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Anonymous wrote:They really nailed it with the increase in Chantilly to 127% without modulars! It takes a certain skill to undertake a multi year boundary study to reduce over-crowding and increase the enrollment at the MOST overcrowded school. Crowning achievement!

Chill out. We all know or should know that Chantilly will shed a lot of kids with the Western boundary adjustments.

Not that many - last I saw it was only Chantilly Highlands zoned for Western. Honestly do no see their path unless they are serious about two stepping this by splitting CH to Western and some kids to Westfields. Meanwhile they tell the Western zoned kids in CH that they can definitely attend Chantilly. At 127% occupancy.

Oak Hill also includes Franklin Farm west of FFX County Parkway. It is a sizeable portion. But, I think they plan to move some neighborhoods on the south side of 50 to Westfield. Likely those who live near Wegmans. Some of those are still Chantilly boundary.

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Anonymous wrote:Who is politically connected and lives in the tiny area moved from FHS to overcrowd CHS even more? How bizarre.

+1,000 adding more kids to Chantilly?? Totally ridiculous.

I went to chantilly and regretted it.

That's why I'm fighting the Western High School fight with parents who want to move.

Chantilly was awful, and despite being a community, the staff have loose lips and are not afraid to throw other staff under the bus; students were constantly involved in drama, with some dramas being so severe they required administrative intervention; organizational challenges at the school level were prevalent, and abusive staff are extant at the school even with staffing changes in occurrence.

I had some of the laziest staff I could possibly have, where community is just a front.

Chantilly is a sinking ship much like the Titanic, with an obvious distinction between Franklin and Rocky Run kids.

I have dealt with split feeders from K-8, having attended Oak Hill, and I found that they really do come at a detriment to a student's social-emotional development.

Hear it from someone who has lived overcrowding and split feeders first hand, it was not fun.

In regards to the overcrowding:

It was not fun having to zigzag around other kids to avoid injury.

It was not fun having to face delays in the halls from severe backups.

It was not fun having to wait in the bathroom for a toilet or sink to open up, when everyone went in there at once.

It was not fun being crammed into a class of 30 people, and not receiving the specialized attention from the teacher students deserve.

It was not fun being crammed into spaces that were not built to accommodate the amount of people it had to hold from enrollment pressures.

In regards to the split feeder situation:

It was not fun making friends with people you knew would be heading in a different direction as you.

It was not fun having to say goodbye to those you grew to love, appreciate, and cherish.

It was not fun knowing that students were going to a better or worse school than you, with a pervasive feeling of angst and envy knowing that our overall experience at the next level would not be the same.

It was not fun attending schools with people so vastly dissimilar from you that you felt like you couldn't maintain a proper social standing, and stuck with who was familiar.

It was not fun leaving people I had known for the past seven years, and then having to do the same with people you knew for the past two years.

It was certainly not fun knowing that cross-school parties exist, where artificial ethnocentrism at the high school level created social rifts, with students from one school being uninvited in order to maintain a feeling of community with people you may never see again in life, not to mention fights that would occur if students from other schools showed their face.

And most importantly, it was not fun having relationships be strained from defective and awfully drawn school boundary lines.

Chantilly was overcrowded, socially difficult to navigate, a safety hazard (there was one time I was stuck in the building during a fire drill), and a discombobulated mess that faced neglect over many years, where now the county comes up with a solution, that then they try to make problems with by considering turning it into an aerospace academy.

That's the truth behind what was felt as someone who has lived through FCPS' concocted BS that they have to clean up when they shot themselves in the foot and walked into this mess through chronic incompetence, gerrymandering, and misappropriation of taxpayer funds, if not straight up embezzlement and fraud.

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Anonymous wrote:It doesn’t explain why they decided to not make a decision. Halley still has an attendance island. Are they too afraid to make a decision?

They got a lot of push back. I think for some areas they’re waiting and hoping the temperature drops? I don’t see that happening but whatever.

I think they really wanted them at Gunston, but due to the efforts of the Mason Neck Citizens Group, and probably also the physical state of Gunston ES, that’s not going to be feasible without big renovations to the school. So now it’s a big hot potato of do they move kids out of Gunston to I guess Island Creek to make room at Gunston? (That’s a long bus ride). Do they add Hagel to Lorton Station and then try to make moves to get LSES as a SC feeder? Not really possible right now without overcrowding South County MS and HS though. Do they add it to Lorton Station/Hayfield and then wash their hands of the whole thing? Do they try to add it to Laurel Hill which makes a nice border on paper but still ends up with a long bus ride? (And another overcrowded school at Laurel Hill as well). Are they ok with potentially taking LSES, which is a big feeder school, out of Hayfield and leaving Hayfield under-enrolled, assuming they’ll need the capacity at Hayfield to relieve Edison? But if Edison needs relief, the first places to look should be under-enrolled Lewis and over-expanded West Potomac.

I really think to solve the South County overcrowding, they should send kids from Springfield to Lewis. Anyways that bus ride for them is about 10-15 minutes so they might as well go to Lewis and let Lorton Students stay in Lorton.

Lorton station elementary students are closest to South County while some Springfield students go to south county. Not right. They should be at Lewis and they’ve got plenty of capacity

The only Springfield kids at SC are in Newington Forest, in which case they’d be bussed the whole way down the parkway to Key and Lewis, past the attendance areas for both Hunt Valley and Rolling Valley, which both go to West Springfield. That would be a gigantic border gerrymander. And at that point people would rightly wonder why it wasn’t at least part of Hunt Valley at Lewis and we’re suddenly back on that nonsense again. South County is fine as is and doesn’t need to lose any students. It’s just if they want it to gain a few hundred from Lorton Station that’s where the problem comes in.

Isn't Newington Forest in Lorton?

Thet would also go past Daventry and West Springfield Elementary.

Daventry is the neighborhood you should be focused on. They were recently zoned to Lewis, and are part of the Franconia magesterial district, not the Springfield district. Daventry and Keene Mill elementary are the closest West Springfield areas to Lewis by a long shot.

