Parents of small children - how are you managing RTO?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Kids in Daycare. Husband and I take turns doing pickup. I almost exclusively drop off. Both of our offices know we have to leave to do kid pick up and it's no a big deal. If one of us has a meeting etc, we just work out who's doing what that day. Easy!

+1. This is how most families I know do it. Daycare and/or aftercare.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why would feds want to move to the private sector when it is apparent that so many of you that work their are soulless dicks. You are jealous and petty.

I work in the private sector and I agree. Some of the comments in this thread. Jeez, people… it’s not hard to be reasonable and empathetic.

yeah I don't want highly intelligent PHD feds coming to compete for my cushy job.

[Anonymous]

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Two income feds are buying million dollar homes.

And how does this hurt you?

Plenty of people saved for major down payments or sold a smaller property to make a down payment. But really it doesn’t actually matter how other people spend their money. You don’t own them.

DP here. It doesn’t matter at all until they insist the reason they can’t RTO is because they can’t afford childcare in their million dollar house. Then it matters. You can’t cry poverty simply because you overspent.

I am not a PP who is on here talking about childcare (just so you know). But you cannot possible tell anyone else on an anonymous website what they deserve or don't deserve or can or cannot afford. You have no real information. This is simply you revealing your petty, nasty biases and your complete lack of empathy and decency.

Look around you. What is happening is unnecessary, unfair, and outrageous. People signed workplace flexibility agreements and they are being ignored because....well no actual reason other than the whims of a crazy billionaire megalomaniac. People are losing their jobs that they care about and are good at for...well, no actual reason other than the whims of a crazy billionaire megalomaniac. Who isn't even doing anything beneficial. He's just torturing people to distract from the real grift. They want no oversight of their unethical deeds. They have said outright that they want to traumatize feds. Just regular people doing their jobs. And jerks like you cheer on the traumatizing and abuse of your fellow citizens who have...done nothing to you, while ignoring the real criminals taking apart our government.

Go away jackass.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Two income feds are buying million dollar homes.

And how does this hurt you?

Plenty of people saved for major down payments or sold a smaller property to make a down payment. But really it doesn’t actually matter how other people spend their money. You don’t own them.

DP here. It doesn’t matter at all until they insist the reason they can’t RTO is because they can’t afford childcare in their million dollar house. Then it matters. You can’t cry poverty simply because you overspent.

I am not a PP who is on here talking about childcare (just so you know). But you cannot possible tell anyone else on an anonymous website what they deserve or don't deserve or can or cannot afford. You have no real information. This is simply you revealing your petty, nasty biases and your complete lack of empathy and decency.

Look around you. What is happening is unnecessary, unfair, and outrageous. People signed workplace flexibility agreements and they are being ignored because....well no actual reason other than the whims of a crazy billionaire megalomaniac. People are losing their jobs that they care about and are good at for...well, no actual reason other than the whims of a crazy billionaire megalomaniac. Who isn't even doing anything beneficial. He's just torturing people to distract from the real grift. They want no oversight of their unethical deeds. They have said outright that they want to traumatize feds. Just regular people doing their jobs. And jerks like you cheer on the traumatizing and abuse of your fellow citizens who have...done nothing to you, while ignoring the real criminals taking apart our government.

Go away jackass.

Its not just the feds who are RTO. My spouse is with a tech company and they were RTO at the beginning of the year. Does it suck? Yes. Is it expensive? Yes Are we making it work? Yes

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Two income feds are buying million dollar homes.

And how does this hurt you?

Plenty of people saved for major down payments or sold a smaller property to make a down payment. But really it doesn’t actually matter how other people spend their money. You don’t own them.

DP here. It doesn’t matter at all until they insist the reason they can’t RTO is because they can’t afford childcare in their million dollar house. Then it matters. You can’t cry poverty simply because you overspent.

I am not a PP who is on here talking about childcare (just so you know). But you cannot possible tell anyone else on an anonymous website what they deserve or don't deserve or can or cannot afford. You have no real information. This is simply you revealing your petty, nasty biases and your complete lack of empathy and decency.

