Pelosi’s husband assaulted during breakin

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Anonymous wrote:According to the DA, the intruder approached Mr. Pelosi in his bedroom while he was sleeping. How horrifying!


I'm wondering if the intruder disconnected the alarm system? Otherwise, ours would be incredibly loud once a door was opened or a glass was broken.


Nothing makes much sense. That's why I'd like to see the video released. Unless they have no cameras running?

The man thought he was Jesus, according to his ex.


You are not entitled to see video of the assault. Believe whatever you want to believe. You will anyway.


I don't believe one way or the other. What I'm seeing is a story where the details keep shifting. The audio recording conflicts with the statement. Then they retracted their statement that someone opened the door that clearly wasn't the Pelosi or his attacker, because both had their hands on the same hammer. Pelosi was able to take a bathroom break and use his phone in the bathroom. He could have simply told the police there was an intruder in the house, but he said it was a friend, David. He must have sounded confused because they did a wellness check. At his age, he very well could have been confused, and that's just fine. The important thing is the police got to the scene on time. People are asking to see footage because of all the changes to the details of what happened.

Either way, his neighbors and his Ex-Wife have made it perfectly clear that the man was decidedly mentally unwell. People here want to state that he is mentally well but being MAGA makes him mentally unwell. That''s, well, insane He's mentally unwell because he thinks he's Jesus and talks to angels, etc. The media seems to want to ignore that fact. Inconvenient? I don't know.


Again, what entitles you have access to the video? The police have it. The guys lawyer will have it. The prosecutor will have it. This isn’t a TV show scripted for your entertainment. It looks like the guy broke in, went looking for Nancy. Paul P woke up. The guy didn’t attack right away. He asked where’s Nancy? PP talked to him, was able to call police, tried to keep him calm until the cops got there. The cops coming in may have triggered the guy to go for the hammer and he hit Paul with it. We don’t need to know every detail. We know there was a break-in and an assault and who was the intruder/assailant and who was the victim.


I didn’t say I was entitled. I said it would help clear up what happened. What you state happened is what you are being told happened, but again, that story has changed three times so far at the very least. Imagine this was George Floyd and you just had to take the police version of what happened, that there was no video of any kind. Imagine if we were told as a nation that we were not entitled to see that, that you don’t need to know every detail.



It’s extremely clear what happened. Only MAGA are questioning what happened! You are all so looped into conspiracy theories that you are incapable of seeing reality.


If its so obvious, there is no reason to hide the bodycam/security cam/dashcam footage.

We can also explain how he got to the house.


So if your house gets broken into, you think the public has a right to see the video from inside the house, even before it's submitted for evidence in a trial? We can all just check you out?


If my house getting broken into becomes and the focal point of a nationwide slander attempt with my surrogates claiming its a politically motivated assassination attempt right before an election, and I don't do anything to tamp that down right quick, then yes. There are all sorts of people who could clarify the situation with a word or the stroke of a pen, but do not want that to happen.


So what is the story that you think actually happened? Who's in on it? I don't have a clear picture of the conspiracy here yet. Capitol police don't protect the personal residence 24/7, that has already been stated by authorities, do you think all of those authorities are lying? That all Capitol Police who would know if this was true or not are witholding comment on the truthfulness of that? That would extend to a lot of people, right? Their friends, families, etc? All staying mum because they all have been personally threatened or something? I'm trying to piece together your logic of how this actually is working, can you help me?


Still trying to think this through, do you think that Democrats had this staged? So the hospital where he is, all those doctors and healthcare workers and administrators are all in on it too?

See, when you start to think that what would be 100s, possibly 1000s of people have to be keeping quiet to make some scenario work, I can't support the logic here.

The more simple explanation is that his home wasn't under guard at that time, it got broken into, and he got hurt. Occom's razor is where my logic goes.
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But, then you have Tom Dixon, GOP running for governor of Michigan, who laughed about the latter, saying: "“The sad thing is that Gretchen will tie your hands, put a gun to your head and ask if you are ready to talk. For someone so worried about getting kidnapped, Gretchen Whitmer sure is good at taking business hostage and holding it for ransom,” Dixon said at one event.

Later that day, in describing a recent appearance by Whitmer, Dixon said, “The look on her face was like, ‘Oh, my gosh, this is happening. I’d rather be kidnapped by the FBI.”"