Whoever is saying that Newington should attend Lewis is not looking at maps.

There are no Springfield kids at South County. OP is confused. It’s entirely Lorton, Mason Neck, and Fairfax Station.

You don’t know what the heck you’re talking about.

I lived in Springfield for about 25 years. Since South County was built, Springfield area which is close to Lorton was zoned for South County. Newington Forest is zoned for South County as well. There are some neighborhoods that are zoned for West Springfield. Really, some of those Springfield homes should be zoned for Lewis and Lorton Station kids should be zoned for south county.

Newington Forest is in Lorton, not Springfield

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Anonymous wrote:It doesn’t explain why they decided to not make a decision. Halley still has an attendance island. Are they too afraid to make a decision?

They got a lot of push back. I think for some areas they’re waiting and hoping the temperature drops? I don’t see that happening but whatever.

I think they really wanted them at Gunston, but due to the efforts of the Mason Neck Citizens Group, and probably also the physical state of Gunston ES, that’s not going to be feasible without big renovations to the school. So now it’s a big hot potato of do they move kids out of Gunston to I guess Island Creek to make room at Gunston? (That’s a long bus ride). Do they add Hagel to Lorton Station and then try to make moves to get LSES as a SC feeder? Not really possible right now without overcrowding South County MS and HS though. Do they add it to Lorton Station/Hayfield and then wash their hands of the whole thing? Do they try to add it to Laurel Hill which makes a nice border on paper but still ends up with a long bus ride? (And another overcrowded school at Laurel Hill as well). Are they ok with potentially taking LSES, which is a big feeder school, out of Hayfield and leaving Hayfield under-enrolled, assuming they’ll need the capacity at Hayfield to relieve Edison? But if Edison needs relief, the first places to look should be under-enrolled Lewis and over-expanded West Potomac.

I really think to solve the South County overcrowding, they should send kids from Springfield to Lewis. Anyways that bus ride for them is about 10-15 minutes so they might as well go to Lewis and let Lorton Students stay in Lorton.

Lorton station elementary students are closest to South County while some Springfield students go to south county. Not right. They should be at Lewis and they’ve got plenty of capacity

The only Springfield kids at SC are in Newington Forest, in which case they’d be bussed the whole way down the parkway to Key and Lewis, past the attendance areas for both Hunt Valley and Rolling Valley, which both go to West Springfield. That would be a gigantic border gerrymander. And at that point people would rightly wonder why it wasn’t at least part of Hunt Valley at Lewis and we’re suddenly back on that nonsense again. South County is fine as is and doesn’t need to lose any students. It’s just if they want it to gain a few hundred from Lorton Station that’s where the problem comes in.

Isn't Newington Forest in Lorton?

Thet would also go past Daventry and West Springfield Elementary.

Daventry is the neighborhood you should be focused on. They were recently zoned to Lewis, and are part of the Franconia magesterial district, not the Springfield district. Daventry and Keene Mill elementary are the closest West Springfield areas to Lewis by a long shot.

Whoever is saying that Newington should attend Lewis is not looking at maps.

There are no Springfield kids at South County. OP is confused. It’s entirely Lorton, Mason Neck, and Fairfax Station.

Technically Newington Forest elementary and the neighborhood has a Springfield 22153 address, same as Hunt Valley. But South County is definitely our closest school. Even West Springfield is a bit of a hike from here but is still closer than Lewis.

Newington Forrest is so close to SC middle and high schools. It would make no sense at all to change those neighborhoods to Lewis, LBSS or WSHS. At least if you care about proximity to the school and transportation times.

So is Lorton Station Elementary but it’s zoned for Hayfield. Lorton station is 5 minutes from south county. Yet, Newington Forest gets to be zoned for South County. We have to drop our children off at Hayfield which is a 15 minute drive. Why don’t Newington Forest go to lewis. Anyways, they are a Springfield school. Lorton should be with Lorton and Springfield with Springfield. Obviously there is no room at west Springfield and Lewis is way under capacity.

Newington Forest would have to pass a half dozen elementary schools to get to alewis.

Your post makes it clear you are not familiar with West Springfield, that Newington Forest part of Lorton, and any of the roads or traffic in that area.

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Anonymous wrote:It doesn’t explain why they decided to not make a decision. Halley still has an attendance island. Are they too afraid to make a decision?

They got a lot of push back. I think for some areas they’re waiting and hoping the temperature drops? I don’t see that happening but whatever.

I think they really wanted them at Gunston, but due to the efforts of the Mason Neck Citizens Group, and probably also the physical state of Gunston ES, that’s not going to be feasible without big renovations to the school. So now it’s a big hot potato of do they move kids out of Gunston to I guess Island Creek to make room at Gunston? (That’s a long bus ride). Do they add Hagel to Lorton Station and then try to make moves to get LSES as a SC feeder? Not really possible right now without overcrowding South County MS and HS though. Do they add it to Lorton Station/Hayfield and then wash their hands of the whole thing? Do they try to add it to Laurel Hill which makes a nice border on paper but still ends up with a long bus ride? (And another overcrowded school at Laurel Hill as well). Are they ok with potentially taking LSES, which is a big feeder school, out of Hayfield and leaving Hayfield under-enrolled, assuming they’ll need the capacity at Hayfield to relieve Edison? But if Edison needs relief, the first places to look should be under-enrolled Lewis and over-expanded West Potomac.

I really think to solve the South County overcrowding, they should send kids from Springfield to Lewis. Anyways that bus ride for them is about 10-15 minutes so they might as well go to Lewis and let Lorton Students stay in Lorton.

Lorton station elementary students are closest to South County while some Springfield students go to south county. Not right. They should be at Lewis and they’ve got plenty of capacity

The only Springfield kids at SC are in Newington Forest, in which case they’d be bussed the whole way down the parkway to Key and Lewis, past the attendance areas for both Hunt Valley and Rolling Valley, which both go to West Springfield. That would be a gigantic border gerrymander. And at that point people would rightly wonder why it wasn’t at least part of Hunt Valley at Lewis and we’re suddenly back on that nonsense again. South County is fine as is and doesn’t need to lose any students. It’s just if they want it to gain a few hundred from Lorton Station that’s where the problem comes in.

