Skinny is the new moral/hard working and all other kind of superiority?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Watch at 20:30, please.

Stupid. Cereal, ramen, McDonalds dollar menu are all more money for less food than buying a container of oatmeal, carton of eggs, bag of beans, lentils

Dcum blaming other women, calling them stupid, making the wrong choices, yep, this thread is so, so wrong.

So what should it be called when someone picks cheap junk food over cheap(er) healthy food? Just fine?

Being human

It’s human to be envious, jealous, judgmental, and lazy too. Does that make these okay? We should try to be better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Watch at 20:30, please.

Stupid. Cereal, ramen, McDonalds dollar menu are all more money for less food than buying a container of oatmeal, carton of eggs, bag of beans, lentils

Oatmeal - you also need milk and toppings like berries, peanut butter, honey, etc.

Eggs - need salt, pepper, oil or butter to cook it in, plus people probably want a carbohydrate like a bagel or fruit

Lentils and Beans - need spices, vegetables, etc to make them taste better.

All of those additions start to add up.

No one wants to eat plain, unflavored oatmeal/eggs/beans. Poor people deserve to have flavorful food.

And a dinner of just beans isn’t very filling, and is kind of gross. You need some sides and perhaps a bit of meat, too. That starts to add up.

Also: I live in an area with very high poverty rates. Many people work 2-3 jobs to make ends meet. They don’t have the time or the energy to cook a batch of beans with sides of veggies every day. Often they just have to grab whatever convenience food they can.

[Anonymous]

Stupid. Cereal, ramen, McDonalds dollar menu are all more money for less food than buying a container of oatmeal, carton of eggs, bag of beans, lentils

Oatmeal - you also need milk and toppings like berries, peanut butter, honey, etc.

Eggs - need salt, pepper, oil or butter to cook it in, plus people probably want a carbohydrate like a bagel or fruit

Lentils and Beans - need spices, vegetables, etc to make them taste better.

All of those additions start to add up.

No one wants to eat plain, unflavored oatmeal/eggs/beans. Poor people deserve to have flavorful food.

And a dinner of just beans isn’t very filling, and is kind of gross. You need some sides and perhaps a bit of meat, too. That starts to add up.

Also: I live in an area with very high poverty rates. Many people work 2-3 jobs to make ends meet. They don’t have the time or the energy to cook a batch of beans with sides of veggies every day. Often they just have to grab whatever convenience food they can.
You understand poverty and I feel that is at the core here, we have some pps very detached from the realities of life for the majority of people. Not just in the U.S. around the world. We are doing ok, but were not doing ok for a while, and I would only buy spices at Aldi. It is not impossible, but cooking beans takes about 2 hours. There is just no compassion among some people, no simple feeling of human disease and understanding.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Oatmeal - you also need milk and toppings like berries, peanut butter, honey, etc.

Eggs - need salt, pepper, oil or butter to cook it in, plus people probably want a carbohydrate like a bagel or fruit

Lentils and Beans - need spices, vegetables, etc to make them taste better.

All of those additions start to add up.

No one wants to eat plain, unflavored oatmeal/eggs/beans. Poor people deserve to have flavorful food.

And a dinner of just beans isn’t very filling, and is kind of gross. You need some sides and perhaps a bit of meat, too. That starts to add up.

Also: I live in an area with very high poverty rates. Many people work 2-3 jobs to make ends meet. They don’t have the time or the energy to cook a batch of beans with sides of veggies every day. Often they just have to grab whatever convenience food they can.

Holy excuses, Batman! Also, why do these threads always turn into some “people are only fat because they’re POOR and they can’t help either of those!!!” complaint-fest, when the people posting are undoubtedly a bunch of not poor people struggling with their weight?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Stupid. Cereal, ramen, McDonalds dollar menu are all more money for less food than buying a container of oatmeal, carton of eggs, bag of beans, lentils

Oatmeal - you also need milk and toppings like berries, peanut butter, honey, etc.

Eggs - need salt, pepper, oil or butter to cook it in, plus people probably want a carbohydrate like a bagel or fruit

Lentils and Beans - need spices, vegetables, etc to make them taste better.

All of those additions start to add up.

No one wants to eat plain, unflavored oatmeal/eggs/beans. Poor people deserve to have flavorful food.

And a dinner of just beans isn’t very filling, and is kind of gross. You need some sides and perhaps a bit of meat, too. That starts to add up.

Also: I live in an area with very high poverty rates. Many people work 2-3 jobs to make ends meet. They don’t have the time or the energy to cook a batch of beans with sides of veggies every day. Often they just have to grab whatever convenience food they can.

You understand poverty and I feel that is at the core here, we have some pps very detached from the realities of life for the majority of people. Not just in the U.S. around the world. We are doing ok, but were not doing ok for a while, and I would only buy spices at Aldi. It is not impossible, but cooking beans takes about 2 hours. There is just no compassion among some people, no simple feeling of human disease and understanding.

