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10/30/2021 14:02

Subject: Re:[APS] Who is funding newly-incorporated APE

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Test to stay is a good idea. But kids 5+ will start to vaccinate in a week. What is the point of the effort/money? No one is going to quarantine any longer unless they are positive.

The precautionary principle should be that kids be in school, especially since we know vaccine hesitancy for adults was highest in the African American community (still is - https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/issue-brief/latest-data-on-covid-19-vaccinations-by-race-ethnicity/). It is the most equitable solution by far.

Another reason is this is an EUA, not a full approval, and some FDA panel members were very vocal it should not be mandated to go to school (which is essentially what you're doing if the option is get vaccinated with a non-fully approved vaccine or possibly stay out of school for 6+ days). 1 even abstained on the vote he was so opposed to it possibly being mandated.

Something like 2/3 of parents nationwide have concerns with vaccinating their healthy children considering it's not fully approved yet. That's a lot of kids who could be unnecessarily locked out of school if there's no test to stay. Those kids have no responsibility over the decisions of their parents and they should not be punished for a non-fully approved vaccine.

Here's Dr. Cody Meissner on the FDA panel this week (he voted to approve, but was very vocal about not mandating it):

It's fine not to take the vaccine, if that's your decision as precaution against (perceived) risks of a vaccine that is considered safe. But the consequence would be to quarantine, not lean on some elaborate and expensive strategy where everyone has to get tested all the time at all the schools in the system. That money should be used to hire teachers/tutors to tackle learning loss, not appease vaccine hesitancy. It's the same principle that should have been applied in keeping the schools open last year. If you're hesitant, that's okay. They could have stayed virtual. Same thing here. If you're hesitant to take the vaccine, that's okay. You can quarantine if you're exposed. We shouldn't foot the bill about someone's nervousness about a vaccine that is perfectly safe for everyone.

Hahah - you think they care about equity?!?

These are the same people who wanted schools closed last year, you see the equity damage in SOL and PALS scores. They don't care at all that some brown kids will be kept out of school for 6+ days. They live in their $1.5M+ houses in North Arlington and spend more on grocery deliveries from Whole Foods in 1 week that a family at a Title 1 school spends on groceries in 1 month.

This is all about curing these rich white people's neuroses and inability to contextualize risk, no matter what the consequence to poor kids.

Someone having trepidation about getting their healthy 5 to 11 year old while it's under EUA has scientific reasoning to have trepidation (and polls show this is the majority of parents).

The Pfizer trial for 5 to 11 year olds was 1,500 with 750 in the placebo. 3 in trial group got symptomatic COVID, 16 for placebo group. They did not test for asymptomatic positives. None in either group was hospitalized or developed MIS-C. 0 kids who were previously infected with COVID were reinfected. Here's the interview with the FDA panel member who abstained https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-10137849/FDA-advisory-committee-member-says-NO-evidence-children-need-COVID-19-vaccines.html. As Dr. Kurilla states, it's not even certain that the vaccine prevents transmission in this age group.

Here's Dr. Ruben on the FDA panel this week: