Cop Suspended After Video Emerges Of Brutal Arrests At Teen Pool Party (In McKinney Texas)

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Anonymous wrote:Didn't this guy get suspended then he resigned. Obviously he did something wrong.

Not necessarily

Necessarily.

http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/local/collin-county/2015/06/09/mckinney-officer-resigns-from-the-force/28760035/

"The actions of Eric Casebolt are indefensible," police Chief Greg Conley told reporters at a news conference late Tuesday afternoon, saying the officer was "out of control during the incident."

Administrative leave is not the same thing as being suspended.

Actually, I believe it is. More importantly, the officer clearly did something wrong and what he did was "indefensible" (despite the efforts of some posters here to defend them).

Administrative leave is paid, suspended is not. "Did something wrong" is a wide open space. I went to the store and the clerk gave me the wrong change, she gave me 10 extra cents. I go to a store and every time I go my friend, the clerk give me the wrong change $10, so we can go to get lunch that day together. Both are wrong, one is clearly more wrong.

So what if the officer did something wrong. Everybody does something wrong in their job. What he did is not all that bad actually, it was not illegal, he won't be sued, he would not have been fired. I suspect he will sue the police department for defaming his name and making it impossible to be a cop and he will get paid out.

Another PP here. You lose ALL credibility with the bolded statement.

I know that some of you either love the police or hate young AA's, but you cannot credibly minimize how this particular officer bungled this incident.

See...here is the thing. He was placed on admin leave and ultimately resigned. But you defenders are missing a HUGE point of all this. We have the video but did any of you stop to think that they the MPD actually talked to the other officers on the scence about the incident? I am a PP whose DH is LEO (althought one poster implies that I am lying about that) and he thinks that other officer's impressions may have led to the action taken and resignatonion. If other officers told command that they thought this guy was over the top, it makes it easier to proceed against him. DH thinks (pure speculation) that the other officers did not back him up - especially about pulling the gun.

My LEO friend said the thing your husband said here, so it may not be that far from the truth.

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I am not the PP. But this is McLean, VA? I am not saying this story is not true, but it seems Susie is crazy. McLean, VA right, not McLean, Kentucky or Mississippi.

Did you ever just think, Susie and Becky are crazy?

Yes, McLean, VA. I don't think Susie or Becky are crazy. I think Susie is the type described by a poster up thread. She doesn't want to fight anyone else's fight. She just wants to have a party for her little girl with no drama. My DD's presence might cause drama. She didn't call me back to say it was a misunderstanding, Becky didn't clarify today with DD or ask her if she was coming. Such is life. My point was that it was no big deal to her to basically dis-invite my DD because she is AA, and some of her pool members might say something. Party went on as planned. That's cool. But now I have to deal with the fall-out. And there already is. I have received 4 emails asking why DD wasn't at the party when we originally said we would be there. But that might be because I was supposed to bring deviled eggs and everyone loves my deviled eggs.

I would tell everyone EXACTLY Why your daughter wasn't at the party. Susie didn't want black people there.

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I am not the PP. But this is McLean, VA? I am not saying this story is not true, but it seems Susie is crazy. McLean, VA right, not McLean, Kentucky or Mississippi.

Did you ever just think, Susie and Becky are crazy?

Yes, McLean, VA. I don't think Susie or Becky are crazy. I think Susie is the type described by a poster up thread. She doesn't want to fight anyone else's fight. She just wants to have a party for her little girl with no drama. My DD's presence might cause drama. She didn't call me back to say it was a misunderstanding, Becky didn't clarify today with DD or ask her if she was coming. Such is life. My point was that it was no big deal to her to basically dis-invite my DD because she is AA, and some of her pool members might say something. Party went on as planned. That's cool. But now I have to deal with the fall-out. And there already is. I have received 4 emails asking why DD wasn't at the party when we originally said we would be there. But that might be because I was supposed to bring deviled eggs and everyone loves my deviled eggs.

Susie is crazy.

You should answer the emails. Susie did not want my daughter there because she is AA. Hit send.

I would do this but I also gives no damns. If you want to be more diplomatic you could hint at this: Susie and I had a conversation and I decided it was best that we skip this event.

