Record number of high schoolers swapping the Ivy League for the SEC thanks to sunshine, campus culture - The Times

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Anonymous wrote:My SEC kid is having a blast with his undergrad experience. Great group of friends, gorgeous girlfriend, loving his classes.

I will say though, that he has decided to pursue finance and it’s starting to dawn on him that he is going to have to hustle much harder than his peers at Ivy “target schools” to break in. He may end up with a regional bank, but is confident that he will one day be where he wants to be by outworking everyone. I know he wonders about how his path might have been different being at an Ivy, but that was not an option.

I think ten years from now he will not regret where he went and will remember his times fondly.

He should transfer to GTech- great finance and quant placement.

SEC > GT

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Sorry GT didn’t get in

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Anonymous wrote:Can’t be too much about sunshine- their own graph shows students pouring out in hordes from Texas and California

Too hard to get in UT and AM

Uh…no not at all if you’re top of the class- as suggested tbt this article that students are going from ivy->SEC. The top 6% automatically get into Ut- which has a 30% acceptance rate. Top 10% automatically get into A&M and has a 60% acceptance rate. It isn’t difficult getting into these schools if you’re ivy material.

You don’t get it. Not everyone cares about ivies. Kids in the south want a top flagship or southern ivy

No I do get it- I’m from Texas! This isn’t an abstract idea. Pretty much anyone with a pulse gets into A&M. Most kids who were progressive were UT Austin or bust and left the state.

Not true. A&M rejects 40% of their applicants and its ranking is pretty decent for publics. Not a bad school hey any objective measure. Of course, the freaks on this thread are anything but objective.

>50% admit rate is safety school

Typical Ivy or bust mindset. These people covet exclusivity above all. They don’t know how to actually evaluate a product (be it a purse or a car or an education) on its merits, and they don’t care to know.

Or maybe their kids are just at a higher academic profile than yours? I don’t know a lot of 1500+/4.0 kids seriously considering a school that accepts 60% of applicants.

PP. My kids aren’t quite old enough to navigate this themselves yet, but I was a 1500+/4.0 kid who never considered an Ivy. I considered schools that were going to give me a full ride. Waste your money if you want to, but some of us aren’t complete suckers and brand whores.

Not all families have a budget constraint.

One doesn’t necessarily need a budget constraint to not light money on fire or flush it down the toilet. Maybe you do?

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Anonymous wrote:My SEC kid is having a blast with his undergrad experience. Great group of friends, gorgeous girlfriend, loving his classes.

I will say though, that he has decided to pursue finance and it’s starting to dawn on him that he is going to have to hustle much harder than his peers at Ivy “target schools” to break in. He may end up with a regional bank, but is confident that he will one day be where he wants to be by outworking everyone. I know he wonders about how his path might have been different being at an Ivy, but that was not an option.

I think ten years from now he will not regret where he went and will remember his times fondly.

He should transfer to GTech- great finance and quant placement.

https://www.peakframeworks.com/post/ib-target-schools
Why are you lying? Gatech is 58 for finance placement. Below even UGA, way below Emory.

lol based sole source is linkedin public profiles

So, according to this ranking UGA and Emory are above MIT, CMU and Georgia Tech for Finance and Investment Banking. GTFO. Can't make this sh*t up.

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Anonymous wrote:Can’t be too much about sunshine- their own graph shows students pouring out in hordes from Texas and California

Too hard to get in UT and AM

Uh…no not at all if you’re top of the class- as suggested tbt this article that students are going from ivy->SEC. The top 6% automatically get into Ut- which has a 30% acceptance rate. Top 10% automatically get into A&M and has a 60% acceptance rate. It isn’t difficult getting into these schools if you’re ivy material.

You don’t get it. Not everyone cares about ivies. Kids in the south want a top flagship or southern ivy

No I do get it- I’m from Texas! This isn’t an abstract idea. Pretty much anyone with a pulse gets into A&M. Most kids who were progressive were UT Austin or bust and left the state.

Not true. A&M rejects 40% of their applicants and its ranking is pretty decent for publics. Not a bad school hey any objective measure. Of course, the freaks on this thread are anything but objective.

>50% admit rate is safety school

Typical Ivy or bust mindset. These people covet exclusivity above all. They don’t know how to actually evaluate a product (be it a purse or a car or an education) on its merits, and they don’t care to know.

