ICE is merely enforcing laws passed by Congress and signed by our elected presidents

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Anonymous wrote:There is no proper or kind ways to deal with this situation. People are not going to self-report or deport and there is no system for them to catch them so ICE goes wherever they think they could find people.


It's nonsense to say there is no proper way to do this, and what you are really saying is that there is no constitutional way to do this, including no way to do this without repeatedly violating constitutional rights of citizens as well as legal residents. The administration started off with grossly exaggerated numbers of unlawful entry, including claiming that Biden's TPS orders were illegal. They also convinced the right that immigrants were overwhelmingly rapists, murderers, and drug-dealing cartels. They encouraged the crazy stories about Haitians eating pets. They promised a solution--rounding up millions of immigrants and getting rid of them. Even though they couldn't get close to the numbers they promised, this operation has still required wholesale disregard for the law, including a conscious policy of "f--- the courts." They fired experienced immigration judges for properly assessing and deciding cases (mind you, these proceedings are inherently harsh, with small children at times having to appear before judges without counsel). After reassigning military JAG officers to immigration courts, they have continued to fire those who exercise their own legal reasoning in particular cases.

They have stopped asylum proceedings, even though the law mandates the opportunity to seek asylum. They are also putting the breaks on LEGAL visa and immigration processes.

In Idaho, after zip-tying hundreds of people, including citizens, including children (and threatening to "blow your head off" to a zip-tied citizen mother whose citizen 14r year old was also zip-tied), they detained them for hours, leaving the 14 year old (who was dragged from a car) with large bruises on her torso as well as her wrists. They have smashed out the windows of cars driven by people who happened to be near an operation and sprayed tear gas or pepper spray into the faces of citizens, including babies. They lie: in Idaho, local police who did assist ICE admit to the zip-tying of children; ICE has denied this happened. There is a woman from Maryland, a citizen, who has been detained and transferred to a detention center in Lousiana to prepare for deportation. She is a US citizen by birth; ICE claims her birth certificate and other documents that her family has provided are fake. When they detain people, they deliberate move them from one center to another hundreds of miles away to force attorneys to spend precious time and money searching for their clients rather than pursue legal remedies. Trump has made a clear ethnic cleansing statement when he said he would like to get rid of ALL Somalians, period, even though the majority are actually citizens.

There is no way to rationalize or justify this. Putting lipstick on a pig doesn't begin to explain how much is wrong with what is going on.



Thank you. What this Admin and ICE are doing is unConstitutional and an affront to who were are as an American people.


What Biden and the Democrats did opening the borders to millions of unvetted illegal immigrants was the affront to the citizenry of the nation. They didn’t care if they released vile criminals who committed crimes or just general welfare cases who burdened communities. They kept lying to people about the crisis their policies created while showing zero regard for people or communities that were suffering from their man made disaster.

ICE is following the law and deporting illegal immigrants, as Congress has mandated. I am thankful for a President who follows the law and puts the American people first. Since Trump has entered office, job gains have been going to American-born citizens and not illegal foreign nationals like during the Biden years.


You are super weird and very much in the minority.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is no proper or kind ways to deal with this situation. People are not going to self-report or deport and there is no system for them to catch them so ICE goes wherever they think they could find people.


It's nonsense to say there is no proper way to do this, and what you are really saying is that there is no constitutional way to do this, including no way to do this without repeatedly violating constitutional rights of citizens as well as legal residents. The administration started off with grossly exaggerated numbers of unlawful entry, including claiming that Biden's TPS orders were illegal. They also convinced the right that immigrants were overwhelmingly rapists, murderers, and drug-dealing cartels. They encouraged the crazy stories about Haitians eating pets. They promised a solution--rounding up millions of immigrants and getting rid of them. Even though they couldn't get close to the numbers they promised, this operation has still required wholesale disregard for the law, including a conscious policy of "f--- the courts." They fired experienced immigration judges for properly assessing and deciding cases (mind you, these proceedings are inherently harsh, with small children at times having to appear before judges without counsel). After reassigning military JAG officers to immigration courts, they have continued to fire those who exercise their own legal reasoning in particular cases.