Isn't Newington Forest in Lorton?

Thet would also go past Daventry and West Springfield Elementary.

Daventry is the neighborhood you should be focused on. They were recently zoned to Lewis, and are part of the Franconia magesterial district, not the Springfield district. Daventry and Keene Mill elementary are the closest West Springfield areas to Lewis by a long shot.

Whoever is saying that Newington should attend Lewis is not looking at maps.

There are no Springfield kids at South County. OP is confused. It’s entirely Lorton, Mason Neck, and Fairfax Station.

You don’t know what the heck you’re talking about.

I lived in Springfield for about 25 years. Since South County was built, Springfield area which is close to Lorton was zoned for South County. Newington Forest is zoned for South County as well. There are some neighborhoods that are zoned for West Springfield. Really, some of those Springfield homes should be zoned for Lewis and Lorton Station kids should be zoned for south county.

Newington Forest is in Lorton, not Springfield

Loud and wrong. Newington Forest is definitely in Springfield.

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Anonymous wrote:It doesn’t explain why they decided to not make a decision. Halley still has an attendance island. Are they too afraid to make a decision?

They got a lot of push back. I think for some areas they’re waiting and hoping the temperature drops? I don’t see that happening but whatever.

I think they really wanted them at Gunston, but due to the efforts of the Mason Neck Citizens Group, and probably also the physical state of Gunston ES, that’s not going to be feasible without big renovations to the school. So now it’s a big hot potato of do they move kids out of Gunston to I guess Island Creek to make room at Gunston? (That’s a long bus ride). Do they add Hagel to Lorton Station and then try to make moves to get LSES as a SC feeder? Not really possible right now without overcrowding South County MS and HS though. Do they add it to Lorton Station/Hayfield and then wash their hands of the whole thing? Do they try to add it to Laurel Hill which makes a nice border on paper but still ends up with a long bus ride? (And another overcrowded school at Laurel Hill as well). Are they ok with potentially taking LSES, which is a big feeder school, out of Hayfield and leaving Hayfield under-enrolled, assuming they’ll need the capacity at Hayfield to relieve Edison? But if Edison needs relief, the first places to look should be under-enrolled Lewis and over-expanded West Potomac.

I really think to solve the South County overcrowding, they should send kids from Springfield to Lewis. Anyways that bus ride for them is about 10-15 minutes so they might as well go to Lewis and let Lorton Students stay in Lorton.

Lorton station elementary students are closest to South County while some Springfield students go to south county. Not right. They should be at Lewis and they’ve got plenty of capacity

The only Springfield kids at SC are in Newington Forest, in which case they’d be bussed the whole way down the parkway to Key and Lewis, past the attendance areas for both Hunt Valley and Rolling Valley, which both go to West Springfield. That would be a gigantic border gerrymander. And at that point people would rightly wonder why it wasn’t at least part of Hunt Valley at Lewis and we’re suddenly back on that nonsense again. South County is fine as is and doesn’t need to lose any students. It’s just if they want it to gain a few hundred from Lorton Station that’s where the problem comes in.

Isn't Newington Forest in Lorton?

Thet would also go past Daventry and West Springfield Elementary.

Daventry is the neighborhood you should be focused on. They were recently zoned to Lewis, and are part of the Franconia magesterial district, not the Springfield district. Daventry and Keene Mill elementary are the closest West Springfield areas to Lewis by a long shot.

Whoever is saying that Newington should attend Lewis is not looking at maps.

There are no Springfield kids at South County. OP is confused. It’s entirely Lorton, Mason Neck, and Fairfax Station.

You don’t know what the heck you’re talking about.

I lived in Springfield for about 25 years. Since South County was built, Springfield area which is close to Lorton was zoned for South County. Newington Forest is zoned for South County as well. There are some neighborhoods that are zoned for West Springfield. Really, some of those Springfield homes should be zoned for Lewis and Lorton Station kids should be zoned for south county.

Newington Forest is in Lorton, not Springfield

No one cares. Either way it’s not moving right now.


Loud and wrong. Newington Forest is definitely in Springfield.

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Anonymous wrote:It doesn’t explain why they decided to not make a decision. Halley still has an attendance island. Are they too afraid to make a decision?

They got a lot of push back. I think for some areas they’re waiting and hoping the temperature drops? I don’t see that happening but whatever.

I think they really wanted them at Gunston, but due to the efforts of the Mason Neck Citizens Group, and probably also the physical state of Gunston ES, that’s not going to be feasible without big renovations to the school. So now it’s a big hot potato of do they move kids out of Gunston to I guess Island Creek to make room at Gunston? (That’s a long bus ride). Do they add Hagel to Lorton Station and then try to make moves to get LSES as a SC feeder? Not really possible right now without overcrowding South County MS and HS though. Do they add it to Lorton Station/Hayfield and then wash their hands of the whole thing? Do they try to add it to Laurel Hill which makes a nice border on paper but still ends up with a long bus ride? (And another overcrowded school at Laurel Hill as well). Are they ok with potentially taking LSES, which is a big feeder school, out of Hayfield and leaving Hayfield under-enrolled, assuming they’ll need the capacity at Hayfield to relieve Edison? But if Edison needs relief, the first places to look should be under-enrolled Lewis and over-expanded West Potomac.

I really think to solve the South County overcrowding, they should send kids from Springfield to Lewis. Anyways that bus ride for them is about 10-15 minutes so they might as well go to Lewis and let Lorton Students stay in Lorton.

Lorton station elementary students are closest to South County while some Springfield students go to south county. Not right. They should be at Lewis and they’ve got plenty of capacity

The only Springfield kids at SC are in Newington Forest, in which case they’d be bussed the whole way down the parkway to Key and Lewis, past the attendance areas for both Hunt Valley and Rolling Valley, which both go to West Springfield. That would be a gigantic border gerrymander. And at that point people would rightly wonder why it wasn’t at least part of Hunt Valley at Lewis and we’re suddenly back on that nonsense again. South County is fine as is and doesn’t need to lose any students. It’s just if they want it to gain a few hundred from Lorton Station that’s where the problem comes in.

