Kamala Harris’ office rife with dissent

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Anonymous wrote:Objectively she’s been an utter failure but it’s interesting that less than a year into her tenure she’s already managed to piss off the one person she can’t piss off……Biden. Think how fractured that relationship must be for the admin to put out hit pieces on her in the media. The guy polling at 38% thinks the gal polling at 28% may be dragging him down.

Or, his staff realizes that Biden won't make it four years and that, with Kamala in office, Democrats will be in serious trouble. They should have thought of this last year.

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Anonymous wrote:Objectively she’s been an utter failure but it’s interesting that less than a year into her tenure she’s already managed to piss off the one person she can’t piss off……Biden. Think how fractured that relationship must be for the admin to put out hit pieces on her in the media. The guy polling at 38% thinks the gal polling at 28% may be dragging him down.

But how has she been a failure? How do we know Biden is pissed off? These are all rumors so far with nothing concrete to back it up. I’m honestly trying to understand if there really is a problem or if this is all hearsay and the game of Telephone.

[Anonymous]

Coms Director Etienne just quit!

This is turning into a 3 alarm dumpster fire.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Coms Director Etienne just quit!

This is turning into a 3 alarm dumpster fire.

More to follow. Hope they get new people in that will tell it like it is and get the ship straight.

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Anonymous wrote:Coms Director Etienne just quit!

This is turning into a 3 alarm dumpster fire.

More to follow. Hope they get new people in that will tell it like it is and get the ship straight.

But, what if the problem is the Captain and not the Executive Officer?

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Anonymous wrote:Objectively she’s been an utter failure but it’s interesting that less than a year into her tenure she’s already managed to piss off the one person she can’t piss off……Biden. Think how fractured that relationship must be for the admin to put out hit pieces on her in the media. The guy polling at 38% thinks the gal polling at 28% may be dragging him down.

But how has she been a failure? How do we know Biden is pissed off? These are all rumors so far with nothing concrete to back it up. I’m honestly trying to understand if there really is a problem or if this is all hearsay and the game of Telephone.

There is zero chance that the sh*tstorm of negative Harris press in recent days wasn’t orchestrated by the WH.

How has she been a failure? You must not be paying attention. The two signature assignments she’s been given by Biden, voting rights and the border crisis, have both worsened and Harris has done virtually nothing to advance them. She’s pissed that she’s been given difficult assignments but rather than rolling up her sleeves to address them she’s largely ignored them. She was supposed to be the young, energetic foil to Biden’s elderly statesmen but she’s been missing in action. She’s basically invisible save for the rare occasions when she’ll pop into the conversation and inevitably embarrass herself and the administration.

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Anonymous wrote:Coms Director Etienne just quit!

This is turning into a 3 alarm dumpster fire.

More to follow. Hope they get new people in that will tell it like it is and get the ship straight.

But, what if the problem is the Captain and not the Executive Officer?

Kamala is the problem. Her inflated ego is the virtual elephant in the room.

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Anonymous wrote:The LWNJ apologists insist that she is unpopular because ..... drum role...... (RACE CARD IS PLAYED)....she is a non-White women. But, Kamala was chose as VP BECAUSE she is a non-White woman and she's disliked because she has nothing to contribute beyond those facts. There is no good way for Joe to use her because Kamala is talentless.

There's the problem with hiring and promoting based solely on gender and skin color.

What's Joe's talent? Talk about mediocre white men...

If Joe is a no talent hack, then how did he blow Harris out of the water in the primaries? They must mean she is really baaaad. Oh gee, look at that, she is! No wonder she could barely tread water in the primaries.

So funny how WaPo, NYT, Time, Cnn etc. were slobbing all over her and annoying her PUSA before she even stepped into office. Less than a year in, everyone can see how much of a debacle she is.

Off of the coattails of two black men, first Obama and then Clyburn. And this, because the country was craving "normalcy" aka medicore white men. Someone like Kamala has never had the luxury of counting as "normal" in this country, esp. wrt Presidential politics.

Any other questions?

She also performed poorly as a candidate. I’m guessing some of this leaking is payback for her debate comments about Biden and busing.

I never suggested she didn't. The point is about framing. "Hiring because of skin color" rarely comes into the equation for Joe or his ilk because mediocrities like him have been normalized in this country for centuries and been granted much more leeway and bandwidth to fail and learn on the job and ascend through the ranks. The guy was literally hand held through the primaries and general election and had a "lay low, lest my weaknesses be uncovered" strategy pretty much throughout. How inspirational! What exactly is Joe's special talent?

