[APS] Who is funding newly-incorporated APE

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Anonymous wrote:Please explain which part is incorrect? Just saying this is “lies” is unhelpful.


Apparently the PP disliked the part where APE said "The Northam VDOE had intended to use the 2023 SOL revision to implement the Virginia Math Pathways Initiative (VMPI), which would have ended Algebra I, Geometry, and Algebra II and replaced them with blended math courses that all students in Grades 8-10 would take."

That's something that VMPI itself actually said....


Not accurate.



But...VDOE uploaded this when they were trying to backtrack on the part about acceleration. They literally DID say it.

The content from Algebra 1, Geometry, and Algebra 2 is not being eliminated by
VMPI, but rather the content of these courses will be blended into a seamless
progression of connected learning
. This encourages students to connect mathematical
concepts and develop a much deeper and more relevant understanding of each
concept within its context and relevance.


(https://www.vsba.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/VMPI-for-vdoe-website.pdf)


Yes, they were blending AGA. They weren't requiring students to take them in 8-10. It's misleading and pushes the RWNJ false narrative around advanced math. Still. In Feb 2022.


OK, OK, we get it. You're one of the parents who are convinced that this is totally and completely fake, and nothing we say will convince you to the countrary. But I'll just drop this here, from Henry County, a place that is impacted by VDOE but far from northern Virginia battles.

https://martinsvillebulletin.com/news/local/education/watch-now-henry-county-public-schools-will-overhaul-math-instruction-for-the-first-time-since/article_99a8f40a-9898-11eb-9c1d-ff2ec6c9d153.html



Seems like you - along with the RWNJs and APE - are stuck in early April 2021.

The question is why? Were you not following what happened after that? Or are you trying to push some kind of false narrative for an ulterior motive?



OK, so if you agree that this info was correct circa early April 2021, all you are opposed to in that entire multi-paragraph informational section is the fact that VMPI later clarified that "Grade 8 Math" and the like (which were called by their grades) could be taken other grades, even though that wasn't their original plan?

That's...a small complaint about a large body of helpful info.



At best, they are clueless.



Says the person that can’t identify a single falsehood. 🙄


Sorry you are having trouble following. They are pushing RWNJ false narrative around acceleration/advanced math.

Not a good look if they are trying to appear competent/nonpartisan.


What in the write-up is false?


They are *still* pushing RWNJ false narrative around acceleration/advanced math. Even after VMPI is dead.

What is that narrative? No one knows what you are taking about. Please spell it out and explain why it is incorrect.
If you want people to understand and support your point of view, you are doing a terrible job.


Did you really not follow any of the math initiative at all? Or the VA gubernatorial election?

APE said "that all students in Grades 8-10 would take" which is untrue because school systems would slice and dice up the curriculum as they deem fit to provide compressed/accelerated paths, just like they do today with Math 6-7-8, PA-A-G-A, etc.

Sure. Maybe they are sloppy and it was an error. But it just happens that it's the same "error" that the GOP has been pushing for the last 10 months? The same "error" they made themselves right before the election in the fall?

So they are either clueless or they have ulterior motives. Neither is a good look for an "informed/bipartisan" group.



What are you blathering about? The point is there was a movement for single tracking. . Here’s the language for context.

Northam VDOE had intended to use the 2023 SOL revision to implement the Virginia Math Pathways Initiative (VMPI), which would have ended Algebra I, Geometry, and Algebra II and replaced them with blended math courses that all students in Grades 8-10 would take. Governor Youngkin’s recent Executive Order ended VMPI. VDOE is asking for public feedback as it begins to revise the SOLs. Given the recent change away from VMPI and with VDOE reopening its planning, this is an excellent opportunity to convey your views on math instruction.
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Anonymous wrote:Please explain which part is incorrect? Just saying this is “lies” is unhelpful.


Apparently the PP disliked the part where APE said "The Northam VDOE had intended to use the 2023 SOL revision to implement the Virginia Math Pathways Initiative (VMPI), which would have ended Algebra I, Geometry, and Algebra II and replaced them with blended math courses that all students in Grades 8-10 would take."

