Cop Suspended After Video Emerges Of Brutal Arrests At Teen Pool Party (In McKinney Texas)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Another guy was fired for making a pretty innocuous statement! He was a school principal in Miami-said something about the cop did no wrong and feared for his life and that he commends him. What I dont get is why the HOA violating party throwers faced no repurcussions for their actions. And the 20 year old Tatiyana Rhodes who was also in the fist fight, hair pulling melee with the racist white woman (the one suspended from her job)-why is she immune form consequences-she behaved badly too!

Well, the guy was a principal at a school that was damn near all minorities. And there have been other incidents with that principal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Furthermore, the woman who you say started it all? The 'racist' one? Her roommate thinks y'all are ridiculous:

http://www.fox4news.com/story/29285579/roommate-woman-in-the-mckinney-fight-isnt-racist

He said she's not racist, but he didn't say that she didn't make racially condescending remarks to a 19-20 year old and physically assault her. And please tell me that an adult woman who needs a roommate in order to pay for her own living quarters is NOT trying to disparage a young black girl about subsidized housing.

The adult woman pays for herself. Those in subsidized housing are being supported by taxpayers. Please tell me you are not disparaging an adult woman who has limited income and has found a free-market solution to that by bringing in a paying roommate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are any of you all the actual parents of teens? Do you remember being a teen?

In many instances, it's all about defending yourself. Especially, if you feel you are being wrongly accused/singled out/etc. It's not disrespect, it's trying to state your case. As you grow into adulthood, you learn the time and the place to do this but teens are emotional and generally want to immediately defend their character.

I think teens need to learn how to shut the hell up and respect authority. BUT I also think that expecting them to be held to the same consequences as trained, educated professionals is insane! By all witness accounts I read (from blacks and whites), the white woman started it by being insulting and taking the first swing. Teenagers today are not going to tolerate being told to go back to their Section 8 housing when 1. They may very well live in the subdivision, one comparable or nicer 2. The harassers look like trailer trash themselves. Miss Piggy was really having a 50s flashback and had to be reminded the hard way that young blacks today feel empowered.

The kids were being kids. We need adults to be adults. And realize that when we fail to do so there are consequences.

did you mean entitled? Climbing pool fences and tresspassing seem more like entitled behavior to me.

You're being too kind. I think climbing pool fences and trespassing are seem more like assholish behavior-which is exactly what you can expect from groups of teens and college kids.

As used in my context, I think empowered is the right word. Gone are the days when Blacks have to move into the street to let Whites pass on the sidewalk, avert their eyes when they talk to them and place their money on the counter so their hands don't touch. This generation of black children have likely never heard of-much less experience- such things. So when you throw a racially charged insult and then slap them, expect a response.

Miss Piggy deserves to lose her job. You cannot be broadcast all over the news in a videotape fighting a young girl in the middle of the street like a classless hoodlum and expect to be able to continue to represent a business. There's no reason Miss Piggy should've never lowered herself to the age of someone 5 minutes out of HS to engage in such a conflist. There was no reason whatsoever for her to have any interaction whatsoever with that girl-much less to hurl insults because her 2 tons of fun friend was there to back her up.

Matt Walsh makes an important point in his article:

Does that let the officer off the hook? Not necessarily. I can agree that he shouldn’t have cursed at these kids, though it’s hard for me to cry tears over it considering they were just blasting vulgar music. But, still, he should have remained calm. Of course, it’s easy for me to say this, as I’ve never had to almost single handedly control a rowdy mob of 100 teenagers who are predisposed to dislike me because of my profession. Have you?

Whether he had reason to detain the girl is impossible to know at this point. I do know that if she’d walked away as she was told, this could have been avoided. I also know that making her into a martyr only validates her behavior. And if she disobeyed a lawful order, then she brought this completely on herself. To say otherwise is to suggest that she ought to be allowed to do whatever the hell she wants, which is precisely the attitude many of these teens had, and precisely the attitude a mature and grown up society would try to break, not encourage.