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Langley Swim and Tennis community pool. I asked my daughter again, what exactly was said to her. She said "Becky" said to her "Larla, I'm not sure you should come to my party on Wednesday because I wouldn't want happened in Texas to happen to my party. My daughter says "What happened in Texas?" Friend says "You haven't seen the video on the news, it all over the internet?" My daughter then has to remind Becky that she doesn't get to watch TV during the week and has limited access to internet. Becky says " Some Black kids went to a swim party at a community pool and someone called the police because they weren't supposed to be there. I've never seen any other black kids at our community pool, so I'm unsure if you should come. I"ll ask my mom and call you tonight." My daughter then says "OOOKAYYYY, uh maybe I shouldn't come, I'll have to ask my mom too."

I think my daughter left out some things from the conversation but she was still seriously concerned that she shouldn't go to the party. I then showed her the video of what happened. And Becky has not called as of yet to say whether or not she still is invited. If Becky has not called by 7pm, I am calling Becky's mom for clarification.

On behalf of the white people, please apologize to your daughter for being treated so disrespectfully. If I found out my "Becky" behaved so atrociously, I'd sure punish her by canceling her party in it's entirety.

Okay, now I don't know what to do. I work really hard at not being characterized as an "Angry Black Woman", so I really had to hold my tongue.

I called Becky's mom. Said our usual pleasantries, discussed summer plans and all that. I then say "Susie, Larla was talking to Becky about the swim party on Wednesday and she seems to have some concerns." Before I could any further, Susie says "Yeah, I know. Becky doesn't want folks at the pool to be concerned about Larla being there. You know with all this stuff going on in the media, I too am concerned. So I don't know." I was speechless and really didn't know what to say for a moment. I was really trying to measure my response. I say "Susie, I really don't know what to say, is Larla invited or not? Honestly its' not a big deal you know, because we have a pool. Larla and Becky have been good friends for a couple of years and I would hate for this to come between them or us. Larla was really surprised that Becky didn't know if she could come to the party because she is black. Do you think members of your club would cause problems for my daughter? She says flatly "I don't know". I say "Are there any other black members?" She says "I'm sure there are, but we haven't seen any at the pool since I've been a member." I then say "Susie, I appreciate the invite, but Larla won't be coming. You all have a great summer and I hope Becky has a nice party. Thanks." I hung up.

I told my little Larla she would not be going to the party, she was disappointed. I told her she could have a few friends over to our private home pool over the weekend if she wanted. She then asks if she should/could invite Becky? I say I don't know, I'll have to ask DH. My DD likes Becky, I like her too. But I don't if I can allow this friendship to continue because it appears that neither Susie or Becky would stand up for my DD if in their presence some racist $hit went down.

I'm just speechless. These are the really difficult conversations we have to have.

I'm sorry this is happening to your family. I assume your daughter is Becky's only black friend.
Do they go to private school? I have a friend who removed her son from private school because she kept encountering these types of situations.

At some point you have to realize that not everybody wants to fight for your cause. Some people are eager to engage and stand up for the right thing; some are not. I seriously doubt that Becky or her mom harbor any resentment towards you or your family. They just don't want trouble. I get where they're coming from. Most of us just want to live in peace, so we avoid potential trouble. The way things have been playing out, I don't blame them. I agree it's completely unfair, but hey, this is what racial relations have come to in our country. I guess it's a new normal.

Didn't the Germans in Nazi Germany make the same argument? Yes, hyperbole, but...I don't want to live in "peace" if that means that a little girl gets disinvited to a party because of what she looks like. To me, that is not a world I want to live in. I'm white and that is not a pool I would belong to.

I don't know what arguments Germans (all?) made in Nazi Germany. Please enlighten me with references to credible sources.

It's your right to feel whatever it is you feel, as well as choose a pool you want to belong to. It's Becky's right to invite or disinvite people as she sees fit. You make disagree with her choices, but your outrage is completely pointless.

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I am not the PP. But this is McLean, VA? I am not saying this story is not true, but it seems Susie is crazy. McLean, VA right, not McLean, Kentucky or Mississippi.

Did you ever just think, Susie and Becky are crazy?

