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Anonymous wrote:ECNL-TBD = lying to our membership :/

Ummmm, no. stating "FCV will field teams in ECNL for the 2017/18 season." could be a lie. Stating TBD is pretty much a fact. It is in fact To Be Determined, meaning it is unknown at this time.

It is well known they are no longer going to be in the ECNL.

We are all in the presence of a ECNL board member.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'll take a shot at why FCV parents are considered more "crazy" by other parents, with the caveat that, having a daughter on a very competitive team, and having been on sidelines with the parents of many of the top teams in her age group at some point, almost every top level team has a least a few over-the-top parents on it.

FCV (the club) has had and currently has some very intense coaches. Examples range from lecturing players for a half-hour or more after a loss to stories of poor performing players being punished/embarrassed at practices. FCV also has a reputation of heavily recruiting top players much more than other area clubs. As a result, you end up with a higher concentration of the type of parents that are willing to subject their kids to that kind of coaching and with parents you are more likely to succumb to sales pitches about how FCV is the only club that will enable little Mia to reach the pinnacle of youth soccer. And that type of parent is the same type that is more likely to take losing as a personal affront, to yell abuse at referees, to make comments to opposing players, and to gossip/critique their kid's teammates.

Having said that, there's also gossip that there have been parents that were too much even for FCV and which were asked to find another club for their kid.

Thanks.
I don't view your post as a bash, but just the same sort of impressions that parents share on sidelines about many, many clubs.
It is just interesting to get at least one person's impression given all this discussion of FCV in the context of all the previous negative posts about them.
You have to take every thing with a grain of salt, but good to have at least someone's opinions.
We have been at several clubs with several different children doing their own things, and the culture and parents at each had some consistent differences.
I can see your point about FCV being a magnet for attracting a certain type of parent, but would of course need to gather more information to make my own opinion.
Thanks again.

The problem is, the "opinion" is not from a person affiliated with the club. It is nothing but unsubstantiated rumors. I maintain that no club has a monopoly on crazy or nice parents or kids. Perhaps kids at clubs like FCV, McLean or high achieving teams in clubs like Loudoun have driven kids and the kids and parents are both "confident"? But I can't say that I could paint any particular club as having nice, mean, crazy or any other category of parent or kid. I have seen crazy parents at the Rec level of a variety of sports too. I have seen nice parents and crazy parents at every age and level of sports and in a variety of sports.

Bashing a club's parents is baseless and pointless.

I see no problem with the opinion at all. It is certainly better conversation than the jackass calling people trolls, you want to talk about baseless and pointless. Yes crazy parents are everywhere but crazy coaches make the problem worse. Clubs and coaches can set the tone for sideline behavior, if they are out of control or obsessed with winning it could be a bad situation for kids. If FCV has coaches like that it is good to know.

[Anonymous]

All this talk about FCV and nothing about Foley's departure?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All this talk about FCV and nothing about Foley's departure?

Where is Foley going? Also, are the coaches listed in the document linked above mostly from FCV? From Loudoun? From elsewhere?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Some Boys DA questions here.

Has anyone been to the Arlington DA Talent ID sessions the last couple of weeks? If so, how was the talent level? Could you tell what clubs the players were coming from?

Arlington and Loudoun now have 04, 03 & 02 DAs, but next year will have 06, 05, & 04 DAs. Where are their 03s & 02s going to end up?

Sort of the same thing with McLean. Where are their 04/05 DA players looking since next year they will only have 06 DA?

Yes! A lot of quality players showed up yesterday. Arlington will have a strong DA pool next year!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'll take a shot at why FCV parents are considered more "crazy" by other parents, with the caveat that, having a daughter on a very competitive team, and having been on sidelines with the parents of many of the top teams in her age group at some point, almost every top level team has a least a few over-the-top parents on it.

FCV (the club) has had and currently has some very intense coaches. Examples range from lecturing players for a half-hour or more after a loss to stories of poor performing players being punished/embarrassed at practices. FCV also has a reputation of heavily recruiting top players much more than other area clubs. As a result, you end up with a higher concentration of the type of parents that are willing to subject their kids to that kind of coaching and with parents you are more likely to succumb to sales pitches about how FCV is the only club that will enable little Mia to reach the pinnacle of youth soccer. And that type of parent is the same type that is more likely to take losing as a personal affront, to yell abuse at referees, to make comments to opposing players, and to gossip/critique their kid's teammates.

Having said that, there's also gossip that there have been parents that were too much even for FCV and which were asked to find another club for their kid.

Thanks.
I don't view your post as a bash, but just the same sort of impressions that parents share on sidelines about many, many clubs.
It is just interesting to get at least one person's impression given all this discussion of FCV in the context of all the previous negative posts about them.
You have to take every thing with a grain of salt, but good to have at least someone's opinions.
We have been at several clubs with several different children doing their own things, and the culture and parents at each had some consistent differences.
I can see your point about FCV being a magnet for attracting a certain type of parent, but would of course need to gather more information to make my own opinion.
Thanks again.