I think Dixon is pointing out that the FBI was heavily involved in the kidnapping plot, doing the planning and supplies. Without them, there would have been no plot, and just some guys very angry with Whitmer and willing to do violence.

The attack on Paul Pelosi is abhorrent, and there seems to be lots of comments saying the phone call is strange. He cleverly managed to call the police without upsetting the intruder, and without that I suspect Mr. Pelosi might be dead now.
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Anonymous wrote:The jokes are sick. We will never really know what happened though. Too much squabbling is going on. The only thing we can say with a high degree of certainty is that Paul Pelosi was attacked with a hammer by dePapa in front of the police. The rest has become a blurred mess.


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Anonymous wrote:According to the DA, the intruder approached Mr. Pelosi in his bedroom while he was sleeping. How horrifying!


I'm wondering if the intruder disconnected the alarm system? Otherwise, ours would be incredibly loud once a door was opened or a glass was broken.


Nothing makes much sense. That's why I'd like to see the video released. Unless they have no cameras running?

The man thought he was Jesus, according to his ex.


You are not entitled to see video of the assault. Believe whatever you want to believe. You will anyway.


I don't believe one way or the other. What I'm seeing is a story where the details keep shifting. The audio recording conflicts with the statement. Then they retracted their statement that someone opened the door that clearly wasn't the Pelosi or his attacker, because both had their hands on the same hammer. Pelosi was able to take a bathroom break and use his phone in the bathroom. He could have simply told the police there was an intruder in the house, but he said it was a friend, David. He must have sounded confused because they did a wellness check. At his age, he very well could have been confused, and that's just fine. The important thing is the police got to the scene on time. People are asking to see footage because of all the changes to the details of what happened.

Either way, his neighbors and his Ex-Wife have made it perfectly clear that the man was decidedly mentally unwell. People here want to state that he is mentally well but being MAGA makes him mentally unwell. That''s, well, insane He's mentally unwell because he thinks he's Jesus and talks to angels, etc. The media seems to want to ignore that fact. Inconvenient? I don't know.


Again, what entitles you have access to the video? The police have it. The guys lawyer will have it. The prosecutor will have it. This isn’t a TV show scripted for your entertainment. It looks like the guy broke in, went looking for Nancy. Paul P woke up. The guy didn’t attack right away. He asked where’s Nancy? PP talked to him, was able to call police, tried to keep him calm until the cops got there. The cops coming in may have triggered the guy to go for the hammer and he hit Paul with it. We don’t need to know every detail. We know there was a break-in and an assault and who was the intruder/assailant and who was the victim.


I didn’t say I was entitled. I said it would help clear up what happened. What you state happened is what you are being told happened, but again, that story has changed three times so far at the very least. Imagine this was George Floyd and you just had to take the police version of what happened, that there was no video of any kind. Imagine if we were told as a nation that we were not entitled to see that, that you don’t need to know every detail.



It’s extremely clear what happened. Only MAGA are questioning what happened! You are all so looped into conspiracy theories that you are incapable of seeing reality.


If its so obvious, there is no reason to hide the bodycam/security cam/dashcam footage.

We can also explain how he got to the house.


So if your house gets broken into, you think the public has a right to see the video from inside the house, even before it's submitted for evidence in a trial? We can all just check you out?


If my house getting broken into becomes and the focal point of a nationwide slander attempt with my surrogates claiming its a politically motivated assassination attempt right before an election, and I don't do anything to tamp that down right quick, then yes. There are all sorts of people who could clarify the situation with a word or the stroke of a pen, but do not want that to happen.


So what is the story that you think actually happened? Who's in on it? I don't have a clear picture of the conspiracy here yet. Capitol police don't protect the personal residence 24/7, that has already been stated by authorities, do you think all of those authorities are lying? That all Capitol Police who would know if this was true or not are witholding comment on the truthfulness of that? That would extend to a lot of people, right? Their friends, families, etc? All staying mum because they all have been personally threatened or something? I'm trying to piece together your logic of how this actually is working, can you help me?


Still trying to think this through, do you think that Democrats had this staged? So the hospital where he is, all those doctors and healthcare workers and administrators are all in on it too?

See, when you start to think that what would be 100s, possibly 1000s of people have to be keeping quiet to make some scenario work, I can't support the logic here.