Or maybe their kids are just at a higher academic profile than yours? I don’t know a lot of 1500+/4.0 kids seriously considering a school that accepts 60% of applicants.

PP. My kids aren’t quite old enough to navigate this themselves yet, but I was a 1500+/4.0 kid who never considered an Ivy. I considered schools that were going to give me a full ride. Waste your money if you want to, but some of us aren’t complete suckers and brand whores.

Ivies are more affordable to our family (and a majority of American families) than our state flagship. Maybe don’t assume the financial profile of who you’re speaking to?

If your kid can get admitted to an Ivy, and you’re poor enough to get it paid for, then they can get undoubtedly get a full ride at your state flagship. Try again.

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Anonymous wrote:My SEC kid is having a blast with his undergrad experience. Great group of friends, gorgeous girlfriend, loving his classes.

I will say though, that he has decided to pursue finance and it’s starting to dawn on him that he is going to have to hustle much harder than his peers at Ivy “target schools” to break in. He may end up with a regional bank, but is confident that he will one day be where he wants to be by outworking everyone. I know he wonders about how his path might have been different being at an Ivy, but that was not an option.

I think ten years from now he will not regret where he went and will remember his times fondly.

He should transfer to GTech- great finance and quant placement.

https://www.peakframeworks.com/post/ib-target-schools
Why are you lying? Gatech is 58 for finance placement. Below even UGA, way below Emory.

lol based sole source is linkedin public profiles

So, according to this ranking UGA and Emory are above MIT, CMU and Georgia Tech for Finance and Investment Banking. GTFO. Can't make this sh*t up.

Truth hurts!!

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Anonymous wrote:Can’t be too much about sunshine- their own graph shows students pouring out in hordes from Texas and California

Too hard to get in UT and AM

Uh…no not at all if you’re top of the class- as suggested tbt this article that students are going from ivy->SEC. The top 6% automatically get into Ut- which has a 30% acceptance rate. Top 10% automatically get into A&M and has a 60% acceptance rate. It isn’t difficult getting into these schools if you’re ivy material.

You don’t get it. Not everyone cares about ivies. Kids in the south want a top flagship or southern ivy

No I do get it- I’m from Texas! This isn’t an abstract idea. Pretty much anyone with a pulse gets into A&M. Most kids who were progressive were UT Austin or bust and left the state.

Not true. A&M rejects 40% of their applicants and its ranking is pretty decent for publics. Not a bad school hey any objective measure. Of course, the freaks on this thread are anything but objective.

>50% admit rate is safety school

Typical Ivy or bust mindset. These people covet exclusivity above all. They don’t know how to actually evaluate a product (be it a purse or a car or an education) on its merits, and they don’t care to know.

Or maybe their kids are just at a higher academic profile than yours? I don’t know a lot of 1500+/4.0 kids seriously considering a school that accepts 60% of applicants.

PP. My kids aren’t quite old enough to navigate this themselves yet, but I was a 1500+/4.0 kid who never considered an Ivy. I considered schools that were going to give me a full ride. Waste your money if you want to, but some of us aren’t complete suckers and brand whores.

Ivies are more affordable to our family (and a majority of American families) than our state flagship. Maybe don’t assume the financial profile of who you’re speaking to?

Bullshit. Ivies are dominated by the top 1%

The good thing is our statements aren’t mutually exclusive!

Maybe you don’t understand math

I..wow you’re really stubborn. The ivies would literally be tuition free for my child, so I do know how the finances work out. If you’re worried, I’ll send you over my bills and we can work out a budget plan together, but the ivies would be cheap for most American families- doesn’t mean most American families can get in.

Please do. While you’re at it send over the offer from the state school that is more expensive than the Ivy for a kid with the stats to be admitted to an Ivy.

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Anonymous wrote:My SEC kid is having a blast with his undergrad experience. Great group of friends, gorgeous girlfriend, loving his classes.

I will say though, that he has decided to pursue finance and it’s starting to dawn on him that he is going to have to hustle much harder than his peers at Ivy “target schools” to break in. He may end up with a regional bank, but is confident that he will one day be where he wants to be by outworking everyone. I know he wonders about how his path might have been different being at an Ivy, but that was not an option.

