Skinny is the new moral/hard working and all other kind of superiority?

[Anonymous]

The interesting thing that struck me reading this thread was how often people referred to “good choices” vs. “Healthy choices” or “more nutritious choices” . The morality is deeply woven into the topic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Didn't read the rest of this almost certainly hateful thread, but of course OP is right. There are people who really like being stooges of.tbe food industry and being cruel to their fellow humans. Shrug. I think they are miserably unhappy humans who defend junk food manufacturers more than they defend anything else in their lives, including their own kids, but at this point, I think this is a lost generation and I cannot waste mental energy on it. The reckoning with agribusiness will have to wait for another generation to die.

Lol. It’s always someone else’s fault.

Hi miserable unhappy person! You don't have to be so unhappy, you know.

[Anonymous]

Watch at 20:30, please.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Watch at 20:30, please.

Stupid. Cereal, ramen, McDonalds dollar menu are all more money for less food than buying a container of oatmeal, carton of eggs, bag of beans, lentils

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I mean, that is the only conclusion I can come to from reading the other thread. I think it is mostly women posting there. Not only is it a moral superiority, but it is also a way to claim to be a better mom, better cook, better lover, better worker, having your own canning production, your own bread-making skills, having 7 hours to shop as you have to read yogurt labels, drive to Nick's organic farm to get free-range eggs, go to every farmer's market if you have failed to have your own farm and chickens to raise and make your own jam and canned veggies and free-range livestock.

Rather than call out the food industry here for being what it is, an appalling aberration akin to a chemical plant, dcum people have chosen to blame other women and moms. It is not getting older and having hormones go haywire. It is not about having enough time to cook and serve fresh veggies. It is not about being tired and wanting ice cream and just being human. Nope, according to some on dcum, it is an utter failure at any age, and it is your own, not anybody else's, even though 2/3 of the population is overweight. It is a simple way for those to feel morally superior. If they ever admitted that it might not all be their genetics, upbringing, luck in having such choices, or having the time to research all of it, they would admit they are no better than the other in population. What do they have if they admit they are not better than the overweight ones? Nothing but luck or an eating disorder!
It never ends, mom and women shaming by other women.

Rant over. BTW, flame away judgmental "you are to blame" skinnies!

So, women are all helpless victims? Is that your point, OP?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The answer to OP's title is "yes" Though it's not new. Bring overweight hasn't been beautiful or virtuous in the west in since what, late 1800s?

Things that are difficult to achieve become more desirable. In our culture, having the time and money to eat well and exercise is difficult. Therefore being thin and fit is a luxury that is closely associated with being wealthy, aka successful. As with actual wealth, people like to play up the discipline and hard work piece while conveniently omitting the things that give them space to put in that work or actually see success as a result of it.

While the idea of self denial being moral (especially for women) is built into this country's cultural roots, IMO it's not as powerful as people simply wanting to believe that they've acheived whatever they have through hard work.

So well said.

+1

I eat well and exercise for 1-2 hours a day and I can still see that this is the case.

Indeed, you and pps above are the rare few able to discern what many other pps can't or won't. Well said by the pp above, well indeed!

Just eat less. It takes zero extra effort, zero extra time, and actually will save you money. You don’t need some special privilege to eat less, but you do actually need discipline.

This. Not fun, but it is far more consequential to weight than exercise, which does require a meaningful time commitment.

This is all wrong but I especially want to point out that exercise is important to me for weight maintenance. I don’t do it for weight maintenance but it has that effect. I tend to eat more than my body needs when I am bored, anxious, depressed, or if food is just around. When I’m in the midst of exercising none of those things is an issue.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I mean, that is the only conclusion I can come to from reading the other thread. I think it is mostly women posting there. Not only is it a moral superiority, but it is also a way to claim to be a better mom, better cook, better lover, better worker, having your own canning production, your own bread-making skills, having 7 hours to shop as you have to read yogurt labels, drive to Nick's organic farm to get free-range eggs, go to every farmer's market if you have failed to have your own farm and chickens to raise and make your own jam and canned veggies and free-range livestock.

Rather than call out the food industry here for being what it is, an appalling aberration akin to a chemical plant, dcum people have chosen to blame other women and moms. It is not getting older and having hormones go haywire. It is not about having enough time to cook and serve fresh veggies. It is not about being tired and wanting ice cream and just being human. Nope, according to some on dcum, it is an utter failure at any age, and it is your own, not anybody else's, even though 2/3 of the population is overweight. It is a simple way for those to feel morally superior. If they ever admitted that it might not all be their genetics, upbringing, luck in having such choices, or having the time to research all of it, they would admit they are no better than the other in population. What do they have if they admit they are not better than the overweight ones? Nothing but luck or an eating disorder!
It never ends, mom and women shaming by other women.