Yes, McLean, VA. I don't think Susie or Becky are crazy. I think Susie is the type described by a poster up thread. She doesn't want to fight anyone else's fight. She just wants to have a party for her little girl with no drama. My DD's presence might cause drama. She didn't call me back to say it was a misunderstanding, Becky didn't clarify today with DD or ask her if she was coming. Such is life. My point was that it was no big deal to her to basically dis-invite my DD because she is AA, and some of her pool members might say something. Party went on as planned. That's cool. But now I have to deal with the fall-out. And there already is. I have received 4 emails asking why DD wasn't at the party when we originally said we would be there. But that might be because I was supposed to bring deviled eggs and everyone loves my deviled eggs.

I would tell everyone EXACTLY Why your daughter wasn't at the party. Susie didn't want black people there.

I know it seems like I am living on this thread waiting to post and I kinda am, just bored today. I was supposed to be at a pool party.

I don't think "Susie didn't want black people there". My DD was originally invited to the party (and asked to bring deviled eggs) weeks ago. The dis-invite cam after all the Texas stuff. She didn't want to have to stand up to someone, have her DD party ruined if something popped off because of what happened in Texas. Does that make her a racist? Maybe. Do I think she is of poor character? Yes. But I try really hard not to judge people.

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I am not the PP. But this is McLean, VA? I am not saying this story is not true, but it seems Susie is crazy. McLean, VA right, not McLean, Kentucky or Mississippi.

Did you ever just think, Susie and Becky are crazy?

Yes, McLean, VA. I don't think Susie or Becky are crazy. I think Susie is the type described by a poster up thread. She doesn't want to fight anyone else's fight. She just wants to have a party for her little girl with no drama. My DD's presence might cause drama. She didn't call me back to say it was a misunderstanding, Becky didn't clarify today with DD or ask her if she was coming. Such is life. My point was that it was no big deal to her to basically dis-invite my DD because she is AA, and some of her pool members might say something. Party went on as planned. That's cool. But now I have to deal with the fall-out. And there already is. I have received 4 emails asking why DD wasn't at the party when we originally said we would be there. But that might be because I was supposed to bring deviled eggs and everyone loves my deviled eggs.

Susie is crazy.

You should answer the emails. Susie did not want my daughter there because she is AA. Hit send.

I hope PP is a bigger human being than you are. She lives in the community and probably wants to keep her relationships civil. Which means she has to be a bit more diplomatic even if she intends to rock the boat.

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Anonymous wrote:Ugh the quotes are all screwed up...


I am not the PP. But this is McLean, VA? I am not saying this story is not true, but it seems Susie is crazy. McLean, VA right, not McLean, Kentucky or Mississippi.

Did you ever just think, Susie and Becky are crazy?

Yes, McLean, VA. I don't think Susie or Becky are crazy. I think Susie is the type described by a poster up thread. She doesn't want to fight anyone else's fight. She just wants to have a party for her little girl with no drama. My DD's presence might cause drama. She didn't call me back to say it was a misunderstanding, Becky didn't clarify today with DD or ask her if she was coming. Such is life. My point was that it was no big deal to her to basically dis-invite my DD because she is AA, and some of her pool members might say something. Party went on as planned. That's cool. But now I have to deal with the fall-out. And there already is. I have received 4 emails asking why DD wasn't at the party when we originally said we would be there. But that might be because I was supposed to bring deviled eggs and everyone loves my deviled eggs.

Susie is crazy.

You should answer the emails. Susie did not want my daughter there because she is AA. Hit send.

I hope PP is a bigger human being than you are. She lives in the community and probably wants to keep her relationships civil. Which means she has to be a bit more diplomatic even if she intends to rock the boat.

+1 I would be more diplomatic as well. I hate rocking the boat so I would probably say that Becky and Larla had a falling out, but the better answer might be that Susie though Larla wouldn't feel comfortable at their pool.

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I am not the PP. But this is McLean, VA? I am not saying this story is not true, but it seems Susie is crazy. McLean, VA right, not McLean, Kentucky or Mississippi.

Did you ever just think, Susie and Becky are crazy?

Yes, McLean, VA. I don't think Susie or Becky are crazy. I think Susie is the type described by a poster up thread. She doesn't want to fight anyone else's fight. She just wants to have a party for her little girl with no drama. My DD's presence might cause drama. She didn't call me back to say it was a misunderstanding, Becky didn't clarify today with DD or ask her if she was coming. Such is life. My point was that it was no big deal to her to basically dis-invite my DD because she is AA, and some of her pool members might say something. Party went on as planned. That's cool. But now I have to deal with the fall-out. And there already is. I have received 4 emails asking why DD wasn't at the party when we originally said we would be there. But that might be because I was supposed to bring deviled eggs and everyone loves my deviled eggs.

