.

26 on roster. 4 from VA (2-McLean, SOCA, Bethesda)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The top school in Virginia is without question UVA.

Do me favor:

Google: UVA Womens soccer roster

Now, tell me how many girls are from Virginia and where they come from (Club, HS)

You might find it eye opening and a much needed reality check

A sad fact - and one I had to show my own soccer player so she didn't get her hopes up.

26 on roster. 4 from VA (2-McLean, SOCA, Bethesda)

15 percent of the roster is from Virginia

3 were at ECNL clubs
1 was at a CCL club

Now, ask yourself, how did those players catch the eye of one of the most respected college coaches in the nation who so happened to be a coach for the USWNT as well........

I bet it might have something to do with their ability vs club affiliation.

[Anonymous]

The FCV u17s have the following verbal commits:
3 William and Mary, 1 university of Richmond, 1 George Washington, and 1 VMI. They are 1st in their division and 8th in the country. Their record is 6-0-2. Sounds respectable to me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The top school in Virginia is without question UVA.

Do me favor:

Google: UVA Womens soccer roster

Now, tell me how many girls are from Virginia and where they come from (Club, HS)

You might find it eye opening and a much needed reality check

A sad fact - and one I had to show my own soccer player so she didn't get her hopes up.

26 on roster. 4 from VA (2-McLean, SOCA, Bethesda)

Wait, isn't Bethesda MD?

[Anonymous]

SOCA, that's cool. Still some spots for non-DA, non-ECNL. Do they still play in the CCL?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The top school in Virginia is without question UVA.

Do me favor:

Google: UVA Womens soccer roster

Now, tell me how many girls are from Virginia and where they come from (Club, HS)

You might find it eye opening and a much needed reality check

A sad fact - and one I had to show my own soccer player so she didn't get her hopes up.

26 on roster. 4 from VA (2-McLean, SOCA, Bethesda)

Wait, isn't Bethesda MD?

Yes but they identify as Virginians

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The top school in Virginia is without question UVA.

Do me favor:

Google: UVA Womens soccer roster

Now, tell me how many girls are from Virginia and where they come from (Club, HS)

You might find it eye opening and a much needed reality check

A sad fact - and one I had to show my own soccer player so she didn't get her hopes up.

26 on roster. 4 from VA (2-McLean, SOCA, Bethesda)

Wait, isn't Bethesda MD?

Congrats, but there are kids at other clubs getting offers too. That is the point. It has more to do with the player than the club.

Step 1:
Get in front of college coaches.

Step 2:
Be good at soccer.

There are lots of ways for a player to get in front of college coaches. Between ID camps as well as ECNL or DA showcase events. 4 ECNL and 3 DA clubs mean lots of places for a player to actually get meaningful minutes and be in front of college coaches whether or not the team is a winning or losing team.

Sit the bench at FCV and watch your teammates play in front of the college coaches if you want but the club name won't do a thing for you if you're not playing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:SOCA, that's cool. Still some spots for non-DA, non-ECNL. Do they still play in the CCL?

that’s what you’re taking away from this discussion??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The FCV u17s have the following verbal commits:
3 William and Mary, 1 university of Richmond, 1 George Washington, and 1 VMI. They are 1st in their division and 8th in the country. Their record is 6-0-2. Sounds respectable to me.

Add to that the 04s ranked 4th and the 05s ranked 3rd - both national rankings. The 06s and 07s don't keep standings.

You can bash the mid-atlantic competition all you want but if the mid-atlantic DA is weak, how weak is the mid-atlantic ECNL? The same argument keeps being made that the GDA isn't strong at the younger ages and that the talent is going to be spread out in the future. Based on what? Message board opinions that have been wrong about that facts for two years running now? The TOP talent will always consolidate. The question only is where. For now that is FCV and increasingly Arlington. McLean remains to be seen if their reputation will remain strong enough to bring in TOP talent at the 03, 04, 05 etc... age groups. Right now those teams don't have it at McLean.