Isn't Newington Forest in Lorton?

Thet would also go past Daventry and West Springfield Elementary.

Daventry is the neighborhood you should be focused on. They were recently zoned to Lewis, and are part of the Franconia magesterial district, not the Springfield district. Daventry and Keene Mill elementary are the closest West Springfield areas to Lewis by a long shot.

Whoever is saying that Newington should attend Lewis is not looking at maps.

There are no Springfield kids at South County. OP is confused. It’s entirely Lorton, Mason Neck, and Fairfax Station.

Technically Newington Forest elementary and the neighborhood has a Springfield 22153 address, same as Hunt Valley. But South County is definitely our closest school. Even West Springfield is a bit of a hike from here but is still closer than Lewis.

Newington Forrest is so close to SC middle and high schools. It would make no sense at all to change those neighborhoods to Lewis, LBSS or WSHS. At least if you care about proximity to the school and transportation times.

So is Lorton Station Elementary but it’s zoned for Hayfield. Lorton station is 5 minutes from south county. Yet, Newington Forest gets to be zoned for South County. We have to drop our children off at Hayfield which is a 15 minute drive. Why don’t Newington Forest go to lewis. Anyways, they are a Springfield school. Lorton should be with Lorton and Springfield with Springfield. Obviously there is no room at west Springfield and Lewis is way under capacity.

Lewis is seemingly getting Bren Mar Park at the 5 year review or possibly earlier, and something is going to go on with Lorton Station too. Since you apparently go there now, you would know that FCPS held a special secret meeting for you guys and laid out the scenarios. No one from along the parkway and west of Rolling is getting bussed to Lewis at this point. Just give it up already.

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Anonymous wrote:It doesn’t explain why they decided to not make a decision. Halley still has an attendance island. Are they too afraid to make a decision?

They got a lot of push back. I think for some areas they’re waiting and hoping the temperature drops? I don’t see that happening but whatever.

I think they really wanted them at Gunston, but due to the efforts of the Mason Neck Citizens Group, and probably also the physical state of Gunston ES, that’s not going to be feasible without big renovations to the school. So now it’s a big hot potato of do they move kids out of Gunston to I guess Island Creek to make room at Gunston? (That’s a long bus ride). Do they add Hagel to Lorton Station and then try to make moves to get LSES as a SC feeder? Not really possible right now without overcrowding South County MS and HS though. Do they add it to Lorton Station/Hayfield and then wash their hands of the whole thing? Do they try to add it to Laurel Hill which makes a nice border on paper but still ends up with a long bus ride? (And another overcrowded school at Laurel Hill as well). Are they ok with potentially taking LSES, which is a big feeder school, out of Hayfield and leaving Hayfield under-enrolled, assuming they’ll need the capacity at Hayfield to relieve Edison? But if Edison needs relief, the first places to look should be under-enrolled Lewis and over-expanded West Potomac.

I really think to solve the South County overcrowding, they should send kids from Springfield to Lewis. Anyways that bus ride for them is about 10-15 minutes so they might as well go to Lewis and let Lorton Students stay in Lorton.

Lorton station elementary students are closest to South County while some Springfield students go to south county. Not right. They should be at Lewis and they’ve got plenty of capacity

The only Springfield kids at SC are in Newington Forest, in which case they’d be bussed the whole way down the parkway to Key and Lewis, past the attendance areas for both Hunt Valley and Rolling Valley, which both go to West Springfield. That would be a gigantic border gerrymander. And at that point people would rightly wonder why it wasn’t at least part of Hunt Valley at Lewis and we’re suddenly back on that nonsense again. South County is fine as is and doesn’t need to lose any students. It’s just if they want it to gain a few hundred from Lorton Station that’s where the problem comes in.

Isn't Newington Forest in Lorton?

Thet would also go past Daventry and West Springfield Elementary.

Daventry is the neighborhood you should be focused on. They were recently zoned to Lewis, and are part of the Franconia magesterial district, not the Springfield district. Daventry and Keene Mill elementary are the closest West Springfield areas to Lewis by a long shot.

Whoever is saying that Newington should attend Lewis is not looking at maps.

There are no Springfield kids at South County. OP is confused. It’s entirely Lorton, Mason Neck, and Fairfax Station.

Technically Newington Forest elementary and the neighborhood has a Springfield 22153 address, same as Hunt Valley. But South County is definitely our closest school. Even West Springfield is a bit of a hike from here but is still closer than Lewis.

Newington Forrest is so close to SC middle and high schools. It would make no sense at all to change those neighborhoods to Lewis, LBSS or WSHS. At least if you care about proximity to the school and transportation times.

So is Lorton Station Elementary but it’s zoned for Hayfield. Lorton station is 5 minutes from south county. Yet, Newington Forest gets to be zoned for South County. We have to drop our children off at Hayfield which is a 15 minute drive. Why don’t Newington Forest go to lewis. Anyways, they are a Springfield school. Lorton should be with Lorton and Springfield with Springfield. Obviously there is no room at west Springfield and Lewis is way under capacity.

Lewis is seemingly getting Bren Mar Park at the 5 year review or possibly earlier, and something is going to go on with Lorton Station too. Since you apparently go there now, you would know that FCPS held a special secret meeting for you guys and laid out the scenarios. No one from along the parkway and west of Rolling is getting bussed to Lewis at this point. Just give it up already.

Yeah a “special secret meeting”. You’re a joke. Your not worth my time

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Anonymous wrote:It doesn’t explain why they decided to not make a decision. Halley still has an attendance island. Are they too afraid to make a decision?

They got a lot of push back. I think for some areas they’re waiting and hoping the temperature drops? I don’t see that happening but whatever.