They have stopped asylum proceedings, even though the law mandates the opportunity to seek asylum. They are also putting the breaks on LEGAL visa and immigration processes.

In Idaho, after zip-tying hundreds of people, including citizens, including children (and threatening to "blow your head off" to a zip-tied citizen mother whose citizen 14r year old was also zip-tied), they detained them for hours, leaving the 14 year old (who was dragged from a car) with large bruises on her torso as well as her wrists. They have smashed out the windows of cars driven by people who happened to be near an operation and sprayed tear gas or pepper spray into the faces of citizens, including babies. They lie: in Idaho, local police who did assist ICE admit to the zip-tying of children; ICE has denied this happened. There is a woman from Maryland, a citizen, who has been detained and transferred to a detention center in Lousiana to prepare for deportation. She is a US citizen by birth; ICE claims her birth certificate and other documents that her family has provided are fake. When they detain people, they deliberate move them from one center to another hundreds of miles away to force attorneys to spend precious time and money searching for their clients rather than pursue legal remedies. Trump has made a clear ethnic cleansing statement when he said he would like to get rid of ALL Somalians, period, even though the majority are actually citizens.

There is no way to rationalize or justify this. Putting lipstick on a pig doesn't begin to explain how much is wrong with what is going on.



Thank you. What this Admin and ICE are doing is unConstitutional and an affront to who were are as an American people.


What Biden and the Democrats did opening the borders to millions of unvetted illegal immigrants was the affront to the citizenry of the nation. They didn’t care if they released vile criminals who committed crimes or just general welfare cases who burdened communities. They kept lying to people about the crisis their policies created while showing zero regard for people or communities that were suffering from their man made disaster.

ICE is following the law and deporting illegal immigrants, as Congress has mandated. I am thankful for a President who follows the law and puts the American people first. Since Trump has entered office, job gains have been going to American-born citizens and not illegal foreign nationals like during the Biden years.


NP. I agree completely with you.

More importantly, MOST normal Americans agree with you.

Whenever i travel internationally (which is frequently), i have to follow the laws. Their country; their laws.

I risk the consequences of being deported if i break the other countries’ laws. EVERYONE knows this!

And i would be a laughing-stock if i knowingly broke their immigration laws, got deported back to America, and then tried to cry “But i am a victim!”

Why should the USA be any different than any country on the planet?
Anonymous
If you do not want to be deported to your home, then leave now.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is no proper or kind ways to deal with this situation. People are not going to self-report or deport and there is no system for them to catch them so ICE goes wherever they think they could find people.


It's nonsense to say there is no proper way to do this, and what you are really saying is that there is no constitutional way to do this, including no way to do this without repeatedly violating constitutional rights of citizens as well as legal residents. The administration started off with grossly exaggerated numbers of unlawful entry, including claiming that Biden's TPS orders were illegal. They also convinced the right that immigrants were overwhelmingly rapists, murderers, and drug-dealing cartels. They encouraged the crazy stories about Haitians eating pets. They promised a solution--rounding up millions of immigrants and getting rid of them. Even though they couldn't get close to the numbers they promised, this operation has still required wholesale disregard for the law, including a conscious policy of "f--- the courts." They fired experienced immigration judges for properly assessing and deciding cases (mind you, these proceedings are inherently harsh, with small children at times having to appear before judges without counsel). After reassigning military JAG officers to immigration courts, they have continued to fire those who exercise their own legal reasoning in particular cases.

They have stopped asylum proceedings, even though the law mandates the opportunity to seek asylum. They are also putting the breaks on LEGAL visa and immigration processes.