And for the teams that can consolidate top talent, even their subs will get recruited because the college coaches KNOW the talent has consolidated there. So it isn't as simple as a starter at ECNL is better than a sub at FCV. That may be completely false - it depends on the particular team and the particular players and if they are starter number 1 or starter number 10. The recruiting numbers at FCV do not lie.

BRYC in turmoil, MU is a year-to-year test of survival, VDA hasn't proven to be able to keep enough of its talent into the recruiting ages and Loudoun is second fiddle to its GDA neighbor...hoping that they move to Springfield.

IF, and its a big IF, the GDA survives the next 5 years, my meaningless opinion is that Arlington is best positioned to be dominant. Geographically has big and distinct population to draw from, well run, decent with some great staff and a DA platform. Every other club has serious issues going forward.

All of this opinion and not fact. Take it for what its worth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The top school in Virginia is without question UVA.

Do me favor:

Google: UVA Womens soccer roster

Now, tell me how many girls are from Virginia and where they come from (Club, HS)

You might find it eye opening and a much needed reality check

A sad fact - and one I had to show my own soccer player so she didn't get her hopes up.

26 on roster. 4 from VA (2-McLean, SOCA, Bethesda)

Wait, isn't Bethesda MD?

Congrats, but there are kids at other clubs getting offers too. That is the point. It has more to do with the player than the club.

Step 1:
Get in front of college coaches.

Step 2:
Be good at soccer.

There are lots of ways for a player to get in front of college coaches. Between ID camps as well as ECNL or DA showcase events. 4 ECNL and 3 DA clubs mean lots of places for a player to actually get meaningful minutes and be in front of college coaches whether or not the team is a winning or losing team.

Sit the bench at FCV and watch your teammates play in front of the college coaches if you want but the club name won't do a thing for you if you're not playing.

Non-DA FCV parent here. We get plenty of playing time and participate in multiple college showcases. Per PP, it's not always just about the league, sometimes there are excellent players on non-DA or non-ECNL teams.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The FCV u17s have the following verbal commits:
3 William and Mary, 1 university of Richmond, 1 George Washington, and 1 VMI. They are 1st in their division and 8th in the country. Their record is 6-0-2. Sounds respectable to me.

Add to that the 04s ranked 4th and the 05s ranked 3rd - both national rankings. The 06s and 07s don't keep standings.

You can bash the mid-atlantic competition all you want but if the mid-atlantic DA is weak, how weak is the mid-atlantic ECNL? The same argument keeps being made that the GDA isn't strong at the younger ages and that the talent is going to be spread out in the future. Based on what? Message board opinions that have been wrong about that facts for two years running now? The TOP talent will always consolidate. The question only is where. For now that is FCV and increasingly Arlington. McLean remains to be seen if their reputation will remain strong enough to bring in TOP talent at the 03, 04, 05 etc... age groups. Right now those teams don't have it at McLean.

And for the teams that can consolidate top talent, even their subs will get recruited because the college coaches KNOW the talent has consolidated there. So it isn't as simple as a starter at ECNL is better than a sub at FCV. That may be completely false - it depends on the particular team and the particular players and if they are starter number 1 or starter number 10. The recruiting numbers at FCV do not lie.

BRYC in turmoil, MU is a year-to-year test of survival, VDA hasn't proven to be able to keep enough of its talent into the recruiting ages and Loudoun is second fiddle to its GDA neighbor...hoping that they move to Springfield.

IF, and its a big IF, the GDA survives the next 5 years, my meaningless opinion is that Arlington is best positioned to be dominant. Geographically has big and distinct population to draw from, well run, decent with some great staff and a DA platform. Every other club has serious issues going forward.

All of this opinion and not fact. Take it for what its worth.

Loudoun has not lost a 07 or 08 player to FCV since Loudoun was granted ECNL. FCV needs to move because they no longer have the golden ticket in Loudoun anymore. Keep living in the past of teams formed years before DA though.