I think they really wanted them at Gunston, but due to the efforts of the Mason Neck Citizens Group, and probably also the physical state of Gunston ES, that’s not going to be feasible without big renovations to the school. So now it’s a big hot potato of do they move kids out of Gunston to I guess Island Creek to make room at Gunston? (That’s a long bus ride). Do they add Hagel to Lorton Station and then try to make moves to get LSES as a SC feeder? Not really possible right now without overcrowding South County MS and HS though. Do they add it to Lorton Station/Hayfield and then wash their hands of the whole thing? Do they try to add it to Laurel Hill which makes a nice border on paper but still ends up with a long bus ride? (And another overcrowded school at Laurel Hill as well). Are they ok with potentially taking LSES, which is a big feeder school, out of Hayfield and leaving Hayfield under-enrolled, assuming they’ll need the capacity at Hayfield to relieve Edison? But if Edison needs relief, the first places to look should be under-enrolled Lewis and over-expanded West Potomac.

I really think to solve the South County overcrowding, they should send kids from Springfield to Lewis. Anyways that bus ride for them is about 10-15 minutes so they might as well go to Lewis and let Lorton Students stay in Lorton.

Lorton station elementary students are closest to South County while some Springfield students go to south county. Not right. They should be at Lewis and they’ve got plenty of capacity

The only Springfield kids at SC are in Newington Forest, in which case they’d be bussed the whole way down the parkway to Key and Lewis, past the attendance areas for both Hunt Valley and Rolling Valley, which both go to West Springfield. That would be a gigantic border gerrymander. And at that point people would rightly wonder why it wasn’t at least part of Hunt Valley at Lewis and we’re suddenly back on that nonsense again. South County is fine as is and doesn’t need to lose any students. It’s just if they want it to gain a few hundred from Lorton Station that’s where the problem comes in.

Isn't Newington Forest in Lorton?

Thet would also go past Daventry and West Springfield Elementary.

Daventry is the neighborhood you should be focused on. They were recently zoned to Lewis, and are part of the Franconia magesterial district, not the Springfield district. Daventry and Keene Mill elementary are the closest West Springfield areas to Lewis by a long shot.

Whoever is saying that Newington should attend Lewis is not looking at maps.

There are no Springfield kids at South County. OP is confused. It’s entirely Lorton, Mason Neck, and Fairfax Station.

You don’t know what the heck you’re talking about.

I lived in Springfield for about 25 years. Since South County was built, Springfield area which is close to Lorton was zoned for South County. Newington Forest is zoned for South County as well. There are some neighborhoods that are zoned for West Springfield. Really, some of those Springfield homes should be zoned for Lewis and Lorton Station kids should be zoned for south county.

Newington Forest is in Lorton, not Springfield

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It takes 2 seconds to google the address of a school - Address: 8001 Newington Forest Ave, Springfield, VA 22153.

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Anonymous wrote:It doesn’t explain why they decided to not make a decision. Halley still has an attendance island. Are they too afraid to make a decision?

They got a lot of push back. I think for some areas they’re waiting and hoping the temperature drops? I don’t see that happening but whatever.

I think they really wanted them at Gunston, but due to the efforts of the Mason Neck Citizens Group, and probably also the physical state of Gunston ES, that’s not going to be feasible without big renovations to the school. So now it’s a big hot potato of do they move kids out of Gunston to I guess Island Creek to make room at Gunston? (That’s a long bus ride). Do they add Hagel to Lorton Station and then try to make moves to get LSES as a SC feeder? Not really possible right now without overcrowding South County MS and HS though. Do they add it to Lorton Station/Hayfield and then wash their hands of the whole thing? Do they try to add it to Laurel Hill which makes a nice border on paper but still ends up with a long bus ride? (And another overcrowded school at Laurel Hill as well). Are they ok with potentially taking LSES, which is a big feeder school, out of Hayfield and leaving Hayfield under-enrolled, assuming they’ll need the capacity at Hayfield to relieve Edison? But if Edison needs relief, the first places to look should be under-enrolled Lewis and over-expanded West Potomac.

I really think to solve the South County overcrowding, they should send kids from Springfield to Lewis. Anyways that bus ride for them is about 10-15 minutes so they might as well go to Lewis and let Lorton Students stay in Lorton.

Lorton station elementary students are closest to South County while some Springfield students go to south county. Not right. They should be at Lewis and they’ve got plenty of capacity

The only Springfield kids at SC are in Newington Forest, in which case they’d be bussed the whole way down the parkway to Key and Lewis, past the attendance areas for both Hunt Valley and Rolling Valley, which both go to West Springfield. That would be a gigantic border gerrymander. And at that point people would rightly wonder why it wasn’t at least part of Hunt Valley at Lewis and we’re suddenly back on that nonsense again. South County is fine as is and doesn’t need to lose any students. It’s just if they want it to gain a few hundred from Lorton Station that’s where the problem comes in.

Isn't Newington Forest in Lorton?

Thet would also go past Daventry and West Springfield Elementary.

Daventry is the neighborhood you should be focused on. They were recently zoned to Lewis, and are part of the Franconia magesterial district, not the Springfield district. Daventry and Keene Mill elementary are the closest West Springfield areas to Lewis by a long shot.

Whoever is saying that Newington should attend Lewis is not looking at maps.

There are no Springfield kids at South County. OP is confused. It’s entirely Lorton, Mason Neck, and Fairfax Station.

Technically Newington Forest elementary and the neighborhood has a Springfield 22153 address, same as Hunt Valley. But South County is definitely our closest school. Even West Springfield is a bit of a hike from here but is still closer than Lewis.

Newington Forrest is so close to SC middle and high schools. It would make no sense at all to change those neighborhoods to Lewis, LBSS or WSHS. At least if you care about proximity to the school and transportation times.

So is Lorton Station Elementary but it’s zoned for Hayfield. Lorton station is 5 minutes from south county. Yet, Newington Forest gets to be zoned for South County. We have to drop our children off at Hayfield which is a 15 minute drive. Why don’t Newington Forest go to lewis. Anyways, they are a Springfield school. Lorton should be with Lorton and Springfield with Springfield. Obviously there is no room at west Springfield and Lewis is way under capacity.