The bolded is exactly correct.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are any of you all the actual parents of teens? Do you remember being a teen?

In many instances, it's all about defending yourself. Especially, if you feel you are being wrongly accused/singled out/etc. It's not disrespect, it's trying to state your case. As you grow into adulthood, you learn the time and the place to do this but teens are emotional and generally want to immediately defend their character.

I think teens need to learn how to shut the hell up and respect authority. BUT I also think that expecting them to be held to the same consequences as trained, educated professionals is insane! By all witness accounts I read (from blacks and whites), the white woman started it by being insulting and taking the first swing. Teenagers today are not going to tolerate being told to go back to their Section 8 housing when 1. They may very well live in the subdivision, one comparable or nicer 2. The harassers look like trailer trash themselves. Miss Piggy was really having a 50s flashback and had to be reminded the hard way that young blacks today feel empowered.

The kids were being kids. We need adults to be adults. And realize that when we fail to do so there are consequences.

did you mean entitled? Climbing pool fences and tresspassing seem more like entitled behavior to me.

You're being too kind. I think climbing pool fences and trespassing are seem more like assholish behavior-which is exactly what you can expect from groups of teens and college kids.

As used in my context, I think empowered is the right word. Gone are the days when Blacks have to move into the street to let Whites pass on the sidewalk, avert their eyes when they talk to them and place their money on the counter so their hands don't touch. This generation of black children have likely never heard of-much less experience- such things. So when you throw a racially charged insult and then slap them, expect a response.

Miss Piggy deserves to lose her job. You cannot be broadcast all over the news in a videotape fighting a young girl in the middle of the street like a classless hoodlum and expect to be able to continue to represent a business. There's no reason Miss Piggy should've never lowered herself to the age of someone 5 minutes out of HS to engage in such a conflist. There was no reason whatsoever for her to have any interaction whatsoever with that girl-much less to hurl insults because her 2 tons of fun friend was there to back her up. [/quote]


If Miss Piggy deserves to be fired, then "miss 2 ton titties" needs to loose her job (if she has one) too (or at the very least ban her from promoting tresspassing parties on private property and charge a fee for such)! She is not a child but a 20 year old who invited over 100 kids to a "dimepeice" (peice being peice of ass) cookout with no regard for the HOA rules or her fellow neighbors. I am sure there were some words and insults on both sides which led to the physical altercation, which was stupid on the part of all the ADULTS involved.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are any of you all the actual parents of teens? Do you remember being a teen?

In many instances, it's all about defending yourself. Especially, if you feel you are being wrongly accused/singled out/etc. It's not disrespect, it's trying to state your case. As you grow into adulthood, you learn the time and the place to do this but teens are emotional and generally want to immediately defend their character.

I think teens need to learn how to shut the hell up and respect authority. BUT I also think that expecting them to be held to the same consequences as trained, educated professionals is insane! By all witness accounts I read (from blacks and whites), the white woman started it by being insulting and taking the first swing. Teenagers today are not going to tolerate being told to go back to their Section 8 housing when 1. They may very well live in the subdivision, one comparable or nicer 2. The harassers look like trailer trash themselves. Miss Piggy was really having a 50s flashback and had to be reminded the hard way that young blacks today feel empowered.

The kids were being kids. We need adults to be adults. And realize that when we fail to do so there are consequences.

did you mean entitled? Climbing pool fences and tresspassing seem more like entitled behavior to me.

You're being too kind. I think climbing pool fences and trespassing are seem more like assholish behavior-which is exactly what you can expect from groups of teens and college kids.

As used in my context, I think empowered is the right word. Gone are the days when Blacks have to move into the street to let Whites pass on the sidewalk, avert their eyes when they talk to them and place their money on the counter so their hands don't touch. This generation of black children have likely never heard of-much less experience- such things. So when you throw a racially charged insult and then slap them, expect a response.