Look around you. What is happening is unnecessary, unfair, and outrageous. People signed workplace flexibility agreements and they are being ignored because....well no actual reason other than the whims of a crazy billionaire megalomaniac. People are losing their jobs that they care about and are good at for...well, no actual reason other than the whims of a crazy billionaire megalomaniac. Who isn't even doing anything beneficial. He's just torturing people to distract from the real grift. They want no oversight of their unethical deeds. They have said outright that they want to traumatize feds. Just regular people doing their jobs. And jerks like you cheer on the traumatizing and abuse of your fellow citizens who have...done nothing to you, while ignoring the real criminals taking apart our government.

Go away jackass.

Perfect summation and spot on X 10000000000000000000.
The thread can now be closed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm tired of people like PPs on here who say we were "spoiled" these last few years. Bullsh*t. We were finally coming closer to having better work situations for families with two working parents. It's not spoiled. It's more practical and better for the whole family, including kids, who most people claim to care so much about.

This is a step backward. Telling people who are upset to put on their big girl panties or similar stupid BS is just ahole behavior. EVERYONE would love flexibility if offered. Of course people with kids don't want to give it up, ESPECIALLY when there is no REAL reason they are doing this in terms of quality of work. This is all to hurt the workers so they'll quit. It's backassward and cruel. Don't be a dick about it.

Of course it's a step backward, I think we can all agree on this, however, you have to deal with your current reality and we're telling you how we did it in the past.

But the past isn't now. OP is asking how people are managing in the current landscape not 3/5/10 years ago.
The landscape is not the same. And you show your rigidity- that you accuse this generation of being- when you say this is what we did before as if before synonymous to now.
It's like people who respond to questions about retirement with well I worked a job and got a pension.....ummm 🤔 great for you. Or how do you handle commutes and they respond well we bought a house 10 years ago in a shady part of DC and fixed it up so we wouldn't have commutes. Right thanks for the tip!

You were all dealt a really tough hand, but at a certain point, you have to stop complaining because it's not looking like this is going to change for another for years, so I think you need to shift the energy you are using to complain and yell at people who are trying to provide good advice here to instead start searching for childcare. I'm certainly not going to give any more to this thread, since you don't think people like me have anything valuable to offer. Bye.

It's called venting and, yes, it's best if you go.

DP but you need to face reality. You can't go on and on about life isn't fair and then yell at people who are offering suggestions. There are really two choices for you AT THIS TIME. Choice One is quit your job and take care of your child (this can be either the husband or the wife) and choice 2 is to find whatever in home daycare or childcare center that will tae you. That's it, those are your choices. I'm really, truly sorry for the situation you are in (I'm right there, too but with older kids, so childcare is not a concern), but this is reality, you need to figure it out and listen to people trying to help you. Perhaps if people posted their location in the daycare and preschool forum, people could help you find spots.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Two income feds are buying million dollar homes.

And how does this hurt you?

Plenty of people saved for major down payments or sold a smaller property to make a down payment. But really it doesn’t actually matter how other people spend their money. You don’t own them.

DP here. It doesn’t matter at all until they insist the reason they can’t RTO is because they can’t afford childcare in their million dollar house. Then it matters. You can’t cry poverty simply because you overspent.

I am not a PP who is on here talking about childcare (just so you know). But you cannot possible tell anyone else on an anonymous website what they deserve or don't deserve or can or cannot afford. You have no real information. This is simply you revealing your petty, nasty biases and your complete lack of empathy and decency.

Look around you. What is happening is unnecessary, unfair, and outrageous. People signed workplace flexibility agreements and they are being ignored because....well no actual reason other than the whims of a crazy billionaire megalomaniac. People are losing their jobs that they care about and are good at for...well, no actual reason other than the whims of a crazy billionaire megalomaniac. Who isn't even doing anything beneficial. He's just torturing people to distract from the real grift. They want no oversight of their unethical deeds. They have said outright that they want to traumatize feds. Just regular people doing their jobs. And jerks like you cheer on the traumatizing and abuse of your fellow citizens who have...done nothing to you, while ignoring the real criminals taking apart our government.

Go away jackass.

NO ONE HERE IS GOING TO TURN TIME BACK AND GET YOUR TELEWORK AGREEMENT BACK UP AND RUNNING.
Why can't you understand that? Stop blaming experienced mothers for your problem. Blame Trump, not us.

[Anonymous]

Truly experienced mothers would not stoop to this pettiness.

