Pelosi’s husband assaulted during breakin

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Anonymous wrote:According to the DA, the intruder approached Mr. Pelosi in his bedroom while he was sleeping. How horrifying!

I'm wondering if the intruder disconnected the alarm system? Otherwise, ours would be incredibly loud once a door was opened or a glass was broken.

Nothing makes much sense. That's why I'd like to see the video released. Unless they have no cameras running?

The man thought he was Jesus, according to his ex.

You are not entitled to see video of the assault. Believe whatever you want to believe. You will anyway.

I don't believe one way or the other. What I'm seeing is a story where the details keep shifting. The audio recording conflicts with the statement. Then they retracted their statement that someone opened the door that clearly wasn't the Pelosi or his attacker, because both had their hands on the same hammer. Pelosi was able to take a bathroom break and use his phone in the bathroom. He could have simply told the police there was an intruder in the house, but he said it was a friend, David. He must have sounded confused because they did a wellness check. At his age, he very well could have been confused, and that's just fine. The important thing is the police got to the scene on time. People are asking to see footage because of all the changes to the details of what happened.

Either way, his neighbors and his Ex-Wife have made it perfectly clear that the man was decidedly mentally unwell. People here want to state that he is mentally well but being MAGA makes him mentally unwell. That''s, well, insane He's mentally unwell because he thinks he's Jesus and talks to angels, etc. The media seems to want to ignore that fact. Inconvenient? I don't know.

Again, what entitles you have access to the video? The police have it. The guys lawyer will have it. The prosecutor will have it. This isn’t a TV show scripted for your entertainment. It looks like the guy broke in, went looking for Nancy. Paul P woke up. The guy didn’t attack right away. He asked where’s Nancy? PP talked to him, was able to call police, tried to keep him calm until the cops got there. The cops coming in may have triggered the guy to go for the hammer and he hit Paul with it. We don’t need to know every detail. We know there was a break-in and an assault and who was the intruder/assailant and who was the victim.

I didn’t say I was entitled. I said it would help clear up what happened. What you state happened is what you are being told happened, but again, that story has changed three times so far at the very least. Imagine this was George Floyd and you just had to take the police version of what happened, that there was no video of any kind. Imagine if we were told as a nation that we were not entitled to see that, that you don’t need to know every detail.

It’s extremely clear what happened. Only MAGA are questioning what happened! You are all so looped into conspiracy theories that you are incapable of seeing reality.

If its so obvious, there is no reason to hide the bodycam/security cam/dashcam footage.

We can also explain how he got to the house.

So if your house gets broken into, you think the public has a right to see the video from inside the house, even before it's submitted for evidence in a trial? We can all just check you out?

If my house getting broken into becomes and the focal point of a nationwide slander attempt with my surrogates claiming its a politically motivated assassination attempt right before an election, and I don't do anything to tamp that down right quick, then yes. There are all sorts of people who could clarify the situation with a word or the stroke of a pen, but do not want that to happen.

So what is the story that you think actually happened? Who's in on it? I don't have a clear picture of the conspiracy here yet. Capitol police don't protect the personal residence 24/7, that has already been stated by authorities, do you think all of those authorities are lying? That all Capitol Police who would know if this was true or not are witholding comment on the truthfulness of that? That would extend to a lot of people, right? Their friends, families, etc? All staying mum because they all have been personally threatened or something? I'm trying to piece together your logic of how this actually is working, can you help me?

Still trying to think this through, do you think that Democrats had this staged? So the hospital where he is, all those doctors and healthcare workers and administrators are all in on it too?

See, when you start to think that what would be 100s, possibly 1000s of people have to be keeping quiet to make some scenario work, I can't support the logic here.

The more simple explanation is that his home wasn't under guard at that time, it got broken into, and he got hurt. Occom's razor is where my logic goes.

Not staged, but misrepresented. I don't think anyone is questioning whether Depape hit Pelosi with the hammer. The question is why?

Some questions that could clarify what is going on without compromising security:
How did he get to the Pelosi house?
Was anyone else in the Pelosi house?
Did he break in or was he invited in?
Was he also in his underwear when the police arrived?
Did he appear confused/high?

You are repeating misinformation and disinformation. The intruder was clothed. No one ever said anything different except for one reporter who got wrong and then corrected it. He broke in. He wasn’t invited. He was delusional. None of those things are in doubt.