Miss Piggy deserves to lose her job. You cannot be broadcast all over the news in a videotape fighting a young girl in the middle of the street like a classless hoodlum and expect to be able to continue to represent a business. There's no reason Miss Piggy should've never lowered herself to the age of someone 5 minutes out of HS to engage in such a conflist. There was no reason whatsoever for her to have any interaction whatsoever with that girl-much less to hurl insults because her 2 tons of fun friend was there to back her up.

Matt Walsh makes an important point in his article:

Does that let the officer off the hook? Not necessarily. I can agree that he shouldn’t have cursed at these kids, though it’s hard for me to cry tears over it considering they were just blasting vulgar music. But, still, he should have remained calm. Of course, it’s easy for me to say this, as I’ve never had to almost single handedly control a rowdy mob of 100 teenagers who are predisposed to dislike me because of my profession. Have you?

Whether he had reason to detain the girl is impossible to know at this point. I do know that if she’d walked away as she was told, this could have been avoided. I also know that making her into a martyr only validates her behavior. And if she disobeyed a lawful order, then she brought this completely on herself. To say otherwise is to suggest that she ought to be allowed to do whatever the hell she wants, which is precisely the attitude many of these teens had, and precisely the attitude a mature and grown up society would try to break, not encourage.

The bolded is exactly correct.

Once you wrote "Matt Walsh", I knew the rest would be garbage

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Furthermore, the woman who you say started it all? The 'racist' one? Her roommate thinks y'all are ridiculous:

http://www.fox4news.com/story/29285579/roommate-woman-in-the-mckinney-fight-isnt-racist

He said she's not racist, but he didn't say that she didn't make racially condescending remarks to a 19-20 year old and physically assault her. And please tell me that an adult woman who needs a roommate in order to pay for her own living quarters is NOT trying to disparage a young black girl about subsidized housing.

The adult woman pays for herself. Those in subsidized housing are being supported by taxpayers. Please tell me you are not disparaging an adult woman who has limited income and has found a free-market solution to that by bringing in a paying roommate.

I'm disparaging an adult who does NOT pay for herself but has her own rent/mortgage subsidized by a roommate having the nerve to insult a government program that subsidizes housing. Clearly she's in no position to pay her own way either. And wasn't it reported that she has children? So why isn't a husband helping to pay her way?

And frankly I'm also disparaging white trash that tries to make them self feel better about their lot in life by trying to insult based on race. It's only trash (and insecure)who do this. The weight, comments thrown, and fighting in the street were dead giveaways for me. Then we get the black roommate. A classy woman she is not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are any of you all the actual parents of teens? Do you remember being a teen?

In many instances, it's all about defending yourself. Especially, if you feel you are being wrongly accused/singled out/etc. It's not disrespect, it's trying to state your case. As you grow into adulthood, you learn the time and the place to do this but teens are emotional and generally want to immediately defend their character.

I think teens need to learn how to shut the hell up and respect authority. BUT I also think that expecting them to be held to the same consequences as trained, educated professionals is insane! By all witness accounts I read (from blacks and whites), the white woman started it by being insulting and taking the first swing. Teenagers today are not going to tolerate being told to go back to their Section 8 housing when 1. They may very well live in the subdivision, one comparable or nicer 2. The harassers look like trailer trash themselves. Miss Piggy was really having a 50s flashback and had to be reminded the hard way that young blacks today feel empowered.

The kids were being kids. We need adults to be adults. And realize that when we fail to do so there are consequences.

did you mean entitled? Climbing pool fences and tresspassing seem more like entitled behavior to me.

You're being too kind. I think climbing pool fences and trespassing are seem more like assholish behavior-which is exactly what you can expect from groups of teens and college kids.

As used in my context, I think empowered is the right word. Gone are the days when Blacks have to move into the street to let Whites pass on the sidewalk, avert their eyes when they talk to them and place their money on the counter so their hands don't touch. This generation of black children have likely never heard of-much less experience- such things. So when you throw a racially charged insult and then slap them, expect a response.

