Gun store opening next door to Franklin Sherman Elementary in Mclean

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A history of supporting gun violence. Is that so?

We will never have true discourse on this issue if gun control advocates continue to call those on the other side murderers. Between 80-100 million US households have legal firearms. They are moms, dads, uncles, aunts. They want to keep their loved ones safe just as much as you do. If we can all agree on this point, we can move forward and at least try to figure something out.


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Being pro second amendment does not make one pro gun violence.






ah, i think it does.

comparison of modern socities on this earth leads to conclusion that US infatuation with guns is causing an epidemic of violence

and this is directly related to the second amendment which was written in a completely different time.

We all know that the Second Amendment, written so many years ago, was done so with a completely different set of worries in mind, the kind of worries that if realized could have prevented America from becoming America. The 2nd Amendment was a valid response to those particular concerns AT THAT HISTORICAL MOMENT.
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Anonymous wrote:Our Virginia Democratic Governor is indeed a proud gun owner. Just ask him!

*Democrat


So what? Some of the McLean residents who don't want a gun shop next to an elementary school are gun owners. Some of them might even be *gasp* republicans. What does that have to do with anything?

Perhaps you missed Miss Vicky's petition. She demanded that the shop get out of McLean. As a newcomer, she doesn't know that most McLean property owners have at least one gun.

Democrat Governor McAuliffe owns more than one gun, and he isn't shy to tell you so. I wouldn't at all be surprised if Foust owned a few as well. Of course he wouldn't want to get clobbered, so why tell you?


Maybe his wife forgot about that.


"During his State of the Commonwealth address in January, McAuliffe said residents “can no longer stand by as our fellow Virginians are lost to preventable and senseless acts of gun violence.”

“Even one Virginian’s precious life is too high a price to pay for our inability to reach a reasonable compromise on gun safety,” he added.

McAuliffe and other Democrats would enact sensible gun control laws, if not constrained by the Republicans who've enabled a culture of gun-inflicted violence. They are a disaster for the whole DC region.


It doesn't say exactly what he wants.


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Anonymous wrote:How old is that little building?


It's definitely pretty old so who knows whether it's really code-compliant or not. I'd certainly want to send over some inspectors to make sure it's structurally sound. It's one thing when a family of four came by for photos. It might not hold up so well with 15 fat-ass guys and Rachel walking around inside.
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Anonymous wrote:How old is that little building?


It's definitely pretty old so who knows whether it's really code-compliant or not. I'd certainly want to send over some inspectors to make sure it's structurally sound. It's one thing when a family of four came by for photos. It might not hold up so well with 15 fat-ass guys and Rachel walking around inside.

Let's stay grown-up here, please. Are you ok this evening? You sound a little off tonight.
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Anonymous wrote:How old is that little building?


It's definitely pretty old so who knows whether it's really code-compliant or not. I'd certainly want to send over some inspectors to make sure it's structurally sound. It's one thing when a family of four came by for photos. It might not hold up so well with 15 fat-ass guys and Rachel walking around inside.

Let's stay grown-up here, please. Are you ok this evening? You sound a little off tonight.


What's wrong, tubby? Worried that county inspectors might find a few things wrong with the building if they looked hard enough?

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There mental health services for 22:21.
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Anonymous wrote:^ The shop in Falls Church less than a mile away from the school and the sign outside is huge. The pawn shop in Lyon Village has prominent signs on the windows stating that they will happily purchase guns. Honestly, it sounds like people just want something to complain about. Probably half the families in McLean have a member of the household with a CCW permit and keep a firearm in the house, whether they're willing to admit it or not.



Is the gun shop in Falls Church visible from the school grounds?


Not sure, as I've never been on the school grounds (or in that gun shop). It's on the main drag (Broad St) and surrounded by a bunch of other office buildings with a fenced parking lot and trees in the back-- the setup probably makes it hard to see from anywhere but right next door because of how everything is crammed in so tightly there. Someone more familiar with the area/ school could probably tell you for certain. It's not like anyone would have a hard time finding it and driving the 90 seconds to the school if they were so inclined, though.


It would be [/i]walking[i] for 90 seconds to get to Franklin Sherman. If you have to get in the car to drive to the school in Falls Church, then it is probably not visible from the elementary school.


Are you worried that someone will buy a gun and walk into the elementary school? What is your specific concern about having the gun shop close to the school?
wow! YES! I hope you have your answer to your question. Who the heck are these people who keep asking what the problem is and if we are worried about kids buying guns? No an elementary kid isn't going to by a gun there. But someone who does can walk out and see kids playing.