In Idaho, after zip-tying hundreds of people, including citizens, including children (and threatening to "blow your head off" to a zip-tied citizen mother whose citizen 14r year old was also zip-tied), they detained them for hours, leaving the 14 year old (who was dragged from a car) with large bruises on her torso as well as her wrists. They have smashed out the windows of cars driven by people who happened to be near an operation and sprayed tear gas or pepper spray into the faces of citizens, including babies. They lie: in Idaho, local police who did assist ICE admit to the zip-tying of children; ICE has denied this happened. There is a woman from Maryland, a citizen, who has been detained and transferred to a detention center in Lousiana to prepare for deportation. She is a US citizen by birth; ICE claims her birth certificate and other documents that her family has provided are fake. When they detain people, they deliberate move them from one center to another hundreds of miles away to force attorneys to spend precious time and money searching for their clients rather than pursue legal remedies. Trump has made a clear ethnic cleansing statement when he said he would like to get rid of ALL Somalians, period, even though the majority are actually citizens.

There is no way to rationalize or justify this. Putting lipstick on a pig doesn't begin to explain how much is wrong with what is going on.



If there is no constitutional way to do a thing, then there is no legal way to do that thing. It simply cannot be done by the government ande if you do it, then you should go to jail.
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Anonymous wrote:^^ I actually sound 3 different accounts of this. First was an Occupy Democrats post. I always check for alternate sources. NBC left out the parts where he tried to get the agents to see his documentation. The Independent article was sort of in the middle between the Occupy democrats post and the NBC version. NBC spent much more column length about ICE trying and failing to find specific people and also retreating when a building owner did not allow them entry (so they must NOT have had an actual warrant). I kind of felt they were being cautious given what they apparently left out regarding his attempts to prove his citizenship. Here's the Occupy version:

On December 9, Mubashir, a Minneapolis man who has chosen to only disclose his first name, was wrongly arrested by Immigration and Custom Enforcement for the crime of stepping “outside as a Somali American.” During his lunch break, masked men tackled him onto the ground, dragged him across the road, choked, and restrained him. Mubashir insisted that he was a US citizen. He repeatedly offered to show the men his digital passport, as well as to provide his name and date of birth to prove his citizenship. The agents refused.

Independent:

Mubashir was outside on his lunch break in Cedar-Riverside in Minneapolis when he was arrested on Tuesday.
While walking out on the street near 4th Street and Cedar Avenue, Mubashir said he noticed two masked men approach him, to avoid them he went into a nearby restaurant.
The two men followed him inside, dragged him outside, and arrested him. Mubashir was also pushed onto his knees in the snow and put into a chokehold, CBS Newsreported.
Mubashir began yelling, “I have my ID,” to the officers; however, the agents did not respond.
When he was put into the car, Mubashir was asked if the agents could take his picture.
“I declined, because how will a picture prove I’m a US citizen?” he said.
“I told him, ‘I have my passport, it’s in my phone. Can I open it and show you?’ He declined. I told him ‘can I give you my name and my date of birth?’ He declined.”

Here's NBC's report on what Tricia McLaughlin said about the arrest:

“At that time, a second male individual walked out of a nearby restaurant, turned around, and fled from law enforcement,” DHS spokesperson Tricia McLaughlin said in a statement to NBC News. “Having reasonable suspicion--as protected under the U.S. Constitution--officers gave chase and caught up with the individual, who violently resisted officers and refused to answer questions.”

(What a weird interpretation of the 4th Amendment, but hardly surprising from her)



They have no training, they don't identify themselves, and they do not follow the law.

I thought this is what the 2A was for.


Oh NOW you want the 2A?
Where were you when you thought democracy always resulted in reasonably good government?
Trying to ban rifles with a pistol grip, that's what you were busy doing!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is no proper or kind ways to deal with this situation. People are not going to self-report or deport and there is no system for them to catch them so ICE goes wherever they think they could find people.


It's nonsense to say there is no proper way to do this, and what you are really saying is that there is no constitutional way to do this, including no way to do this without repeatedly violating constitutional rights of citizens as well as legal residents. The administration started off with grossly exaggerated numbers of unlawful entry, including claiming that Biden's TPS orders were illegal. They also convinced the right that immigrants were overwhelmingly rapists, murderers, and drug-dealing cartels. They encouraged the crazy stories about Haitians eating pets. They promised a solution--rounding up millions of immigrants and getting rid of them. Even though they couldn't get close to the numbers they promised, this operation has still required wholesale disregard for the law, including a conscious policy of "f--- the courts." They fired experienced immigration judges for properly assessing and deciding cases (mind you, these proceedings are inherently harsh, with small children at times having to appear before judges without counsel). After reassigning military JAG officers to immigration courts, they have continued to fire those who exercise their own legal reasoning in particular cases.

