Record number of high schoolers swapping the Ivy League for the SEC thanks to sunshine, campus culture - The Times

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Anonymous wrote:My SEC kid is having a blast with his undergrad experience. Great group of friends, gorgeous girlfriend, loving his classes.

I will say though, that he has decided to pursue finance and it’s starting to dawn on him that he is going to have to hustle much harder than his peers at Ivy “target schools” to break in. He may end up with a regional bank, but is confident that he will one day be where he wants to be by outworking everyone. I know he wonders about how his path might have been different being at an Ivy, but that was not an option.

I think ten years from now he will not regret where he went and will remember his times fondly.

He should transfer to GTech- great finance and quant placement.

https://www.peakframeworks.com/post/ib-target-schools
Why are you lying? Gatech is 58 for finance placement. Below even UGA, way below Emory.

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Anonymous wrote:My SEC kid is having a blast with his undergrad experience. Great group of friends, gorgeous girlfriend, loving his classes.

I will say though, that he has decided to pursue finance and it’s starting to dawn on him that he is going to have to hustle much harder than his peers at Ivy “target schools” to break in. He may end up with a regional bank, but is confident that he will one day be where he wants to be by outworking everyone. I know he wonders about how his path might have been different being at an Ivy, but that was not an option.

I think ten years from now he will not regret where he went and will remember his times fondly.

He should transfer to GTech- great finance and quant placement.

Not so sure I would say “great” but definitely not zero.
https://www.peakframeworks.com/post/georgia-tech-ib-rank

That's a garbage article. Data Source "Publicly linkedin profiles". lol I can tell you from personal experience...CS and Engineering kids from Georgia Tech are highly sought after for quant. A lot of them however aren't interested in it. Most stay in Engineering fields or direct CS fields.

https://premium.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/business-quantitative-analysis?myCollege=business&_sort=myCollege&_sortDirection=asc

True... a lot of kids at Gtech have little interest in quant. Especially the Engineering majors. True of the CS kids as well. It's a field that isn't attractive to a lot of the kids that are accepted to a school like GTech. They take their motto "Progress and Service" through technology and innovation very seriously. Kids are more interested in building a rocket that will go to Mars than working on Wall Street 70 hrs a week. It's just how it is there.

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I think baddie prevalence and Wall Street target status are negatively correlated. What’s an ambitious red blooded finance bro to do?

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Anonymous wrote:Swapping the Ivy League? That suggests they had a chance of admission in the first place.

Bwaaaahhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!

I know. I love when I hear parents whose kids were not even close to required test scores, rigor/goa sat the reason their kids aren’t attending the 3-5% admit Ivies is because they like sunshine. So they go to the 50-85% acceptance rate instead.

This was all click bait. It became a thing when the T20s were next to impossible to get into.

But Vandy (<5%) and Duke (<5%).

Duke is not SEC.

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Anonymous wrote:My SEC kid is having a blast with his undergrad experience. Great group of friends, gorgeous girlfriend, loving his classes.

I will say though, that he has decided to pursue finance and it’s starting to dawn on him that he is going to have to hustle much harder than his peers at Ivy “target schools” to break in. He may end up with a regional bank, but is confident that he will one day be where he wants to be by outworking everyone. I know he wonders about how his path might have been different being at an Ivy, but that was not an option.

I think ten years from now he will not regret where he went and will remember his times fondly.

He should transfer to GTech- great finance and quant placement.

Not so sure I would say “great” but definitely not zero.
https://www.peakframeworks.com/post/georgia-tech-ib-rank

Who cares. I’d rather my guy have a beautiful girlfriend than work at Goldman Sachs. The strivers can enjoy that all for themselves.

What beautiful girls go to Gatech?

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Anonymous wrote:Can’t be too much about sunshine- their own graph shows students pouring out in hordes from Texas and California

Too hard to get in UT and AM

Uh…no not at all if you’re top of the class- as suggested tbt this article that students are going from ivy->SEC. The top 6% automatically get into Ut- which has a 30% acceptance rate. Top 10% automatically get into A&M and has a 60% acceptance rate. It isn’t difficult getting into these schools if you’re ivy material.

You don’t get it. Not everyone cares about ivies. Kids in the south want a top flagship or southern ivy

No I do get it- I’m from Texas! This isn’t an abstract idea. Pretty much anyone with a pulse gets into A&M. Most kids who were progressive were UT Austin or bust and left the state.

Not true. A&M rejects 40% of their applicants and its ranking is pretty decent for publics. Not a bad school hey any objective measure. Of course, the freaks on this thread are anything but objective.

>50% admit rate is safety school

Typical Ivy or bust mindset. These people covet exclusivity above all. They don’t know how to actually evaluate a product (be it a purse or a car or an education) on its merits, and they don’t care to know.

