Is there or isn’t there a crisis on the border?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is about the border crisis. You may start another thread about homelessness. Thanks!

What's the difference?

In both cases, you have people who are poor and in many cases, physically and mentally sick.

But here's the question. Would you rather continue [b]to send the millions to Central America or use those millions toward those suffering inside of our borders?

By your post, it appears that you're prioritizing Central Americans over our current citizens.

DP. If Republicans are that concerned about the homeless population, why do they strip them of their voting rights?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Imagine your home security camera showing this?

https://100percentfedup.com/texas-woman-shocked-when-home-security-video-shows-swarm-of-illegals-around-her-home/

Oh, just few peaceful able bodied military age runners in training for Olympics.
Right?

You are just using this site to amplify Trumpian disinformation about a complete nothingburger.

Border crisis? There is no crisis. Simply a number of refugees and good people trying to come into this country to improve their lives.

Be better

Thank you!

There are currently 100k people coming across per month. When will it hit crisis mode in your perspective? President Obama's DHS chief has said there is a crisis right now. The democratic congressman whose district borders 700+ miles of the border has said there is a crisis. Stop gaslighting. This is a crisis.

Exactly.

When are you going to acknowledge the dire humanitarian crisis that Trump and people like you and the PP are purposefully ignoring because it’s inconvenient?

The people coming to this country from the south are desperate. They are fleeing horrific violence and deep poverty. History will judge you.

1. How many are you housing?
2. Where exactly would you like to put the rest of them?
3. Do you actually want to maintain open borders for everyone in the world who is enduring violence and poverty?

Thank you.

Anyone??

Crickets.

These people aren’t just “anyone in the world” - they are our neighbors. Thier crises have become our crises because we are not meaningfully addressing the root issues that make Central America one of the most violent and impoverished in the world. No one is talking about helping everyone in the world; we are talking about helping people in Mexico, Honduras, El Salvador, and Guatemala, among other CA countries. Unless we do that, people will keep coming because they are desperate to survive.

Oh and by the way, most illegal immigrants come here through airports and overstay thier legally obtained visas. But don’t let facts about illegal immigrants interfere with your temper tantrum. No wall to the south will fix that and as long as people are desperate enough, they will find ways around walls and barriers, just like they do today.

We helped to create the mess that is Central America and yet aren’t willing to help fix it.

Wrong. We have sent billions of dollars in aid to Central America - year after year - to help alleviate those problems, yet there is nothing to show for it. That money could have been used here in the U.S. to fight the opioid epidemic, homelessness, etc. But instead, it's been flushed down the toilet. Central Americans will *always* want to come to the U.S. and no amount of aid will change that. I'm tired of giving away billions of dollars to countries that won't use it as intended, and I know many people who feel the same way. Enough is enough.
-DP

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Imagine your home security camera showing this?

https://100percentfedup.com/texas-woman-shocked-when-home-security-video-shows-swarm-of-illegals-around-her-home/

Oh, just few peaceful able bodied military age runners in training for Olympics.
Right?

You are just using this site to amplify Trumpian disinformation about a complete nothingburger.

Border crisis? There is no crisis. Simply a number of refugees and good people trying to come into this country to improve their lives.

Be better

Thank you!

There are currently 100k people coming across per month. When will it hit crisis mode in your perspective? President Obama's DHS chief has said there is a crisis right now. The democratic congressman whose district borders 700+ miles of the border has said there is a crisis. Stop gaslighting. This is a crisis.

Exactly.

When are you going to acknowledge the dire humanitarian crisis that Trump and people like you and the PP are purposefully ignoring because it’s inconvenient?

The people coming to this country from the south are desperate. They are fleeing horrific violence and deep poverty. History will judge you.

1. How many are you housing?
2. Where exactly would you like to put the rest of them?
3. Do you actually want to maintain open borders for everyone in the world who is enduring violence and poverty?

Thank you.

Anyone??

Crickets.

