Van Hollen in El Salvador

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:^ Wihtholding removal order to El Salvador--where is he now?

He was denied bail at first, and later asylum because the allowable time to claim was passed.

Between 2019 and 2025

The info in rollingstone has been reported everywhere

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5252884-deportation-legal-battle/

Further, "Since 2019, when he was released with the protective order, Mr Abrego Garcia's lawyers say he has had yearly check-ins with immigration officials, which he has attended "without fail and without incident"."

So he could be deported theoretically, but not to El SAlvador.

ANd again, WHERE IS HE?

Get it now?

He had check ins because he is DEPORTABLE! That’s the whole point. Citizens don’t check in with immigration. He was not permanently authorized to stay and he knew it.

The check ins were required while he pursued citizenship. If there was a point where he should have been deported, they would have. And again, there was an order that he could not be sent to El Salvador.

Look, just give it up. You are so losing on the facts here.

That’s a laughable claim. He was never eligible for citizenship and that’s why his wife never tried to get him a green card. You can’t get citizenship when you enter illegally and he had already been denied asylum. Citizenship was never on the table.

You are correct that he was in legal limbo--undeportable to EL Salvador but no path to citizenship here. Not sure to resolve that.
But the fact remains, there was a legal order prohibiting sending him to EL Salvador and the Trump admin violated it.

Why no pass to citizenship? If his wife an American citizen, why would she not petition for him to obtain a green card and citizenship?

Just curious, would he be eligible for a green card if he has a criminal history of domestic abuse? If he gets a green card but then commits a crime, is his green card revoked? If he enters the country illegally, is he eligible for a green card?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ Wihtholding removal order to El Salvador--where is he now?

He was denied bail at first, and later asylum because the allowable time to claim was passed.

Between 2019 and 2025

The info in rollingstone has been reported everywhere

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5252884-deportation-legal-battle/

Further, "Since 2019, when he was released with the protective order, Mr Abrego Garcia's lawyers say he has had yearly check-ins with immigration officials, which he has attended "without fail and without incident"."

So he could be deported theoretically, but not to El SAlvador.

ANd again, WHERE IS HE?

Get it now?

He had check ins because he is DEPORTABLE! That’s the whole point. Citizens don’t check in with immigration. He was not permanently authorized to stay and he knew it.

The check ins were required while he pursued citizenship. If there was a point where he should have been deported, they would have. And again, there was an order that he could not be sent to El Salvador.

Look, just give it up. You are so losing on the facts here.

That’s a laughable claim. He was never eligible for citizenship and that’s why his wife never tried to get him a green card. You can’t get citizenship when you enter illegally and he had already been denied asylum. Citizenship was never on the table.

You are correct that he was in legal limbo--undeportable to EL Salvador but no path to citizenship here. Not sure to resolve that.
But the fact remains, there was a legal order prohibiting sending him to EL Salvador and the Trump admin violated it.

Why no pass to citizenship? If his wife an American citizen, why would she not petition for him to obtain a green card and citizenship?

Because even if you are married to a US citizen, the path to a legal residency is very difficult, expensive, and lengthy. It requires leaving the country for a long period of time and returning. I know of two people who have done that for spouses. I think they were gone for a year. Costs can be $40k or more.

A parent of a young child with a disability would have to chose between leaving their disabled child and spouse without support for a long period of time. It’s likely they didn’t have the money.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ Wihtholding removal order to El Salvador--where is he now?

He was denied bail at first, and later asylum because the allowable time to claim was passed.

Between 2019 and 2025

The info in rollingstone has been reported everywhere

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5252884-deportation-legal-battle/

Further, "Since 2019, when he was released with the protective order, Mr Abrego Garcia's lawyers say he has had yearly check-ins with immigration officials, which he has attended "without fail and without incident"."

So he could be deported theoretically, but not to El SAlvador.

ANd again, WHERE IS HE?

Get it now?

He had check ins because he is DEPORTABLE! That’s the whole point. Citizens don’t check in with immigration. He was not permanently authorized to stay and he knew it.

The check ins were required while he pursued citizenship. If there was a point where he should have been deported, they would have. And again, there was an order that he could not be sent to El Salvador.

Look, just give it up. You are so losing on the facts here.