That's something that VMPI itself actually said....


Not accurate.



But...VDOE uploaded this when they were trying to backtrack on the part about acceleration. They literally DID say it.

The content from Algebra 1, Geometry, and Algebra 2 is not being eliminated by
VMPI, but rather the content of these courses will be blended into a seamless
progression of connected learning
. This encourages students to connect mathematical
concepts and develop a much deeper and more relevant understanding of each
concept within its context and relevance.


(https://www.vsba.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/VMPI-for-vdoe-website.pdf)


Yes, they were blending AGA. They weren't requiring students to take them in 8-10. It's misleading and pushes the RWNJ false narrative around advanced math. Still. In Feb 2022.


OK, OK, we get it. You're one of the parents who are convinced that this is totally and completely fake, and nothing we say will convince you to the countrary. But I'll just drop this here, from Henry County, a place that is impacted by VDOE but far from northern Virginia battles.

https://martinsvillebulletin.com/news/local/education/watch-now-henry-county-public-schools-will-overhaul-math-instruction-for-the-first-time-since/article_99a8f40a-9898-11eb-9c1d-ff2ec6c9d153.html



Seems like you - along with the RWNJs and APE - are stuck in early April 2021.

The question is why? Were you not following what happened after that? Or are you trying to push some kind of false narrative for an ulterior motive?



OK, so if you agree that this info was correct circa early April 2021, all you are opposed to in that entire multi-paragraph informational section is the fact that VMPI later clarified that "Grade 8 Math" and the like (which were called by their grades) could be taken other grades, even though that wasn't their original plan?

That's...a small complaint about a large body of helpful info.



At best, they are clueless.



Says the person that can’t identify a single falsehood. 🙄


Sorry you are having trouble following. They are pushing RWNJ false narrative around acceleration/advanced math.

Not a good look if they are trying to appear competent/nonpartisan.


What in the write-up is false?


They are *still* pushing RWNJ false narrative around acceleration/advanced math. Even after VMPI is dead.

What is that narrative? No one knows what you are taking about. Please spell it out and explain why it is incorrect.
If you want people to understand and support your point of view, you are doing a terrible job.


Did you really not follow any of the math initiative at all? Or the VA gubernatorial election?

APE said "that all students in Grades 8-10 would take" which is untrue because school systems would slice and dice up the curriculum as they deem fit to provide compressed/accelerated paths, just like they do today with Math 6-7-8, PA-A-G-A, etc.

Sure. Maybe they are sloppy and it was an error. But it just happens that it's the same "error" that the GOP has been pushing for the last 10 months? The same "error" they made themselves right before the election in the fall?

So they are either clueless or they have ulterior motives. Neither is a good look for an "informed/bipartisan" group.



What are you blathering about? The point is there was a movement for single tracking. . Here’s the language for context.

Northam VDOE had intended to use the 2023 SOL revision to implement the Virginia Math Pathways Initiative (VMPI), which would have ended Algebra I, Geometry, and Algebra II and replaced them with blended math courses that all students in Grades 8-10 would take. Governor Youngkin’s recent Executive Order ended VMPI. VDOE is asking for public feedback as it begins to revise the SOLs. Given the recent change away from VMPI and with VDOE reopening its planning, this is an excellent opportunity to convey your views on math instruction.



"A movement"? JFC. No, there wasn't a "movement". It was a topic discussed early on that was killed almost a year ago.

The comment was incorrect. Either because they were clueless or intentionally pushing RWNJ talking points.

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Anonymous wrote:Please explain which part is incorrect? Just saying this is “lies” is unhelpful.


Apparently the PP disliked the part where APE said "The Northam VDOE had intended to use the 2023 SOL revision to implement the Virginia Math Pathways Initiative (VMPI), which would have ended Algebra I, Geometry, and Algebra II and replaced them with blended math courses that all students in Grades 8-10 would take."

