Hayfield Football Coach Fired

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Undisputed facts: At least 12 players on Hayfield Varsity are listed as playing for Freedom last year, as well as 3 transfers from private schools in MD and DC. (Note: actually 4)

There are also 7 new junior and senior players on Varsity who did not attend Hayfield last year.

That's 22 definite transfers who are new this year to Hayfield Varsity.

There are an additional 13 freshman listed on the Varsity team with no way of knowing where they came from. I have never seen an FCPS HS roster with 13 freshman on it. Even 1 freshman on Varsity is highly unusual. Speculation: At least some if not most or all of these kids probably play on the coach's private AAU team.

Sophomores are a mystery without a published Hayfield freshman roster from last year.

Finally, there are still a handful of players who were pulled off the roster at the last minute by VHSL who are still not eligible. No one knows how many or why they are barred from playing.

So, if Hayfield parents have been saying 33, its easy to see how they got up to that number. Its clearly more than 15. (And 15 transfers is an insane number!)

Re-upping the math for the person confused about the number of hand-picked recruits on Varsity.

You only know of 15. Those 7 could be people who moved (as could the 3 privates truly) As well as the others you cant account for. Hayfield has a lot of movement due to the military

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Undisputed facts: At least 12 players on Hayfield Varsity are listed as playing for Freedom last year, as well as 3 transfers from private schools in MD and DC. (Note: actually 4)

There are also 7 new junior and senior players on Varsity who did not attend Hayfield last year.

That's 22 definite transfers who are new this year to Hayfield Varsity.

There are an additional 13 freshman listed on the Varsity team with no way of knowing where they came from. I have never seen an FCPS HS roster with 13 freshman on it. Even 1 freshman on Varsity is highly unusual. Speculation: At least some if not most or all of these kids probably play on the coach's private AAU team.

Sophomores are a mystery without a published Hayfield freshman roster from last year.

Finally, there are still a handful of players who were pulled off the roster at the last minute by VHSL who are still not eligible. No one knows how many or why they are barred from playing.

So, if Hayfield parents have been saying 33, its easy to see how they got up to that number. Its clearly more than 15. (And 15 transfers is an insane number!)

Re-upping the math for the person confused about the number of hand-picked recruits on Varsity.

Yeah, I really don't see how there are possibly fewer than 23 transfers if this is correct. And logically, probably at least ten more considering the 13 (!) Freshman listed as Varsity and all the mystery sophonores. Which does get you easily up to the 33 transfers the Hayfield parents and Fairfax Times reported.

If the Overton backers think recruiting and transferring is fine, why do they keep arguing that its "only" 15? If its fine to recruit and transfer, they shouldn't care if its 33 or 100.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Undisputed facts: At least 12 players on Hayfield Varsity are listed as playing for Freedom last year, as well as 3 transfers from private schools in MD and DC. (Note: actually 4)

There are also 7 new junior and senior players on Varsity who did not attend Hayfield last year.

That's 22 definite transfers who are new this year to Hayfield Varsity.

There are an additional 13 freshman listed on the Varsity team with no way of knowing where they came from. I have never seen an FCPS HS roster with 13 freshman on it. Even 1 freshman on Varsity is highly unusual. Speculation: At least some if not most or all of these kids probably play on the coach's private AAU team.

Sophomores are a mystery without a published Hayfield freshman roster from last year.

Finally, there are still a handful of players who were pulled off the roster at the last minute by VHSL who are still not eligible. No one knows how many or why they are barred from playing.

So, if Hayfield parents have been saying 33, its easy to see how they got up to that number. Its clearly more than 15. (And 15 transfers is an insane number!)

Re-upping the math for the person confused about the number of hand-picked recruits on Varsity.

You only know of 15. Those 7 could be people who moved (as could the 3 privates truly) As well as the others you cant account for. Hayfield has a lot of movement due to the military

Those are all transfers. Transferring from Freedom, transferring from Potomac, transferring from McKinley HS in DC, transferring from DeMatha in MD, transferring from St Johns in DC. That's...what the word transfer means.

My kid goes to WSHS---a lot of military families here!-- and we average about 1 new player a year on the football team from military moves (JV and V combined). Not dozens. Many military stay put for HS and/or their kids don't play football.

[Anonymous]

I want to hear about the 13 Freshman listed as Varsity players. Is that a mistake on the roster? That is beyond unheard-of.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Undisputed facts: At least 12 players on Hayfield Varsity are listed as playing for Freedom last year, as well as 3 transfers from private schools in MD and DC. (Note: actually 4)

There are also 7 new junior and senior players on Varsity who did not attend Hayfield last year.

That's 22 definite transfers who are new this year to Hayfield Varsity.

There are an additional 13 freshman listed on the Varsity team with no way of knowing where they came from. I have never seen an FCPS HS roster with 13 freshman on it. Even 1 freshman on Varsity is highly unusual. Speculation: At least some if not most or all of these kids probably play on the coach's private AAU team.