That’s a laughable claim. He was never eligible for citizenship and that’s why his wife never tried to get him a green card. You can’t get citizenship when you enter illegally and he had already been denied asylum. Citizenship was never on the table.

You are correct that he was in legal limbo--undeportable to EL Salvador but no path to citizenship here. Not sure to resolve that.
But the fact remains, there was a legal order prohibiting sending him to EL Salvador and the Trump admin violated it.

Why no pass to citizenship? If his wife an American citizen, why would she not petition for him to obtain a green card and citizenship?

He came in illegally.
He has a criminal record.

Not sure how many ways to say that this is irrelevant legally.

OUR PRESIDENT IS DEFYING THE COURTS. THE SUPREME COURT.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ Wihtholding removal order to El Salvador--where is he now?

He was denied bail at first, and later asylum because the allowable time to claim was passed.

Between 2019 and 2025

The info in rollingstone has been reported everywhere

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5252884-deportation-legal-battle/

Further, "Since 2019, when he was released with the protective order, Mr Abrego Garcia's lawyers say he has had yearly check-ins with immigration officials, which he has attended "without fail and without incident"."

So he could be deported theoretically, but not to El SAlvador.

ANd again, WHERE IS HE?

Get it now?

He had check ins because he is DEPORTABLE! That’s the whole point. Citizens don’t check in with immigration. He was not permanently authorized to stay and he knew it.

The check ins were required while he pursued citizenship. If there was a point where he should have been deported, they would have. And again, there was an order that he could not be sent to El Salvador.

Look, just give it up. You are so losing on the facts here.

That’s a laughable claim. He was never eligible for citizenship and that’s why his wife never tried to get him a green card. You can’t get citizenship when you enter illegally and he had already been denied asylum. Citizenship was never on the table.

You are correct that he was in legal limbo--undeportable to EL Salvador but no path to citizenship here. Not sure to resolve that.
But the fact remains, there was a legal order prohibiting sending him to EL Salvador and the Trump admin violated it.

Why no pass to citizenship? If his wife an American citizen, why would she not petition for him to obtain a green card and citizenship?

He came in illegally.
He has a criminal record.

Not sure how many ways to say that this is irrelevant legally.

OUR PRESIDENT IS DEFYING THE COURTS. THE SUPREME COURT.

They are okay with that. Trumpers thought Trump had "fixed" the Supreme Court.

They are hiding that the Constitution doesn't mean anything anymore.

They don't want the rest of us not following the American myth anymore. It makes it easier for them to rob from us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ Wihtholding removal order to El Salvador--where is he now?

He was denied bail at first, and later asylum because the allowable time to claim was passed.

Between 2019 and 2025

The info in rollingstone has been reported everywhere

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5252884-deportation-legal-battle/

Further, "Since 2019, when he was released with the protective order, Mr Abrego Garcia's lawyers say he has had yearly check-ins with immigration officials, which he has attended "without fail and without incident"."

So he could be deported theoretically, but not to El SAlvador.

ANd again, WHERE IS HE?

Get it now?

He had check ins because he is DEPORTABLE! That’s the whole point. Citizens don’t check in with immigration. He was not permanently authorized to stay and he knew it.

The check ins were required while he pursued citizenship. If there was a point where he should have been deported, they would have. And again, there was an order that he could not be sent to El Salvador.

Look, just give it up. You are so losing on the facts here.

That’s a laughable claim. He was never eligible for citizenship and that’s why his wife never tried to get him a green card. You can’t get citizenship when you enter illegally and he had already been denied asylum. Citizenship was never on the table.

You are correct that he was in legal limbo--undeportable to EL Salvador but no path to citizenship here. Not sure to resolve that.
But the fact remains, there was a legal order prohibiting sending him to EL Salvador and the Trump admin violated it.

Why no pass to citizenship? If his wife an American citizen, why would she not petition for him to obtain a green card and citizenship?

Because even if you are married to a US citizen, the path to a legal residency is very difficult, expensive, and lengthy. It requires leaving the country for a long period of time and returning. I know of two people who have done that for spouses. I think they were gone for a year. Costs can be $40k or more.

A parent of a young child with a disability would have to chose between leaving their disabled child and spouse without support for a long period of time. It’s likely they didn’t have the money.