Sorry, excuses. People all over the world live on basics and survive without the McDonalds dollar menu.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Watch at 20:30, please.

Stupid. Cereal, ramen, McDonalds dollar menu are all more money for less food than buying a container of oatmeal, carton of eggs, bag of beans, lentils

Dcum blaming other women, calling them stupid, making the wrong choices, yep, this thread is so, so wrong.

So what should it be called when someone picks cheap junk food over cheap(er) healthy food? Just fine?

Being human

It’s human to be envious, jealous, judgmental, and lazy too. Does that make these okay? We should try to be better.

SO what's your excuse for not trying to be better?

[Anonymous]

Poverty can mean not having a car to haul groceries, not having electricity for refrigeration and cooking, working at a fast food restaurant that gives you a $5 food credit if you work a 7-hour shift, not having enough refrigerator and/or pantry space to store food, untreated mental illness that makes the organization required for meal planning extremely difficult, etc.

It is absolutely true that people overcome these obstacles, and that everybody should do the best they can do with what they have. But it’s also true that many people really don’t understand the limitations of poverty. (Or the difficulty of overcoming generational habits)

On another note, I hope that someday soon free healthy food is easily accessible. Something like WIC should be for any income bracket and not just for people with little kids. That would make a huge difference. (Yes I want my tax dollars to go to that)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Poverty can mean not having a car to haul groceries, not having electricity for refrigeration and cooking, working at a fast food restaurant that gives you a $5 food credit if you work a 7-hour shift, not having enough refrigerator and/or pantry space to store food, untreated mental illness that makes the organization required for meal planning extremely difficult, etc.

It is absolutely true that people overcome these obstacles, and that everybody should do the best they can do with what they have. But it’s also true that many people really don’t understand the limitations of poverty. (Or the difficulty of overcoming generational habits)

On another note, I hope that someday soon free healthy food is easily accessible. Something like WIC should be for any income bracket and not just for people with little kids. That would make a huge difference. (Yes I want my tax dollars to go to that)

Sure, but why are YOU (not necessarily PP, but all the middle class to upper middle class women posting on this thread) overweight?

Defending the obese poor is a bizarre thing to do to explain the overweight not-poor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Poverty can mean not having a car to haul groceries, not having electricity for refrigeration and cooking, working at a fast food restaurant that gives you a $5 food credit if you work a 7-hour shift, not having enough refrigerator and/or pantry space to store food, untreated mental illness that makes the organization required for meal planning extremely difficult, etc.

It is absolutely true that people overcome these obstacles, and that everybody should do the best they can do with what they have. But it’s also true that many people really don’t understand the limitations of poverty. (Or the difficulty of overcoming generational habits)

On another note, I hope that someday soon free healthy food is easily accessible. Something like WIC should be for any income bracket and not just for people with little kids. That would make a huge difference. (Yes I want my tax dollars to go to that)

Sure, but why are YOU (not necessarily PP, but all the middle class to upper middle class women posting on this thread) overweight?

Defending the obese poor is a bizarre thing to do to explain the overweight not-poor.

Has it occurred to you that there are people on these threads explaining the correlation between poverty and poor diets who aren’t overweight themselves?

[Anonymous]

I've not read this whole thread, but I'm troubled that it's turned into a discussion about poor people being fat vs. rich people being wealthy. Let's admit that also has a black/brown people fat vs. white people skinny connotation. And I would like to see some numbers to back that up before I believe it. I have a feeling that there are just as big a percentage of white people in a comfortable economic bracket who are overweight. These people don't have the excuse of not having access to healthy foods or the time to cook them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Poverty can mean not having a car to haul groceries, not having electricity for refrigeration and cooking, working at a fast food restaurant that gives you a $5 food credit if you work a 7-hour shift, not having enough refrigerator and/or pantry space to store food, untreated mental illness that makes the organization required for meal planning extremely difficult, etc.

It is absolutely true that people overcome these obstacles, and that everybody should do the best they can do with what they have. But it’s also true that many people really don’t understand the limitations of poverty. (Or the difficulty of overcoming generational habits)

On another note, I hope that someday soon free healthy food is easily accessible. Something like WIC should be for any income bracket and not just for people with little kids. That would make a huge difference. (Yes I want my tax dollars to go to that)

Sure, but why are YOU (not necessarily PP, but all the middle class to upper middle class women posting on this thread) overweight?

Defending the obese poor is a bizarre thing to do to explain the overweight not-poor.

Has it occurred to you that there are people on these threads explaining the correlation between poverty and poor diets who aren’t overweight themselves?

Oh it most certainly has! The typical pseudo intellectual elitist talking out of their asses about the correlation and explanations for things with which they have absolutely no experience or expertise! Pretty typical for this area…

[Anonymous]

I eat my oatmeal in the morning with water. Guess I’ve been doing it wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Poverty can mean not having a car to haul groceries, not having electricity for refrigeration and cooking, working at a fast food restaurant that gives you a $5 food credit if you work a 7-hour shift, not having enough refrigerator and/or pantry space to store food, untreated mental illness that makes the organization required for meal planning extremely difficult, etc.