The logic then is that the one reporter had it right and there's a giant coverup. However, such thinking requires the logic of "this one reporter's quote means at least 100+ people close to this including numerous law enforcement, media, etc., are deliberately suppressing this information right now" vs simply that one reporter got it wrong.

Believe what you want to believe. However, once again, I always go with Occam's Razor.

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Occam's Razor is never that there is a giant coverup. That's totally ridiculous!

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jsteele wrote:DePape hasn't lived in the Berkeley house for some time. He lives in Richmond, CA.

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Can you post a photo of his home in Richmond, CA?

It sounds like it’s just a normal house in a poor neighborhood. Stucco house with unkempt garden, like lots of houses in Richmond. I live in one of the towns near Berkeley and Richmond. Richmond has some nice areas, but it’s mostly not so great, kind of like Oakland but smaller/less well known.

Why were the FBI in Berkeley?

Don't you think the nearest FBI are going to show up in Berkley ASAP once they get word about an attack in Pelosi's home?

Not if he lived in Richmond.

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Yes, it was politically motivated. From the FBI's charging document, Republican/rightwing talking points and messaging in bold:

In a Mirandized and recorded interview of DEPAPE by San Francisco Police Department Officers, DEPAPE provided the following information:

a. DEPAPE stated that he was going to hold Nancy hostage and talk to her. If Nancy were to tell DEPAPE the “truth,” he would let her go, and if she “lied,” he was going to break “her kneecaps.” DEPAPE was certain that Nancy would not have told the “truth.” In the course of the interview, DEPAPE articulated he viewed Nancy as the “leader of the pack” of lies told by the Democratic Party. DEPAPE also later explained that by breaking Nancy’s kneecaps, she would then have to be wheeled into Congress, which would show other Members of Congress there were consequences to actions. DEPAPE also explained generally that he wanted to use Nancy to lure another individual to DEPAPE.

b. DEPAPE stated that he broke into the house through a glass door, which was a difficult task that required the use of a hammer. DEPAPE stated that Pelosi was in bed and appeared surprised by DEPAPE. DEPAPE told Pelosi to wake up. DEPAPE told Pelosi that he was looking for Nancy. Pelosi responded that she was not present. Pelosi asked how they could resolve the situation, and what DEPAPE wanted to do. DEPAPE stated he wanted to tie Pelosi up so that DEPAPE could go to sleep as he was tired from having had to carry a backpack to the Pelosi residence. Around this time, according to DEPAPE, DEPAPE started taking out twist ties from his pocket so that he could restrain Pelosi. Pelosi moved towards another part of the house, but DEPAPE stopped him and together they went back into the bedroom.

c. While talking with each other, Pelosi went into a bathroom, where Pelosi grabbed a phone to call 9-1-1. DEPAPE stated he felt like Pelosi’s actions compelled him to respond.

d. DEPAPE remembered thinking that there was no way the police were going to forget about the phone call. DEPAPE explained that he did not leave after Pelosi’s call to 9-1-1 because, much like the American founding fathers with the British, he was fighting against tyranny without the option of surrender. DEPAPE reiterated this sentiment elsewhere in the interview.

e. DEPAPE stated that they went downstairs to the front door. The police arrived and knocked on the door, and Pelosi ran over and opened it. Pelosi grabbed onto DEPAPE’s hammer, which was in DEPAPE’s hand. At this point in the interview, DEPAPE repeated that DEPAPE did not plan to surrender and that he would go “through” Pelosi.

f. DEPAPE stated that he pulled the hammer away from Pelosi and swung the hammer towards Pelosi. DEPAPE explained that Pelosi’s actions resulted in Pelosi “taking the punishment instead."

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Anonymous wrote:Occam's Razor is never that there is a giant coverup. That's totally ridiculous!

Which is the PP's point exactly. Maybe re-read it.

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jsteele wrote:DePape hasn't lived in the Berkeley house for some time. He lives in Richmond, CA.

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Can you post a photo of his home in Richmond, CA?

It sounds like it’s just a normal house in a poor neighborhood. Stucco house with unkempt garden, like lots of houses in Richmond. I live in one of the towns near Berkeley and Richmond. Richmond has some nice areas, but it’s mostly not so great, kind of like Oakland but smaller/less well known.

Why were the FBI in Berkeley?