Rant over. BTW, flame away judgmental "you are to blame" skinnies!

So, women are all helpless victims? Is that your point, OP?

Take a look at what you highlighted, dcum people have chosen to blame... just like you just did. On point.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Watch at 20:30, please.

Stupid. Cereal, ramen, McDonalds dollar menu are all more money for less food than buying a container of oatmeal, carton of eggs, bag of beans, lentils

Dcum blaming other women, calling them stupid, making the wrong choices, yep, this thread is so, so wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Watch at 20:30, please.

Stupid. Cereal, ramen, McDonalds dollar menu are all more money for less food than buying a container of oatmeal, carton of eggs, bag of beans, lentils

Dcum blaming other women, calling them stupid, making the wrong choices, yep, this thread is so, so wrong.

So what should it be called when someone picks cheap junk food over cheap(er) healthy food? Just fine?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Didn't read the rest of this almost certainly hateful thread, but of course OP is right. There are people who really like being stooges of.tbe food industry and being cruel to their fellow humans. Shrug. I think they are miserably unhappy humans who defend junk food manufacturers more than they defend anything else in their lives, including their own kids, but at this point, I think this is a lost generation and I cannot waste mental energy on it. The reckoning with agribusiness will have to wait for another generation to die.

Lol. It’s always someone else’s fault.

Hi miserable unhappy person! You don't have to be so unhappy, you know.

You’re still here, with your poor logic?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Watch at 20:30, please.

Stupid. Cereal, ramen, McDonalds dollar menu are all more money for less food than buying a container of oatmeal, carton of eggs, bag of beans, lentils

I traveled for a week with some relatives who are neither rich nor poor. They spent a lot of money on junk food, processed food, and alcohol. My own family is much more financially well-off but we spent way less money on food than they did. We also weigh a lot less than our extended family. When it was my turn to cook, I cooked a lot faster too even though I made a lot of it from scratch. Learn to cook and learn about nutrition people. I learned as an adult.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Didn't read the rest of this almost certainly hateful thread, but of course OP is right. There are people who really like being stooges of.tbe food industry and being cruel to their fellow humans. Shrug. I think they are miserably unhappy humans who defend junk food manufacturers more than they defend anything else in their lives, including their own kids, but at this point, I think this is a lost generation and I cannot waste mental energy on it. The reckoning with agribusiness will have to wait for another generation to die.

If there is low demand, it wouldn't sell. But, unfortunately, like the ills of gambling, prostitution and drugs, it's not going anywhere soon.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Didn't read the rest of this almost certainly hateful thread, but of course OP is right. There are people who really like being stooges of.tbe food industry and being cruel to their fellow humans. Shrug. I think they are miserably unhappy humans who defend junk food manufacturers more than they defend anything else in their lives, including their own kids, but at this point, I think this is a lost generation and I cannot waste mental energy on it. The reckoning with agribusiness will have to wait for another generation to die.

Lol. It’s always someone else’s fault.

Hi miserable unhappy person! You don't have to be so unhappy, you know.

You’re still here, with your poor logic?

I'm not the miserably unhappy one, poor thing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Watch at 20:30, please.

Stupid. Cereal, ramen, McDonalds dollar menu are all more money for less food than buying a container of oatmeal, carton of eggs, bag of beans, lentils

I traveled for a week with some relatives who are neither rich nor poor. They spent a lot of money on junk food, processed food, and alcohol. My own family is much more financially well-off but we spent way less money on food than they did. We also weigh a lot less than our extended family. When it was my turn to cook, I cooked a lot faster too even though I made a lot of it from scratch. Learn to cook and learn about nutrition people. I learned as an adult.

Why do you think your relatives did not or do not want to learn and eat so much junk food?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Watch at 20:30, please.

Stupid. Cereal, ramen, McDonalds dollar menu are all more money for less food than buying a container of oatmeal, carton of eggs, bag of beans, lentils

Dcum blaming other women, calling them stupid, making the wrong choices, yep, this thread is so, so wrong.

So what should it be called when someone picks cheap junk food over cheap(er) healthy food? Just fine?

Being human