Miss Piggy deserves to lose her job. You cannot be broadcast all over the news in a videotape fighting a young girl in the middle of the street like a classless hoodlum and expect to be able to continue to represent a business. There's no reason Miss Piggy should've never lowered herself to the age of someone 5 minutes out of HS to engage in such a conflist. There was no reason whatsoever for her to have any interaction whatsoever with that girl-much less to hurl insults because her 2 tons of fun friend was there to back her up.

Matt Walsh makes an important point in his article:

Does that let the officer off the hook? Not necessarily. I can agree that he shouldn’t have cursed at these kids, though it’s hard for me to cry tears over it considering they were just blasting vulgar music. But, still, he should have remained calm. Of course, it’s easy for me to say this, as I’ve never had to almost single handedly control a rowdy mob of 100 teenagers who are predisposed to dislike me because of my profession. Have you?

Whether he had reason to detain the girl is impossible to know at this point. I do know that if she’d walked away as she was told, this could have been avoided. I also know that making her into a martyr only validates her behavior. And if she disobeyed a lawful order, then she brought this completely on herself. To say otherwise is to suggest that she ought to be allowed to do whatever the hell she wants, which is precisely the attitude many of these teens had, and precisely the attitude a mature and grown up society would try to break, not encourage.

The bolded is exactly correct.

I think this is where the analysis breaks down. He did not single handedly have to do anything. There were a dozen officers on the scene. He was the ONLY officer that behaved this way. In my mind, that fact plays HUGE in my assesment of him conduct.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are any of you all the actual parents of teens? Do you remember being a teen?

In many instances, it's all about defending yourself. Especially, if you feel you are being wrongly accused/singled out/etc. It's not disrespect, it's trying to state your case. As you grow into adulthood, you learn the time and the place to do this but teens are emotional and generally want to immediately defend their character.

I think teens need to learn how to shut the hell up and respect authority. BUT I also think that expecting them to be held to the same consequences as trained, educated professionals is insane! By all witness accounts I read (from blacks and whites), the white woman started it by being insulting and taking the first swing. Teenagers today are not going to tolerate being told to go back to their Section 8 housing when 1. They may very well live in the subdivision, one comparable or nicer 2. The harassers look like trailer trash themselves. Miss Piggy was really having a 50s flashback and had to be reminded the hard way that young blacks today feel empowered.

The kids were being kids. We need adults to be adults. And realize that when we fail to do so there are consequences.

did you mean entitled? Climbing pool fences and tresspassing seem more like entitled behavior to me.

You're being too kind. I think climbing pool fences and trespassing are seem more like assholish behavior-which is exactly what you can expect from groups of teens and college kids.

As used in my context, I think empowered is the right word. Gone are the days when Blacks have to move into the street to let Whites pass on the sidewalk, avert their eyes when they talk to them and place their money on the counter so their hands don't touch. This generation of black children have likely never heard of-much less experience- such things. So when you throw a racially charged insult and then slap them, expect a response.

Miss Piggy deserves to lose her job. You cannot be broadcast all over the news in a videotape fighting a young girl in the middle of the street like a classless hoodlum and expect to be able to continue to represent a business. There's no reason Miss Piggy should've never lowered herself to the age of someone 5 minutes out of HS to engage in such a conflist. There was no reason whatsoever for her to have any interaction whatsoever with that girl-much less to hurl insults because her 2 tons of fun friend was there to back her up. [/quote]


If Miss Piggy deserves to be fired, then "miss 2 ton titties" needs to loose her job (if she has one) too (or at the very least ban her from promoting tresspassing parties on private property and charge a fee for such)! She is not a child but a 20 year old who invited over 100 kids to a "dimepeice" (peice being peice of ass) cookout with no regard for the HOA rules or her fellow neighbors. I am sure there were some words and insults on both sides which led to the physical altercation, which was stupid on the part of all the ADULTS involved.

Chances are the 20 yo does not have a career. And that's not surprising given her age.