It turns out that the petition supporting the gun shop's location in McLean was started by one of the shop's co-owners, Rachel Dresser. She's not a McLean resident, and she doesn't represent the community's values. I'm sure she's spamming this thread with her gun-loving pals.

Are you stalking her to? Perhaps you need a restraining order to control yourself. And no, I don't know her, so you may put that allegation to rest. Sweet dreams!


Don't let the pro- gun bullies get to you. Seriously, this all played out in Cherrydale with lots of intimidation tactics. They may try to make you feel unsafe without guns or anti -small-business. They understand exactly why they're unwelcome and they just don't care because they profit from guns. A product whose purpose is to kill.

Shall we take away the guns of the police officers?


Right, because the choice is: gun store next to school or unarmed police. Completely unrelated. A businessman should be sensitive to the community he invests in. I'm starting to think this gun store is either all about picking a fight or lacks business savvy. At least try to place your store out of sight of the school. You may think it's all about the second amendment, but the American psyche has been too exposed to school massacres to passively accept the profiting from guns as a welcome neighboring business. They kill kids and people. Pretty much every day. Do we have stats regarding the injuries or fatalities stemming from weapons sold by this proprietor (or weapons stolen from)? I'm pretty sure laws keep us from accessing that info. If the shop owner can honestly and with certainty say that nobody has ever died as a result of a weapon sold out of or stolen from his store, only then could I even begin a conversation. Because guns just make everyone safer, right?


I am the poster you are responding to. If you think I am the owner or even know the owner, you had best think again. Having made a significant investment in the McLean community over the years, I came to this controversy to learn what your concerns are, and have asked repeatedly. If your concern is in fact the safety of the community, than we need to look at each McLean business to see which ones are attracting crime, don't we?

I think we all know the general reputation of 7-11's and gas stations. Last week in fact, I was approached by a man telling me I needed to give him money, as I was pumping gas in McLean. I happen to be a woman. I then observed the same man approach every single woman who came to pump gas. Before I left I went to speak to one of the women who was also approached. She said she gave him money because she didn't know if he might hurt her. This was on a weekend afternoon. I later found out that the gas station has no security cameras, in case we had been attacked. I also learned "soliciting" was perfectly legal, unless the gas station put up "no soliciting" signs.

Now, as for McLean banks. I've lost count how often we've had hold-ups. You and your child could easily be inside at the wrong time. Do we care about any of that? Should each crime scene bank be forced out of town? Why not?

I therefore suspect that the protesters here care more about a political agenda, and less about the safety about the McLean community. Please prove me wrong.




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I'm waiting for 22:29 to explain this great investment she's made in McLean over the years. She sounds like she's making it up as she goes along. And I've lived here for years and have never been approached for money at a gas station or 7-11. Not once.

We need this gun store like a hole in the head, which unfortunately is what some of us may end up with if these asshats at Nova Firearms sell enough weapons.
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Anonymous wrote:Our Virginia Democratic Governor is indeed a proud gun owner. Just ask him!

*Democrat


So what? Some of the McLean residents who don't want a gun shop next to an elementary school are gun owners. Some of them might even be *gasp* republicans. What does that have to do with anything?

Perhaps you missed Miss Vicky's petition. She demanded that the shop get out of McLean. As a newcomer, she doesn't know that most McLean property owners have at least one gun.

Democrat Governor McAuliffe owns more than one gun, and he isn't shy to tell you so. I wouldn't at all be surprised if Foust owned a few as well. Of course he wouldn't want to get clobbered, so why tell you?


Maybe his wife forgot about that.


"During his State of the Commonwealth address in January, McAuliffe said residents “can no longer stand by as our fellow Virginians are lost to preventable and senseless acts of gun violence.”

“Even one Virginian’s precious life is too high a price to pay for our inability to reach a reasonable compromise on gun safety,” he added.

McAuliffe and other Democrats would enact sensible gun control laws, if not constrained by the Republicans who've enabled a culture of gun-inflicted violence. They are a disaster for the whole DC region.


It doesn't say exactly what he wants.


