Wuhan virus (coronavirus) arrives in the USA

[Anonymous]

I want to know who Patient 0 was, and what the hell they were doing with snakes and bats to get this whole thing started. Were they bitten by a snake that had eaten or been bitten by an infected bat? Did they eat the snake?

China needs to do more to stop this from happening again. Their population is simply too large and puts the world at too much risk, for something that seems relatively preventable by banning human consumption and sale of live wildlife like bats and snakes and dogs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2020-01-24/coronavirus-deaths-surge-in-china-while-europe-finds-first-cases?in_source=amp_trending_now_1

“The new virus has an incubation period of about two weeks before infected people start to show symptoms, which resemble a cold or flu, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.”

So many people could be carriers right now and not even know it. I’m chilled to see how this will play out over the mext couple weeks.

This is old info - latest info from today

Statement from the National Health Commission:
Less severe cases are common;
there are asymptomatic infections;
incubation period ~10 days, range from 1-14 days;
patients are infectious during incubation period.

https://twitter.com/SunKaiyuan/status/1221477620501577732

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What was going on in Wuhan to cause this? I read the CDC website on this virus and it mentioned connection to bats. I wonder how this would get from a bat to a person, perhaps through a bat bite? Are bats an issue in Wuhan, as a public pest?

If China knows these things keep popping up from animal contact, they need to re-examine their protocols about animal handling by humans, as well as pest and rodent control.

They know how it was transmitted. It was from the live meat market. It was from bats, but may have been transmitted from the bats to snakes and then to people. SARS was from bats also.

The snake thing was false information - it had nothing to do with snakes.

The article in the Lancet describing the first several cases shows the first case as having an illness onset of Dec. 1. That person had NO connection to the meat/seafood market. The next 2 cases didn't have an illness onset until 9 days later, Dec 10, and only one of those people is connected to the market. So the thought is that it did NOT start at the meat market. You can see the graph here.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30183-5/fulltext#figures

I'm extremely curious as to why the news media everywhere do not mention the fact that the WuHan Level 4 virus lab is only 15km away from the epic center?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:US amd allies should place sanctions on China until China stops allowing that kind of stuff to take place within its country.

You're unhinged.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What was going on in Wuhan to cause this? I read the CDC website on this virus and it mentioned connection to bats. I wonder how this would get from a bat to a person, perhaps through a bat bite? Are bats an issue in Wuhan, as a public pest?

If China knows these things keep popping up from animal contact, they need to re-examine their protocols about animal handling by humans, as well as pest and rodent control.

They know how it was transmitted. It was from the live meat market. It was from bats, but may have been transmitted from the bats to snakes and then to people. SARS was from bats also.

The snake thing was false information - it had nothing to do with snakes.

The article in the Lancet describing the first several cases shows the first case as having an illness onset of Dec. 1. That person had NO connection to the meat/seafood market. The next 2 cases didn't have an illness onset until 9 days later, Dec 10, and only one of those people is connected to the market. So the thought is that it did NOT start at the meat market. You can see the graph here.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30183-5/fulltext#figures

I'm extremely curious as to why the news media everywhere do not mention the fact that the WuHan Level 4 virus lab is only 15km away from the epic center?

Is there any suggestion whatsoever that it came from the lab? If not, then it’s irrelvant.

[Anonymous]

The third US case is in Orange County, CA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:US amd allies should place sanctions on China until China stops allowing that kind of stuff to take place within its country.

You're unhinged.

+1

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here is the SARS fatality list from the WHO. Anyone notice something? Something statistically interesting?

https://www.who.int/csr/sars/country/country2003_08_15.pdf?ua=1

Cases--Deaths--Fatality rate
TWN — 665 — 180 — 27%
HKG — 1775 — 299 — 16%
CHINA — 5327 — 349 — 6.6%
CAN — 251 — 44 — 17%
SGP — 238 — 33 — 13%

Amazing how one country did so much better treating and saving patients than the others.

Is it the one responsible for the virus notorious for a lack of public health transparency who underreported it to save face?

Ask the microbiologist who says we have good statistics from China.

The microbiologist expressed the view that the statistics coming out of China on the Wuhan virus were good.

She said nothing about the SARS statistics from China, which pretty much everyone agrees were deeply suspect.

China does seem to have learned from SARS that lying about an epidemic can have lasting adverse effects on one's international reputation. Hence, the tendency to think the Wuhan numbers are much more accurate.

BS

They did the exact same thing this time. They hid it and downplayed it for weeks. Are you paying attention? The social media is China is livid that the same stuff is still going on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What was going on in Wuhan to cause this? I read the CDC website on this virus and it mentioned connection to bats. I wonder how this would get from a bat to a person, perhaps through a bat bite? Are bats an issue in Wuhan, as a public pest?