Or maybe their kids are just at a higher academic profile than yours? I don’t know a lot of 1500+/4.0 kids seriously considering a school that accepts 60% of applicants.

PP. My kids aren’t quite old enough to navigate this themselves yet, but I was a 1500+/4.0 kid who never considered an Ivy. I considered schools that were going to give me a full ride. Waste your money if you want to, but some of us aren’t complete suckers and brand whores.

Ivies are more affordable to our family (and a majority of American families) than our state flagship. Maybe don’t assume the financial profile of who you’re speaking to?

Bullshit. Ivies are dominated by the top 1%

The good thing is our statements aren’t mutually exclusive!

Maybe you don’t understand math

I..wow you’re really stubborn. The ivies would literally be tuition free for my child, so I do know how the finances work out. If you’re worried, I’ll send you over my bills and we can work out a budget plan together, but the ivies would be cheap for most American families- doesn’t mean most American families can get in.

I’m not concerned with statistical outliers

Outliers my ass. Princeton is tuition free for families up to $250,000/ year. That is a 90th percentile household income. So no, you are the one living in fantasy land.

You don’t understand math. What percentage of ENROLLED kids qualify?

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Anonymous wrote:Can’t be too much about sunshine- their own graph shows students pouring out in hordes from Texas and California

Too hard to get in UT and AM

Uh…no not at all if you’re top of the class- as suggested tbt this article that students are going from ivy->SEC. The top 6% automatically get into Ut- which has a 30% acceptance rate. Top 10% automatically get into A&M and has a 60% acceptance rate. It isn’t difficult getting into these schools if you’re ivy material.

You don’t get it. Not everyone cares about ivies. Kids in the south want a top flagship or southern ivy

No I do get it- I’m from Texas! This isn’t an abstract idea. Pretty much anyone with a pulse gets into A&M. Most kids who were progressive were UT Austin or bust and left the state.

Not true. A&M rejects 40% of their applicants and its ranking is pretty decent for publics. Not a bad school hey any objective measure. Of course, the freaks on this thread are anything but objective.

>50% admit rate is safety school

Typical Ivy or bust mindset. These people covet exclusivity above all. They don’t know how to actually evaluate a product (be it a purse or a car or an education) on its merits, and they don’t care to know.

Or maybe their kids are just at a higher academic profile than yours? I don’t know a lot of 1500+/4.0 kids seriously considering a school that accepts 60% of applicants.

PP. My kids aren’t quite old enough to navigate this themselves yet, but I was a 1500+/4.0 kid who never considered an Ivy. I considered schools that were going to give me a full ride. Waste your money if you want to, but some of us aren’t complete suckers and brand whores.

Ivies are more affordable to our family (and a majority of American families) than our state flagship. Maybe don’t assume the financial profile of who you’re speaking to?

Bullshit. Ivies are dominated by the top 1%

The good thing is our statements aren’t mutually exclusive!

Maybe you don’t understand math

They understand it perfectly. If you can get in, an elite private can be very affordable. My elite private education was the same cost as my in state flagship would have been, because my family didn't have much money.

That doesn't mean that most of the students there weren't in the top 1%, just that those of us who weren't were paying very reasonable bills.

So you were a statistical outlier

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Anonymous wrote:Can’t be too much about sunshine- their own graph shows students pouring out in hordes from Texas and California

Too hard to get in UT and AM

Uh…no not at all if you’re top of the class- as suggested tbt this article that students are going from ivy->SEC. The top 6% automatically get into Ut- which has a 30% acceptance rate. Top 10% automatically get into A&M and has a 60% acceptance rate. It isn’t difficult getting into these schools if you’re ivy material.

You don’t get it. Not everyone cares about ivies. Kids in the south want a top flagship or southern ivy

No I do get it- I’m from Texas! This isn’t an abstract idea. Pretty much anyone with a pulse gets into A&M. Most kids who were progressive were UT Austin or bust and left the state.

Not true. A&M rejects 40% of their applicants and its ranking is pretty decent for publics. Not a bad school hey any objective measure. Of course, the freaks on this thread are anything but objective.

>50% admit rate is safety school

Typical Ivy or bust mindset. These people covet exclusivity above all. They don’t know how to actually evaluate a product (be it a purse or a car or an education) on its merits, and they don’t care to know.

Or maybe their kids are just at a higher academic profile than yours? I don’t know a lot of 1500+/4.0 kids seriously considering a school that accepts 60% of applicants.

PP. My kids aren’t quite old enough to navigate this themselves yet, but I was a 1500+/4.0 kid who never considered an Ivy. I considered schools that were going to give me a full ride. Waste your money if you want to, but some of us aren’t complete suckers and brand whores.

Ivies are more affordable to our family (and a majority of American families) than our state flagship. Maybe don’t assume the financial profile of who you’re speaking to?

Bullshit. Ivies are dominated by the top 1%

The good thing is our statements aren’t mutually exclusive!