The more simple explanation is that his home wasn't under guard at that time, it got broken into, and he got hurt. Occom's razor is where my logic goes.


Not staged, but misrepresented. I don't think anyone is questioning whether Depape hit Pelosi with the hammer. The question is why?

Some questions that could clarify what is going on without compromising security:
How did he get to the Pelosi house?
Was anyone else in the Pelosi house?
Did he break in or was he invited in?
Was he also in his underwear when the police arrived?
Did he appear confused/high?


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Anonymous wrote:Why isn't the right condemning an assassination attempt on the third in line for the White House?


This. End of story.

You have no right or entitlement to know anything else that went on. Period.
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Anonymous wrote:According to the DA, the intruder approached Mr. Pelosi in his bedroom while he was sleeping. How horrifying!


I'm wondering if the intruder disconnected the alarm system? Otherwise, ours would be incredibly loud once a door was opened or a glass was broken.


Nothing makes much sense. That's why I'd like to see the video released. Unless they have no cameras running?

The man thought he was Jesus, according to his ex.


You are not entitled to see video of the assault. Believe whatever you want to believe. You will anyway.


I don't believe one way or the other. What I'm seeing is a story where the details keep shifting. The audio recording conflicts with the statement. Then they retracted their statement that someone opened the door that clearly wasn't the Pelosi or his attacker, because both had their hands on the same hammer. Pelosi was able to take a bathroom break and use his phone in the bathroom. He could have simply told the police there was an intruder in the house, but he said it was a friend, David. He must have sounded confused because they did a wellness check. At his age, he very well could have been confused, and that's just fine. The important thing is the police got to the scene on time. People are asking to see footage because of all the changes to the details of what happened.

Either way, his neighbors and his Ex-Wife have made it perfectly clear that the man was decidedly mentally unwell. People here want to state that he is mentally well but being MAGA makes him mentally unwell. That''s, well, insane He's mentally unwell because he thinks he's Jesus and talks to angels, etc. The media seems to want to ignore that fact. Inconvenient? I don't know.


Again, what entitles you have access to the video? The police have it. The guys lawyer will have it. The prosecutor will have it. This isn’t a TV show scripted for your entertainment. It looks like the guy broke in, went looking for Nancy. Paul P woke up. The guy didn’t attack right away. He asked where’s Nancy? PP talked to him, was able to call police, tried to keep him calm until the cops got there. The cops coming in may have triggered the guy to go for the hammer and he hit Paul with it. We don’t need to know every detail. We know there was a break-in and an assault and who was the intruder/assailant and who was the victim.


I didn’t say I was entitled. I said it would help clear up what happened. What you state happened is what you are being told happened, but again, that story has changed three times so far at the very least. Imagine this was George Floyd and you just had to take the police version of what happened, that there was no video of any kind. Imagine if we were told as a nation that we were not entitled to see that, that you don’t need to know every detail.



It’s extremely clear what happened. Only MAGA are questioning what happened! You are all so looped into conspiracy theories that you are incapable of seeing reality.


If its so obvious, there is no reason to hide the bodycam/security cam/dashcam footage.

We can also explain how he got to the house.


So if your house gets broken into, you think the public has a right to see the video from inside the house, even before it's submitted for evidence in a trial? We can all just check you out?


If my house getting broken into becomes and the focal point of a nationwide slander attempt with my surrogates claiming its a politically motivated assassination attempt right before an election, and I don't do anything to tamp that down right quick, then yes. There are all sorts of people who could clarify the situation with a word or the stroke of a pen, but do not want that to happen.


So what is the story that you think actually happened? Who's in on it? I don't have a clear picture of the conspiracy here yet. Capitol police don't protect the personal residence 24/7, that has already been stated by authorities, do you think all of those authorities are lying? That all Capitol Police who would know if this was true or not are witholding comment on the truthfulness of that? That would extend to a lot of people, right? Their friends, families, etc? All staying mum because they all have been personally threatened or something? I'm trying to piece together your logic of how this actually is working, can you help me?


Still trying to think this through, do you think that Democrats had this staged? So the hospital where he is, all those doctors and healthcare workers and administrators are all in on it too?

See, when you start to think that what would be 100s, possibly 1000s of people have to be keeping quiet to make some scenario work, I can't support the logic here.