He wasn't Donald Trump, he was the most moderate of the Democrats in the primaries (or he sold himself as such) and he got the thumbs up from Clyburn that delivered him the black vote.

Mediocre lifelong grifter of a politician? Yep, absolutely. But the set of circumstances in 2020 also tells you much of politics is all about being in the right place at the right time plus a good dose of luck.

Just as it was luck for Harris to be the sole black female available with a semi-national profile and the events of 2020 demanded that Biden pick a black running mate.

The problem with Harris is that while she got plenty of leeway throughout her political career in California and then as Senator, she still hasn't learned what it takes to deliver and be competent politician. Exactly how much more time does she need to "learn" what it takes to deliver? She coasted from victory to victory on identity politics grounds and guilt, taking advantage of the importance of symbolism rather than expertise or productivity and running in a state where Democrats have such an enormous inbuilt advantage that all it matters is having a D next to your name. Now her genuine lack of expertise and even outright capabilities is catching up with her.

Those aren't special talents. They are reinforcements of the status quo and prevailing norms.

You whole entire last paragraph could equally apply to Biden, except he's been at it for 50 years . It's just never framed as "identity politics" when it comes to a white male. Maybe that is the point Kamala defenders are trying to make?

Biden was picked by Obama because America wasn't fully ready for the black guy and needed the calming, familiar old white guy as a hedge. More identity politics.

Biden was picked by Obama because: 1) he wasn't a threat and Obama didn't want a strong VP (Delaware was not going to make or break the electoral vote), 2) Biden had a long history in the Senate as a broker of compromises and for much of his tenure he was a regular old moderate with friends on both sides of the aisle, which Obama could see playing well with the voters who were indeed a bit concerned about Obama's own lack of political expertise, and 3) Biden wasn't part of the Clinton machine, and the Clinton machine so dominated Democratic politics and Obama wanted to keep himself as removed from the Clintons as possible.

An earlier poster pointed out that Biden is here today because of two black politicians: Obama and Clyburn. Without either, he'd have retired long ago to his memory care ward of an assisted living facility in Delaware.

The point also remains that Harris was given plenty of opportunities to prove her mettle as a state attorney in California and then senator. She failed on both accounts and it is catching up with her. She is not and cannot ever be a national leader, she is terrible, to be frank. She is disastrous on the camera, she is prone to saying idiotic things that not even Biden does under his current mental condition, she has no real policy or platform of her own beyond being a token face for the Democrats. She's like the Meghan Markle of politics. One can get away with grifting with the right charm (hello Bill Clinton, and even Biden) or by proving your mettle in politics (Hillary Clinton), but she has neither the charm nor the politics. There's a distinct reason why her approval ratings are so bad, in the 20s!

[Anonymous]

You would think Biden would want to keep her around since her approval ratings are even worse than his.

Guess not. But, Biden is not known for his good decision making.

[Anonymous]

Some good analysis here, even, surprisingly, by the poster who credits HRC with some kind of ‘political mettle’.

But no poster has yet spoken the brutal truth: the Democrats of recent decades are an absolute disaster. Kamala is just at the vanguard of their terrible and long-lived dynamics. It’s always been easier for professional Democrats to play their stupid games (and reliably make them stupider) than it is to offer a mea culpa and re-direct themselves, or preferably just quit politics altogether and let a better crew take over.

Kamala does suck and I say that as someone whose world collided with hers long ago. But I know it’s a mistake, and quite possibly the sexism and racism other posters have mentioned, to think she’s a great anomaly in the recent Democratic Party. Own it, folks!

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Anonymous wrote:The LWNJ apologists insist that she is unpopular because ..... drum role...... (RACE CARD IS PLAYED)....she is a non-White women. But, Kamala was chose as VP BECAUSE she is a non-White woman and she's disliked because she has nothing to contribute beyond those facts. There is no good way for Joe to use her because Kamala is talentless.

There's the problem with hiring and promoting based solely on gender and skin color.

What's Joe's talent? Talk about mediocre white men...

If Joe is a no talent hack, then how did he blow Harris out of the water in the primaries? They must mean she is really baaaad. Oh gee, look at that, she is! No wonder she could barely tread water in the primaries.

So funny how WaPo, NYT, Time, Cnn etc. were slobbing all over her and annoying her PUSA before she even stepped into office. Less than a year in, everyone can see how much of a debacle she is.

Off of the coattails of two black men, first Obama and then Clyburn. And this, because the country was craving "normalcy" aka medicore white men. Someone like Kamala has never had the luxury of counting as "normal" in this country, esp. wrt Presidential politics.