I know dozens of of people who got their green cards through the marriage within 1.5-2 years without leaving US. The forms are pretty easy to fill and very self explanatory, plus USCIS provides great instructions. Ery easy, straightforward and not expensive process ( you only pay for filing the forms).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ Wihtholding removal order to El Salvador--where is he now?

He was denied bail at first, and later asylum because the allowable time to claim was passed.

Between 2019 and 2025

The info in rollingstone has been reported everywhere

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5252884-deportation-legal-battle/

Further, "Since 2019, when he was released with the protective order, Mr Abrego Garcia's lawyers say he has had yearly check-ins with immigration officials, which he has attended "without fail and without incident"."

So he could be deported theoretically, but not to El SAlvador.

ANd again, WHERE IS HE?

Get it now?

He had check ins because he is DEPORTABLE! That’s the whole point. Citizens don’t check in with immigration. He was not permanently authorized to stay and he knew it.

The check ins were required while he pursued citizenship. If there was a point where he should have been deported, they would have. And again, there was an order that he could not be sent to El Salvador.

Look, just give it up. You are so losing on the facts here.

That’s a laughable claim. He was never eligible for citizenship and that’s why his wife never tried to get him a green card. You can’t get citizenship when you enter illegally and he had already been denied asylum. Citizenship was never on the table.

You are correct that he was in legal limbo--undeportable to EL Salvador but no path to citizenship here. Not sure to resolve that.
But the fact remains, there was a legal order prohibiting sending him to EL Salvador and the Trump admin violated it.

Why no pass to citizenship? If his wife an American citizen, why would she not petition for him to obtain a green card and citizenship?

He came in illegally.
He has a criminal record.

Not sure how many ways to say that this is irrelevant legally.

OUR PRESIDENT IS DEFYING THE COURTS. THE SUPREME COURT.

They are okay with that. Trumpers thought Trump had "fixed" the Supreme Court.

They are hiding that the Constitution doesn't mean anything anymore.

They don't want the rest of us not following the American myth anymore. It makes it easier for them to rob from us.

EVERY SINGLE POST DEBATING HIS GUILT IS NOT THE POINT.

The point is our president is making excuses for ignoring the Supreme Court.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ Wihtholding removal order to El Salvador--where is he now?

He was denied bail at first, and later asylum because the allowable time to claim was passed.

Between 2019 and 2025

The info in rollingstone has been reported everywhere

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5252884-deportation-legal-battle/

Further, "Since 2019, when he was released with the protective order, Mr Abrego Garcia's lawyers say he has had yearly check-ins with immigration officials, which he has attended "without fail and without incident"."

So he could be deported theoretically, but not to El SAlvador.

ANd again, WHERE IS HE?

Get it now?

He had check ins because he is DEPORTABLE! That’s the whole point. Citizens don’t check in with immigration. He was not permanently authorized to stay and he knew it.

The check ins were required while he pursued citizenship. If there was a point where he should have been deported, they would have. And again, there was an order that he could not be sent to El Salvador.

Look, just give it up. You are so losing on the facts here.

That’s a laughable claim. He was never eligible for citizenship and that’s why his wife never tried to get him a green card. You can’t get citizenship when you enter illegally and he had already been denied asylum. Citizenship was never on the table.

You are correct that he was in legal limbo--undeportable to EL Salvador but no path to citizenship here. Not sure to resolve that.
But the fact remains, there was a legal order prohibiting sending him to EL Salvador and the Trump admin violated it.

Why no pass to citizenship? If his wife an American citizen, why would she not petition for him to obtain a green card and citizenship?

Because even if you are married to a US citizen, the path to a legal residency is very difficult, expensive, and lengthy. It requires leaving the country for a long period of time and returning. I know of two people who have done that for spouses. I think they were gone for a year. Costs can be $40k or more.

A parent of a young child with a disability would have to chose between leaving their disabled child and spouse without support for a long period of time. It’s likely they didn’t have the money.

I know dozens of of people who got their green cards through the marriage within 1.5-2 years without leaving US. The forms are pretty easy to fill and very self explanatory, plus USCIS provides great instructions. Ery easy, straightforward and not expensive process ( you only pay for filing the forms).

Did they come here illegally? I think that makes a difference.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain to me what power does a US senator has to go to the foreign country and demand that that country release their own citizen???? Based on what? Garcia is a citizen of El Salvador and El Salvador made decision not to release him. How is it legal for the foreign government to exercise any power over the citizens of El Salvador in El Salvador?