Maybe you don’t understand math

I..wow you’re really stubborn. The ivies would literally be tuition free for my child, so I do know how the finances work out. If you’re worried, I’ll send you over my bills and we can work out a budget plan together, but the ivies would be cheap for most American families- doesn’t mean most American families can get in.

I’m not concerned with statistical outliers

You’re very disingenuous. It’s a fact that ivies are cheaper if you can get in unless you’re a statistical outlier and make amazing money.

Tell me you don’t understand admissions without telling me you don’t understand admissions.

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Anonymous wrote:My SEC kid is having a blast with his undergrad experience. Great group of friends, gorgeous girlfriend, loving his classes.

I will say though, that he has decided to pursue finance and it’s starting to dawn on him that he is going to have to hustle much harder than his peers at Ivy “target schools” to break in. He may end up with a regional bank, but is confident that he will one day be where he wants to be by outworking everyone. I know he wonders about how his path might have been different being at an Ivy, but that was not an option.

I think ten years from now he will not regret where he went and will remember his times fondly.

He will quickly forget any issues every time he’s inside his sec 8 — which wouldn’t even exist at an ivy

Regional bank dudes many times have way badder women than nyc md’s!

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Anonymous wrote:I know SEC grads who are living very good lives with plenty of money for things like nice houses, K-12 private school, full pay private college, trips, etc. And I know HPYSM grads and WASP grads who are struggling. So much life happens after college- who you marry, who you meet, where you settle, mental and physical health struggles, economic/technological/social shifts. It’s short-sighted to think that any college can be a golden ticket.

I think what sec kids (who are umc and attractive) do very well is they are content at being well off within their milieu and not really strive for things outside their control/wheelhouse

Hypsm/wasp kids want to “make it” it way more competitive environments, some of which have no outsized monetary rewards (like politics, arts, academia)

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Anonymous wrote:My SEC kid is having a blast with his undergrad experience. Great group of friends, gorgeous girlfriend, loving his classes.

I will say though, that he has decided to pursue finance and it’s starting to dawn on him that he is going to have to hustle much harder than his peers at Ivy “target schools” to break in. He may end up with a regional bank, but is confident that he will one day be where he wants to be by outworking everyone. I know he wonders about how his path might have been different being at an Ivy, but that was not an option.

I think ten years from now he will not regret where he went and will remember his times fondly.

He will quickly forget any issues every time he’s inside his sec 8 — which wouldn’t even exist at an ivy

Regional bank dudes many times have way badder women than nyc md’s!

You people are so weird.

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Anonymous wrote:My SEC kid is having a blast with his undergrad experience. Great group of friends, gorgeous girlfriend, loving his classes.

I will say though, that he has decided to pursue finance and it’s starting to dawn on him that he is going to have to hustle much harder than his peers at Ivy “target schools” to break in. He may end up with a regional bank, but is confident that he will one day be where he wants to be by outworking everyone. I know he wonders about how his path might have been different being at an Ivy, but that was not an option.

I think ten years from now he will not regret where he went and will remember his times fondly.

He should transfer to GTech- great finance and quant placement.

SEC > GT

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Anonymous wrote:My SEC kid is having a blast with his undergrad experience. Great group of friends, gorgeous girlfriend, loving his classes.

I will say though, that he has decided to pursue finance and it’s starting to dawn on him that he is going to have to hustle much harder than his peers at Ivy “target schools” to break in. He may end up with a regional bank, but is confident that he will one day be where he wants to be by outworking everyone. I know he wonders about how his path might have been different being at an Ivy, but that was not an option.

I think ten years from now he will not regret where he went and will remember his times fondly.

He should transfer to GTech- great finance and quant placement.

Not so sure I would say “great” but definitely not zero.
https://www.peakframeworks.com/post/georgia-tech-ib-rank

Who cares. I’d rather my guy have a beautiful girlfriend than work at Goldman Sachs. The strivers can enjoy that all for themselves.

+1 beautiful families start by dating in the SEC

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Anonymous wrote:I think baddie prevalence and Wall Street target status are negatively correlated. What’s an ambitious red blooded finance bro to do?

There is a reason why vandy, uva and duke are so popular

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Anonymous wrote:My SEC kid is having a blast with his undergrad experience. Great group of friends, gorgeous girlfriend, loving his classes.

I will say though, that he has decided to pursue finance and it’s starting to dawn on him that he is going to have to hustle much harder than his peers at Ivy “target schools” to break in. He may end up with a regional bank, but is confident that he will one day be where he wants to be by outworking everyone. I know he wonders about how his path might have been different being at an Ivy, but that was not an option.

I think ten years from now he will not regret where he went and will remember his times fondly.

He should transfer to GTech- great finance and quant placement.

SEC > GT

This thread has now jumped the shark.