And I completely dismiss aanyone who tries to argue that a 20 year old is on the same level of adulthood as someone with a home, job and 3 kids(?) Two Ton Titties behavior is frustratingly on par with a 20 yo. I know. My friends and I were still in college at that time and partying was all most of us tbought about. Miss Piggy's behavior is not at all appropriate for an adult of her age.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are any of you all the actual parents of teens? Do you remember being a teen?

In many instances, it's all about defending yourself. Especially, if you feel you are being wrongly accused/singled out/etc. It's not disrespect, it's trying to state your case. As you grow into adulthood, you learn the time and the place to do this but teens are emotional and generally want to immediately defend their character.

I think teens need to learn how to shut the hell up and respect authority. BUT I also think that expecting them to be held to the same consequences as trained, educated professionals is insane! By all witness accounts I read (from blacks and whites), the white woman started it by being insulting and taking the first swing. Teenagers today are not going to tolerate being told to go back to their Section 8 housing when 1. They may very well live in the subdivision, one comparable or nicer 2. The harassers look like trailer trash themselves. Miss Piggy was really having a 50s flashback and had to be reminded the hard way that young blacks today feel empowered.

The kids were being kids. We need adults to be adults. And realize that when we fail to do so there are consequences.

did you mean entitled? Climbing pool fences and tresspassing seem more like entitled behavior to me.

You're being too kind. I think climbing pool fences and trespassing are seem more like assholish behavior-which is exactly what you can expect from groups of teens and college kids.

As used in my context, I think empowered is the right word. Gone are the days when Blacks have to move into the street to let Whites pass on the sidewalk, avert their eyes when they talk to them and place their money on the counter so their hands don't touch. This generation of black children have likely never heard of-much less experience- such things. So when you throw a racially charged insult and then slap them, expect a response.

Miss Piggy deserves to lose her job. You cannot be broadcast all over the news in a videotape fighting a young girl in the middle of the street like a classless hoodlum and expect to be able to continue to represent a business. There's no reason Miss Piggy should've never lowered herself to the age of someone 5 minutes out of HS to engage in such a conflist. There was no reason whatsoever for her to have any interaction whatsoever with that girl-much less to hurl insults because her 2 tons of fun friend was there to back her up.

Matt Walsh makes an important point in his article:

Does that let the officer off the hook? Not necessarily. I can agree that he shouldn’t have cursed at these kids, though it’s hard for me to cry tears over it considering they were just blasting vulgar music. But, still, he should have remained calm. Of course, it’s easy for me to say this, as I’ve never had to almost single handedly control a rowdy mob of 100 teenagers who are predisposed to dislike me because of my profession. Have you?

Whether he had reason to detain the girl is impossible to know at this point. I do know that if she’d walked away as she was told, this could have been avoided. I also know that making her into a martyr only validates her behavior. And if she disobeyed a lawful order, then she brought this completely on herself. To say otherwise is to suggest that she ought to be allowed to do whatever the hell she wants, which is precisely the attitude many of these teens had, and precisely the attitude a mature and grown up society would try to break, not encourage.

The bolded is exactly correct.

I think this is where the analysis breaks down. He did not single handedly have to do anything. There were a dozen officers on the scene. He was the ONLY officer that behaved this way. In my mind, that fact plays HUGE in my assesment of him conduct.

EXACTLY! People will play this out as they want to see. No matter that the other professional LEO's who were there displayed radically different behaviour, no matter that the kid taping the whole thing was treated radically different, no matter that he even corroborates the party thrower's account, folks will want to find a way to make sure that the most important transgression was that of the girl that got thrown to the ground. End of story. It's about black kids being bad, if they weren't bad they would have not brought this on themselves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Furthermore, the woman who you say started it all? The 'racist' one? Her roommate thinks y'all are ridiculous:

http://www.fox4news.com/story/29285579/roommate-woman-in-the-mckinney-fight-isnt-racist

He said she's not racist, but he didn't say that she didn't make racially condescending remarks to a 19-20 year old and physically assault her. And please tell me that an adult woman who needs a roommate in order to pay for her own living quarters is NOT trying to disparage a young black girl about subsidized housing.