Lewis is seemingly getting Bren Mar Park at the 5 year review or possibly earlier, and something is going to go on with Lorton Station too. Since you apparently go there now, you would know that FCPS held a special secret meeting for you guys and laid out the scenarios. No one from along the parkway and west of Rolling is getting bussed to Lewis at this point. Just give it up already.

Yeah a “special secret meeting”. You’re a joke. Your not worth my time

It was special secret to everyone else but that school knew about it. Are you actually at Lorton Station or just trolling?

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Anonymous wrote:It doesn’t explain why they decided to not make a decision. Halley still has an attendance island. Are they too afraid to make a decision?

They got a lot of push back. I think for some areas they’re waiting and hoping the temperature drops? I don’t see that happening but whatever.

I think they really wanted them at Gunston, but due to the efforts of the Mason Neck Citizens Group, and probably also the physical state of Gunston ES, that’s not going to be feasible without big renovations to the school. So now it’s a big hot potato of do they move kids out of Gunston to I guess Island Creek to make room at Gunston? (That’s a long bus ride). Do they add Hagel to Lorton Station and then try to make moves to get LSES as a SC feeder? Not really possible right now without overcrowding South County MS and HS though. Do they add it to Lorton Station/Hayfield and then wash their hands of the whole thing? Do they try to add it to Laurel Hill which makes a nice border on paper but still ends up with a long bus ride? (And another overcrowded school at Laurel Hill as well). Are they ok with potentially taking LSES, which is a big feeder school, out of Hayfield and leaving Hayfield under-enrolled, assuming they’ll need the capacity at Hayfield to relieve Edison? But if Edison needs relief, the first places to look should be under-enrolled Lewis and over-expanded West Potomac.

I really think to solve the South County overcrowding, they should send kids from Springfield to Lewis. Anyways that bus ride for them is about 10-15 minutes so they might as well go to Lewis and let Lorton Students stay in Lorton.

Lorton station elementary students are closest to South County while some Springfield students go to south county. Not right. They should be at Lewis and they’ve got plenty of capacity

The only Springfield kids at SC are in Newington Forest, in which case they’d be bussed the whole way down the parkway to Key and Lewis, past the attendance areas for both Hunt Valley and Rolling Valley, which both go to West Springfield. That would be a gigantic border gerrymander. And at that point people would rightly wonder why it wasn’t at least part of Hunt Valley at Lewis and we’re suddenly back on that nonsense again. South County is fine as is and doesn’t need to lose any students. It’s just if they want it to gain a few hundred from Lorton Station that’s where the problem comes in.

Isn't Newington Forest in Lorton?

Thet would also go past Daventry and West Springfield Elementary.

Daventry is the neighborhood you should be focused on. They were recently zoned to Lewis, and are part of the Franconia magesterial district, not the Springfield district. Daventry and Keene Mill elementary are the closest West Springfield areas to Lewis by a long shot.

Whoever is saying that Newington should attend Lewis is not looking at maps.

There are no Springfield kids at South County. OP is confused. It’s entirely Lorton, Mason Neck, and Fairfax Station.

Technically Newington Forest elementary and the neighborhood has a Springfield 22153 address, same as Hunt Valley. But South County is definitely our closest school. Even West Springfield is a bit of a hike from here but is still closer than Lewis.

Newington Forrest is so close to SC middle and high schools. It would make no sense at all to change those neighborhoods to Lewis, LBSS or WSHS. At least if you care about proximity to the school and transportation times.

So is Lorton Station Elementary but it’s zoned for Hayfield. Lorton station is 5 minutes from south county. Yet, Newington Forest gets to be zoned for South County. We have to drop our children off at Hayfield which is a 15 minute drive. Why don’t Newington Forest go to lewis. Anyways, they are a Springfield school. Lorton should be with Lorton and Springfield with Springfield. Obviously there is no room at west Springfield and Lewis is way under capacity.

Lewis is seemingly getting Bren Mar Park at the 5 year review or possibly earlier, and something is going to go on with Lorton Station too. Since you apparently go there now, you would know that FCPS held a special secret meeting for you guys and laid out the scenarios. No one from along the parkway and west of Rolling is getting bussed to Lewis at this point. Just give it up already.

So those people are too good for Lewis? That is how that sounds.

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Anonymous wrote:It doesn’t explain why they decided to not make a decision. Halley still has an attendance island. Are they too afraid to make a decision?

They got a lot of push back. I think for some areas they’re waiting and hoping the temperature drops? I don’t see that happening but whatever.

I think they really wanted them at Gunston, but due to the efforts of the Mason Neck Citizens Group, and probably also the physical state of Gunston ES, that’s not going to be feasible without big renovations to the school. So now it’s a big hot potato of do they move kids out of Gunston to I guess Island Creek to make room at Gunston? (That’s a long bus ride). Do they add Hagel to Lorton Station and then try to make moves to get LSES as a SC feeder? Not really possible right now without overcrowding South County MS and HS though. Do they add it to Lorton Station/Hayfield and then wash their hands of the whole thing? Do they try to add it to Laurel Hill which makes a nice border on paper but still ends up with a long bus ride? (And another overcrowded school at Laurel Hill as well). Are they ok with potentially taking LSES, which is a big feeder school, out of Hayfield and leaving Hayfield under-enrolled, assuming they’ll need the capacity at Hayfield to relieve Edison? But if Edison needs relief, the first places to look should be under-enrolled Lewis and over-expanded West Potomac.

I really think to solve the South County overcrowding, they should send kids from Springfield to Lewis. Anyways that bus ride for them is about 10-15 minutes so they might as well go to Lewis and let Lorton Students stay in Lorton.