These people aren’t just “anyone in the world” - they are our neighbors. Thier crises have become our crises because we are not meaningfully addressing the root issues that make Central America one of the most violent and impoverished in the world. No one is talking about helping everyone in the world; we are talking about helping people in Mexico, Honduras, El Salvador, and Guatemala, among other CA countries. Unless we do that, people will keep coming because they are desperate to survive.

Oh and by the way, most illegal immigrants come here through airports and overstay thier legally obtained visas. But don’t let facts about illegal immigrants interfere with your temper tantrum. No wall to the south will fix that and as long as people are desperate enough, they will find ways around walls and barriers, just like they do today.

We helped to create the mess that is Central America and yet aren’t willing to help fix it.

Wrong. We have sent billions of dollars in aid to Central America - year after year - to help alleviate those problems, yet there is nothing to show for it. That money could have been used here in the U.S. to fight the opioid epidemic, homelessness, etc. But instead, it's been flushed down the toilet. Central Americans will *always* want to come to the U.S. and no amount of aid will change that. I'm tired of giving away billions of dollars to countries that won't use it as intended, and I know many people who feel the same way. Enough is enough.
-DP

It has helped in Colombia.

“[Plan Colombia was a] wide-ranging U.S. cooperation with Colombia to assist that country in combating drugs, guerrilla violence, and related institutional and social problems. ”

“Plan Colombia was a successful demonstration of how the U.S. could achieve security aims with a limited investment of military force.”

https://www.americasquarterly.org/node/3787

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hilarious the way Lefties here shut-up whenever you ask them to make some concrete suggestions.

All they know how to do is complain. How is that useful?

It isn't. But perhaps it makes them feel better.

We don’t think your made up crisis is real.

So then the NYT and WaPo (among others) are lying? Come out and say they're lying.

They are quoting people who say it’s a crisis. ??

Nope. Liberals revere the NYT and WaPo. They wouldn't print information that wasn't true, right? So what you are saying is that these sources are lying. Admit it.

Someone said “we have a crisis” and the quote was reported. It’s not an editorial.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hilarious the way Lefties here shut-up whenever you ask them to make some concrete suggestions.

All they know how to do is complain. How is that useful?

It isn't. But perhaps it makes them feel better.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Imagine your home security camera showing this?

https://100percentfedup.com/texas-woman-shocked-when-home-security-video-shows-swarm-of-illegals-around-her-home/

Oh, just few peaceful able bodied military age runners in training for Olympics.
Right?

You are just using this site to amplify Trumpian disinformation about a complete nothingburger.

Border crisis? There is no crisis. Simply a number of refugees and good people trying to come into this country to improve their lives.

Be better

Thank you!

There are currently 100k people coming across per month. When will it hit crisis mode in your perspective? President Obama's DHS chief has said there is a crisis right now. The democratic congressman whose district borders 700+ miles of the border has said there is a crisis. Stop gaslighting. This is a crisis.

Exactly.

When are you going to acknowledge the dire humanitarian crisis that Trump and people like you and the PP are purposefully ignoring because it’s inconvenient?

The people coming to this country from the south are desperate. They are fleeing horrific violence and deep poverty. History will judge you.

1. How many are you housing?
2. Where exactly would you like to put the rest of them?
3. Do you actually want to maintain open borders for everyone in the world who is enduring violence and poverty?

Thank you.

Anyone??

Crickets.

These people aren’t just “anyone in the world” - they are our neighbors. Thier crises have become our crises because we are not meaningfully addressing the root issues that make Central America one of the most violent and impoverished in the world. No one is talking about helping everyone in the world; we are talking about helping people in Mexico, Honduras, El Salvador, and Guatemala, among other CA countries. Unless we do that, people will keep coming because they are desperate to survive.

Oh and by the way, most illegal immigrants come here through airports and overstay thier legally obtained visas. But don’t let facts about illegal immigrants interfere with your temper tantrum. No wall to the south will fix that and as long as people are desperate enough, they will find ways around walls and barriers, just like they do today.

We helped to create the mess that is Central America and yet aren’t willing to help fix it.

