[APS] Who is funding newly-incorporated APE

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Anonymous wrote:Fascinating that the newsletter just . . . stopped. No scoreboard?

So are they going to throw in a last-minute plug for Y man or what?

They're for sure still working on things. Glad they only publish the newsletter when they have something important to say.

No way APE endorses Y. Inconsistent with MT's pledge for the caucus and would effectively be disqualifying for any future caucus.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a high school teacher. Everything they’re talking about now- like small class sizes- sounds good to me, but I’m having a hard time forgetting that they would’ve had me work with 150 teens without a vaccine. I can’t get over that:

This is a revision of history. Schools were already phasing back students throughout the country long before vaccines were available.

That's the point. Just because TX and FL didn't care about teachers before vaccine availability didn't and doesn't justify the same outcome here. APE didn't care then, so it's hard to get over that.

Exactly. Those barbarian Europeans had kids in class, many unmasked, and we needed schools. By January, even NYC and the entire New York Metro area had their kids back in class, but our School Board stayed strong and ignored the yellers. I'm so proud of our Arlington government for how long we closed schools.

Stop lying.

Many schools in Europe had distance learning last year as well.

In Jan 2021, 100+ school buildings in NYC were closed due to positive cases. And MSs and HSs buildings weren't even open until Feb/Mar.

NYC ESs reopened in November! APS elementary student attended in-person the equivalent of 12 out of 180 days last year. That's really unbelievable to people elsewhere in the United States (except on the West Coast).

Schools throughout suburban New York City were open all year last year. Check Westchester County and New Jersey. Who are those horrible New York and New Jersey politicians? Were they secretly Republican?

I'd love to see any other European country where little children attended school the equivalent of 12 out of 180 days. If there were closures, they were very short term. Feel free to look it up though.

And many schools were still using remote instruction. APS was not an outlier.

Actually, very, very few were by January outside of the West Coast, but keep telling yourself that. The effects on equity have been horrible, and closed school activists are to blame.

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And many schools were still using remote instruction. APS was not an outlier.

Actually, very, very few were by January outside of the West Coast, but keep telling yourself that. The effects on equity have been horrible, and closed school activists are to blame.

Trying to rewrite history?

From: https://info.burbio.com

January 4, 2021
% US K-12 students attending "virtual-only" schools = 53.4% (from 50.8% last week)

February 1, 2021 - The week that APS sent kids in career/CTE back to classroom:
% US K-12 students attending "virtual-only" schools = 38.2% (from 42% last week)

March 1, 2021 - The week that APS sent SN and K-2 back to classroom:
% US K-12 students attending "virtual-only" schools = 27.5% (from 31.1% last week)

etc.


APS was NOT an outlier and started send kids back to the classroom around the same time as MANY other school systems.

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And many schools were still using remote instruction. APS was not an outlier.

Actually, very, very few were by January outside of the West Coast, but keep telling yourself that. The effects on equity have been horrible, and closed school activists are to blame.

Trying to rewrite history?

From: https://info.burbio.com

January 4, 2021
% US K-12 students attending "virtual-only" schools = 53.4% (from 50.8% last week)

February 1, 2021 - The week that APS sent kids in career/CTE back to classroom:
% US K-12 students attending "virtual-only" schools = 38.2% (from 42% last week)

March 1, 2021 - The week that APS sent SN and K-2 back to classroom:
% US K-12 students attending "virtual-only" schools = 27.5% (from 31.1% last week)

etc.


APS was NOT an outlier and started send kids back to the classroom around the same time as MANY other school systems.

Now exclude the entire West Coast from that analysis. Those numbers are so skewed because of what was going on on the West Coast. Almost all of my coworkers are in New York City, Boston and their suburbs and were absolutely shocked/appalled with what was going on here last year, especially when we only went back 2 days in-person (NYC ES kids went back in November).

APS ES kids got the equivalent of 12 days (12 days) out of 180 last year in in-person learning. That is likely in the bottom 10% of the entire state of Virginia, which was the 44th in the nation for in-person learning.

The fact that closed school activists are still defending this sh*t is what's really appalling though. Talk about people who can't ever admit they were wrong. They're just like Trump.

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And many schools were still using remote instruction. APS was not an outlier.