Lorton station elementary students are closest to South County while some Springfield students go to south county. Not right. They should be at Lewis and they’ve got plenty of capacity

The only Springfield kids at SC are in Newington Forest, in which case they’d be bussed the whole way down the parkway to Key and Lewis, past the attendance areas for both Hunt Valley and Rolling Valley, which both go to West Springfield. That would be a gigantic border gerrymander. And at that point people would rightly wonder why it wasn’t at least part of Hunt Valley at Lewis and we’re suddenly back on that nonsense again. South County is fine as is and doesn’t need to lose any students. It’s just if they want it to gain a few hundred from Lorton Station that’s where the problem comes in.

Isn't Newington Forest in Lorton?

Thet would also go past Daventry and West Springfield Elementary.

Daventry is the neighborhood you should be focused on. They were recently zoned to Lewis, and are part of the Franconia magesterial district, not the Springfield district. Daventry and Keene Mill elementary are the closest West Springfield areas to Lewis by a long shot.

Whoever is saying that Newington should attend Lewis is not looking at maps.

There are no Springfield kids at South County. OP is confused. It’s entirely Lorton, Mason Neck, and Fairfax Station.

Technically Newington Forest elementary and the neighborhood has a Springfield 22153 address, same as Hunt Valley. But South County is definitely our closest school. Even West Springfield is a bit of a hike from here but is still closer than Lewis.

Newington Forrest is so close to SC middle and high schools. It would make no sense at all to change those neighborhoods to Lewis, LBSS or WSHS. At least if you care about proximity to the school and transportation times.

So is Lorton Station Elementary but it’s zoned for Hayfield. Lorton station is 5 minutes from south county. Yet, Newington Forest gets to be zoned for South County. We have to drop our children off at Hayfield which is a 15 minute drive. Why don’t Newington Forest go to lewis. Anyways, they are a Springfield school. Lorton should be with Lorton and Springfield with Springfield. Obviously there is no room at west Springfield and Lewis is way under capacity.

Lewis is seemingly getting Bren Mar Park at the 5 year review or possibly earlier, and something is going to go on with Lorton Station too. Since you apparently go there now, you would know that FCPS held a special secret meeting for you guys and laid out the scenarios. No one from along the parkway and west of Rolling is getting bussed to Lewis at this point. Just give it up already.

So those people are too good for Lewis? That is how that sounds.

DP, with no dog in this fight.

Families don’t want their kids moved from the pyramid that they chose when they bought their house. This has been overwhelmingly communicated to the school board, individual members, and FCPS staff throughout the last two years of public engagement.

No matter what words you try to put into people’s mouths, it won’t change the fundamental fact that families don’t want their kids to be moved. And the school board would be wise to revert to just making necessary boundary changes, not comprehensive ones.

That would garner a lot more goodwill among key constituencies as the county deals with a declining membership, declining funding, and the increased threat of vouchers. Frankly, the school board just can’t afford to alienate families, they need all the support they can get.

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Anonymous wrote:It doesn’t explain why they decided to not make a decision. Halley still has an attendance island. Are they too afraid to make a decision?

They got a lot of push back. I think for some areas they’re waiting and hoping the temperature drops? I don’t see that happening but whatever.

I think they really wanted them at Gunston, but due to the efforts of the Mason Neck Citizens Group, and probably also the physical state of Gunston ES, that’s not going to be feasible without big renovations to the school. So now it’s a big hot potato of do they move kids out of Gunston to I guess Island Creek to make room at Gunston? (That’s a long bus ride). Do they add Hagel to Lorton Station and then try to make moves to get LSES as a SC feeder? Not really possible right now without overcrowding South County MS and HS though. Do they add it to Lorton Station/Hayfield and then wash their hands of the whole thing? Do they try to add it to Laurel Hill which makes a nice border on paper but still ends up with a long bus ride? (And another overcrowded school at Laurel Hill as well). Are they ok with potentially taking LSES, which is a big feeder school, out of Hayfield and leaving Hayfield under-enrolled, assuming they’ll need the capacity at Hayfield to relieve Edison? But if Edison needs relief, the first places to look should be under-enrolled Lewis and over-expanded West Potomac.

I really think to solve the South County overcrowding, they should send kids from Springfield to Lewis. Anyways that bus ride for them is about 10-15 minutes so they might as well go to Lewis and let Lorton Students stay in Lorton.

Lorton station elementary students are closest to South County while some Springfield students go to south county. Not right. They should be at Lewis and they’ve got plenty of capacity

The only Springfield kids at SC are in Newington Forest, in which case they’d be bussed the whole way down the parkway to Key and Lewis, past the attendance areas for both Hunt Valley and Rolling Valley, which both go to West Springfield. That would be a gigantic border gerrymander. And at that point people would rightly wonder why it wasn’t at least part of Hunt Valley at Lewis and we’re suddenly back on that nonsense again. South County is fine as is and doesn’t need to lose any students. It’s just if they want it to gain a few hundred from Lorton Station that’s where the problem comes in.

Isn't Newington Forest in Lorton?

Thet would also go past Daventry and West Springfield Elementary.

Daventry is the neighborhood you should be focused on. They were recently zoned to Lewis, and are part of the Franconia magesterial district, not the Springfield district. Daventry and Keene Mill elementary are the closest West Springfield areas to Lewis by a long shot.

Whoever is saying that Newington should attend Lewis is not looking at maps.

There are no Springfield kids at South County. OP is confused. It’s entirely Lorton, Mason Neck, and Fairfax Station.

Technically Newington Forest elementary and the neighborhood has a Springfield 22153 address, same as Hunt Valley. But South County is definitely our closest school. Even West Springfield is a bit of a hike from here but is still closer than Lewis.

Newington Forrest is so close to SC middle and high schools. It would make no sense at all to change those neighborhoods to Lewis, LBSS or WSHS. At least if you care about proximity to the school and transportation times.

So is Lorton Station Elementary but it’s zoned for Hayfield. Lorton station is 5 minutes from south county. Yet, Newington Forest gets to be zoned for South County. We have to drop our children off at Hayfield which is a 15 minute drive. Why don’t Newington Forest go to lewis. Anyways, they are a Springfield school. Lorton should be with Lorton and Springfield with Springfield. Obviously there is no room at west Springfield and Lewis is way under capacity.