I think ten years from now he will not regret where he went and will remember his times fondly.

He should transfer to GTech- great finance and quant placement.

SEC > GT

This thread has now jumped the shark.

Sorry GT didn’t get in

lol huh?

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Anonymous wrote:Can’t be too much about sunshine- their own graph shows students pouring out in hordes from Texas and California

Too hard to get in UT and AM

Uh…no not at all if you’re top of the class- as suggested tbt this article that students are going from ivy->SEC. The top 6% automatically get into Ut- which has a 30% acceptance rate. Top 10% automatically get into A&M and has a 60% acceptance rate. It isn’t difficult getting into these schools if you’re ivy material.

You don’t get it. Not everyone cares about ivies. Kids in the south want a top flagship or southern ivy

No I do get it- I’m from Texas! This isn’t an abstract idea. Pretty much anyone with a pulse gets into A&M. Most kids who were progressive were UT Austin or bust and left the state.

Not true. A&M rejects 40% of their applicants and its ranking is pretty decent for publics. Not a bad school hey any objective measure. Of course, the freaks on this thread are anything but objective.

>50% admit rate is safety school

Typical Ivy or bust mindset. These people covet exclusivity above all. They don’t know how to actually evaluate a product (be it a purse or a car or an education) on its merits, and they don’t care to know.

Or maybe their kids are just at a higher academic profile than yours? I don’t know a lot of 1500+/4.0 kids seriously considering a school that accepts 60% of applicants.

PP. My kids aren’t quite old enough to navigate this themselves yet, but I was a 1500+/4.0 kid who never considered an Ivy. I considered schools that were going to give me a full ride. Waste your money if you want to, but some of us aren’t complete suckers and brand whores.

Ivies are more affordable to our family (and a majority of American families) than our state flagship. Maybe don’t assume the financial profile of who you’re speaking to?

Bullshit. Ivies are dominated by the top 1%

The good thing is our statements aren’t mutually exclusive!

Maybe you don’t understand math

I..wow you’re really stubborn. The ivies would literally be tuition free for my child, so I do know how the finances work out. If you’re worried, I’ll send you over my bills and we can work out a budget plan together, but the ivies would be cheap for most American families- doesn’t mean most American families can get in.

I’m not concerned with statistical outliers

You’re very disingenuous. It’s a fact that ivies are cheaper if you can get in unless you’re a statistical outlier and make amazing money.

Speaking of disingenuous, I’m the original PP who said I didn’t consider Ivies. You do realize that the Ivies have not always been tuition free for the middle class and the poors, don’t you? It’s a relatively recent policy.

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Anonymous wrote:Can’t be too much about sunshine- their own graph shows students pouring out in hordes from Texas and California

Too hard to get in UT and AM

Uh…no not at all if you’re top of the class- as suggested tbt this article that students are going from ivy->SEC. The top 6% automatically get into Ut- which has a 30% acceptance rate. Top 10% automatically get into A&M and has a 60% acceptance rate. It isn’t difficult getting into these schools if you’re ivy material.

You don’t get it. Not everyone cares about ivies. Kids in the south want a top flagship or southern ivy

No I do get it- I’m from Texas! This isn’t an abstract idea. Pretty much anyone with a pulse gets into A&M. Most kids who were progressive were UT Austin or bust and left the state.

Not true. A&M rejects 40% of their applicants and its ranking is pretty decent for publics. Not a bad school hey any objective measure. Of course, the freaks on this thread are anything but objective.

>50% admit rate is safety school

Typical Ivy or bust mindset. These people covet exclusivity above all. They don’t know how to actually evaluate a product (be it a purse or a car or an education) on its merits, and they don’t care to know.

Or maybe their kids are just at a higher academic profile than yours? I don’t know a lot of 1500+/4.0 kids seriously considering a school that accepts 60% of applicants.

PP. My kids aren’t quite old enough to navigate this themselves yet, but I was a 1500+/4.0 kid who never considered an Ivy. I considered schools that were going to give me a full ride. Waste your money if you want to, but some of us aren’t complete suckers and brand whores.

Not all families have a budget constraint.

One doesn’t necessarily need a budget constraint to not light money on fire or flush it down the toilet. Maybe you do?