Actually, very, very few were by January outside of the West Coast, but keep telling yourself that. The effects on equity have been horrible, and closed school activists are to blame.

Trying to rewrite history?

From: https://info.burbio.com

January 4, 2021
% US K-12 students attending "virtual-only" schools = 53.4% (from 50.8% last week)

February 1, 2021 - The week that APS sent kids in career/CTE back to classroom:
% US K-12 students attending "virtual-only" schools = 38.2% (from 42% last week)

March 1, 2021 - The week that APS sent SN and K-2 back to classroom:
% US K-12 students attending "virtual-only" schools = 27.5% (from 31.1% last week)

etc.


APS was NOT an outlier and started send kids back to the classroom around the same time as MANY other school systems.

Now exclude the entire West Coast from that analysis. Those numbers are so skewed because of what was going on on the West Coast. Almost all of my coworkers are in New York City, Boston and their suburbs and were absolutely shocked/appalled with what was going on here last year, especially when we only went back 2 days in-person (NYC ES kids went back in November).

APS ES kids got the equivalent of 12 days (12 days) out of 180 last year in in-person learning. That is likely in the bottom 10% of the entire state of Virginia, which was the 44th in the nation for in-person learning.

The fact that closed school activists are still defending this sh*t is what's really appalling though. Talk about people who can't ever admit they were wrong. They're just like Trump.

So much butthurt when you get called out on your repeated lies.


FACTS:

APS wasn't an outlier.

53.4% of US kids only had virtual option in Jan 2021.

NYC MSs and HSs didn't open buildings up until Feb/Mar. 100+ ESs were closed in Jan.

Many schools in Europe had distance learning last year as well.

[Anonymous]

Not an outlier at all...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not an outlier at all...

What's those 2 white spots on the East Coast vs. almost all of the other states in the region? Oh, it's Virginia and Maryland! The only reason Illinois is white was because of Chicago Teachers Union (and they went back before APS!).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not an outlier at all...

What's those 2 white spots on the East Coast vs. almost all of the other states in the region? Oh, it's Virginia and Maryland! The only reason Illinois is white was because of Chicago Teachers Union (and they went back before APS!).

And WV and NJ. And conveniently omitting the MANY other states that were <50%.

50% of kids were still virtual when APS rolled out the plan and brought back kids right along with many other schools. AHEAD of other schools.

Truth hurts. APS wasn't an outlier.

[Anonymous]

I just can't with APE with their anti mask crazies.

I thought APE wanted open schools? Not going to keep those school open if they get rid of masks and quarantines like APE wants.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just can't with APE with their anti mask crazies.

I thought APE wanted open schools? Not going to keep those school open if they get rid of masks and quarantines like APE wants.

Yeah, those Europeans are disgusting too. Most of them have gotten rid of masks and quarantines FOR CLOSE CONTACTS (not for people with COVID).

And APE wanting test-to-stay, when only 1.6% of close contacts ever test positive per studies and it being used in many places in the country. The gall.

[Anonymous]

APE does make it happen though - look at APS and test to stay

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Anonymous wrote:APE does make it happen though - look at APS and test to stay

Test to stay is a good idea. But kids 5+ will start to vaccinate in a week. What is the point of the effort/money? No one is going to quarantine any longer unless they are positive.

[Anonymous]

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Test to stay is a good idea. But kids 5+ will start to vaccinate in a week. What is the point of the effort/money? No one is going to quarantine any longer unless they are positive.

The precautionary principle should be that kids be in school, especially since we know vaccine hesitancy for adults was highest in the African American community (still is - https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/issue-brief/latest-data-on-covid-19-vaccinations-by-race-ethnicity/). It is the most equitable solution by far.

Another reason is this is an EUA, not a full approval, and some FDA panel members were very vocal it should not be mandated to go to school (which is essentially what you're doing if the option is get vaccinated with a non-fully approved vaccine or possibly stay out of school for 6+ days). 1 even abstained on the vote he was so opposed to it possibly being mandated.

Something like 2/3 of parents nationwide have concerns with vaccinating their healthy children considering it's not fully approved yet. That's a lot of kids who could be unnecessarily locked out of school if there's no test to stay. Those kids have no responsibility over the decisions of their parents and they should not be punished for a non-fully approved vaccine.