They have stopped asylum proceedings, even though the law mandates the opportunity to seek asylum. They are also putting the breaks on LEGAL visa and immigration processes.

In Idaho, after zip-tying hundreds of people, including citizens, including children (and threatening to "blow your head off" to a zip-tied citizen mother whose citizen 14r year old was also zip-tied), they detained them for hours, leaving the 14 year old (who was dragged from a car) with large bruises on her torso as well as her wrists. They have smashed out the windows of cars driven by people who happened to be near an operation and sprayed tear gas or pepper spray into the faces of citizens, including babies. They lie: in Idaho, local police who did assist ICE admit to the zip-tying of children; ICE has denied this happened. There is a woman from Maryland, a citizen, who has been detained and transferred to a detention center in Lousiana to prepare for deportation. She is a US citizen by birth; ICE claims her birth certificate and other documents that her family has provided are fake. When they detain people, they deliberate move them from one center to another hundreds of miles away to force attorneys to spend precious time and money searching for their clients rather than pursue legal remedies. Trump has made a clear ethnic cleansing statement when he said he would like to get rid of ALL Somalians, period, even though the majority are actually citizens.

There is no way to rationalize or justify this. Putting lipstick on a pig doesn't begin to explain how much is wrong with what is going on.



Thank you. What this Admin and ICE are doing is unConstitutional and an affront to who were are as an American people.


What Biden and the Democrats did opening the borders to millions of unvetted illegal immigrants was the affront to the citizenry of the nation. They didn’t care if they released vile criminals who committed crimes or just general welfare cases who burdened communities. They kept lying to people about the crisis their policies created while showing zero regard for people or communities that were suffering from their man made disaster.

ICE is following the law and deporting illegal immigrants, as Congress has mandated. I am thankful for a President who follows the law and puts the American people first. Since Trump has entered office, job gains have been going to American-born citizens and not illegal foreign nationals like during the Biden years.


NP. I agree completely with you.

More importantly, MOST normal Americans agree with you.

Whenever i travel internationally (which is frequently), i have to follow the laws. Their country; their laws.

I risk the consequences of being deported if i break the other countries’ laws. EVERYONE knows this!

And i would be a laughing-stock if i knowingly broke their immigration laws, got deported back to America, and then tried to cry “But i am a victim!”

Why should the USA be any different than any country on the planet?


I have traveled a bit and I don't think I have ever been rounded up for deportation based on the color of my skin.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is no proper or kind ways to deal with this situation. People are not going to self-report or deport and there is no system for them to catch them so ICE goes wherever they think they could find people.


It's nonsense to say there is no proper way to do this, and what you are really saying is that there is no constitutional way to do this, including no way to do this without repeatedly violating constitutional rights of citizens as well as legal residents. The administration started off with grossly exaggerated numbers of unlawful entry, including claiming that Biden's TPS orders were illegal. They also convinced the right that immigrants were overwhelmingly rapists, murderers, and drug-dealing cartels. They encouraged the crazy stories about Haitians eating pets. They promised a solution--rounding up millions of immigrants and getting rid of them. Even though they couldn't get close to the numbers they promised, this operation has still required wholesale disregard for the law, including a conscious policy of "f--- the courts." They fired experienced immigration judges for properly assessing and deciding cases (mind you, these proceedings are inherently harsh, with small children at times having to appear before judges without counsel). After reassigning military JAG officers to immigration courts, they have continued to fire those who exercise their own legal reasoning in particular cases.

They have stopped asylum proceedings, even though the law mandates the opportunity to seek asylum. They are also putting the breaks on LEGAL visa and immigration processes.