Sophomores are a mystery without a published Hayfield freshman roster from last year.

Finally, there are still a handful of players who were pulled off the roster at the last minute by VHSL who are still not eligible. No one knows how many or why they are barred from playing.

So, if Hayfield parents have been saying 33, its easy to see how they got up to that number. Its clearly more than 15. (And 15 transfers is an insane number!)

Re-upping the math for the person confused about the number of hand-picked recruits on Varsity.

You only know of 15. Those 7 could be people who moved (as could the 3 privates truly) As well as the others you cant account for. Hayfield has a lot of movement due to the military

15 is the number FCPS gave that transferred in wanting to play football. The superintendent herself said that in a public statement after the team was investigated due to the complaints made by supporters of white supremacy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Undisputed facts: At least 12 players on Hayfield Varsity are listed as playing for Freedom last year, as well as 3 transfers from private schools in MD and DC. (Note: actually 4)

There are also 7 new junior and senior players on Varsity who did not attend Hayfield last year.

That's 22 definite transfers who are new this year to Hayfield Varsity.

There are an additional 13 freshman listed on the Varsity team with no way of knowing where they came from. I have never seen an FCPS HS roster with 13 freshman on it. Even 1 freshman on Varsity is highly unusual. Speculation: At least some if not most or all of these kids probably play on the coach's private AAU team.

Sophomores are a mystery without a published Hayfield freshman roster from last year.

Finally, there are still a handful of players who were pulled off the roster at the last minute by VHSL who are still not eligible. No one knows how many or why they are barred from playing.

So, if Hayfield parents have been saying 33, its easy to see how they got up to that number. Its clearly more than 15. (And 15 transfers is an insane number!)

Re-upping the math for the person confused about the number of hand-picked recruits on Varsity.

You only know of 15. Those 7 could be people who moved (as could the 3 privates truly) As well as the others you cant account for. Hayfield has a lot of movement due to the military

Those are all transfers. Transferring from Freedom, transferring from Potomac, transferring from McKinley HS in DC, transferring from DeMatha in MD, transferring from St Johns in DC. That's...what the word transfer means.

My kid goes to WSHS---a lot of military families here!-- and we average about 1 new player a year on the football team from military moves (JV and V combined). Not dozens. Many military stay put for HS and/or their kids don't play football.

WSHS didn’t get a new coach that produces a high number of D1 recruits.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Undisputed facts: At least 12 players on Hayfield Varsity are listed as playing for Freedom last year, as well as 3 transfers from private schools in MD and DC. (Note: actually 4)

There are also 7 new junior and senior players on Varsity who did not attend Hayfield last year.

That's 22 definite transfers who are new this year to Hayfield Varsity.

There are an additional 13 freshman listed on the Varsity team with no way of knowing where they came from. I have never seen an FCPS HS roster with 13 freshman on it. Even 1 freshman on Varsity is highly unusual. Speculation: At least some if not most or all of these kids probably play on the coach's private AAU team.

Sophomores are a mystery without a published Hayfield freshman roster from last year.

Finally, there are still a handful of players who were pulled off the roster at the last minute by VHSL who are still not eligible. No one knows how many or why they are barred from playing.

So, if Hayfield parents have been saying 33, its easy to see how they got up to that number. Its clearly more than 15. (And 15 transfers is an insane number!)

Re-upping the math for the person confused about the number of hand-picked recruits on Varsity.

Even if what that poster is says is true, that’s only 16 transfers. The other kids may have already been at the school, but just didn’t play football. Knowing a good coach is coming or that it’s an opportunity to put state championship on your resume could have very well attracted kids who weren’t previously interested.

[Anonymous]

Yes, completely plausible that a kid would have attended Hayfield for 3 years and then decides--as a senior--to play tackle football for the first time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Undisputed facts: At least 12 players on Hayfield Varsity are listed as playing for Freedom last year, as well as 3 transfers from private schools in MD and DC. (Note: actually 4)

There are also 7 new junior and senior players on Varsity who did not attend Hayfield last year.

That's 22 definite transfers who are new this year to Hayfield Varsity.

There are an additional 13 freshman listed on the Varsity team with no way of knowing where they came from. I have never seen an FCPS HS roster with 13 freshman on it. Even 1 freshman on Varsity is highly unusual. Speculation: At least some if not most or all of these kids probably play on the coach's private AAU team.

Sophomores are a mystery without a published Hayfield freshman roster from last year.

Finally, there are still a handful of players who were pulled off the roster at the last minute by VHSL who are still not eligible. No one knows how many or why they are barred from playing.

So, if Hayfield parents have been saying 33, its easy to see how they got up to that number. Its clearly more than 15. (And 15 transfers is an insane number!)

Re-upping the math for the person confused about the number of hand-picked recruits on Varsity.