[Anonymous]

I work in a cushy semi govt adjacent agency and here is one working moms schedule. She is remote. Has a 3 and 7 year old. Minimum hours include two 15 minute paid breaks and a 30 minute unpaid lunch

She gets up gets kid ready and drops 3 year old off at day care, comes back logs on at 8am, out to bus stop 815 am for 7 year old, back in logs on a bit, showers gets dressed, then some work, then 30 minute lunch, pick up kid bus stop around 340 pm back to work logs off 430 pm and gets kid day care.

She is efficient but really my 84 year mother in law could do this level of work with no stress.

This is not reality for a six figure job,

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Two income feds are buying million dollar homes.

And how does this hurt you?

Plenty of people saved for major down payments or sold a smaller property to make a down payment. But really it doesn’t actually matter how other people spend their money. You don’t own them.

DP here. It doesn’t matter at all until they insist the reason they can’t RTO is because they can’t afford childcare in their million dollar house. Then it matters. You can’t cry poverty simply because you overspent.

I am not a PP who is on here talking about childcare (just so you know). But you cannot possible tell anyone else on an anonymous website what they deserve or don't deserve or can or cannot afford. You have no real information. This is simply you revealing your petty, nasty biases and your complete lack of empathy and decency.

Look around you. What is happening is unnecessary, unfair, and outrageous. People signed workplace flexibility agreements and they are being ignored because....well no actual reason other than the whims of a crazy billionaire megalomaniac. People are losing their jobs that they care about and are good at for...well, no actual reason other than the whims of a crazy billionaire megalomaniac. Who isn't even doing anything beneficial. He's just torturing people to distract from the real grift. They want no oversight of their unethical deeds. They have said outright that they want to traumatize feds. Just regular people doing their jobs. And jerks like you cheer on the traumatizing and abuse of your fellow citizens who have...done nothing to you, while ignoring the real criminals taking apart our government.

Go away jackass.

NO ONE HERE IS GOING TO TURN TIME BACK AND GET YOUR TELEWORK AGREEMENT BACK UP AND RUNNING.
Why can't you understand that? Stop blaming experienced mothers for your problem. Blame Trump, not us.

Are you dim? Do you understand what venting is? No one is blaming PPs for being anything other than being jerks in their "helpful" posts.

If you can't deliver the advice without the judgy nastiness, move along. Too many aholes on here just dumping on further. Feds are getting the shaft here. That's the truth. They have a right to be angry. They have a right to vent. They have a right to expect some grace with the suddenness and brutalness of this current situation.

If you have helpful advice you are ready to deliver with some compassion, have at it. If you are going to say stupid things like "get real" or "make better choices" or tell us a story about how you walked to work uphill both ways wearing heels in the snow while you carried both kids in a backpack to their daycare, go away.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm tired of people like PPs on here who say we were "spoiled" these last few years. Bullsh*t. We were finally coming closer to having better work situations for families with two working parents. It's not spoiled. It's more practical and better for the whole family, including kids, who most people claim to care so much about.

This is a step backward. Telling people who are upset to put on their big girl panties or similar stupid BS is just ahole behavior. EVERYONE would love flexibility if offered. Of course people with kids don't want to give it up, ESPECIALLY when there is no REAL reason they are doing this in terms of quality of work. This is all to hurt the workers so they'll quit. It's backassward and cruel. Don't be a dick about it.

Of course it's a step backward, I think we can all agree on this, however, you have to deal with your current reality and we're telling you how we did it in the past.

But the past isn't now. OP is asking how people are managing in the current landscape not 3/5/10 years ago.
The landscape is not the same. And you show your rigidity- that you accuse this generation of being- when you say this is what we did before as if before synonymous to now.
It's like people who respond to questions about retirement with well I worked a job and got a pension.....ummm 🤔 great for you. Or how do you handle commutes and they respond well we bought a house 10 years ago in a shady part of DC and fixed it up so we wouldn't have commutes. Right thanks for the tip!

You were all dealt a really tough hand, but at a certain point, you have to stop complaining because it's not looking like this is going to change for another for years, so I think you need to shift the energy you are using to complain and yell at people who are trying to provide good advice here to instead start searching for childcare. I'm certainly not going to give any more to this thread, since you don't think people like me have anything valuable to offer. Bye.

It's called venting and, yes, it's best if you go.