If China knows these things keep popping up from animal contact, they need to re-examine their protocols about animal handling by humans, as well as pest and rodent control.

They know how it was transmitted. It was from the live meat market. It was from bats, but may have been transmitted from the bats to snakes and then to people. SARS was from bats also.

The snake thing was false information - it had nothing to do with snakes.

The article in the Lancet describing the first several cases shows the first case as having an illness onset of Dec. 1. That person had NO connection to the meat/seafood market. The next 2 cases didn't have an illness onset until 9 days later, Dec 10, and only one of those people is connected to the market. So the thought is that it did NOT start at the meat market. You can see the graph here.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30183-5/fulltext#figures

I'm extremely curious as to why the news media everywhere do not mention the fact that the WuHan Level 4 virus lab is only 15km away from the epic center?

Is there any suggestion whatsoever that it came from the lab? If not, then it’s irrelvant.

The fact that not even a suggestion is what concerns me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What was going on in Wuhan to cause this? I read the CDC website on this virus and it mentioned connection to bats. I wonder how this would get from a bat to a person, perhaps through a bat bite? Are bats an issue in Wuhan, as a public pest?

If China knows these things keep popping up from animal contact, they need to re-examine their protocols about animal handling by humans, as well as pest and rodent control.

They know how it was transmitted. It was from the live meat market. It was from bats, but may have been transmitted from the bats to snakes and then to people. SARS was from bats also.

The snake thing was false information - it had nothing to do with snakes.

The article in the Lancet describing the first several cases shows the first case as having an illness onset of Dec. 1. That person had NO connection to the meat/seafood market. The next 2 cases didn't have an illness onset until 9 days later, Dec 10, and only one of those people is connected to the market. So the thought is that it did NOT start at the meat market. You can see the graph here.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30183-5/fulltext#figures

https://www.adventurouskate.com/drinking-snake-blood-in-vietnam/

[Anonymous]

Shanghai has reported the first death in the city, an elderly man who had pre-existing health conditions. There are 40 confirmed cases in the city.

Beijing reports 68 confirmed cases, including a baby.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I want to know who Patient 0 was, and what the hell they were doing with snakes and bats to get this whole thing started. Were they bitten by a snake that had eaten or been bitten by an infected bat? Did they eat the snake?

China needs to do more to stop this from happening again. Their population is simply too large and puts the world at too much risk, for something that seems relatively preventable by banning human consumption and sale of live wildlife like bats and snakes and dogs.

Any game has risks. https://www.louisianasportsman.com/hunting/deer-hunting/zombie-deer/

[Anonymous]

How are the passengers who are coming into US from affected areas screened?
For symptoms only? Like taking their temperature and asking if they have symptoms?
or
Are they having actual tests administered? Given we don't know yet for sure probably
what to believe but in case the CNN statement below would hold true
what good any such symptom testing is good for.

Because CNN just announced this:
China warns that coronavirus can spread before symptoms show
https://www.cnn.com/asia/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-hnk-intl-01-26-20/index.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How are the passengers who are coming into US from affected areas screened?
For symptoms only? Like taking their temperature and asking if they have symptoms?
or
Are they having actual tests administered? Given we don't know yet for sure probably
what to believe but in case the CNN statement below would hold true
what good any such symptom testing is good for.

Because CNN just announced this:
China warns that coronavirus can spread before symptoms show
https://www.cnn.com/asia/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-hnk-intl-01-26-20/index.html

No serious screening so far. I have a friend who just flew from Hong Kong last week, they just checked her temperature at LA, where she had a layover. So, I accept we will hear about much more cases in two weeks.

[Anonymous]

I just found this and this explain a bit more about the process. Question is,
are the passengers from other countries where cases have been detected also screened at this time
or only those who come directly or indirectly from Wuhan? What about Taiwan etc?
Is the CDC planning to change the screening procedures or modify the prevention plan?

What airports are doing

Passengers from Wuhan to the United States -- either on direct or indirect flights -- are only allowed to land at one of five US airports, where health professionals are checking incoming passengers for symptoms.

Travelers at Los Angeles International Airport wear masks as part of heightened safety measures.
Those airports are John F. Kennedy International Airport in New York, Los Angeles International Airport, San Francisco International Airport, Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport and Chicago O'Hare International Airport

Airports implement new coronavrius quarantine rules
Employees from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention have already screened more than 2,000 passengers for symptoms such as fever, cough and trouble breathing.
But these airport screenings might not catch everyone infected. That's because the incubation period can last a week -- meaning it can take a week after getting infected before showing any symptoms. At Seattle-Tacoma International Airport, officials put up signs at the international arrivals area instructing travelers from Wuhan to watch for symptoms of the virus
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/22/health/coronavirus-us-precautions/index.html