Don't you think the nearest FBI are going to show up in Berkley ASAP once they get word about an attack in Pelosi's home?

Not if he lived in Richmond.

They were probably interviewing his last known partner/wife. When you try to kidnap a federal official, the FBI tends to go back through your history of family and acquaintances.

No big surprise.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, it was politically motivated. From the FBI's charging document, Republican/rightwing talking points and messaging in bold:

In a Mirandized and recorded interview of DEPAPE by San Francisco Police Department Officers, DEPAPE provided the following information:

a. DEPAPE stated that he was going to hold Nancy hostage and talk to her. If Nancy were to tell DEPAPE the “truth,” he would let her go, and if she “lied,” he was going to break “her kneecaps.” DEPAPE was certain that Nancy would not have told the “truth.” In the course of the interview, DEPAPE articulated he viewed Nancy as the “leader of the pack” of lies told by the Democratic Party. DEPAPE also later explained that by breaking Nancy’s kneecaps, she would then have to be wheeled into Congress, which would show other Members of Congress there were consequences to actions. DEPAPE also explained generally that he wanted to use Nancy to lure another individual to DEPAPE.

b. DEPAPE stated that he broke into the house through a glass door, which was a difficult task that required the use of a hammer. DEPAPE stated that Pelosi was in bed and appeared surprised by DEPAPE. DEPAPE told Pelosi to wake up. DEPAPE told Pelosi that he was looking for Nancy. Pelosi responded that she was not present. Pelosi asked how they could resolve the situation, and what DEPAPE wanted to do. DEPAPE stated he wanted to tie Pelosi up so that DEPAPE could go to sleep as he was tired from having had to carry a backpack to the Pelosi residence. Around this time, according to DEPAPE, DEPAPE started taking out twist ties from his pocket so that he could restrain Pelosi. Pelosi moved towards another part of the house, but DEPAPE stopped him and together they went back into the bedroom.

c. While talking with each other, Pelosi went into a bathroom, where Pelosi grabbed a phone to call 9-1-1. DEPAPE stated he felt like Pelosi’s actions compelled him to respond.

d. DEPAPE remembered thinking that there was no way the police were going to forget about the phone call. DEPAPE explained that he did not leave after Pelosi’s call to 9-1-1 because, much like the American founding fathers with the British, he was fighting against tyranny without the option of surrender. DEPAPE reiterated this sentiment elsewhere in the interview.

e. DEPAPE stated that they went downstairs to the front door. The police arrived and knocked on the door, and Pelosi ran over and opened it. Pelosi grabbed onto DEPAPE’s hammer, which was in DEPAPE’s hand. At this point in the interview, DEPAPE repeated that DEPAPE did not plan to surrender and that he would go “through” Pelosi.

f. DEPAPE stated that he pulled the hammer away from Pelosi and swung the hammer towards Pelosi. DEPAPE explained that Pelosi’s actions resulted in Pelosi “taking the punishment instead."

Let the MAGA-splaining begin in 3.....2.....1.....

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jsteele wrote:DePape hasn't lived in the Berkeley house for some time. He lives in Richmond, CA.

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Can you post a photo of his home in Richmond, CA?

It sounds like it’s just a normal house in a poor neighborhood. Stucco house with unkempt garden, like lots of houses in Richmond. I live in one of the towns near Berkeley and Richmond. Richmond has some nice areas, but it’s mostly not so great, kind of like Oakland but smaller/less well known.

Why were the FBI in Berkeley?

Don't you think the nearest FBI are going to show up in Berkley ASAP once they get word about an attack in Pelosi's home?

Not if he lived in Richmond.

It doesn't matter where he lived, what does that have to do with anything? The closest FBI will show up anywhere a major government official is attacked. If FBI did NOT show up, that would r highly concerning, unusual. It is expected that the closest FBI showed up

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, it was politically motivated. From the FBI's charging document, Republican/rightwing talking points and messaging in bold:

In a Mirandized and recorded interview of DEPAPE by San Francisco Police Department Officers, DEPAPE provided the following information:

a. DEPAPE stated that he was going to hold Nancy hostage and talk to her. If Nancy were to tell DEPAPE the “truth,” he would let her go, and if she “lied,” he was going to break “her kneecaps.” DEPAPE was certain that Nancy would not have told the “truth.” In the course of the interview, DEPAPE articulated he viewed Nancy as the “leader of the pack” of lies told by the Democratic Party. DEPAPE also later explained that by breaking Nancy’s kneecaps, she would then have to be wheeled into Congress, which would show other Members of Congress there were consequences to actions. DEPAPE also explained generally that he wanted to use Nancy to lure another individual to DEPAPE.