DP but you need to face reality. You can't go on and on about life isn't fair and then yell at people who are offering suggestions. There are really two choices for you AT THIS TIME. Choice One is quit your job and take care of your child (this can be either the husband or the wife) and choice 2 is to find whatever in home daycare or childcare center that will tae you. That's it, those are your choices. I'm really, truly sorry for the situation you are in (I'm right there, too but with older kids, so childcare is not a concern), but this is reality, you need to figure it out and listen to people trying to help you. Perhaps if people posted their location in the daycare and preschool forum, people could help you find spots.

Actually, I personally don't. Can you let people vent about their very real anxiety and suffering right now. What is happening is wrong. They'll all get to your frickin choices, sweetheart. How about you if you can't be nice about your advice, you just refrain.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I work in a cushy semi govt adjacent agency and here is one working moms schedule. She is remote. Has a 3 and 7 year old. Minimum hours include two 15 minute paid breaks and a 30 minute unpaid lunch

She gets up gets kid ready and drops 3 year old off at day care, comes back logs on at 8am, out to bus stop 815 am for 7 year old, back in logs on a bit, showers gets dressed, then some work, then 30 minute lunch, pick up kid bus stop around 340 pm back to work logs off 430 pm and gets kid day care.

She is efficient but really my 84 year mother in law could do this level of work with no stress.

This is not reality for a six figure job,

Well if you know ONE person, it's all got to be torn down. Tear it all down.



FFS PP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Two income feds are buying million dollar homes.

And how does this hurt you?

Plenty of people saved for major down payments or sold a smaller property to make a down payment. But really it doesn’t actually matter how other people spend their money. You don’t own them.

DP here. It doesn’t matter at all until they insist the reason they can’t RTO is because they can’t afford childcare in their million dollar house. Then it matters. You can’t cry poverty simply because you overspent.

I am not a PP who is on here talking about childcare (just so you know). But you cannot possible tell anyone else on an anonymous website what they deserve or don't deserve or can or cannot afford. You have no real information. This is simply you revealing your petty, nasty biases and your complete lack of empathy and decency.

Look around you. What is happening is unnecessary, unfair, and outrageous. People signed workplace flexibility agreements and they are being ignored because....well no actual reason other than the whims of a crazy billionaire megalomaniac. People are losing their jobs that they care about and are good at for...well, no actual reason other than the whims of a crazy billionaire megalomaniac. Who isn't even doing anything beneficial. He's just torturing people to distract from the real grift. They want no oversight of their unethical deeds. They have said outright that they want to traumatize feds. Just regular people doing their jobs. And jerks like you cheer on the traumatizing and abuse of your fellow citizens who have...done nothing to you, while ignoring the real criminals taking apart our government.

Go away jackass.

NO ONE HERE IS GOING TO TURN TIME BACK AND GET YOUR TELEWORK AGREEMENT BACK UP AND RUNNING.
Why can't you understand that? Stop blaming experienced mothers for your problem. Blame Trump, not us.

Psst, lady. Work on your reading comprehension before you yell at people. Nobody said anything about turning back time. They just want you to shut up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I work in a cushy semi govt adjacent agency and here is one working moms schedule. She is remote. Has a 3 and 7 year old. Minimum hours include two 15 minute paid breaks and a 30 minute unpaid lunch

She gets up gets kid ready and drops 3 year old off at day care, comes back logs on at 8am, out to bus stop 815 am for 7 year old, back in logs on a bit, showers gets dressed, then some work, then 30 minute lunch, pick up kid bus stop around 340 pm back to work logs off 430 pm and gets kid day care.

She is efficient but really my 84 year mother in law could do this level of work with no stress.

This is not reality for a six figure job,

Well if you know ONE person, it's all got to be torn down. Tear it all down.



FFS PP.

Plus that PP knows a creepy amount of detail about when that coworker showers and whatnot...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I work in a cushy semi govt adjacent agency and here is one working moms schedule. She is remote. Has a 3 and 7 year old. Minimum hours include two 15 minute paid breaks and a 30 minute unpaid lunch

She gets up gets kid ready and drops 3 year old off at day care, comes back logs on at 8am, out to bus stop 815 am for 7 year old, back in logs on a bit, showers gets dressed, then some work, then 30 minute lunch, pick up kid bus stop around 340 pm back to work logs off 430 pm and gets kid day care.

She is efficient but really my 84 year mother in law could do this level of work with no stress.

This is not reality for a six figure job,

Well if you know ONE person, it's all got to be torn down. Tear it all down.



FFS PP.

That’s 95 percent of the moms with young kids my company.