Wuhan virus (coronavirus) arrives in the USA

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How do you know we have no native cases?

We aren’t testing here for community spread.

In order to qualify for one of the very few tests the CDC will do or health depts will do, the criteria are to have contact with recent travel to Wuhan.

So how do we know we don’t have cases coming from other places?

Italy didn’t know they had native cases until they started testing. Now they are testing thousands and finding many.

Exactly.

The CDC leadership needs to be fired, among other things.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/02/25/cdc-coronavirus-test/

Don't blame the CDC. You think they have any policy-making power? When the National Security Advisor begins the NSC meetings by reading Trump's tweets, you can't believe that anyone with any real expertise is making the decisions.

No, this was a CDC f*ck up. The tests they developed don't work. This is a tactical failure, not a strategic one.

[Anonymous]

By the way... today...

322 cases total in Italy, 11 deaths

France 2 more cases


Barcelona 1 new case

Austria 2

Switzerland 1

Croatia 1

(Cases mostly related to Italy travel...)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How do you know we have no native cases?

We aren’t testing here for community spread.

In order to qualify for one of the very few tests the CDC will do or health depts will do, the criteria are to have contact with recent travel to Wuhan.

So how do we know we don’t have cases coming from other places?

Italy didn’t know they had native cases until they started testing. Now they are testing thousands and finding many.

Exactly.

The CDC leadership needs to be fired, among other things.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/02/25/cdc-coronavirus-test/

Don't blame the CDC. You think they have any policy-making power? When the National Security Advisor begins the NSC meetings by reading Trump's tweets, you can't believe that anyone with any real expertise is making the decisions.

No, this was a CDC f*ck up. The tests they developed don't work. This is a tactical failure, not a strategic one.

And what were the good strategic decisions the administration has made re: COVID-19?

[Anonymous]

And it is a failure of the CDC to keep saying “no community spread” and allowing the public to believe they are testing for community spread.

The public will be VERY ANGRy in another two weeks when there are deaths being reported and the en they are told “oh yes we have 1000 cases”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How do you know we have no native cases?

We aren’t testing here for community spread.

In order to qualify for one of the very few tests the CDC will do or health depts will do, the criteria are to have contact with recent travel to Wuhan.

So how do we know we don’t have cases coming from other places?

Italy didn’t know they had native cases until they started testing. Now they are testing thousands and finding many.

Exactly.

The CDC leadership needs to be fired, among other things.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/02/25/cdc-coronavirus-test/

Don't blame the CDC. You think they have any policy-making power? When the National Security Advisor begins the NSC meetings by reading Trump's tweets, you can't believe that anyone with any real expertise is making the decisions.

No, this was a CDC f*ck up. The tests they developed don't work. This is a tactical failure, not a strategic one.

And what were the good strategic decisions the administration has made re: COVID-19?

Zero. But that's not what send faulty tests across the country.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:By the way... today...

322 cases total in Italy, 11 deaths

France 2 more cases


Barcelona 1 new case

Austria 2

Switzerland 1

Croatia 1

(Cases mostly related to Italy travel...)

There's a Eurocentric bias in the reporting above, but will add that of the two new French cases one was China-related and the other was Italy related.

While the Italian spread is worth watching, the Iran spread has happened even faster and to many more countries. In the meantime, South Korean cases are nearing 1000.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How do you know we have no native cases?

We aren’t testing here for community spread.

In order to qualify for one of the very few tests the CDC will do or health depts will do, the criteria are to have contact with recent travel to Wuhan.

So how do we know we don’t have cases coming from other places?

Italy didn’t know they had native cases until they started testing. Now they are testing thousands and finding many.

Exactly.

The CDC leadership needs to be fired, among other things.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/02/25/cdc-coronavirus-test/

Don't blame the CDC. You think they have any policy-making power? When the National Security Advisor begins the NSC meetings by reading Trump's tweets, you can't believe that anyone with any real expertise is making the decisions.

No, this was a CDC f*ck up. The tests they developed don't work. This is a tactical failure, not a strategic one.

And what were the good strategic decisions the administration has made re: COVID-19?

Zero. But that's not what send faulty tests across the country.

Blaming the administration for CDC screw-ups let's the CDC off the hook too easily. Pretty sure the decision to pursue a perfect test instead of an okay test was all theirs, so failure to deliver tests in a timely way when other countries are testing thousands a day is all on them.