My kids will primarily choose a school based on fit, not finances.

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Anonymous wrote:My SEC kid is having a blast with his undergrad experience. Great group of friends, gorgeous girlfriend, loving his classes.

I will say though, that he has decided to pursue finance and it’s starting to dawn on him that he is going to have to hustle much harder than his peers at Ivy “target schools” to break in. He may end up with a regional bank, but is confident that he will one day be where he wants to be by outworking everyone. I know he wonders about how his path might have been different being at an Ivy, but that was not an option.

I think ten years from now he will not regret where he went and will remember his times fondly.

He should transfer to GTech- great finance and quant placement.

Not so sure I would say “great” but definitely not zero.
https://www.peakframeworks.com/post/georgia-tech-ib-rank

Who cares. I’d rather my guy have a beautiful girlfriend than work at Goldman Sachs. The strivers can enjoy that all for themselves.

gross

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Anonymous wrote:Can’t be too much about sunshine- their own graph shows students pouring out in hordes from Texas and California

Too hard to get in UT and AM

Uh…no not at all if you’re top of the class- as suggested tbt this article that students are going from ivy->SEC. The top 6% automatically get into Ut- which has a 30% acceptance rate. Top 10% automatically get into A&M and has a 60% acceptance rate. It isn’t difficult getting into these schools if you’re ivy material.

You don’t get it. Not everyone cares about ivies. Kids in the south want a top flagship or southern ivy

No I do get it- I’m from Texas! This isn’t an abstract idea. Pretty much anyone with a pulse gets into A&M. Most kids who were progressive were UT Austin or bust and left the state.

Not true. A&M rejects 40% of their applicants and its ranking is pretty decent for publics. Not a bad school hey any objective measure. Of course, the freaks on this thread are anything but objective.

>50% admit rate is safety school

Typical Ivy or bust mindset. These people covet exclusivity above all. They don’t know how to actually evaluate a product (be it a purse or a car or an education) on its merits, and they don’t care to know.

Or maybe their kids are just at a higher academic profile than yours? I don’t know a lot of 1500+/4.0 kids seriously considering a school that accepts 60% of applicants.

PP. My kids aren’t quite old enough to navigate this themselves yet, but I was a 1500+/4.0 kid who never considered an Ivy. I considered schools that were going to give me a full ride. Waste your money if you want to, but some of us aren’t complete suckers and brand whores.

Ivies are more affordable to our family (and a majority of American families) than our state flagship. Maybe don’t assume the financial profile of who you’re speaking to?

If your kid can get admitted to an Ivy, and you’re poor enough to get it paid for, then they can get undoubtedly get a full ride at your state flagship. Try again.

Wrong, good state flagship full rides are more selective than Ivies, especially considering that Ivies give a boost to FGLI students while most merit full ride scholarships are just merit based. Also, the majority of state flagships do not give full ride scholarships.

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Anonymous wrote:Can’t be too much about sunshine- their own graph shows students pouring out in hordes from Texas and California

Too hard to get in UT and AM

Uh…no not at all if you’re top of the class- as suggested tbt this article that students are going from ivy->SEC. The top 6% automatically get into Ut- which has a 30% acceptance rate. Top 10% automatically get into A&M and has a 60% acceptance rate. It isn’t difficult getting into these schools if you’re ivy material.

You don’t get it. Not everyone cares about ivies. Kids in the south want a top flagship or southern ivy

No I do get it- I’m from Texas! This isn’t an abstract idea. Pretty much anyone with a pulse gets into A&M. Most kids who were progressive were UT Austin or bust and left the state.

Not true. A&M rejects 40% of their applicants and its ranking is pretty decent for publics. Not a bad school hey any objective measure. Of course, the freaks on this thread are anything but objective.

>50% admit rate is safety school

Typical Ivy or bust mindset. These people covet exclusivity above all. They don’t know how to actually evaluate a product (be it a purse or a car or an education) on its merits, and they don’t care to know.

Or maybe their kids are just at a higher academic profile than yours? I don’t know a lot of 1500+/4.0 kids seriously considering a school that accepts 60% of applicants.

PP. My kids aren’t quite old enough to navigate this themselves yet, but I was a 1500+/4.0 kid who never considered an Ivy. I considered schools that were going to give me a full ride. Waste your money if you want to, but some of us aren’t complete suckers and brand whores.