The more simple explanation is that his home wasn't under guard at that time, it got broken into, and he got hurt. Occom's razor is where my logic goes.


Not staged, but misrepresented. I don't think anyone is questioning whether Depape hit Pelosi with the hammer. The question is why?

Some questions that could clarify what is going on without compromising security:
How did he get to the Pelosi house?
Was anyone else in the Pelosi house?
Did he break in or was he invited in?
Was he also in his underwear when the police arrived?
Did he appear confused/high?




Sure, but why do those questions need to be answered immediately. Obviously there will be a trial where all of this gets reviewed, I don't see why the family has to be pressured to answer questions immediately just to stave off conspiracy theorists which seems to be the only rationale you're providing. If this was my family, knowing I had a criminal case against the perp, I wouldn't be talking to the press. I'm sure my lawyer would tell me not to anyway, I wouldn't want to do anything to jeopardize the trial.
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Anonymous wrote:According to the DA, the intruder approached Mr. Pelosi in his bedroom while he was sleeping. How horrifying!


I'm wondering if the intruder disconnected the alarm system? Otherwise, ours would be incredibly loud once a door was opened or a glass was broken.


Nothing makes much sense. That's why I'd like to see the video released. Unless they have no cameras running?

The man thought he was Jesus, according to his ex.


You are not entitled to see video of the assault. Believe whatever you want to believe. You will anyway.


I don't believe one way or the other. What I'm seeing is a story where the details keep shifting. The audio recording conflicts with the statement. Then they retracted their statement that someone opened the door that clearly wasn't the Pelosi or his attacker, because both had their hands on the same hammer. Pelosi was able to take a bathroom break and use his phone in the bathroom. He could have simply told the police there was an intruder in the house, but he said it was a friend, David. He must have sounded confused because they did a wellness check. At his age, he very well could have been confused, and that's just fine. The important thing is the police got to the scene on time. People are asking to see footage because of all the changes to the details of what happened.

Either way, his neighbors and his Ex-Wife have made it perfectly clear that the man was decidedly mentally unwell. People here want to state that he is mentally well but being MAGA makes him mentally unwell. That''s, well, insane He's mentally unwell because he thinks he's Jesus and talks to angels, etc. The media seems to want to ignore that fact. Inconvenient? I don't know.


Again, what entitles you have access to the video? The police have it. The guys lawyer will have it. The prosecutor will have it. This isn’t a TV show scripted for your entertainment. It looks like the guy broke in, went looking for Nancy. Paul P woke up. The guy didn’t attack right away. He asked where’s Nancy? PP talked to him, was able to call police, tried to keep him calm until the cops got there. The cops coming in may have triggered the guy to go for the hammer and he hit Paul with it. We don’t need to know every detail. We know there was a break-in and an assault and who was the intruder/assailant and who was the victim.


I didn’t say I was entitled. I said it would help clear up what happened. What you state happened is what you are being told happened, but again, that story has changed three times so far at the very least. Imagine this was George Floyd and you just had to take the police version of what happened, that there was no video of any kind. Imagine if we were told as a nation that we were not entitled to see that, that you don’t need to know every detail.



It’s extremely clear what happened. Only MAGA are questioning what happened! You are all so looped into conspiracy theories that you are incapable of seeing reality.


If its so obvious, there is no reason to hide the bodycam/security cam/dashcam footage.

We can also explain how he got to the house.


So if your house gets broken into, you think the public has a right to see the video from inside the house, even before it's submitted for evidence in a trial? We can all just check you out?


If my house getting broken into becomes and the focal point of a nationwide slander attempt with my surrogates claiming its a politically motivated assassination attempt right before an election, and I don't do anything to tamp that down right quick, then yes. There are all sorts of people who could clarify the situation with a word or the stroke of a pen, but do not want that to happen.


So what is the story that you think actually happened? Who's in on it? I don't have a clear picture of the conspiracy here yet. Capitol police don't protect the personal residence 24/7, that has already been stated by authorities, do you think all of those authorities are lying? That all Capitol Police who would know if this was true or not are witholding comment on the truthfulness of that? That would extend to a lot of people, right? Their friends, families, etc? All staying mum because they all have been personally threatened or something? I'm trying to piece together your logic of how this actually is working, can you help me?