b. DEPAPE stated that he broke into the house through a glass door, which was a difficult task that required the use of a hammer. DEPAPE stated that Pelosi was in bed and appeared surprised by DEPAPE. DEPAPE told Pelosi to wake up. DEPAPE told Pelosi that he was looking for Nancy. Pelosi responded that she was not present. Pelosi asked how they could resolve the situation, and what DEPAPE wanted to do. DEPAPE stated he wanted to tie Pelosi up so that DEPAPE could go to sleep as he was tired from having had to carry a backpack to the Pelosi residence. Around this time, according to DEPAPE, DEPAPE started taking out twist ties from his pocket so that he could restrain Pelosi. Pelosi moved towards another part of the house, but DEPAPE stopped him and together they went back into the bedroom.

c. While talking with each other, Pelosi went into a bathroom, where Pelosi grabbed a phone to call 9-1-1. DEPAPE stated he felt like Pelosi’s actions compelled him to respond.

d. DEPAPE remembered thinking that there was no way the police were going to forget about the phone call. DEPAPE explained that he did not leave after Pelosi’s call to 9-1-1 because, much like the American founding fathers with the British, he was fighting against tyranny without the option of surrender. DEPAPE reiterated this sentiment elsewhere in the interview.

e. DEPAPE stated that they went downstairs to the front door. The police arrived and knocked on the door, and Pelosi ran over and opened it. Pelosi grabbed onto DEPAPE’s hammer, which was in DEPAPE’s hand. At this point in the interview, DEPAPE repeated that DEPAPE did not plan to surrender and that he would go “through” Pelosi.

f. DEPAPE stated that he pulled the hammer away from Pelosi and swung the hammer towards Pelosi. DEPAPE explained that Pelosi’s actions resulted in Pelosi “taking the punishment instead."

Let the MAGA-splaining begin in 3.....2.....1.....

They are going to say the FBI is "compromised" and "trying to make MAGA look bad."

It's never their fault, you see. MAGA are simultaneously the true patriots and victims.

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Anonymous wrote:According to the DA, the intruder approached Mr. Pelosi in his bedroom while he was sleeping. How horrifying!

I'm wondering if the intruder disconnected the alarm system? Otherwise, ours would be incredibly loud once a door was opened or a glass was broken.

Nothing makes much sense. That's why I'd like to see the video released. Unless they have no cameras running?

The man thought he was Jesus, according to his ex.

You are not entitled to see video of the assault. Believe whatever you want to believe. You will anyway.

I don't believe one way or the other. What I'm seeing is a story where the details keep shifting. The audio recording conflicts with the statement. Then they retracted their statement that someone opened the door that clearly wasn't the Pelosi or his attacker, because both had their hands on the same hammer. Pelosi was able to take a bathroom break and use his phone in the bathroom. He could have simply told the police there was an intruder in the house, but he said it was a friend, David. He must have sounded confused because they did a wellness check. At his age, he very well could have been confused, and that's just fine. The important thing is the police got to the scene on time. People are asking to see footage because of all the changes to the details of what happened.

Either way, his neighbors and his Ex-Wife have made it perfectly clear that the man was decidedly mentally unwell. People here want to state that he is mentally well but being MAGA makes him mentally unwell. That''s, well, insane He's mentally unwell because he thinks he's Jesus and talks to angels, etc. The media seems to want to ignore that fact. Inconvenient? I don't know.

Again, what entitles you have access to the video? The police have it. The guys lawyer will have it. The prosecutor will have it. This isn’t a TV show scripted for your entertainment. It looks like the guy broke in, went looking for Nancy. Paul P woke up. The guy didn’t attack right away. He asked where’s Nancy? PP talked to him, was able to call police, tried to keep him calm until the cops got there. The cops coming in may have triggered the guy to go for the hammer and he hit Paul with it. We don’t need to know every detail. We know there was a break-in and an assault and who was the intruder/assailant and who was the victim.