Wrong. We have sent billions of dollars in aid to Central America - year after year - to help alleviate those problems, yet there is nothing to show for it. That money could have been used here in the U.S. to fight the opioid epidemic, homelessness, etc. But instead, it's been flushed down the toilet. Central Americans will *always* want to come to the U.S. and no amount of aid will change that. I'm tired of giving away billions of dollars to countries that won't use it as intended, and I know many people who feel the same way. Enough is enough.
-DP

It has helped in Colombia.

“[Plan Colombia was a] wide-ranging U.S. cooperation with Colombia to assist that country in combating drugs, guerrilla violence, and related institutional and social problems. ”

“Plan Colombia was a successful demonstration of how the U.S. could achieve security aims with a limited investment of military force.”

https://www.americasquarterly.org/node/3787

Why have Central American countries repeatedly squandered U.S. aid then? Why don't they follow Colombia's model? Regardless, it's not our job to continue bailing them out.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hilarious the way Lefties here shut-up whenever you ask them to make some concrete suggestions.

All they know how to do is complain. How is that useful?

It isn't. But perhaps it makes them feel better.

We don’t think your made up crisis is real.

So then the NYT and WaPo (among others) are lying? Come out and say they're lying.

They are quoting people who say it’s a crisis. ??

Nope. Liberals revere the NYT and WaPo. They wouldn't print information that wasn't true, right? So what you are saying is that these sources are lying. Admit it.

Someone said “we have a crisis” and the quote was reported. It’s not an editorial.

If you are still denying there is a crisis at the border, even after multiple news sources from all sides of the political spectrum have told you there is, then I think the crisis is with your mental health. Might want to remove your tinfoil hat and blinders.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hilarious the way Lefties here shut-up whenever you ask them to make some concrete suggestions.

All they know how to do is complain. How is that useful?

It isn't. But perhaps it makes them feel better.

We don’t think your made up crisis is real.

So then the NYT and WaPo (among others) are lying? Come out and say they're lying.

They are quoting people who say it’s a crisis. ??

Nope. Liberals revere the NYT and WaPo. They wouldn't print information that wasn't true, right? So what you are saying is that these sources are lying. Admit it.

Someone said “we have a crisis” and the quote was reported. It’s not an editorial.

If you are still denying there is a crisis at the border, even after multiple news sources from all sides of the political spectrum have told you there is, then I think the crisis is with your mental health. Might want to remove your tinfoil hat and blinders.

The actual crisis is the violence and instability in Central America - partly caused the the US. If you have an issue with too many refugees coming to our border then fix the issue.

A wall won’t keep them out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hilarious the way Lefties here shut-up whenever you ask them to make some concrete suggestions.

All they know how to do is complain. How is that useful?

It isn't. But perhaps it makes them feel better.

Bunch of complainers. You manufacture an issue and then complain that other people aren’t fixing it for you. Typical MAGA loser. No personal responsibility.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Imagine your home security camera showing this?

https://100percentfedup.com/texas-woman-shocked-when-home-security-video-shows-swarm-of-illegals-around-her-home/

Oh, just few peaceful able bodied military age runners in training for Olympics.
Right?

You are just using this site to amplify Trumpian disinformation about a complete nothingburger.

Border crisis? There is no crisis. Simply a number of refugees and good people trying to come into this country to improve their lives.

Be better

Thank you!

There are currently 100k people coming across per month. When will it hit crisis mode in your perspective? President Obama's DHS chief has said there is a crisis right now. The democratic congressman whose district borders 700+ miles of the border has said there is a crisis. Stop gaslighting. This is a crisis.

Exactly.

When are you going to acknowledge the dire humanitarian crisis that Trump and people like you and the PP are purposefully ignoring because it’s inconvenient?

The people coming to this country from the south are desperate. They are fleeing horrific violence and deep poverty. History will judge you.

1. How many are you housing?
2. Where exactly would you like to put the rest of them?
3. Do you actually want to maintain open borders for everyone in the world who is enduring violence and poverty?

Thank you.

Anyone??

Crickets.

These people aren’t just “anyone in the world” - they are our neighbors. Thier crises have become our crises because we are not meaningfully addressing the root issues that make Central America one of the most violent and impoverished in the world. No one is talking about helping everyone in the world; we are talking about helping people in Mexico, Honduras, El Salvador, and Guatemala, among other CA countries. Unless we do that, people will keep coming because they are desperate to survive.