And the really subpar public information is also all on them.

[Anonymous]

Maybe if the administration hadn’t cut the CDC budget....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:By the way... today...

322 cases total in Italy, 11 deaths

France 2 more cases


Barcelona 1 new case

Austria 2

Switzerland 1

Croatia 1

(Cases mostly related to Italy travel...)

There's a Eurocentric bias in the reporting above, but will add that of the two new French cases one was China-related and the other was Italy related.

While the Italian spread is worth watching, the Iran spread has happened even faster and to many more countries. In the meantime, South Korean cases are nearing 1000.

I know it’s biased but be honest... no one was paying when cases were just in Iran and S Korea and Japan.

Spread in Italy and Switzerland messes with peoples spring break and college jr year abroad and suddenly stocks drop.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How do you know we have no native cases?

We aren’t testing here for community spread.

In order to qualify for one of the very few tests the CDC will do or health depts will do, the criteria are to have contact with recent travel to Wuhan.

So how do we know we don’t have cases coming from other places?

Italy didn’t know they had native cases until they started testing. Now they are testing thousands and finding many.

Exactly.

The CDC leadership needs to be fired, among other things.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/02/25/cdc-coronavirus-test/

Don't blame the CDC. You think they have any policy-making power? When the National Security Advisor begins the NSC meetings by reading Trump's tweets, you can't believe that anyone with any real expertise is making the decisions.

No, this was a CDC f*ck up. The tests they developed don't work. This is a tactical failure, not a strategic one.

And what were the good strategic decisions the administration has made re: COVID-19?

Zero. But that's not what send faulty tests across the country.

Blaming the administration for CDC screw-ups let's the CDC off the hook too easily. Pretty sure the decision to pursue a perfect test instead of an okay test was all theirs, so failure to deliver tests in a timely way when other countries are testing thousands a day is all on them.

And the really subpar public information is also all on them.

100%

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How do you know we have no native cases?

We aren’t testing here for community spread.

In order to qualify for one of the very few tests the CDC will do or health depts will do, the criteria are to have contact with recent travel to Wuhan.

So how do we know we don’t have cases coming from other places?

Italy didn’t know they had native cases until they started testing. Now they are testing thousands and finding many.

Exactly.

The CDC leadership needs to be fired, among other things.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/02/25/cdc-coronavirus-test/

Don't blame the CDC. You think they have any policy-making power? When the National Security Advisor begins the NSC meetings by reading Trump's tweets, you can't believe that anyone with any real expertise is making the decisions.

No, this was a CDC f*ck up. The tests they developed don't work. This is a tactical failure, not a strategic one.

And what were the good strategic decisions the administration has made re: COVID-19?

Zero. But that's not what send faulty tests across the country.

Blaming the administration for CDC screw-ups let's the CDC off the hook too easily. Pretty sure the decision to pursue a perfect test instead of an okay test was all theirs, so failure to deliver tests in a timely way when other countries are testing thousands a day is all on them.

And the really subpar public information is also all on them.

It's not sub-par information. You want something else, a pony perhaps?, but the CDC's information is what the information is.

The test SNAFU is pretty frustrating, but the website and public dissemination of information is fine.

[Anonymous]

The CDC should not be issuing vague guidance that does nothing except induce panic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The CDC should not be issuing vague guidance that does nothing except induce panic.

They aren't...

No one is panicking. Not even you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The CDC should not be issuing vague guidance that does nothing except induce panic.

They aren't...

No one is panicking. Not even you.

Have you read their latest statement? All it says is we should prepare for an inevitable outbreak here, but gives no information about what the US outbreak might look like. That's not helpful.

[Anonymous]

Question for all you fear mongers -

I am trying to be prepared but I actually think widespread quarantines in the US are very unlikely. I think it's more likely that schools close, gatherings are cancelled, and people are encouraged to stay away from each other. Either way, do you think we would still be able to get Amazon deliveries? I know it sounds like a dumb question, but I'm not thinking about my need to get a new set of flip flops in 24 hours, I'm thinking about .... batteries - for my Braun ear thermometer (and my kids' video game controllers, which will be crucial to me being able to work from home), I'm thinking about toothpaste, or milk, or butter, or motrin, or bleach. Do we think those things will continue to be delivered or no? Makes a difference on how people stock up.