Still trying to think this through, do you think that Democrats had this staged? So the hospital where he is, all those doctors and healthcare workers and administrators are all in on it too?

See, when you start to think that what would be 100s, possibly 1000s of people have to be keeping quiet to make some scenario work, I can't support the logic here.

The more simple explanation is that his home wasn't under guard at that time, it got broken into, and he got hurt. Occom's razor is where my logic goes.


Not staged, but misrepresented. I don't think anyone is questioning whether Depape hit Pelosi with the hammer. The question is why?

Some questions that could clarify what is going on without compromising security:
How did he get to the Pelosi house?
Was anyone else in the Pelosi house?
Did he break in or was he invited in?
Was he also in his underwear when the police arrived?
Did he appear confused/high?




DP, but the history on WHY Depape hit Pelosi with a hammer is already really obvious. What don't you get? He is a mentally ill person who had previously posted about conspiracy theorists online. I.... don't understand what more information you need, or what is confusing to you about rationale/motive/the why of it?
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So I guess conspiracy theorists would have a field day if my own house was broken into, as my DH only sleeps in his boxers. Do other men wear full PJs while sleeping in their homes at 2am?

Logic, people.
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But, then you have Tom Dixon, GOP running for governor of Michigan, who laughed about the latter, saying: "“The sad thing is that Gretchen will tie your hands, put a gun to your head and ask if you are ready to talk. For someone so worried about getting kidnapped, Gretchen Whitmer sure is good at taking business hostage and holding it for ransom,” Dixon said at one event.

Later that day, in describing a recent appearance by Whitmer, Dixon said, “The look on her face was like, ‘Oh, my gosh, this is happening. I’d rather be kidnapped by the FBI.”"



I think Dixon is pointing out that the FBI was heavily involved in the kidnapping plot, doing the planning and supplies. Without them, there would have been no plot, and just some guys very angry with Whitmer and willing to do violence.

The attack on Paul Pelosi is abhorrent, and there seems to be lots of comments saying the phone call is strange. He cleverly managed to call the police without upsetting the intruder, and without that I suspect Mr. Pelosi might be dead now.


Have you ever truly wondered why there are only conspiracy theories and coincidences when it comes to Dems? Have you ever puzzled over why voting machines only malfunctioned in elections that the GOP lost? Have you wondered what all this manufactured doubt and rage does for the GOP leaders?
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jsteele wrote:DePape hasn't lived in the Berkeley house for some time. He lives in Richmond, CA.

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Can you post a photo of his home in Richmond, CA?


It sounds like it’s just a normal house in a poor neighborhood. Stucco house with unkempt garden, like lots of houses in Richmond. I live in one of the towns near Berkeley and Richmond. Richmond has some nice areas, but it’s mostly not so great, kind of like Oakland but smaller/less well known.


Why were the FBI in Berkeley?
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Anonymous wrote:According to the DA, the intruder approached Mr. Pelosi in his bedroom while he was sleeping. How horrifying!


I'm wondering if the intruder disconnected the alarm system? Otherwise, ours would be incredibly loud once a door was opened or a glass was broken.


Nothing makes much sense. That's why I'd like to see the video released. Unless they have no cameras running?

The man thought he was Jesus, according to his ex.


You are not entitled to see video of the assault. Believe whatever you want to believe. You will anyway.


I don't believe one way or the other. What I'm seeing is a story where the details keep shifting. The audio recording conflicts with the statement. Then they retracted their statement that someone opened the door that clearly wasn't the Pelosi or his attacker, because both had their hands on the same hammer. Pelosi was able to take a bathroom break and use his phone in the bathroom. He could have simply told the police there was an intruder in the house, but he said it was a friend, David. He must have sounded confused because they did a wellness check. At his age, he very well could have been confused, and that's just fine. The important thing is the police got to the scene on time. People are asking to see footage because of all the changes to the details of what happened.

Either way, his neighbors and his Ex-Wife have made it perfectly clear that the man was decidedly mentally unwell. People here want to state that he is mentally well but being MAGA makes him mentally unwell. That''s, well, insane He's mentally unwell because he thinks he's Jesus and talks to angels, etc. The media seems to want to ignore that fact. Inconvenient? I don't know.