I didn’t say I was entitled. I said it would help clear up what happened. What you state happened is what you are being told happened, but again, that story has changed three times so far at the very least. Imagine this was George Floyd and you just had to take the police version of what happened, that there was no video of any kind. Imagine if we were told as a nation that we were not entitled to see that, that you don’t need to know every detail.

It’s extremely clear what happened. Only MAGA are questioning what happened! You are all so looped into conspiracy theories that you are incapable of seeing reality.

If its so obvious, there is no reason to hide the bodycam/security cam/dashcam footage.

We can also explain how he got to the house.

So if your house gets broken into, you think the public has a right to see the video from inside the house, even before it's submitted for evidence in a trial? We can all just check you out?

If my house getting broken into becomes and the focal point of a nationwide slander attempt with my surrogates claiming its a politically motivated assassination attempt right before an election, and I don't do anything to tamp that down right quick, then yes. There are all sorts of people who could clarify the situation with a word or the stroke of a pen, but do not want that to happen.

So what is the story that you think actually happened? Who's in on it? I don't have a clear picture of the conspiracy here yet. Capitol police don't protect the personal residence 24/7, that has already been stated by authorities, do you think all of those authorities are lying? That all Capitol Police who would know if this was true or not are witholding comment on the truthfulness of that? That would extend to a lot of people, right? Their friends, families, etc? All staying mum because they all have been personally threatened or something? I'm trying to piece together your logic of how this actually is working, can you help me?

Still trying to think this through, do you think that Democrats had this staged? So the hospital where he is, all those doctors and healthcare workers and administrators are all in on it too?

See, when you start to think that what would be 100s, possibly 1000s of people have to be keeping quiet to make some scenario work, I can't support the logic here.

The more simple explanation is that his home wasn't under guard at that time, it got broken into, and he got hurt. Occom's razor is where my logic goes.

Not staged, but misrepresented. I don't think anyone is questioning whether Depape hit Pelosi with the hammer. The question is why?

Some questions that could clarify what is going on without compromising security:
How did he get to the Pelosi house?
Was anyone else in the Pelosi house?
Did he break in or was he invited in?
Was he also in his underwear when the police arrived?
Did he appear confused/high?

Read his statement and ask yourself why you are such an insufferable a$$hole.

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Anonymous wrote:DOJ has charged Depape with 2 federal crimes - Attempted Kidnapping of Federal Official and Assault on a Family Member of a Federal official

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/man-charged-assault-and-attempted-kidnapping-following-breaking-and-entering-pelosi-residence

Complaint is here, and it should answer most of your questions as Depape apparently declined counsel and told his story

https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1548106/download

Thank you for posting the actual complaint, PP, so that we can read what it says ourselves. Hopefully this legal record will end any speculation that "there's more to the story" or that it was a gay hook-up gone bad or that the attack was an example of the high crime rates in a blue city or whatever other disgusting Republican spin I have read on this forum and elsewhere.

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Unfortunately for America and the world, Republican liars and gaslighters never feel any shame when it’s exposed just how f*cked up they are.

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I’ll wait to see DaPape’s own testimony from his own mouth before I decide what this actually was.

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Anonymous wrote:The jokes are sick. We will never really know what happened though. Too much squabbling is going on. The only thing we can say with a high degree of certainty is that Paul Pelosi was attacked with a hammer by dePapa in front of the police. The rest has become a blurred mess.

No, it’s not a mess. This is straight out of Putin’s playbook. (Yes. Read Peter Pomerantsev’s “nothing is true and everything is possible”). It’s a straightforward story, but then someone starts tweeting out rumors and speculation, people make things up, and eventually everyone throws up their hands saying, “it’s a blurred mess” and I don’t know what to believe.

It’s incredible. The spouse of the person second in line to the U.S. presidency was attacked in his home by someone wielding a hammer. That person was looking for the speaker of the house.

Going down rabbit holes of degrees of mental health and where the attacker lived is beside the point. The attacker obviously felt he had a reason to do harm to the speaker of the house and her husband got in the way.

PP here — it is a mess. My family was attacked and farm occupied by Nazis and Russians, on the other side of my family one uncle was kidnapped by Stahlin and a cousin barely made it out alive as part of the military run my a government in exile. It’s an f*in’ mess like that.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ll wait to see DaPape’s own testimony from his own mouth before I decide what this actually was.

You are delusional. I pity your family if you have one.