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Just pick the opposite of how Barbara Comstock has voted

Universal Background Checks
Limits on Semi-automatic weapons

Not too hard.
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Once again, a civics lession: Barbara Comstock (R) represents the 10th Congressional District and represents us in congress on Federal matters, just as Don Beyer (D) represnts the 6th, and, again focuses on federal matters. Neither is involved in the 1/6 mile shift of the McLean Gun store because they don't have jurisdiction over such matters. In fact, the McLean Gun store isn't even in Barbara's district, it is in John Beyer's district. Even a Dem, John Beyer isn't active on this matter. Go to his facebook page or website. Look at a map. See, Barbara handles FEDERAL issues above Chain Bridge, Don handles federal items below. That's why neither are involved. Seriuosly, would you expect a congressman, like Barbara, from Alaska, to care about a gun shop that was movedd 1/6 of a mile in Anchorage? Of course not. That is for the local state and city representatives to figure out. .http://search.aol.com/aol/imageDetails?s_it=imageDetails&q=10th+congressional+district+map+Mclean&img=http%3A%2F%2Fdemocracy.com%2FApp_Uploads%2Fvagop10-cooper-304-post-image-large-635378596308656000.png&v_t=na&host=http%3A%2F%2Fdemocracy.com%2Fvagop10-cooper-304%2Fdefault.aspx&width=181&height=140&thumbUrl=https%3A%2F%2Fencrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com%2Fimages%3Fq%3Dtbn%3AANd9GcQTa3xJaPzFRwvNNgQcuLU6_X2j1LTFGmA0V2dyLm139ViMr-PL7rB1FaZT%3Ademocracy.com%2FApp_Uploads%2Fvagop10-cooper-304-post-image-large-635378596308656000.png&b=image%3Fs_it%3DimageResultsBack%26v_t%3Dna%26q%3D10th%2Bcongressional%2Bdistrict%2Bmap%2BMclean%26oreq%3D3d7ac36d0b5349669745e4dc2ffcb230&imgHeight=400&imgWidth=517&imgTitle=Please+see+a+map+of+the&imgSize=54515&hostName=democracy.com
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Ah, but he's on others, whereas Comstock is nowhere to be found.


Good for her!




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Constock shouldn't be found because she represents the 10th Congressional District and focuses on federal issues. That's why we chose her over Fourst to go to Congress to handle our federal issues. The gun store that move 1/4 mile moved out of her district into Don Beyer's. He's also not playing. There no mention of the gun shop on his facebook page, legislative news pag, or website.
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How old is that little building?


It's definitely pretty old so who knows whether it's really code-compliant or not. I'd certainly want to send over some inspectors to make sure it's structurally sound. It's one thing when a family of four came by for photos. It might not hold up so well with 15 fat-ass guys and Rachel walking around inside.

Let's stay grown-up here, please. Are you ok this evening? You sound a little off tonight.


What's wrong, tubby? Worried that county inspectors might find a few things wrong with the building if they looked hard enough?


All code violations are located by county inspectors and checked off as havng been repaired before the tenant is allowed to move in.
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Anonymous wrote:

A history of supporting gun violence. Is that so?

We will never have true discourse on this issue if gun control advocates continue to call those on the other side murderers. Between 80-100 million US households have legal firearms. They are moms, dads, uncles, aunts. They want to keep their loved ones safe just as much as you do. If we can all agree on this point, we can move forward and at least try to figure something out.


+10000

Being pro second amendment does not make one pro gun violence.






ah, i think it does.

comparison of modern socities on this earth leads to conclusion that US infatuation with guns is causing an epidemic of violence

and this is directly related to the second amendment which was written in a completely different time.

We all know that the Second Amendment, written so many years ago, was done so with a completely different set of worries in mind, the kind of worries that if realized could have prevented America from becoming America. The 2nd Amendment was a valid response to those particular concerns AT THAT HISTORICAL MOMENT.


I am a married mother of two, a SAHM, a volunteer for at our synagogue, I take my therapy dog to a retirement community once a month. I take care of two elderly parents. I love my husband, my children, my parents, my brother and sister, my neighbors and my community. I firmly believe that the 2nd amendment makes us safer and the problem lies in big government, poor reporting of mental health issues, gun free zones at schools and our military bases, lack of support for police and, finally, the need for harsher consequences for those who are negligent firearm owners.

I would argue that a very simple rotating police presence at schools, malls, etc would curb these horrific attacks. Everytime I see a speed trap set on 123 I think to myself- instead of generating revenue, why aren't the police at Spring Hill Elem or Cooper this afternoon. Just being there is a deterrent.

You can use your statistics to bolster your argument and I'll use mine. As I said earlier, if you want to continue to call me and the 80m+ households in this country "murderers", you are doing nothing to help your cause.
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Although the Patch may not be covering it, the front page of the online edition of the Washington Post is running a story. This appears to be picking up steam, not going away.
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Even ultra liberal Janie Strauss admits that "many" McLean residents "probably" carry guns.

"We have parents who work at the CIA, parents who are high-level government officials, who work at Fortune 500 companies," she said.


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