Any other questions?

She also performed poorly as a candidate. I’m guessing some of this leaking is payback for her debate comments about Biden and busing.

I never suggested she didn't. The point is about framing. "Hiring because of skin color" rarely comes into the equation for Joe or his ilk because mediocrities like him have been normalized in this country for centuries and been granted much more leeway and bandwidth to fail and learn on the job and ascend through the ranks. The guy was literally hand held through the primaries and general election and had a "lay low, lest my weaknesses be uncovered" strategy pretty much throughout. How inspirational! What exactly is Joe's special talent?

He wasn't Donald Trump, he was the most moderate of the Democrats in the primaries (or he sold himself as such) and he got the thumbs up from Clyburn that delivered him the black vote.

Mediocre lifelong grifter of a politician? Yep, absolutely. But the set of circumstances in 2020 also tells you much of politics is all about being in the right place at the right time plus a good dose of luck.

Just as it was luck for Harris to be the sole black female available with a semi-national profile and the events of 2020 demanded that Biden pick a black running mate.

The problem with Harris is that while she got plenty of leeway throughout her political career in California and then as Senator, she still hasn't learned what it takes to deliver and be competent politician. Exactly how much more time does she need to "learn" what it takes to deliver? She coasted from victory to victory on identity politics grounds and guilt, taking advantage of the importance of symbolism rather than expertise or productivity and running in a state where Democrats have such an enormous inbuilt advantage that all it matters is having a D next to your name. Now her genuine lack of expertise and even outright capabilities is catching up with her.

Those aren't special talents. They are reinforcements of the status quo and prevailing norms.

You whole entire last paragraph could equally apply to Biden, except he's been at it for 50 years . It's just never framed as "identity politics" when it comes to a white male. Maybe that is the point Kamala defenders are trying to make?

Biden was picked by Obama because America wasn't fully ready for the black guy and needed the calming, familiar old white guy as a hedge. More identity politics.

Biden was picked by Obama because: 1) he wasn't a threat and Obama didn't want a strong VP (Delaware was not going to make or break the electoral vote), 2) Biden had a long history in the Senate as a broker of compromises and for much of his tenure he was a regular old moderate with friends on both sides of the aisle, which Obama could see playing well with the voters who were indeed a bit concerned about Obama's own lack of political expertise, and 3) Biden wasn't part of the Clinton machine, and the Clinton machine so dominated Democratic politics and Obama wanted to keep himself as removed from the Clintons as possible.

An earlier poster pointed out that Biden is here today because of two black politicians: Obama and Clyburn. Without either, he'd have retired long ago to his memory care ward of an assisted living facility in Delaware.

The point also remains that Harris was given plenty of opportunities to prove her mettle as a state attorney in California and then senator. She failed on both accounts and it is catching up with her. She is not and cannot ever be a national leader, she is terrible, to be frank. She is disastrous on the camera, she is prone to saying idiotic things that not even Biden does under his current mental condition, she has no real policy or platform of her own beyond being a token face for the Democrats. She's like the Meghan Markle of politics. One can get away with grifting with the right charm (hello Bill Clinton, and even Biden) or by proving your mettle in politics (Hillary Clinton), but she has neither the charm nor the politics. There's a distinct reason why her approval ratings are so bad, in the 20s!

Wow, great analysis!
DP

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The problem is that Harris wants to "be." Not "do."

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Anonymous wrote:The LWNJ apologists insist that she is unpopular because ..... drum role...... (RACE CARD IS PLAYED)....she is a non-White women. But, Kamala was chose as VP BECAUSE she is a non-White woman and she's disliked because she has nothing to contribute beyond those facts. There is no good way for Joe to use her because Kamala is talentless.

There's the problem with hiring and promoting based solely on gender and skin color.

What's Joe's talent? Talk about mediocre white men...

If Joe is a no talent hack, then how did he blow Harris out of the water in the primaries? They must mean she is really baaaad. Oh gee, look at that, she is! No wonder she could barely tread water in the primaries.

So funny how WaPo, NYT, Time, Cnn etc. were slobbing all over her and annoying her PUSA before she even stepped into office. Less than a year in, everyone can see how much of a debacle she is.

Off of the coattails of two black men, first Obama and then Clyburn. And this, because the country was craving "normalcy" aka medicore white men. Someone like Kamala has never had the luxury of counting as "normal" in this country, esp. wrt Presidential politics.

Any other questions?

She also performed poorly as a candidate. I’m guessing some of this leaking is payback for her debate comments about Biden and busing.