Again, what entitles you have access to the video? The police have it. The guys lawyer will have it. The prosecutor will have it. This isn’t a TV show scripted for your entertainment. It looks like the guy broke in, went looking for Nancy. Paul P woke up. The guy didn’t attack right away. He asked where’s Nancy? PP talked to him, was able to call police, tried to keep him calm until the cops got there. The cops coming in may have triggered the guy to go for the hammer and he hit Paul with it. We don’t need to know every detail. We know there was a break-in and an assault and who was the intruder/assailant and who was the victim.


I didn’t say I was entitled. I said it would help clear up what happened. What you state happened is what you are being told happened, but again, that story has changed three times so far at the very least. Imagine this was George Floyd and you just had to take the police version of what happened, that there was no video of any kind. Imagine if we were told as a nation that we were not entitled to see that, that you don’t need to know every detail.



It’s extremely clear what happened. Only MAGA are questioning what happened! You are all so looped into conspiracy theories that you are incapable of seeing reality.


If its so obvious, there is no reason to hide the bodycam/security cam/dashcam footage.

We can also explain how he got to the house.


So if your house gets broken into, you think the public has a right to see the video from inside the house, even before it's submitted for evidence in a trial? We can all just check you out?


If my house getting broken into becomes and the focal point of a nationwide slander attempt with my surrogates claiming its a politically motivated assassination attempt right before an election, and I don't do anything to tamp that down right quick, then yes. There are all sorts of people who could clarify the situation with a word or the stroke of a pen, but do not want that to happen.


So what is the story that you think actually happened? Who's in on it? I don't have a clear picture of the conspiracy here yet. Capitol police don't protect the personal residence 24/7, that has already been stated by authorities, do you think all of those authorities are lying? That all Capitol Police who would know if this was true or not are witholding comment on the truthfulness of that? That would extend to a lot of people, right? Their friends, families, etc? All staying mum because they all have been personally threatened or something? I'm trying to piece together your logic of how this actually is working, can you help me?


Still trying to think this through, do you think that Democrats had this staged? So the hospital where he is, all those doctors and healthcare workers and administrators are all in on it too?

See, when you start to think that what would be 100s, possibly 1000s of people have to be keeping quiet to make some scenario work, I can't support the logic here.

The more simple explanation is that his home wasn't under guard at that time, it got broken into, and he got hurt. Occom's razor is where my logic goes.


Not staged, but misrepresented. I don't think anyone is questioning whether Depape hit Pelosi with the hammer. The question is why?

Some questions that could clarify what is going on without compromising security:
How did he get to the Pelosi house?
Was anyone else in the Pelosi house?
Did he break in or was he invited in?
Was he also in his underwear when the police arrived?
Did he appear confused/high?

If it hasn’t been reported that DePape was in his skivvies, why would anyone think he wasn’t dressed and why would the police need to confirm what he was wearing?
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jsteele wrote:DePape hasn't lived in the Berkeley house for some time. He lives in Richmond, CA.

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Can you post a photo of his home in Richmond, CA?


It sounds like it’s just a normal house in a poor neighborhood. Stucco house with unkempt garden, like lots of houses in Richmond. I live in one of the towns near Berkeley and Richmond. Richmond has some nice areas, but it’s mostly not so great, kind of like Oakland but smaller/less well known.


Why were the FBI in Berkeley?


Don't you think the nearest FBI are going to show up in Berkley ASAP once they get word about an attack in Pelosi's home?
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Anonymous wrote:According to the DA, the intruder approached Mr. Pelosi in his bedroom while he was sleeping. How horrifying!


I'm wondering if the intruder disconnected the alarm system? Otherwise, ours would be incredibly loud once a door was opened or a glass was broken.


Nothing makes much sense. That's why I'd like to see the video released. Unless they have no cameras running?

The man thought he was Jesus, according to his ex.


You are not entitled to see video of the assault. Believe whatever you want to believe. You will anyway.


I don't believe one way or the other. What I'm seeing is a story where the details keep shifting. The audio recording conflicts with the statement. Then they retracted their statement that someone opened the door that clearly wasn't the Pelosi or his attacker, because both had their hands on the same hammer. Pelosi was able to take a bathroom break and use his phone in the bathroom. He could have simply told the police there was an intruder in the house, but he said it was a friend, David. He must have sounded confused because they did a wellness check. At his age, he very well could have been confused, and that's just fine. The important thing is the police got to the scene on time. People are asking to see footage because of all the changes to the details of what happened.