You only know of 15. Those 7 could be people who moved (as could the 3 privates truly) As well as the others you cant account for. Hayfield has a lot of movement due to the military

15 is the number FCPS gave that transferred in wanting to play football. The superintendent herself said that in a public statement after the team was investigated due to the complaints made by supporters of white supremacy.

Where did you see that number reported by FCPS? All I saw was that a parent asked at the meeting and FCPS refused to
publicly answer.

We know its not 15 bc there are at least 12 who played for Freedom and 4 transfers from private schools, plus 7 juniors and seniors who never played for Hayfield before---and that's just what is publicly discernible from the rosters. That doesn't even touch the 13 freshman on Varsity or sophomores.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Undisputed facts: At least 12 players on Hayfield Varsity are listed as playing for Freedom last year, as well as 3 transfers from private schools in MD and DC. (Note: actually 4)

There are also 7 new junior and senior players on Varsity who did not attend Hayfield last year.

That's 22 definite transfers who are new this year to Hayfield Varsity.

There are an additional 13 freshman listed on the Varsity team with no way of knowing where they came from. I have never seen an FCPS HS roster with 13 freshman on it. Even 1 freshman on Varsity is highly unusual. Speculation: At least some if not most or all of these kids probably play on the coach's private AAU team.

Sophomores are a mystery without a published Hayfield freshman roster from last year.

Finally, there are still a handful of players who were pulled off the roster at the last minute by VHSL who are still not eligible. No one knows how many or why they are barred from playing.

So, if Hayfield parents have been saying 33, its easy to see how they got up to that number. Its clearly more than 15. (And 15 transfers is an insane number!)

Re-upping the math for the person confused about the number of hand-picked recruits on Varsity.

You only know of 15. Those 7 could be people who moved (as could the 3 privates truly) As well as the others you cant account for. Hayfield has a lot of movement due to the military

15 is the number FCPS gave that transferred in wanting to play football. The superintendent herself said that in a public statement after the team was investigated due to the complaints made by supporters of white supremacy.

Where did you see that number reported by FCPS? All I saw was that a parent asked at the meeting and FCPS refused to
publicly answer.

We know its not 15 bc there are at least 12 who played for Freedom and 4 transfers from private schools, plus 7 juniors and seniors who never played for Hayfield before---and that's just what is publicly discernible from the rosters. That doesn't even touch the 13 freshman on Varsity or sophomores.

https://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/fairfax_county/after-reid-cleared-hayfield-football-as-many-as-nine-of-15-transfers-deemed-ineligible/article_e3a9ee4a-6ba5-11ef-99db-eba9fe57be68.html

[Anonymous]

Transfer is not a dirty word. Plenty of kids transfer to FCPS schools, including Hayfield for AP or a language not offered or whatever. It isn't necessarily football related.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, completely plausible that a kid would have attended Hayfield for 3 years and then decides--as a senior--to play tackle football for the first time.

I have a kid who did this because he didn’t like his coach. Also Dug McDaniel did it and had a great senior year. I can see this happening if a bad program suddenly becomes a good program.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, completely plausible that a kid would have attended Hayfield for 3 years and then decides--as a senior--to play tackle football for the first time.

I have a kid who did this because he didn’t like his coach. Also Dug McDaniel did it and had a great senior year. I can see this happening if a bad program suddenly becomes a good program.

Irrelevant bc Hayfield didn't have a bad program.

No kid doesn't play tackle football at all for 3 years and then starts playing as a senior. Sorry, not buying it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, completely plausible that a kid would have attended Hayfield for 3 years and then decides--as a senior--to play tackle football for the first time.

I have a kid who did this because he didn’t like his coach. Also Dug McDaniel did it and had a great senior year. I can see this happening if a bad program suddenly becomes a good program.

Irrelevant bc Hayfield didn't have a bad program.

No kid doesn't play tackle football at all for 3 years and then starts playing as a senior. Sorry, not buying it.

Hayfield wasn’t good last year. They only beat teams that were awful and anytime they played a mediocre team, they lost by around 50.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, completely plausible that a kid would have attended Hayfield for 3 years and then decides--as a senior--to play tackle football for the first time.

I have a kid who did this because he didn’t like his coach. Also Dug McDaniel did it and had a great senior year. I can see this happening if a bad program suddenly becomes a good program.

Irrelevant bc Hayfield didn't have a bad program.

No kid doesn't play tackle football at all for 3 years and then starts playing as a senior. Sorry, not buying it.

Hayfield wasn’t good last year. They only beat teams that were awful and anytime they played a mediocre team, they lost by around 50.

So what? That doesn't mean it was a "bad program". You can win by a lot, like Overton, and still be a bad coach with bad sportsmanship who hires druggies. They could have lost every game and still been a better program than the current scandal-ridden s-show.

However, their record last year was 6-5, which makes it perfectly average. Last year, actual Hayfield players got to play in the games as well, and there were no scandals with drug dealers/possible pedophiles, thieves, charlatans, creepy cult religious people etc. Hayfield parents and students vastly preferred the status quo.