I never suggested she didn't. The point is about framing. "Hiring because of skin color" rarely comes into the equation for Joe or his ilk because mediocrities like him have been normalized in this country for centuries and been granted much more leeway and bandwidth to fail and learn on the job and ascend through the ranks. The guy was literally hand held through the primaries and general election and had a "lay low, lest my weaknesses be uncovered" strategy pretty much throughout. How inspirational! What exactly is Joe's special talent?

He wasn't Donald Trump, he was the most moderate of the Democrats in the primaries (or he sold himself as such) and he got the thumbs up from Clyburn that delivered him the black vote.

Mediocre lifelong grifter of a politician? Yep, absolutely. But the set of circumstances in 2020 also tells you much of politics is all about being in the right place at the right time plus a good dose of luck.

Just as it was luck for Harris to be the sole black female available with a semi-national profile and the events of 2020 demanded that Biden pick a black running mate.

The problem with Harris is that while she got plenty of leeway throughout her political career in California and then as Senator, she still hasn't learned what it takes to deliver and be competent politician. Exactly how much more time does she need to "learn" what it takes to deliver? She coasted from victory to victory on identity politics grounds and guilt, taking advantage of the importance of symbolism rather than expertise or productivity and running in a state where Democrats have such an enormous inbuilt advantage that all it matters is having a D next to your name. Now her genuine lack of expertise and even outright capabilities is catching up with her.

Those aren't special talents. They are reinforcements of the status quo and prevailing norms.

You whole entire last paragraph could equally apply to Biden, except he's been at it for 50 years . It's just never framed as "identity politics" when it comes to a white male. Maybe that is the point Kamala defenders are trying to make?

Biden was picked by Obama because America wasn't fully ready for the black guy and needed the calming, familiar old white guy as a hedge. More identity politics.

Biden was picked by Obama because: 1) he wasn't a threat and Obama didn't want a strong VP (Delaware was not going to make or break the electoral vote), 2) Biden had a long history in the Senate as a broker of compromises and for much of his tenure he was a regular old moderate with friends on both sides of the aisle, which Obama could see playing well with the voters who were indeed a bit concerned about Obama's own lack of political expertise, and 3) Biden wasn't part of the Clinton machine, and the Clinton machine so dominated Democratic politics and Obama wanted to keep himself as removed from the Clintons as possible.

An earlier poster pointed out that Biden is here today because of two black politicians: Obama and Clyburn. Without either, he'd have retired long ago to his memory care ward of an assisted living facility in Delaware.

The point also remains that Harris was given plenty of opportunities to prove her mettle as a state attorney in California and then senator. She failed on both accounts and it is catching up with her. She is not and cannot ever be a national leader, she is terrible, to be frank. She is disastrous on the camera, she is prone to saying idiotic things that not even Biden does under his current mental condition, she has no real policy or platform of her own beyond being a token face for the Democrats. She's like the Meghan Markle of politics. One can get away with grifting with the right charm (hello Bill Clinton, and even Biden) or by proving your mettle in politics (Hillary Clinton), but she has neither the charm nor the politics. There's a distinct reason why her approval ratings are so bad, in the 20s!

You can play the same game for Kamala in a identity politics neutral way as well:

Kamala was picked: 1.) because she is one of the most progressive voting senators and Biden the "moderate" needed to shore up support across the party (2.) because she is young and Biden needed an energetic-seeming running mate to counteract claims that he is old and frail and 3.) because she came at the recommendation of Obama to whom Biden owed much of his political fortunes.

Identity politics is the explanation of first impulse for Kamala whereas the neutral ones are the explanation for Biden. Ask yourself why? Why is the explanatory power of id pol for perceived deficiencies so natural and reflexive in the one instance and not the other? Yes, part of it is statements Joe made and his political calculus. But then again those statements and assumptions don't even need to be spoken in the context of picking someone like Joe because it is already back into the cake and normalized. He has always been the default.

I don't think either of them are particularly gifted politicians, but that "impulse" and the weighting of identity politics is what Kamala defenders are pointing to.

[Anonymous]

We really don't need 36 pages of discussion to state the obvious:. Harris sucks and is a huge liability for the Democrats.

[Anonymous]

Joe would have won with Michigan gov. Gretchen Whitmer. And Gretch would have been grinning ear to ear in Washington, not constantly trying to be the star of the show and kick Joe into a retirement home like conniving Kamala.

I think Joe's camp dumps Kamala for Stacey Abrams. Stacey is genuinely sharp and charming, Kamala is genuinely a documented idiot who makes my skin crawl.