It is absolutely true that people overcome these obstacles, and that everybody should do the best they can do with what they have. But it’s also true that many people really don’t understand the limitations of poverty. (Or the difficulty of overcoming generational habits)

On another note, I hope that someday soon free healthy food is easily accessible. Something like WIC should be for any income bracket and not just for people with little kids. That would make a huge difference. (Yes I want my tax dollars to go to that)

Sure, but why are YOU (not necessarily PP, but all the middle class to upper middle class women posting on this thread) overweight?

Defending the obese poor is a bizarre thing to do to explain the overweight not-poor.

Has it occurred to you that there are people on these threads explaining the correlation between poverty and poor diets who aren’t overweight themselves?

Oh it most certainly has! The typical pseudo intellectual elitist talking out of their asses about the correlation and explanations for things with which they have absolutely no experience or expertise! Pretty typical for this area…

Exactly.

Short form: it’s the cheesecakes fault

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Watch at 20:30, please.

Stupid. Cereal, ramen, McDonalds dollar menu are all more money for less food than buying a container of oatmeal, carton of eggs, bag of beans, lentils

Oatmeal - you also need milk and toppings like berries, peanut butter, honey, etc.

Eggs - need salt, pepper, oil or butter to cook it in, plus people probably want a carbohydrate like a bagel or fruit

Lentils and Beans - need spices, vegetables, etc to make them taste better.

All of those additions start to add up.

No one wants to eat plain, unflavored oatmeal/eggs/beans. Poor people deserve to have flavorful food.

And a dinner of just beans isn’t very filling, and is kind of gross. You need some sides and perhaps a bit of meat, too. That starts to add up.

Also: I live in an area with very high poverty rates. Many people work 2-3 jobs to make ends meet. They don’t have the time or the energy to cook a batch of beans with sides of veggies every day. Often they just have to grab whatever convenience food they can.

Yeah, but plenty of MC and UMC are also obese. I know people who are doctors and other professionals who weigh 350-400 lbs and love buffets, cruises, and Disney World. They post pictures of their steak dinners and sugary cocktails daily. They are all married to each other and were in each other’s wedding party. This problem is not limited to the poor. People in poverty, lacking education, healthcare, living wages, and people with trauma can use societal and policy changes, but there are also a segment of population who reinforce and celebrate their lifestyle with each other.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Poverty can mean not having a car to haul groceries, not having electricity for refrigeration and cooking, working at a fast food restaurant that gives you a $5 food credit if you work a 7-hour shift, not having enough refrigerator and/or pantry space to store food, untreated mental illness that makes the organization required for meal planning extremely difficult, etc.

It is absolutely true that people overcome these obstacles, and that everybody should do the best they can do with what they have. But it’s also true that many people really don’t understand the limitations of poverty. (Or the difficulty of overcoming generational habits)

On another note, I hope that someday soon free healthy food is easily accessible. Something like WIC should be for any income bracket and not just for people with little kids. That would make a huge difference. (Yes I want my tax dollars to go to that)

Sure, but why are YOU (not necessarily PP, but all the middle class to upper middle class women posting on this thread) overweight?

Defending the obese poor is a bizarre thing to do to explain the overweight not-poor.

Has it occurred to you that there are people on these threads explaining the correlation between poverty and poor diets who aren’t overweight themselves?

Oh it most certainly has! The typical pseudo intellectual elitist talking out of their asses about the correlation and explanations for things with which they have absolutely no experience or expertise! Pretty typical for this area…

"Counties with poverty rates of >35% have obesity rates 145% greater than wealthy counties."

https://diabetes.diabetesjournals.org/content/60/11/2667

"Analysis of data from the 2011–2014 National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey (NHANES) examining the association between obesity and education and obesity and income among U.S. adults demonstrate that obesity prevalence patterns by income vary between women and men and by race/Hispanic origin. The prevalence of obesity decreased with increasing income in women (from 45.2% to 29.7%), but there was no difference in obesity prevalence between the lowest (31.5%) and highest (32.6%) income groups among men. Moreover, obesity prevalence was lower among college graduates than among persons with less education for non-Hispanic white women and men, non-Hispanic black women, and Hispanic women, but not for non-Hispanic Asian women and men or non-Hispanic black or Hispanic men. The association between obesity and income or educational level is complex and differs by sex, and race/non-Hispanic origin."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5751581/


"Overall, higher income to needs ratio was protective against childhood obesity. Race, however, interacted with income to needs ratio on odds of childhood obesity, indicating smaller effects for Black compared to White families. Race stratified logistic regressions showed an association between family income and childhood obesity for White but not Black families."

https://www.mdpi.com/2227-9067/5/6/73

This study says that the prevalence of fast food outlets in a neighborhood is correlated with higher obesity in that neighborhood, and lower-income neighborhoods usually have more fast-food outlets:
https://ijbnpa.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12966-018-0699-8