The adult woman pays for herself. Those in subsidized housing are being supported by taxpayers. Please tell me you are not disparaging an adult woman who has limited income and has found a free-market solution to that by bringing in a paying roommate.

I'm disparaging an adult who does NOT pay for herself but has her own rent/mortgage subsidized by a roommate having the nerve to insult a government program that subsidizes housing. Clearly she's in no position to pay her own way either. And wasn't it reported that she has children? So why isn't a husband helping to pay her way?

And frankly I'm also disparaging white trash that tries to make them self feel better about their lot in life by trying to insult based on race.[b] It's only trash (and insecure)who do this. The weight, comments thrown, and fighting in the street were dead giveaways for me. Then we get the black roommate. A classy woman she is not.

[/b]



Is the black woman involved in the fight considered trash too? She was no lightweight herself (or at least her bitties were not). I get the feeling she had some not too nice words for the woman she was fighting with. Is she considered trash? or is that all just another day in the hood/subdivision?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Furthermore, the woman who you say started it all? The 'racist' one? Her roommate thinks y'all are ridiculous:

http://www.fox4news.com/story/29285579/roommate-woman-in-the-mckinney-fight-isnt-racist

He said she's not racist, but he didn't say that she didn't make racially condescending remarks to a 19-20 year old and physically assault her. And please tell me that an adult woman who needs a roommate in order to pay for her own living quarters is NOT trying to disparage a young black girl about subsidized housing.

The adult woman pays for herself. Those in subsidized housing are being supported by taxpayers. Please tell me you are not disparaging an adult woman who has limited income and has found a free-market solution to that by bringing in a paying roommate.

I'm disparaging an adult who does NOT pay for herself but has her own rent/mortgage subsidized by a roommate having the nerve to insult a government program that subsidizes housing. Clearly she's in no position to pay her own way either. And wasn't it reported that she has children? So why isn't a husband helping to pay her way?

And frankly I'm also disparaging white trash that tries to make them self feel better about their lot in life by trying to insult based on race. It's only trash (and insecure)who do this. The weight, comments thrown, and fighting in the street were dead giveaways for me. Then we get the black roommate. A classy woman she is not.

WhT you clearly do not understand is her roommate entered I to the agreement and the benefit is mutual. Not so for government housing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Furthermore, the woman who you say started it all? The 'racist' one? Her roommate thinks y'all are ridiculous:

http://www.fox4news.com/story/29285579/roommate-woman-in-the-mckinney-fight-isnt-racist

He said she's not racist, but he didn't say that she didn't make racially condescending remarks to a 19-20 year old and physically assault her. And please tell me that an adult woman who needs a roommate in order to pay for her own living quarters is NOT trying to disparage a young black girl about subsidized housing.

The adult woman pays for herself. Those in subsidized housing are being supported by taxpayers. Please tell me you are not disparaging an adult woman who has limited income and has found a free-market solution to that by bringing in a paying roommate.

I'm disparaging an adult who does NOT pay for herself but has her own rent/mortgage subsidized by a roommate having the nerve to insult a government program that subsidizes housing. Clearly she's in no position to pay her own way either. And wasn't it reported that she has children? So why isn't a husband helping to pay her way?

And frankly I'm also disparaging white trash that tries to make them self feel better about their lot in life by trying to insult based on race.[b] It's only trash (and insecure)who do this. The weight, comments thrown, and fighting in the street were dead giveaways for me. Then we get the black roommate. A classy woman she is not.

[/b]


Is the black woman involved in the fight considered trash too? She was no lightweight herself (or at least her bitties were not). I get the feeling she had some not too nice words for the woman she was fighting with. Is she considered trash? or is that all just another day in the hood/subdivision?

Because if you are white, having a black roomate is trashy? you are RACIST!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are any of you all the actual parents of teens? Do you remember being a teen?