The problem is, the "opinion" is not from a person affiliated with the club. It is nothing but unsubstantiated rumors. I maintain that no club has a monopoly on crazy or nice parents or kids. Perhaps kids at clubs like FCV, McLean or high achieving teams in clubs like Loudoun have driven kids and the kids and parents are both "confident"? But I can't say that I could paint any particular club as having nice, mean, crazy or any other category of parent or kid. I have seen crazy parents at the Rec level of a variety of sports too. I have seen nice parents and crazy parents at every age and level of sports and in a variety of sports.

Bashing a club's parents is baseless and pointless.

I see no problem with the opinion at all. It is certainly better conversation than the jackass calling people trolls, you want to talk about baseless and pointless. Yes crazy parents are everywhere but crazy coaches make the problem worse. Clubs and coaches can set the tone for sideline behavior, if they are out of control or obsessed with winning it could be a bad situation for kids. If FCV has coaches like that it is good to know.

They are baseless because there have been no direct testimonials only people repeating rumors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All this talk about FCV and nothing about Foley's departure?

Where is Foley going? Also, are the coaches listed in the document linked above mostly from FCV? From Loudoun? From elsewhere?

They are FCV coaches because it was a FCV Town Hall. The only Loudoun presence was a very brief "we are all in this together" by Mark Ryan and Green was there as well but this was very much a FCV meeting.

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What have Loudoun got themselves into.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What have Loudoun got themselves into. [/quote

Winning ]

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What have Loudoun got themselves into. [/quote

Winning ]

I wonder if the current FCV ECNL players are willing to give up the ECNL showcases with 50+ College coaches in attendance for something that is going to take years to get right.

[Anonymous]

Wasn't Loudoun also advertising a town hall last night? Did anyone go to that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All this talk about FCV and nothing about Foley's departure?

He sold the club to the 2nd man in charge. Nothing else to discuss.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'll take a shot at why FCV parents are considered more "crazy" by other parents, with the caveat that, having a daughter on a very competitive team, and having been on sidelines with the parents of many of the top teams in her age group at some point, almost every top level team has a least a few over-the-top parents on it.

FCV (the club) has had and currently has some very intense coaches. Examples range from lecturing players for a half-hour or more after a loss to stories of poor performing players being punished/embarrassed at practices. FCV also has a reputation of heavily recruiting top players much more than other area clubs. As a result, you end up with a higher concentration of the type of parents that are willing to subject their kids to that kind of coaching and with parents you are more likely to succumb to sales pitches about how FCV is the only club that will enable little Mia to reach the pinnacle of youth soccer. And that type of parent is the same type that is more likely to take losing as a personal affront, to yell abuse at referees, to make comments to opposing players, and to gossip/critique their kid's teammates.

Having said that, there's also gossip that there have been parents that were too much even for FCV and which were asked to find another club for their kid.

Thanks.
I don't view your post as a bash, but just the same sort of impressions that parents share on sidelines about many, many clubs.
It is just interesting to get at least one person's impression given all this discussion of FCV in the context of all the previous negative posts about them.
You have to take every thing with a grain of salt, but good to have at least someone's opinions.
We have been at several clubs with several different children doing their own things, and the culture and parents at each had some consistent differences.
I can see your point about FCV being a magnet for attracting a certain type of parent, but would of course need to gather more information to make my own opinion.
Thanks again.

The problem is, the "opinion" is not from a person affiliated with the club. It is nothing but unsubstantiated rumors. I maintain that no club has a monopoly on crazy or nice parents or kids. Perhaps kids at clubs like FCV, McLean or high achieving teams in clubs like Loudoun have driven kids and the kids and parents are both "confident"? But I can't say that I could paint any particular club as having nice, mean, crazy or any other category of parent or kid. I have seen crazy parents at the Rec level of a variety of sports too. I have seen nice parents and crazy parents at every age and level of sports and in a variety of sports.

Bashing a club's parents is baseless and pointless.

I see no problem with the opinion at all. It is certainly better conversation than the jackass calling people trolls, you want to talk about baseless and pointless. Yes crazy parents are everywhere but crazy coaches make the problem worse. Clubs and coaches can set the tone for sideline behavior, if they are out of control or obsessed with winning it could be a bad situation for kids. If FCV has coaches like that it is good to know.

They are baseless because there have been no direct testimonials only people repeating rumors.

. . . you are going to piss this guy off and he won't apogize this time! lol. no one on this board has direct testimonials . . . sheesh.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ECNL-TBD = lying to our membership :/

Ummmm, no. stating "FCV will field teams in ECNL for the 2017/18 season." could be a lie. Stating TBD is pretty much a fact. It is in fact To Be Determined, meaning it is unknown at this time.

It is well known they are no longer going to be in the ECNL.

Exactly right.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All this talk about FCV and nothing about Foley's departure?

He sold the club to the 2nd man in charge. Nothing else to discuss.

I thought all the clubs around here were not-for-profits. Any others that are not?