Because ES is only keeping him locked up bc the US is paying them to do so. If we stopped giving our money to ES he’d be released.

A foreign country can choose who they incarcerate based on their own rules. What power does US have to tell them what to do with their own citizens?

We keep telling you—the US IS dictating what happens to this guy. The US is paying to keep him in prison.

Just because it was reported in us media, does not make those true.

Just shut up with your cutesy point.

No one cares if he is paying for Venezuelans, salvadorans, or future Americans.

The Trump administration has made a huge mistake and admitted it. FIX IT.

Not all mistakes require fixing, you know that. We will just move on.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So, if any foreign official, let say Iranian or Russian president, shows up in IS prison and demand to release a IS citizen held in US prison, do we have to comply with that? Under what authority our senator demands the release of Salvadorian from ES prison?

Nonsense and you know it

If Garcia allowed to rewnter US, this would create a bad precedent for foreign governments to come to IS and to demand a release of US citizen from prison. Do we really want it?

[Anonymous]

OMFG!!

That prison looks absolutely HORRIBLE!!

[Anonymous]

Garcia’s claim for not returning to the ES was because it will put his life in danger. But we all see that he is not in danger, he is doing well, well fed ( i would even say overfed). His claim for withholding now becomes false?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OMFG!!

That prison looks absolutely HORRIBLE!!

You aren’t possibly this dumb . You can’t be.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OMFG!!

That prison looks absolutely HORRIBLE!!

Oh?

I remember the Kristi Noem pin up pictures

Sure looks bad

It's nice they could find a shirt for him

[Anonymous]

As a former Marylander, Van Hollen is way off base here. MS-13 is inside the schools, girls are being kidnapped and trafficked, rival teens are being lured into the woods and stabbed to death. A poor kid was murdered at Lake Forest mall for the crime of wearing a shirt the wrong color. This gang has gutted the once thriving communities of Montgomery Village, Germantown, and much of Gaithersburg. Who exactly is Van Hollen appealing to or protecting? The vast majority of the victims of MS-13 are Hispanic teens. This isn't a white vs POC thing. This is a criminal vs peaceful person thing. He needs to get a clue and talk to Maryland parents who've had pieces of their children returned to them in bags.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ Wihtholding removal order to El Salvador--where is he now?

He was denied bail at first, and later asylum because the allowable time to claim was passed.

Between 2019 and 2025

The info in rollingstone has been reported everywhere

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5252884-deportation-legal-battle/

Further, "Since 2019, when he was released with the protective order, Mr Abrego Garcia's lawyers say he has had yearly check-ins with immigration officials, which he has attended "without fail and without incident"."

So he could be deported theoretically, but not to El SAlvador.

ANd again, WHERE IS HE?

Get it now?

He had check ins because he is DEPORTABLE! That’s the whole point. Citizens don’t check in with immigration. He was not permanently authorized to stay and he knew it.

The check ins were required while he pursued citizenship. If there was a point where he should have been deported, they would have. And again, there was an order that he could not be sent to El Salvador.

Look, just give it up. You are so losing on the facts here.

That’s a laughable claim. He was never eligible for citizenship and that’s why his wife never tried to get him a green card. You can’t get citizenship when you enter illegally and he had already been denied asylum. Citizenship was never on the table.

You are correct that he was in legal limbo--undeportable to EL Salvador but no path to citizenship here. Not sure to resolve that.
But the fact remains, there was a legal order prohibiting sending him to EL Salvador and the Trump admin violated it.

Why no pass to citizenship? If his wife an American citizen, why would she not petition for him to obtain a green card and citizenship?

He came in illegally.
He has a criminal record.

He came in illegally

Correct, but so did Elon Musk, who committed visa fraud by coming in on a student visa in the 90s and not attending university.

He has a criminal record.

False. He has no criminal record in the United States because he has never been charged with or convicted of any crime in the U.S. In 2019, he was arrested with some other day laborers in a Home Depot parking lot in Maryland, but no charges were filed against him. The arrest led to immigration proceedings, during which the government alleged gang affiliation. However, these allegations were not substantiated, and a judge granted him "withholding of removal" status due to the dangers he faced if returned to El Salvador. ​That status allowed him to stay here legally and work legally.