Here's Dr. Cody Meissner on the FDA panel this week (he voted to approve, but was very vocal about not mandating it):

[Anonymous]

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Test to stay is a good idea. But kids 5+ will start to vaccinate in a week. What is the point of the effort/money? No one is going to quarantine any longer unless they are positive.

The precautionary principle should be that kids be in school, especially since we know vaccine hesitancy for adults was highest in the African American community (still is - https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/issue-brief/latest-data-on-covid-19-vaccinations-by-race-ethnicity/). It is the most equitable solution by far.

Another reason is this is an EUA, not a full approval, and some FDA panel members were very vocal it should not be mandated to go to school (which is essentially what you're doing if the option is get vaccinated with a non-fully approved vaccine or possibly stay out of school for 6+ days). 1 even abstained on the vote he was so opposed to it possibly being mandated.

Something like 2/3 of parents nationwide have concerns with vaccinating their healthy children considering it's not fully approved yet. That's a lot of kids who could be unnecessarily locked out of school if there's no test to stay. Those kids have no responsibility over the decisions of their parents and they should not be punished for a non-fully approved vaccine.

Here's Dr. Cody Meissner on the FDA panel this week (he voted to approve, but was very vocal about not mandating it):

It's fine not to take the vaccine, if that's your decision as precaution against (perceived) risks of a vaccine that is considered safe. But the consequence would be to quarantine, not lean on some elaborate and expensive strategy where everyone has to get tested all the time at all the schools in the system. That money should be used to hire teachers/tutors to tackle learning loss, not appease vaccine hesitancy. It's the same principle that should have been applied in keeping the schools open last year. If you're hesitant, that's okay. They could have stayed virtual. Same thing here. If you're hesitant to take the vaccine, that's okay. You can quarantine if you're exposed. We shouldn't foot the bill about someone's nervousness about a vaccine that is perfectly safe for everyone.

[Anonymous]

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Test to stay is a good idea. But kids 5+ will start to vaccinate in a week. What is the point of the effort/money? No one is going to quarantine any longer unless they are positive.

The precautionary principle should be that kids be in school, especially since we know vaccine hesitancy for adults was highest in the African American community (still is - https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/issue-brief/latest-data-on-covid-19-vaccinations-by-race-ethnicity/). It is the most equitable solution by far.

Another reason is this is an EUA, not a full approval, and some FDA panel members were very vocal it should not be mandated to go to school (which is essentially what you're doing if the option is get vaccinated with a non-fully approved vaccine or possibly stay out of school for 6+ days). 1 even abstained on the vote he was so opposed to it possibly being mandated.

Something like 2/3 of parents nationwide have concerns with vaccinating their healthy children considering it's not fully approved yet. That's a lot of kids who could be unnecessarily locked out of school if there's no test to stay. Those kids have no responsibility over the decisions of their parents and they should not be punished for a non-fully approved vaccine.

Here's Dr. Cody Meissner on the FDA panel this week (he voted to approve, but was very vocal about not mandating it):

It's fine not to take the vaccine, if that's your decision as precaution against (perceived) risks of a vaccine that is considered safe. But the consequence would be to quarantine, not lean on some elaborate and expensive strategy where everyone has to get tested all the time at all the schools in the system. That money should be used to hire teachers/tutors to tackle learning loss, not appease vaccine hesitancy. It's the same principle that should have been applied in keeping the schools open last year. If you're hesitant, that's okay. They could have stayed virtual. Same thing here. If you're hesitant to take the vaccine, that's okay. You can quarantine if you're exposed. We shouldn't foot the bill about someone's nervousness about a vaccine that is perfectly safe for everyone.

Hahah - you think they care about equity?!?

These are the same people who wanted schools closed last year, you see the equity damage in SOL and PALS scores. They don't care at all that some brown kids will be kept out of school for 6+ days. They live in their $1.5M+ houses in North Arlington and spend more on grocery deliveries from Whole Foods in 1 week that a family at a Title 1 school spends on groceries in 1 month.

This is all about curing these rich white people's neuroses and inability to contextualize risk, no matter what the consequence to poor kids.