Lewis is seemingly getting Bren Mar Park at the 5 year review or possibly earlier, and something is going to go on with Lorton Station too. Since you apparently go there now, you would know that FCPS held a special secret meeting for you guys and laid out the scenarios. No one from along the parkway and west of Rolling is getting bussed to Lewis at this point. Just give it up already.

So those people are too good for Lewis? That is how that sounds.

They’re too far from Lewis! Have you driven down the parkway from Huntsman, Pohick, or even Gambrill to central Springfield in rush hour? It’s a crappy drive and there are always accidents in a certain spot right by the parkway split, which they’d have to drive through every day. This is why South County was built in the first place, so people living in the southern part of the county wouldn’t have to drive 30+ minutes to Lewis, Hayfield, or Lake Braddock. The county for whatever reason didn’t build it as huge as a bunch of the other big schools and it’s not in queue to get an expansion so it sits at a relatively small 2200-ish students. Enough for the 4.5 elementary schools that feed to it now.

“I don’t want to drive 15-20 minutes to Hayfield so you should have to drive 20+ minutes to Lewis” is what you’re basically saying at this point. And honestly they might just overload SC and put all of Lorton Station in it, who knows? You can enjoy your school at 110% capacity then I guess!

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Anonymous wrote:It doesn’t explain why they decided to not make a decision. Halley still has an attendance island. Are they too afraid to make a decision?

They got a lot of push back. I think for some areas they’re waiting and hoping the temperature drops? I don’t see that happening but whatever.

I think they really wanted them at Gunston, but due to the efforts of the Mason Neck Citizens Group, and probably also the physical state of Gunston ES, that’s not going to be feasible without big renovations to the school. So now it’s a big hot potato of do they move kids out of Gunston to I guess Island Creek to make room at Gunston? (That’s a long bus ride). Do they add Hagel to Lorton Station and then try to make moves to get LSES as a SC feeder? Not really possible right now without overcrowding South County MS and HS though. Do they add it to Lorton Station/Hayfield and then wash their hands of the whole thing? Do they try to add it to Laurel Hill which makes a nice border on paper but still ends up with a long bus ride? (And another overcrowded school at Laurel Hill as well). Are they ok with potentially taking LSES, which is a big feeder school, out of Hayfield and leaving Hayfield under-enrolled, assuming they’ll need the capacity at Hayfield to relieve Edison? But if Edison needs relief, the first places to look should be under-enrolled Lewis and over-expanded West Potomac.

I really think to solve the South County overcrowding, they should send kids from Springfield to Lewis. Anyways that bus ride for them is about 10-15 minutes so they might as well go to Lewis and let Lorton Students stay in Lorton.

Lorton station elementary students are closest to South County while some Springfield students go to south county. Not right. They should be at Lewis and they’ve got plenty of capacity

The only Springfield kids at SC are in Newington Forest, in which case they’d be bussed the whole way down the parkway to Key and Lewis, past the attendance areas for both Hunt Valley and Rolling Valley, which both go to West Springfield. That would be a gigantic border gerrymander. And at that point people would rightly wonder why it wasn’t at least part of Hunt Valley at Lewis and we’re suddenly back on that nonsense again. South County is fine as is and doesn’t need to lose any students. It’s just if they want it to gain a few hundred from Lorton Station that’s where the problem comes in.

Isn't Newington Forest in Lorton?

Thet would also go past Daventry and West Springfield Elementary.

Daventry is the neighborhood you should be focused on. They were recently zoned to Lewis, and are part of the Franconia magesterial district, not the Springfield district. Daventry and Keene Mill elementary are the closest West Springfield areas to Lewis by a long shot.

Whoever is saying that Newington should attend Lewis is not looking at maps.

There are no Springfield kids at South County. OP is confused. It’s entirely Lorton, Mason Neck, and Fairfax Station.

Technically Newington Forest elementary and the neighborhood has a Springfield 22153 address, same as Hunt Valley. But South County is definitely our closest school. Even West Springfield is a bit of a hike from here but is still closer than Lewis.

Newington Forrest is so close to SC middle and high schools. It would make no sense at all to change those neighborhoods to Lewis, LBSS or WSHS. At least if you care about proximity to the school and transportation times.

So is Lorton Station Elementary but it’s zoned for Hayfield. Lorton station is 5 minutes from south county. Yet, Newington Forest gets to be zoned for South County. We have to drop our children off at Hayfield which is a 15 minute drive. Why don’t Newington Forest go to lewis. Anyways, they are a Springfield school. Lorton should be with Lorton and Springfield with Springfield. Obviously there is no room at west Springfield and Lewis is way under capacity.

Lewis is seemingly getting Bren Mar Park at the 5 year review or possibly earlier, and something is going to go on with Lorton Station too. Since you apparently go there now, you would know that FCPS held a special secret meeting for you guys and laid out the scenarios. No one from along the parkway and west of Rolling is getting bussed to Lewis at this point. Just give it up already.

So those people are too good for Lewis? That is how that sounds.

DP, with no dog in this fight.

Families don’t want their kids moved from the pyramid that they chose when they bought their house. This has been overwhelmingly communicated to the school board, individual members, and FCPS staff throughout the last two years of public engagement.

No matter what words you try to put into people’s mouths, it won’t change the fundamental fact that families don’t want their kids to be moved. And the school board would be wise to revert to just making necessary boundary changes, not comprehensive ones.

That would garner a lot more goodwill among key constituencies as the county deals with a declining membership, declining funding, and the increased threat of vouchers. Frankly, the school board just can’t afford to alienate families, they need all the support they can get.

The school board's job is to maintain an effective and efficient school system. What some families want based off where they bought their house should not be on their list of considerations. Boundaries change over time as different parts of the county grow and shrink at different rates. Factoring in what a bunch of loud, entitled people want instead of making necessary adjustments over time is how you end up with the crazy boundary lines we have today.

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So, great falls still stay in Langley.