Susie is crazy.

You should answer the emails. Susie did not want my daughter there because she is AA. Hit send.

I hope PP is a bigger human being than you are. She lives in the community and probably wants to keep her relationships civil. Which means she has to be a bit more diplomatic even if she intends to rock the boat.

That is total BS. I am the poster who has a white child not invited to the Hispanic party because he was white. We need to deal with a little bit of "uncomfortableness". I am sorry the parents felt uncomfortable by my presence but our children are not going to think it is okay to avoid everything that is uncomfortable. They need to know it is not okay.

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I am not the PP. But this is McLean, VA? I am not saying this story is not true, but it seems Susie is crazy. McLean, VA right, not McLean, Kentucky or Mississippi.

Did you ever just think, Susie and Becky are crazy?

Yes, McLean, VA. I don't think Susie or Becky are crazy. I think Susie is the type described by a poster up thread. She doesn't want to fight anyone else's fight. She just wants to have a party for her little girl with no drama. My DD's presence might cause drama. She didn't call me back to say it was a misunderstanding, Becky didn't clarify today with DD or ask her if she was coming. Such is life. My point was that it was no big deal to her to basically dis-invite my DD because she is AA, and some of her pool members might say something. Party went on as planned. That's cool. But now I have to deal with the fall-out. And there already is. I have received 4 emails asking why DD wasn't at the party when we originally said we would be there. But that might be because I was supposed to bring deviled eggs and everyone loves my deviled eggs.

I would tell everyone EXACTLY Why your daughter wasn't at the party. Susie didn't want black people there.

I know it seems like I am living on this thread waiting to post and I kinda am, just bored today. I was supposed to be at a pool party.

I don't think "Susie didn't want black people there". My DD was originally invited to the party (and asked to bring deviled eggs) weeks ago. The dis-invite cam after all the Texas stuff. She didn't want to have to stand up to someone, have her DD party ruined if something popped off because of what happened in Texas. Does that make her a racist? Maybe. Do I think she is of poor character? Yes. But I try really hard not to judge people.

I admire your ability to handle this situation with grace. Personally, I would have exploded beyond description (the posters accusing me of being emotional would have seen what the truly emotional side of me looks like). Perhaps you need to address this more directly with Susie and Becky? Let them hear how the situation made you and your daughter feel. Maybe ask Susie directly how she thinks you should respond to those asking about your daughter's absence? She seems to think that her actions were justified, so let her offer an explanation to the others.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ugh the quotes are all screwed up...


I am not the PP. But this is McLean, VA? I am not saying this story is not true, but it seems Susie is crazy. McLean, VA right, not McLean, Kentucky or Mississippi.

Did you ever just think, Susie and Becky are crazy?

Yes, McLean, VA. I don't think Susie or Becky are crazy. I think Susie is the type described by a poster up thread. She doesn't want to fight anyone else's fight. She just wants to have a party for her little girl with no drama. My DD's presence might cause drama. She didn't call me back to say it was a misunderstanding, Becky didn't clarify today with DD or ask her if she was coming. Such is life. My point was that it was no big deal to her to basically dis-invite my DD because she is AA, and some of her pool members might say something. Party went on as planned. That's cool. But now I have to deal with the fall-out. And there already is. I have received 4 emails asking why DD wasn't at the party when we originally said we would be there. But that might be because I was supposed to bring deviled eggs and everyone loves my deviled eggs.

Susie is crazy.

You should answer the emails. Susie did not want my daughter there because she is AA. Hit send.

I hope PP is a bigger human being than you are. She lives in the community and probably wants to keep her relationships civil. Which means she has to be a bit more diplomatic even if she intends to rock the boat.

+1 I would be more diplomatic as well. I hate rocking the boat so I would probably say that Becky and Larla had a falling out, but the better answer might be that Susie though Larla wouldn't feel comfortable at their pool.

That is not being diplomatic, that is lying. Being diplomatic is, I have decided not to discuss it which is a cowards way out.