That's something that VMPI itself actually said....


Not accurate.



But...VDOE uploaded this when they were trying to backtrack on the part about acceleration. They literally DID say it.

The content from Algebra 1, Geometry, and Algebra 2 is not being eliminated by
VMPI, but rather the content of these courses will be blended into a seamless
progression of connected learning
. This encourages students to connect mathematical
concepts and develop a much deeper and more relevant understanding of each
concept within its context and relevance.


(https://www.vsba.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/VMPI-for-vdoe-website.pdf)


Yes, they were blending AGA. They weren't requiring students to take them in 8-10. It's misleading and pushes the RWNJ false narrative around advanced math. Still. In Feb 2022.


OK, OK, we get it. You're one of the parents who are convinced that this is totally and completely fake, and nothing we say will convince you to the countrary. But I'll just drop this here, from Henry County, a place that is impacted by VDOE but far from northern Virginia battles.

https://martinsvillebulletin.com/news/local/education/watch-now-henry-county-public-schools-will-overhaul-math-instruction-for-the-first-time-since/article_99a8f40a-9898-11eb-9c1d-ff2ec6c9d153.html



Seems like you - along with the RWNJs and APE - are stuck in early April 2021.

The question is why? Were you not following what happened after that? Or are you trying to push some kind of false narrative for an ulterior motive?



OK, so if you agree that this info was correct circa early April 2021, all you are opposed to in that entire multi-paragraph informational section is the fact that VMPI later clarified that "Grade 8 Math" and the like (which were called by their grades) could be taken other grades, even though that wasn't their original plan?

That's...a small complaint about a large body of helpful info.



At best, they are clueless.



Says the person that can’t identify a single falsehood. 🙄


Sorry you are having trouble following. They are pushing RWNJ false narrative around acceleration/advanced math.

Not a good look if they are trying to appear competent/nonpartisan.


What in the write-up is false?


They are *still* pushing RWNJ false narrative around acceleration/advanced math. Even after VMPI is dead.

What is that narrative? No one knows what you are taking about. Please spell it out and explain why it is incorrect.
If you want people to understand and support your point of view, you are doing a terrible job.


Did you really not follow any of the math initiative at all? Or the VA gubernatorial election?

APE said "that all students in Grades 8-10 would take" which is untrue because school systems would slice and dice up the curriculum as they deem fit to provide compressed/accelerated paths, just like they do today with Math 6-7-8, PA-A-G-A, etc.

Sure. Maybe they are sloppy and it was an error. But it just happens that it's the same "error" that the GOP has been pushing for the last 10 months? The same "error" they made themselves right before the election in the fall?

So they are either clueless or they have ulterior motives. Neither is a good look for an "informed/bipartisan" group.



What are you blathering about? The point is there was a movement for single tracking. . Here’s the language for context.

Northam VDOE had intended to use the 2023 SOL revision to implement the Virginia Math Pathways Initiative (VMPI), which would have ended Algebra I, Geometry, and Algebra II and replaced them with blended math courses that all students in Grades 8-10 would take. Governor Youngkin’s recent Executive Order ended VMPI. VDOE is asking for public feedback as it begins to revise the SOLs. Given the recent change away from VMPI and with VDOE reopening its planning, this is an excellent opportunity to convey your views on math instruction.



"A movement"? JFC. No, there wasn't a "movement". It was a topic discussed early on that was killed almost a year ago.

The comment was incorrect. Either because they were clueless or intentionally pushing RWNJ talking points.




- except it was not killed off a year ago. Everyone knows the DOE is still trying to implement as much of VMPI as they can, through the SOL revision.

Why are you so vehemently pushing the false narrative “VMPI was killed off; nothing to worry about here folks!” ??

Trying to provide cover and gaslight people?
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Anonymous wrote:Please explain which part is incorrect? Just saying this is “lies” is unhelpful.