Ivies are more affordable to our family (and a majority of American families) than our state flagship. Maybe don’t assume the financial profile of who you’re speaking to?

Bullshit. Ivies are dominated by the top 1%

The good thing is our statements aren’t mutually exclusive!

Maybe you don’t understand math

I..wow you’re really stubborn. The ivies would literally be tuition free for my child, so I do know how the finances work out. If you’re worried, I’ll send you over my bills and we can work out a budget plan together, but the ivies would be cheap for most American families- doesn’t mean most American families can get in.

I’m not concerned with statistical outliers

You’re very disingenuous. It’s a fact that ivies are cheaper if you can get in unless you’re a statistical outlier and make amazing money.

Speaking of disingenuous, I’m the original PP who said I didn’t consider Ivies. You do realize that the Ivies have not always been tuition free for the middle class and the poors, don’t you? It’s a relatively recent policy.

+1 and they admit very very few families that qualify. That, is truly disingenuous.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=University+of+Alabama+at+Birmingham&with=Harvard+University

UAB isn’t Alabama. You people are so dumb lol you don’t even know your SEC schools and you keep citing stats for the worst ones. Too afraid to talk about UF and UGA huh?

Run UGA against various schools…75% select Penn, 76% select Princeton, 78% select Brown. Those were the only Ivy comparisons where they had enough data for UGA.

For UF, 67% pick Penn. Thats the only Ivy comparison with enough data.

Did you honestly think it would be different?

That isn’t a reliable tool and you know it. Plenty of kids prefer the SEC. You should get out more, really.

It’s the most reliable tool there is and what PP was trying to refute.

Most kids don’t apply to both and even fewer kids are accepted to both.

You are the one who shit posts constantly on this thread…so talk about getting out more.

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Facts don’t fit the narrative.

What’s the narrative?

That there are tons of kids turning down Ivy League schools for UGA or UF.

Where was that posted?

“Too afraid to talk about UF and UGA huh?”

Where was “tons of kids turning down IVY League schools for UGA and UF”posted?

Context of the thread. Duh.

Or maybe we all agree that the vast majority of kids are NOT turning down Ivy League schools for UGA and UF?

I’d say the kids going to UGA and UF don’t apply because they know the SEC is what they want. If they get honors they’re probably Ivy quality, just not what they wanted. This isn’t hard lol take some deep breaths

Great. So we all agree that the vast majority of kids are NOT turning down Ivy League schools for UGA and UF?

They don’t even apply to podunk ivies

They aren’t getting in. Sad.

They’re not applying to the Ivies because people in their social
Circles in the South didn’t attend Ivies or northeastern SLAC’s. They don’t care about those schools. It’s not considered a birthright or entitlement or badge of honor for a high stats kid to attend an Ivy.

High-stats kids covet high-ranked schools

Sure. Like top flagships and southern ivies. Stop trying to make fetch happen, southerners don’t govern a shit about your cone head college

Not a thing.

Oh it is, stick it up your nose and snort it!!

Karen, are you drunk already? It’s only 1pm.

Seems like you do “give a shit” about the “cone head colleges” if you want to make up the faux “southern ivy” moniker.

It’s just fun running circles around you

The wine is making your head spin.

I’m smarter than you drunk or sober

You're SEC smart, which means you know how to tap the keg.

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Anonymous wrote:I think baddie prevalence and Wall Street target status are negatively correlated. What’s an ambitious red blooded finance bro to do?

Duke, Vanderbilt, Berkeley MET,

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Anonymous wrote:My SEC kid is having a blast with his undergrad experience. Great group of friends, gorgeous girlfriend, loving his classes.

I will say though, that he has decided to pursue finance and it’s starting to dawn on him that he is going to have to hustle much harder than his peers at Ivy “target schools” to break in. He may end up with a regional bank, but is confident that he will one day be where he wants to be by outworking everyone. I know he wonders about how his path might have been different being at an Ivy, but that was not an option.

I think ten years from now he will not regret where he went and will remember his times fondly.

He should transfer to GTech- great finance and quant placement.

SEC > GT

This thread has now jumped the shark.

Sorry GT didn’t get in

lol huh?

Stuck in an inferior league lol