In many instances, it's all about defending yourself. Especially, if you feel you are being wrongly accused/singled out/etc. It's not disrespect, it's trying to state your case. As you grow into adulthood, you learn the time and the place to do this but teens are emotional and generally want to immediately defend their character.

I think teens need to learn how to shut the hell up and respect authority. BUT I also think that expecting them to be held to the same consequences as trained, educated professionals is insane! By all witness accounts I read (from blacks and whites), the white woman started it by being insulting and taking the first swing. Teenagers today are not going to tolerate being told to go back to their Section 8 housing when 1. They may very well live in the subdivision, one comparable or nicer 2. The harassers look like trailer trash themselves. Miss Piggy was really having a 50s flashback and had to be reminded the hard way that young blacks today feel empowered.

The kids were being kids. We need adults to be adults. And realize that when we fail to do so there are consequences.

did you mean entitled? Climbing pool fences and tresspassing seem more like entitled behavior to me.

You're being too kind. I think climbing pool fences and trespassing are seem more like assholish behavior-which is exactly what you can expect from groups of teens and college kids.

As used in my context, I think empowered is the right word. Gone are the days when Blacks have to move into the street to let Whites pass on the sidewalk, avert their eyes when they talk to them and place their money on the counter so their hands don't touch. This generation of black children have likely never heard of-much less experience- such things. So when you throw a racially charged insult and then slap them, expect a response.

Miss Piggy deserves to lose her job. You cannot be broadcast all over the news in a videotape fighting a young girl in the middle of the street like a classless hoodlum and expect to be able to continue to represent a business. There's no reason Miss Piggy should've never lowered herself to the age of someone 5 minutes out of HS to engage in such a conflist. There was no reason whatsoever for her to have any interaction whatsoever with that girl-much less to hurl insults because her 2 tons of fun friend was there to back her up.

Matt Walsh makes an important point in his article:

Does that let the officer off the hook? Not necessarily. I can agree that he shouldn’t have cursed at these kids, though it’s hard for me to cry tears over it considering they were just blasting vulgar music. But, still, he should have remained calm. Of course, it’s easy for me to say this, as I’ve never had to almost single handedly control a rowdy mob of 100 teenagers who are predisposed to dislike me because of my profession. Have you?

Whether he had reason to detain the girl is impossible to know at this point. I do know that if she’d walked away as she was told, this could have been avoided. I also know that making her into a martyr only validates her behavior. And if she disobeyed a lawful order, then she brought this completely on herself. To say otherwise is to suggest that she ought to be allowed to do whatever the hell she wants, which is precisely the attitude many of these teens had, and precisely the attitude a mature and grown up society would try to break, not encourage.

The bolded is exactly correct.

I think this is where the analysis breaks down. He did not single handedly have to do anything. There were a dozen officers on the scene. He was the ONLY officer that behaved this way. In my mind, that fact plays HUGE in my assesment of him conduct.

The other officers knew what would happen if they engaged in any way. And they were correct

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Furthermore, the woman who you say started it all? The 'racist' one? Her roommate thinks y'all are ridiculous:

http://www.fox4news.com/story/29285579/roommate-woman-in-the-mckinney-fight-isnt-racist

He said she's not racist, but he didn't say that she didn't make racially condescending remarks to a 19-20 year old and physically assault her. And please tell me that an adult woman who needs a roommate in order to pay for her own living quarters is NOT trying to disparage a young black girl about subsidized housing.

The adult woman pays for herself. Those in subsidized housing are being supported by taxpayers. Please tell me you are not disparaging an adult woman who has limited income and has found a free-market solution to that by bringing in a paying roommate.

I'm disparaging an adult who does NOT pay for herself but has her own rent/mortgage subsidized by a roommate having the nerve to insult a government program that subsidizes housing. Clearly she's in no position to pay her own way either. And wasn't it reported that she has children? So why isn't a husband helping to pay her way?