[Anonymous]

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I am not the PP. But this is McLean, VA? I am not saying this story is not true, but it seems Susie is crazy. McLean, VA right, not McLean, Kentucky or Mississippi.

Did you ever just think, Susie and Becky are crazy?

Yes, McLean, VA. I don't think Susie or Becky are crazy. I think Susie is the type described by a poster up thread. She doesn't want to fight anyone else's fight. She just wants to have a party for her little girl with no drama. My DD's presence might cause drama. She didn't call me back to say it was a misunderstanding, Becky didn't clarify today with DD or ask her if she was coming. Such is life. My point was that it was no big deal to her to basically dis-invite my DD because she is AA, and some of her pool members might say something. Party went on as planned. That's cool. But now I have to deal with the fall-out. And there already is. I have received 4 emails asking why DD wasn't at the party when we originally said we would be there. But that might be because I was supposed to bring deviled eggs and everyone loves my deviled eggs.

Susie is crazy.

You should answer the emails. Susie did not want my daughter there because she is AA. Hit send.

I would do this but I also gives no damns. If you want to be more diplomatic you could hint at this: Susie and I had a conversation and I decided it was best that we skip this event.

Yup. My email would read "Larla did not attend Beck'y party because, based on the events in Texas, Susie was very concerned and was not sure whether the members of her pool would treat Larla appropriately as she would be the only AA at the party. Once Susie implied that she might uncomfortable, we thought it best to keep Larla home as not to be a distraction to Becky's party."

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I am not the PP. But this is McLean, VA? I am not saying this story is not true, but it seems Susie is crazy. McLean, VA right, not McLean, Kentucky or Mississippi.

Did you ever just think, Susie and Becky are crazy?

Yes, McLean, VA. I don't think Susie or Becky are crazy. I think Susie is the type described by a poster up thread. She doesn't want to fight anyone else's fight. She just wants to have a party for her little girl with no drama. My DD's presence might cause drama. She didn't call me back to say it was a misunderstanding, Becky didn't clarify today with DD or ask her if she was coming. Such is life. My point was that it was no big deal to her to basically dis-invite my DD because she is AA, and some of her pool members might say something. Party went on as planned. That's cool. But now I have to deal with the fall-out. And there already is. I have received 4 emails asking why DD wasn't at the party when we originally said we would be there. But that might be because I was supposed to bring deviled eggs and everyone loves my deviled eggs.

Susie is crazy.

You should answer the emails. Susie did not want my daughter there because she is AA. Hit send.

I hope PP is a bigger human being than you are. She lives in the community and probably wants to keep her relationships civil. Which means she has to be a bit more diplomatic even if she intends to rock the boat.

+1 I would be more diplomatic as well. I hate rocking the boat so I would probably say that Becky and Larla had a falling out, but the better answer might be that Susie though Larla wouldn't feel comfortable at their pool.

I get the diplomatic part but no way in heck would I lie on my kid to protect Susie.

[Anonymous]

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jsteele wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Ugh the quotes are all screwed up...


I am not the PP. But this is McLean, VA? I am not saying this story is not true, but it seems Susie is crazy. McLean, VA right, not McLean, Kentucky or Mississippi.

Did you ever just think, Susie and Becky are crazy?

Yes, McLean, VA. I don't think Susie or Becky are crazy. I think Susie is the type described by a poster up thread. She doesn't want to fight anyone else's fight. She just wants to have a party for her little girl with no drama. My DD's presence might cause drama. She didn't call me back to say it was a misunderstanding, Becky didn't clarify today with DD or ask her if she was coming. Such is life. My point was that it was no big deal to her to basically dis-invite my DD because she is AA, and some of her pool members might say something. Party went on as planned. That's cool. But now I have to deal with the fall-out. And there already is. I have received 4 emails asking why DD wasn't at the party when we originally said we would be there. But that might be because I was supposed to bring deviled eggs and everyone loves my deviled eggs.

I would tell everyone EXACTLY Why your daughter wasn't at the party. Susie didn't want black people there.

I know it seems like I am living on this thread waiting to post and I kinda am, just bored today. I was supposed to be at a pool party.

I don't think "Susie didn't want black people there". My DD was originally invited to the party (and asked to bring deviled eggs) weeks ago. The dis-invite cam after all the Texas stuff. She didn't want to have to stand up to someone, have her DD party ruined if something popped off because of what happened in Texas. Does that make her a racist? Maybe. Do I think she is of poor character? Yes. But I try really hard not to judge people.

