Travel Soccer teams around NOVA let's discuss

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There were some really great posts about soccer development yesterday..and then I open today to 2 pages of frantic, type A girl mom's going nuts about DA, encl, FCV (where the f@ck is FCV?). Sigh. This is how they stay in business. Wave a shiny carrot.

Sorry...would you rather talk about bio-banding.

1st touch perhaps?

Come man...big changes coming. If you want your kid to be better than practice with them...now move on

Anyone got info on WS DA?

[Anonymous]

How will Foley's departure affect FCV?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Basic Question . . . . . . why does it seem to be taken as common knowledge in this forum that the FCV parents and club are crazy? Are they different/worse then McLean ECNL families?

. . . . . or, is this due to some comparison to the more normal parents of Loudoun soccer?

I don't have a dog in the fight yet, but makes me think I never want to take my DD to FCV in a few years. We don't belong to any of these mentioned clubs, but very curious all the same. thanks[/quotes

You dont? Then how did just make a comparison.

Hmmmm . . . that's pretty easy . . . because we play McLean all the time and they are the next closet ECNL club to FCV. As for Loudoun, people on this board have mentioned them as somehow normal and scared to death of some merger with FCV. What story is their on FCV that makes it such a crazy place? Is there any truth? You can compare them to Bethesda ECNL for all I care.

[Anonymous]

So how does the DA work as far as games? I know ECNL girls travel regionally. Will the new WS DA teams travel even further than ECNL?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Basic Question . . . . . . why does it seem to be taken as common knowledge in this forum that the FCV parents and club are crazy? Are they different/worse then McLean ECNL families?

. . . . . or, is this due to some comparison to the more normal parents of Loudoun soccer?

I don't have a dog in the fight yet, but makes me think I never want to take my DD to FCV in a few years. We don't belong to any of these mentioned clubs, but very curious all the same. thanks

LOL

Mclean parents are crazy
FCV parents are crazy
Loudoun parents are normal

Followed by a long disclaimer that youre not associated with either club.....you can't be serious!

Get over it joker.. . . McLean was clearly notoneway or the other, thenormal on Loudoun should have had quptes around it to help people like you with the sarcasm..... this board has made clear that their is nothing alleged normal about Loudoun in terms of its apparent FCV issues.

Just be quiet if you don't know . . .. thank you . . .so what is the deal on fcv? Any truth?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Basic Question . . . . . . why does it seem to be taken as common knowledge in this forum that the FCV parents and club are crazy? Are they different/worse then McLean ECNL families?

. . . . . or, is this due to some comparison to the more normal parents of Loudoun soccer?

I don't have a dog in the fight yet, but makes me think I never want to take my DD to FCV in a few years. We don't belong to any of these mentioned clubs, but very curious all the same. thanks

Lol

1. Have you seen the VYS thread?

2. This is by far the most popular thread in the Sports and Fitness forum followed by the VYS thread. Clearly there are enough crazy soccer parents all over.

1) yes
2) within this thread, the statement has been made repeat edly recently that the FCV club is nothing but trouble of some sorts due to the parents and that, e.g., Loudoun would not want to merge with them. Now a poster is calling them crazy again and glad they are not coming to VDA, BRYC, etc.

What's the basis? Not asking you if you don't know . . .

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Basic Question . . . . . . why does it seem to be taken as common knowledge in this forum that the FCV parents and club are crazy? Are they different/worse then McLean ECNL families?

. . . . . or, is this due to some comparison to the more normal parents of Loudoun soccer?

I don't have a dog in the fight yet, but makes me think I never want to take my DD to FCV in a few years. We don't belong to any of these mentioned clubs, but very curious all the same. thanks

LOL

Mclean parents are crazy
FCV parents are crazy
Loudoun parents are normal

Followed by a long disclaimer that youre not associated with either club.....you can't be serious!

Get over it joker.. . . McLean was clearly notoneway or the other, thenormal on Loudoun should have had quptes around it to help people like you with the sarcasm..... this board has made clear that their is nothing alleged normal about Loudoun in terms of its apparent FCV issues.

Just be quiet if you don't know . . .. thank you . . .so what is the deal on fcv? Any truth?

Loudoun has FCV issues because the staff have been telling their parents for years that FCV is terrible in hopes of not losing kids to ecnl. Truth is...its all Loudoun SC propaganda...and the parents bought it for years

I've been around all three clubs mentioned above. All the parents are the same...some are intense. ...some don't pay attention...all are protective when it comes to their kids...but if you think you can classify a whole group of people based on a few positive or negative interaction then you need to do some soul searching.

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I was at the FCV meeting last night. ECNL was shown on the girls' program org chart slide as TBD - they explained that as far as FCV is concerned, they've met/continue to meet the requirements to be a member club and haven't yet been told by ECNL that they're out. I didn't perceive that ECNL was 'dangled out there as a shiny carrot.' I think most of us know that more than likely, FCV won't be a part of ECNL next year, and that FCV views the transition to the Girls Development Academy as its first priority right now. Maybe it's not all as sinister as some on this site would like it to be. If you're in Virginia and would like your daughter to play in the ECNL, you're looking at McLean and BRYC. If you want GDA, you're looking at Wash Spirit, VDA or FCV. What's tricky is what's the best option for top level players who are in or entering the college recruiting phase? It will be interesting to see if GDA can launch and effectively compete with ECNL. I can't imagine college coaches won't show up at both GDA and ECNL showcases if there's talent in both places (which I think there will be). So if that assumption is right, then you have to look at coaching, playing time, training, location, fit, etc. While the travel soccer scene feels like a crazy frantic mess right now, at least we can't say we don't have options here in the DMV...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a Loudoun parent and I would take my daughters to anyone but FCV. I don't want anything to do with that club. Some of the stories coming from FCV parents are unbelievable. Coaches not showing up for games. Not helping players improve their game after committing to colleges. No thank you

Yup, all true.