Oh and by the way, most illegal immigrants come here through airports and overstay thier legally obtained visas. But don’t let facts about illegal immigrants interfere with your temper tantrum. No wall to the south will fix that and as long as people are desperate enough, they will find ways around walls and barriers, just like they do today.

We helped to create the mess that is Central America and yet aren’t willing to help fix it.

Wrong. We have sent billions of dollars in aid to Central America - year after year - to help alleviate those problems, yet there is nothing to show for it. That money could have been used here in the U.S. to fight the opioid epidemic, homelessness, etc. But instead, it's been flushed down the toilet. Central Americans will *always* want to come to the U.S. and no amount of aid will change that. I'm tired of giving away billions of dollars to countries that won't use it as intended, and I know many people who feel the same way. Enough is enough.
-DP

It has helped in Colombia.

“[Plan Colombia was a] wide-ranging U.S. cooperation with Colombia to assist that country in combating drugs, guerrilla violence, and related institutional and social problems. ”

“Plan Colombia was a successful demonstration of how the U.S. could achieve security aims with a limited investment of military force.”

https://www.americasquarterly.org/node/3787

Why have Central American countries repeatedly squandered U.S. aid then? Why don't they follow Colombia's model? Regardless, it's not our job to continue bailing them out.

Was aid given in a comprehensive manner as in Colombia? Obviously there is room for improvement.

If you want fewer refugees then fix the actual issue.

[Anonymous]

Everything Trump does makes things worse. He has no clue what is really going on or what to do about anything. He is just a simple minded bigot with a simple minded bigot’s world view of stereotypes, conspiracy theories, and self-serving myths.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hilarious the way Lefties here shut-up whenever you ask them to make some concrete suggestions.

All they know how to do is complain. How is that useful?

It isn't. But perhaps it makes them feel better.

We don’t think your made up crisis is real.

So then the NYT and WaPo (among others) are lying? Come out and say they're lying.

They are quoting people who say it’s a crisis. ??

Nope. Liberals revere the NYT and WaPo. They wouldn't print information that wasn't true, right? So what you are saying is that these sources are lying. Admit it.

Someone said “we have a crisis” and the quote was reported. It’s not an editorial.

If you are still denying there is a crisis at the border, even after multiple news sources from all sides of the political spectrum have told you there is, then I think the crisis is with your mental health. Might want to remove your tinfoil hat and blinders.

The actual crisis is the violence and instability in Central America - partly caused the the US. If you have an issue with too many refugees coming to our border then fix the issue.

A wall won’t keep them out.

You keep pushing this false narrative that violence and instability in CA is partly caused by the US. Sorry, after billions and billions of dollars have been sent there to help, I'm done with the idea that we're somehow "responsible" for their present-day predicament. We've more than compensated them, but they have failed to use our aid wisely. Not our problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hilarious the way Lefties here shut-up whenever you ask them to make some concrete suggestions.

All they know how to do is complain. How is that useful?

It isn't. But perhaps it makes them feel better.

Bunch of complainers. You manufacture an issue and then complain that other people aren’t fixing it for you. Typical MAGA loser. No personal responsibility.

DP. What are YOU personally doing to help these people? Nothing? Didn't think so.

[Anonymous]

Congress has some work to do to change the laws that make it easy for people to come here.

Heard a report tonight from border patrol agent that a man who had been deported 3 times after being arrested each time with a DUI had to be admitted because a) he was claiming asylum and b) he had a child with him this time.

This is just WRONG.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hilarious the way Lefties here shut-up whenever you ask them to make some concrete suggestions.

All they know how to do is complain. How is that useful?

It isn't. But perhaps it makes them feel better.

Bunch of complainers. You manufacture an issue and then complain that other people aren’t fixing it for you. Typical MAGA loser. No personal responsibility.

DP. What are YOU personally doing to help these people? Nothing? Didn't think so.

I would support a comprehensive plan to rebuild Central America. Similar to how we helped Colombia.