In Idaho, after zip-tying hundreds of people, including citizens, including children (and threatening to "blow your head off" to a zip-tied citizen mother whose citizen 14r year old was also zip-tied), they detained them for hours, leaving the 14 year old (who was dragged from a car) with large bruises on her torso as well as her wrists. They have smashed out the windows of cars driven by people who happened to be near an operation and sprayed tear gas or pepper spray into the faces of citizens, including babies. They lie: in Idaho, local police who did assist ICE admit to the zip-tying of children; ICE has denied this happened. There is a woman from Maryland, a citizen, who has been detained and transferred to a detention center in Lousiana to prepare for deportation. She is a US citizen by birth; ICE claims her birth certificate and other documents that her family has provided are fake. When they detain people, they deliberate move them from one center to another hundreds of miles away to force attorneys to spend precious time and money searching for their clients rather than pursue legal remedies. Trump has made a clear ethnic cleansing statement when he said he would like to get rid of ALL Somalians, period, even though the majority are actually citizens.

There is no way to rationalize or justify this. Putting lipstick on a pig doesn't begin to explain how much is wrong with what is going on.



Thank you. What this Admin and ICE are doing is unConstitutional and an affront to who were are as an American people.


What Biden and the Democrats did opening the borders to millions of unvetted illegal immigrants was the affront to the citizenry of the nation. They didn’t care if they released vile criminals who committed crimes or just general welfare cases who burdened communities. They kept lying to people about the crisis their policies created while showing zero regard for people or communities that were suffering from their man made disaster.

ICE is following the law and deporting illegal immigrants, as Congress has mandated. I am thankful for a President who follows the law and puts the American people first. Since Trump has entered office, job gains have been going to American-born citizens and not illegal foreign nationals like during the Biden years.


NP. I agree completely with you.

More importantly, MOST normal Americans agree with you.

Whenever i travel internationally (which is frequently), i have to follow the laws. Their country; their laws.

I risk the consequences of being deported if i break the other countries’ laws. EVERYONE knows this!

And i would be a laughing-stock if i knowingly broke their immigration laws, got deported back to America, and then tried to cry “But i am a victim!”

Why should the USA be any different than any country on the planet?
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I don't think you know what MOST means. https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/12/15/growing-shares-say-the-trump-administration-is-doing-too-much-to-deport-immigrants-in-the-us-illegally/
Anonymous
This is a different female American born nurse in scrubs than the one from a few weeks ago

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/immigration/article313902889.html#campaignName=miami_breaking_newsletter
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This is a big reason why nobody is self deporting.
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What doesn't make sense about this case is why from the get go didn't her family release pictures of her at the hospital, a photo of her birth certificate, etc. Where is her mother to make a statement she gave birth to her in Maryland. Her attorneys are only sharing redacted copies of the birth certificate and immunization records with news agencies. And why did they only target her and not her sister who was in the car?

The woman and ICE have her listed under different names and birthplaces. The woman is listed in court records as Dulce Consuelo Diaz Morales, and in ICE records as Dulce Consuelo Madrigal Diaz.

This brings up an important point that immigrants who have kids born in the US should immediately get them a US passport or at least a passport card and not leave the country without it.

So now this woman is in a big predicament because she has no memory of being an infant or toddler in the US and is relying on her parents for the information. And the one talking for the family is a 17 year old. Why isn't her attorney recommending to the family they need to get every picture and document of her that they can to create a paper trail and photo age progression? When she enrolled in school in Mexico did the parents list she was born in the US on her school records?
Anonymous
Passports cost money. New mothers often have other things to spend money on than passports.

It really shows privilege when making statements like the bolded.
Anonymous
You anti-ICE rioters have repeatedly demonstrated how violent and deranged you are:

https://www.foxnews.com/us/rioters-throw-trash-large-garbage-cans-ice-vehicles-new-york-city-multiple-arrested

ICE are merely federal workers enforcing the law. You don’t support federal workers?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:You anti-ICE rioters have repeatedly demonstrated how violent and deranged you are:

https://www.foxnews.com/us/rioters-throw-trash-large-garbage-cans-ice-vehicles-new-york-city-multiple-arrested

ICE are merely federal workers enforcing the law. You don’t support federal workers?


This wasn’t even a good troll when you first marched it out. Now it’s just sad.
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