Either way, his neighbors and his Ex-Wife have made it perfectly clear that the man was decidedly mentally unwell. People here want to state that he is mentally well but being MAGA makes him mentally unwell. That''s, well, insane He's mentally unwell because he thinks he's Jesus and talks to angels, etc. The media seems to want to ignore that fact. Inconvenient? I don't know.


Again, what entitles you have access to the video? The police have it. The guys lawyer will have it. The prosecutor will have it. This isn’t a TV show scripted for your entertainment. It looks like the guy broke in, went looking for Nancy. Paul P woke up. The guy didn’t attack right away. He asked where’s Nancy? PP talked to him, was able to call police, tried to keep him calm until the cops got there. The cops coming in may have triggered the guy to go for the hammer and he hit Paul with it. We don’t need to know every detail. We know there was a break-in and an assault and who was the intruder/assailant and who was the victim.


I didn’t say I was entitled. I said it would help clear up what happened. What you state happened is what you are being told happened, but again, that story has changed three times so far at the very least. Imagine this was George Floyd and you just had to take the police version of what happened, that there was no video of any kind. Imagine if we were told as a nation that we were not entitled to see that, that you don’t need to know every detail.



It’s extremely clear what happened. Only MAGA are questioning what happened! You are all so looped into conspiracy theories that you are incapable of seeing reality.


If its so obvious, there is no reason to hide the bodycam/security cam/dashcam footage.

We can also explain how he got to the house.


So if your house gets broken into, you think the public has a right to see the video from inside the house, even before it's submitted for evidence in a trial? We can all just check you out?


If my house getting broken into becomes and the focal point of a nationwide slander attempt with my surrogates claiming its a politically motivated assassination attempt right before an election, and I don't do anything to tamp that down right quick, then yes. There are all sorts of people who could clarify the situation with a word or the stroke of a pen, but do not want that to happen.


So what is the story that you think actually happened? Who's in on it? I don't have a clear picture of the conspiracy here yet. Capitol police don't protect the personal residence 24/7, that has already been stated by authorities, do you think all of those authorities are lying? That all Capitol Police who would know if this was true or not are witholding comment on the truthfulness of that? That would extend to a lot of people, right? Their friends, families, etc? All staying mum because they all have been personally threatened or something? I'm trying to piece together your logic of how this actually is working, can you help me?


Still trying to think this through, do you think that Democrats had this staged? So the hospital where he is, all those doctors and healthcare workers and administrators are all in on it too?

See, when you start to think that what would be 100s, possibly 1000s of people have to be keeping quiet to make some scenario work, I can't support the logic here.

The more simple explanation is that his home wasn't under guard at that time, it got broken into, and he got hurt. Occom's razor is where my logic goes.


Not staged, but misrepresented. I don't think anyone is questioning whether Depape hit Pelosi with the hammer. The question is why?

Some questions that could clarify what is going on without compromising security:
How did he get to the Pelosi house?
Was anyone else in the Pelosi house?
Did he break in or was he invited in?
Was he also in his underwear when the police arrived?
Did he appear confused/high?




You are repeating misinformation and disinformation. The intruder was clothed. No one ever said anything different except for one reporter who got wrong and then corrected it. He broke in. He wasn’t invited. He was delusional. None of those things are in doubt.
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jsteele wrote:DePape hasn't lived in the Berkeley house for some time. He lives in Richmond, CA.

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Can you post a photo of his home in Richmond, CA?


It sounds like it’s just a normal house in a poor neighborhood. Stucco house with unkempt garden, like lots of houses in Richmond. I live in one of the towns near Berkeley and Richmond. Richmond has some nice areas, but it’s mostly not so great, kind of like Oakland but smaller/less well known.


Why were the FBI in Berkeley?


Don't you think the nearest FBI are going to show up in Berkley ASAP once they get word about an attack in Pelosi's home?

+1 There’s a huge field office in San Francisco.
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DOJ has charged Depape with 2 federal crimes - Attempted Kidnapping of Federal Official and Assault on a Family Member of a Federal official

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/man-charged-assault-and-attempted-kidnapping-following-breaking-and-entering-pelosi-residence

Complaint is here, and it should answer most of your questions as Depape apparently declined counsel and told his story

https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1548106/download
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