Can you two posters please provide something more specific??? I keep hearing these general statements.

- Sounds like this could apply to several clubs, but is there something unique to FCV that would in your two opinions move it down the list of elite options compared to say a BRYC, which I haven't heard a negative about on this board.

- And no, my DD is not at BRYC. Would be nice if you two could tell me why in your opinion some other club doesn't have these problems. ....just because one of you is from Loudoun doesn't mean I will discount it all, or believe it all, either. . . . .but everyone is talking about FCV now.

[Anonymous]

Parent propaganda

The one or two VDA parent saying they don't want FCV kids coming to their club are the one or two parents who are worried that a influx of talent from an outside club may push their kids off the roster.

FCV and Loudoun parents know that a merger means kids will be looking for new homes...and thus longer travel time...Lots of uncertainty

It's all goes back to parents jockeying for their kids best intrest.

A lot of this could be resolved if WS put together a third real option.

Just my opinion

[Anonymous]

I'll take a shot at why FCV parents are considered more "crazy" by other parents, with the caveat that, having a daughter on a very competitive team, and having been on sidelines with the parents of many of the top teams in her age group at some point, almost every top level team has a least a few over-the-top parents on it.

FCV (the club) has had and currently has some very intense coaches. Examples range from lecturing players for a half-hour or more after a loss to stories of poor performing players being punished/embarrassed at practices. FCV also has a reputation of heavily recruiting top players much more than other area clubs. As a result, you end up with a higher concentration of the type of parents that are willing to subject their kids to that kind of coaching and with parents you are more likely to succumb to sales pitches about how FCV is the only club that will enable little Mia to reach the pinnacle of youth soccer. And that type of parent is the same type that is more likely to take losing as a personal affront, to yell abuse at referees, to make comments to opposing players, and to gossip/critique their kid's teammates.

Having said that, there's also gossip that there have been parents that were too much even for FCV and which were asked to find another club for their kid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'll take a shot at why FCV parents are considered more "crazy" by other parents, with the caveat that, having a daughter on a very competitive team, and having been on sidelines with the parents of many of the top teams in her age group at some point, almost every top level team has a least a few over-the-top parents on it.

FCV (the club) has had and currently has some very intense coaches. Examples range from lecturing players for a half-hour or more after a loss to stories of poor performing players being punished/embarrassed at practices. FCV also has a reputation of heavily recruiting top players much more than other area clubs. As a result, you end up with a higher concentration of the type of parents that are willing to subject their kids to that kind of coaching and with parents you are more likely to succumb to sales pitches about how FCV is the only club that will enable little Mia to reach the pinnacle of youth soccer. And that type of parent is the same type that is more likely to take losing as a personal affront, to yell abuse at referees, to make comments to opposing players, and to gossip/critique their kid's teammates.

Having said that, there's also gossip that there have been parents that were too much even for FCV and which were asked to find another club for their kid.

LOL

I love these "I've heard" comments.

"I don't know, it is what good people, smart people are saying. Literally, hundreds of FCV kids have been yelled and screamed at. It's a disaster. FCV coaches so mean....SAD..."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'll take a shot at why FCV parents are considered more "crazy" by other parents, with the caveat that, having a daughter on a very competitive team, and having been on sidelines with the parents of many of the top teams in her age group at some point, almost every top level team has a least a few over-the-top parents on it.

FCV (the club) has had and currently has some very intense coaches. Examples range from lecturing players for a half-hour or more after a loss to stories of poor performing players being punished/embarrassed at practices. FCV also has a reputation of heavily recruiting top players much more than other area clubs. As a result, you end up with a higher concentration of the type of parents that are willing to subject their kids to that kind of coaching and with parents you are more likely to succumb to sales pitches about how FCV is the only club that will enable little Mia to reach the pinnacle of youth soccer. And that type of parent is the same type that is more likely to take losing as a personal affront, to yell abuse at referees, to make comments to opposing players, and to gossip/critique their kid's teammates.

Having said that, there's also gossip that there have been parents that were too much even for FCV and which were asked to find another club for their kid.

Gossip...girl please.....lol

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'll take a shot at why FCV parents are considered more "crazy" by other parents, with the caveat that, having a daughter on a very competitive team, and having been on sidelines with the parents of many of the top teams in her age group at some point, almost every top level team has a least a few over-the-top parents on it.

FCV (the club) has had and currently has some very intense coaches. Examples range from lecturing players for a half-hour or more after a loss to stories of poor performing players being punished/embarrassed at practices. FCV also has a reputation of heavily recruiting top players much more than other area clubs. As a result, you end up with a higher concentration of the type of parents that are willing to subject their kids to that kind of coaching and with parents you are more likely to succumb to sales pitches about how FCV is the only club that will enable little Mia to reach the pinnacle of youth soccer. And that type of parent is the same type that is more likely to take losing as a personal affront, to yell abuse at referees, to make comments to opposing players, and to gossip/critique their kid's teammates.

Having said that, there's also gossip that there have been parents that were too much even for FCV and which were asked to find another club for their kid.

Thanks.
I don't view your post as a bash, but just the same sort of impressions that parents share on sidelines about many, many clubs.
It is just interesting to get at least one person's impression given all this discussion of FCV in the context of all the previous negative posts about them.
You have to take every thing with a grain of salt, but good to have at least someone's opinions.
We have been at several clubs with several different children doing their own things, and the culture and parents at each had some consistent differences.
I can see your point about FCV being a magnet for attracting a certain type of parent, but would of course need to gather more information to make my own opinion.
Thanks again.

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Any word on VDA? Teams forming? Invites? Etc