Apparently the PP disliked the part where APE said "The Northam VDOE had intended to use the 2023 SOL revision to implement the Virginia Math Pathways Initiative (VMPI), which would have ended Algebra I, Geometry, and Algebra II and replaced them with blended math courses that all students in Grades 8-10 would take."

That's something that VMPI itself actually said....


Not accurate.



But...VDOE uploaded this when they were trying to backtrack on the part about acceleration. They literally DID say it.

The content from Algebra 1, Geometry, and Algebra 2 is not being eliminated by
VMPI, but rather the content of these courses will be blended into a seamless
progression of connected learning
. This encourages students to connect mathematical
concepts and develop a much deeper and more relevant understanding of each
concept within its context and relevance.


(https://www.vsba.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/VMPI-for-vdoe-website.pdf)


Yes, they were blending AGA. They weren't requiring students to take them in 8-10. It's misleading and pushes the RWNJ false narrative around advanced math. Still. In Feb 2022.


OK, OK, we get it. You're one of the parents who are convinced that this is totally and completely fake, and nothing we say will convince you to the countrary. But I'll just drop this here, from Henry County, a place that is impacted by VDOE but far from northern Virginia battles.

https://martinsvillebulletin.com/news/local/education/watch-now-henry-county-public-schools-will-overhaul-math-instruction-for-the-first-time-since/article_99a8f40a-9898-11eb-9c1d-ff2ec6c9d153.html



Seems like you - along with the RWNJs and APE - are stuck in early April 2021.

The question is why? Were you not following what happened after that? Or are you trying to push some kind of false narrative for an ulterior motive?



OK, so if you agree that this info was correct circa early April 2021, all you are opposed to in that entire multi-paragraph informational section is the fact that VMPI later clarified that "Grade 8 Math" and the like (which were called by their grades) could be taken other grades, even though that wasn't their original plan?

That's...a small complaint about a large body of helpful info.



At best, they are clueless.



Says the person that can’t identify a single falsehood. 🙄


Sorry you are having trouble following. They are pushing RWNJ false narrative around acceleration/advanced math.

Not a good look if they are trying to appear competent/nonpartisan.


What in the write-up is false?


They are *still* pushing RWNJ false narrative around acceleration/advanced math. Even after VMPI is dead.

What is that narrative? No one knows what you are taking about. Please spell it out and explain why it is incorrect.
If you want people to understand and support your point of view, you are doing a terrible job.


Did you really not follow any of the math initiative at all? Or the VA gubernatorial election?

APE said "that all students in Grades 8-10 would take" which is untrue because school systems would slice and dice up the curriculum as they deem fit to provide compressed/accelerated paths, just like they do today with Math 6-7-8, PA-A-G-A, etc.

Sure. Maybe they are sloppy and it was an error. But it just happens that it's the same "error" that the GOP has been pushing for the last 10 months? The same "error" they made themselves right before the election in the fall?

So they are either clueless or they have ulterior motives. Neither is a good look for an "informed/bipartisan" group.



What are you blathering about? The point is there was a movement for single tracking. . Here’s the language for context.

Northam VDOE had intended to use the 2023 SOL revision to implement the Virginia Math Pathways Initiative (VMPI), which would have ended Algebra I, Geometry, and Algebra II and replaced them with blended math courses that all students in Grades 8-10 would take. Governor Youngkin’s recent Executive Order ended VMPI. VDOE is asking for public feedback as it begins to revise the SOLs. Given the recent change away from VMPI and with VDOE reopening its planning, this is an excellent opportunity to convey your views on math instruction.



"A movement"? JFC. No, there wasn't a "movement". It was a topic discussed early on that was killed almost a year ago.

The comment was incorrect. Either because they were clueless or intentionally pushing RWNJ talking points.




- except it was not killed off a year ago. Everyone knows the DOE is still trying to implement as much of VMPI as they can, through the SOL revision.

Why are you so vehemently pushing the false narrative “VMPI was killed off; nothing to worry about here folks!” ??

Trying to provide cover and gaslight people?



Go away, Republican liar.

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