And frankly I'm also disparaging white trash that tries to make them self feel better about their lot in life by trying to insult based on race.[b] It's only trash (and insecure)who do this. The weight, comments thrown, and fighting in the street were dead giveaways for me. Then we get the black roommate. A classy woman she is not.

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Is the black woman involved in the fight considered trash too? She was no lightweight herself (or at least her bitties were not). I get the feeling she had some not too nice words for the woman she was fighting with. Is she considered trash? or is that all just another day in the hood/subdivision?

Because if you are white, having a black roomate is trashy? you are RACIST!

The G-damn irony is just too much-thanks for a good laugh! What would you consider bi-racial people? according to your logic they do not deserve to exist! Get yourself an edumacation girl!

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Anonymous wrote:Are any of you all the actual parents of teens? Do you remember being a teen?

In many instances, it's all about defending yourself. Especially, if you feel you are being wrongly accused/singled out/etc. It's not disrespect, it's trying to state your case. As you grow into adulthood, you learn the time and the place to do this but teens are emotional and generally want to immediately defend their character.

I think teens need to learn how to shut the hell up and respect authority. BUT I also think that expecting them to be held to the same consequences as trained, educated professionals is insane! By all witness accounts I read (from blacks and whites), the white woman started it by being insulting and taking the first swing. Teenagers today are not going to tolerate being told to go back to their Section 8 housing when 1. They may very well live in the subdivision, one comparable or nicer 2. The harassers look like trailer trash themselves. Miss Piggy was really having a 50s flashback and had to be reminded the hard way that young blacks today feel empowered.

The kids were being kids. We need adults to be adults. And realize that when we fail to do so there are consequences.

did you mean entitled? Climbing pool fences and tresspassing seem more like entitled behavior to me.

You're being too kind. I think climbing pool fences and trespassing are seem more like assholish behavior-which is exactly what you can expect from groups of teens and college kids.

As used in my context, I think empowered is the right word. Gone are the days when Blacks have to move into the street to let Whites pass on the sidewalk, avert their eyes when they talk to them and place their money on the counter so their hands don't touch. This generation of black children have likely never heard of-much less experience- such things. So when you throw a racially charged insult and then slap them, expect a response.

Miss Piggy deserves to lose her job. You cannot be broadcast all over the news in a videotape fighting a young girl in the middle of the street like a classless hoodlum and expect to be able to continue to represent a business. There's no reason Miss Piggy should've never lowered herself to the age of someone 5 minutes out of HS to engage in such a conflist. There was no reason whatsoever for her to have any interaction whatsoever with that girl-much less to hurl insults because her 2 tons of fun friend was there to back her up.

Matt Walsh makes an important point in his article:

Does that let the officer off the hook? Not necessarily. I can agree that he shouldn’t have cursed at these kids, though it’s hard for me to cry tears over it considering they were just blasting vulgar music. But, still, he should have remained calm. Of course, it’s easy for me to say this, as I’ve never had to almost single handedly control a rowdy mob of 100 teenagers who are predisposed to dislike me because of my profession. Have you?

Whether he had reason to detain the girl is impossible to know at this point. I do know that if she’d walked away as she was told, this could have been avoided. I also know that making her into a martyr only validates her behavior. And if she disobeyed a lawful order, then she brought this completely on herself. To say otherwise is to suggest that she ought to be allowed to do whatever the hell she wants, which is precisely the attitude many of these teens had, and precisely the attitude a mature and grown up society would try to break, not encourage.

The bolded is exactly correct.

I think this is where the analysis breaks down. He did not single handedly have to do anything. There were a dozen officers on the scene. He was the ONLY officer that behaved this way. In my mind, that fact plays HUGE in my assesment of him conduct.

EXACTLY! People will play this out as they want to see. No matter that the other professional LEO's who were there displayed radically different behaviour, no matter that the kid taping the whole thing was treated radically different, no matter that he even corroborates the party thrower's account, folks will want to find a way to make sure that the most important transgression was that of the girl that got thrown to the ground. End of story. It's about black kids being bad, if they weren't bad they would have not brought this on themselves.

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