I admire your ability to handle this situation with grace. Personally, I would have exploded beyond description (the posters accusing me of being emotional would have seen what the truly emotional side of me looks like). Perhaps you need to address this more directly with Susie and Becky? Let them hear how the situation made you and your daughter feel. Maybe ask Susie directly how she thinks you should respond to those asking about your daughter's absence? She seems to think that her actions were justified, so let her offer an explanation to the others.


That mother had every right to decide who she wants or does not want at her kids pool party. Rude? Yes-but still within her rights. Sadly, we are going to see more petty things like this given the severe racial tensions and fears that are plaguing our society!

Well to be honest, if a parent of a child who goes to school with my child, they are friends, and that family has dined in my home more than once (i.e., the families KNOW each other well), I would be furious if that family disinvited my daughter because of something that happended thousands of miles away. It is their right - sure. But I would make sure that everyone who asked KNEW how it went down. And frankly, if White people are willing to treat the AA's THEY KNOW WELL shabbily because of some shit that happened in Texas, that is BEYOND petty!

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I am not the PP. But this is McLean, VA? I am not saying this story is not true, but it seems Susie is crazy. McLean, VA right, not McLean, Kentucky or Mississippi.

Did you ever just think, Susie and Becky are crazy?

Yes, McLean, VA. I don't think Susie or Becky are crazy. I think Susie is the type described by a poster up thread. She doesn't want to fight anyone else's fight. She just wants to have a party for her little girl with no drama. My DD's presence might cause drama. She didn't call me back to say it was a misunderstanding, Becky didn't clarify today with DD or ask her if she was coming. Such is life. My point was that it was no big deal to her to basically dis-invite my DD because she is AA, and some of her pool members might say something. Party went on as planned. That's cool. But now I have to deal with the fall-out. And there already is. I have received 4 emails asking why DD wasn't at the party when we originally said we would be there. But that might be because I was supposed to bring deviled eggs and everyone loves my deviled eggs.

Susie is crazy.

You should answer the emails. Susie did not want my daughter there because she is AA. Hit send.

I hope PP is a bigger human being than you are. She lives in the community and probably wants to keep her relationships civil. Which means she has to be a bit more diplomatic even if she intends to rock the boat.

+1 I would be more diplomatic as well. I hate rocking the boat so I would probably say that Becky and Larla had a falling out, but the better answer might be that Susie though Larla wouldn't feel comfortable at their pool.

I get the diplomatic part but no way in heck would I lie on my kid to protect Susie.

You're right. I hate confrontation which is why that was my initial response. Knowing people like Susie, I would also be concerned that she would turn it around and say that it was Larla's mother who called and suggested not going to the party.

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Anonymous wrote:So if your child had a friend who was a minority, you would not invite that child to a party because there is "potential" trouble inviting that kid to a private pool? See...here is the issue. I do not see what trouble could arise other than some busybody making a comment. Which, if this is my child's friend, I will stand up and respond to. I do not care what color they are. What kind of example are you setting for your child? Keep quiet if one of your friends is treated unjustly? You may be able to live in peace, but your child is the one who is going to have to face her friend everyday in school. And these are just children! No way I would put my own child or her friend through that. Belonging to "the club" is just not that important to me (and I DO belong to a private pool that, thankfully, has a number of AA families).

This is where we part. I don't have a private pool. I don't belong to a private club. I live among many black people, not 'a number of AA families'. Where I stand, it's more important to keep your nose clean and avoid any blemish on your personal record the best way you can. We, the great unwashed, have to keep it real. We don't have lawyers on retainer to deal with potential civil suits from angry moms of allegedly mistreated kids.

I oversee a very diverse group of people at work. Racial conflict is not common, but it surfaces once in a while. Not once have I heard a substantiated claim from a black employee who complained about 'racism'. I have to deal with the fallout, because it's my job. But I want to spare my kid this insanity. Go ahead, judge and label me all you want; it is irrelevant to me. Because my child is a white male, it doesn't matter what he does or doesn't do. When push comes to shove, he will be deemed the root of all evil by default. I have to teach my child to stay away for his own sake. I have seen too many lives practically ruined over false allegations. My child deserves better.