Western High School Boundary Map options (A/B/C/D)

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Anonymous wrote:Claiming its reasonable for white rich people to complain about switching between two rich schools like Chantilly and Oakton but unreasonable for "lesser" people to want to stay at their deemed "lesser" school is so unbelievably entitled, I can't even.

Aren't those schools majority minority?

I'm complaining but i'm not white.

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Anonymous wrote:Are we really supposed to pretend there’s much difference between Centreville and Westfield? The main reason they should move part of Centreville is Westfield to backfill Westfield is that they are so similar. If we’re being honest we all know there’s a bigger difference between Chantilly and Westfield.

Everyone complains about boundary changes when they think they are getting less attention than someone else, but you’re getting less attention precisely because no one seriously thinks it’s a big sacrifice to go to Westfield rather than Centreville or vice versa.

Sorry to say the quiet part out loud but I’m not wrong.

What an obnoxious post. The only preferences that to matter are those of rich, white people? FCPS caved immediately to the demands of RIO, Walney Oaks, and Lees Corner.

The truth hurts, and sometimes it’s needed when the alternative is just more people whining about a potential boundary change because a “me too” mindset sets in. Centreville and Westfield are not that different.

If there is such a huge disparity between Chantilly and Westfield/Centreville then it sounds like some of those wealthy Chantilly/Herndon neighborhoods need to be shifted to balance out the demographics amongst the western schools.

There is not a huge disparity.

Sounds like no one should complain about being moved out of Chantilly or Oakton, in that case.

Unless it is moving them miles and miles away.

I'm not following the logic. Its OK to move the Centreville people miles and miles away because FCPS is just moving them to a different crappy school so they shouldn't care, but its not OK to move more well-off Chantilly families *fewer* miles away.

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Anonymous wrote:Are we really supposed to pretend there’s much difference between Centreville and Westfield? The main reason they should move part of Centreville is Westfield to backfill Westfield is that they are so similar. If we’re being honest we all know there’s a bigger difference between Chantilly and Westfield.

Everyone complains about boundary changes when they think they are getting less attention than someone else, but you’re getting less attention precisely because no one seriously thinks it’s a big sacrifice to go to Westfield rather than Centreville or vice versa.

Sorry to say the quiet part out loud but I’m not wrong.

What an obnoxious post. The only preferences that to matter are those of rich, white people? FCPS caved immediately to the demands of RIO, Walney Oaks, and Lees Corner.

The truth hurts, and sometimes it’s needed when the alternative is just more people whining about a potential boundary change because a “me too” mindset sets in. Centreville and Westfield are not that different.

If there is such a huge disparity between Chantilly and Westfield/Centreville then it sounds like some of those wealthy Chantilly/Herndon neighborhoods need to be shifted to balance out the demographics amongst the western schools.

There is not a huge disparity.

Sounds like no one should complain about being moved out of Chantilly or Oakton, in that case.

Unless it is moving them miles and miles away.

I'm not following the logic. Its OK to move the Centreville people miles and miles away because FCPS is just moving them to a different crappy school so they shouldn't care, but its not OK to move more well-off Chantilly families *fewer* miles away.

Why don't you make your argument based on why you should stay put rather than why someone else should move.

I know why Lee's Corner should not move. There are crystal clear reasons why they should not move that would make sense to anyone reviewing the information. I don't live in that neighborhood, though I live near it.

You have not given reasons why your neighborhood school should stay where you are.

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Anonymous wrote:Are we really supposed to pretend there’s much difference between Centreville and Westfield? The main reason they should move part of Centreville is Westfield to backfill Westfield is that they are so similar. If we’re being honest we all know there’s a bigger difference between Chantilly and Westfield.

Everyone complains about boundary changes when they think they are getting less attention than someone else, but you’re getting less attention precisely because no one seriously thinks it’s a big sacrifice to go to Westfield rather than Centreville or vice versa.

Sorry to say the quiet part out loud but I’m not wrong.

What an obnoxious post. The only preferences that to matter are those of rich, white people? FCPS caved immediately to the demands of RIO, Walney Oaks, and Lees Corner.

The truth hurts, and sometimes it’s needed when the alternative is just more people whining about a potential boundary change because a “me too” mindset sets in. Centreville and Westfield are not that different.

If there is such a huge disparity between Chantilly and Westfield/Centreville then it sounds like some of those wealthy Chantilly/Herndon neighborhoods need to be shifted to balance out the demographics amongst the western schools.

There is not a huge disparity.

Sounds like no one should complain about being moved out of Chantilly or Oakton, in that case.

Unless it is moving them miles and miles away.

+1 why should we get pulled out of Chantilly which is within a 1 mile radius of the school and get sent to Oakton which is almost 8 miles away? We don’t want the traffic.

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Anonymous wrote:Are we really supposed to pretend there’s much difference between Centreville and Westfield? The main reason they should move part of Centreville is Westfield to backfill Westfield is that they are so similar. If we’re being honest we all know there’s a bigger difference between Chantilly and Westfield.

Everyone complains about boundary changes when they think they are getting less attention than someone else, but you’re getting less attention precisely because no one seriously thinks it’s a big sacrifice to go to Westfield rather than Centreville or vice versa.

Sorry to say the quiet part out loud but I’m not wrong.

What an obnoxious post. The only preferences that to matter are those of rich, white people? FCPS caved immediately to the demands of RIO, Walney Oaks, and Lees Corner.

The truth hurts, and sometimes it’s needed when the alternative is just more people whining about a potential boundary change because a “me too” mindset sets in. Centreville and Westfield are not that different.

If there is such a huge disparity between Chantilly and Westfield/Centreville then it sounds like some of those wealthy Chantilly/Herndon neighborhoods need to be shifted to balance out the demographics amongst the western schools.

There is not a huge disparity.

Sounds like no one should complain about being moved out of Chantilly or Oakton, in that case.

Unless it is moving them miles and miles away.

+1 why should we get pulled out of Chantilly which is within a 1 mile radius of the school and get sent to Oakton which is almost 8 miles away? We don’t want the traffic.

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Anonymous wrote:Are we really supposed to pretend there’s much difference between Centreville and Westfield? The main reason they should move part of Centreville is Westfield to backfill Westfield is that they are so similar. If we’re being honest we all know there’s a bigger difference between Chantilly and Westfield.

Everyone complains about boundary changes when they think they are getting less attention than someone else, but you’re getting less attention precisely because no one seriously thinks it’s a big sacrifice to go to Westfield rather than Centreville or vice versa.

Sorry to say the quiet part out loud but I’m not wrong.

What an obnoxious post. The only preferences that to matter are those of rich, white people? FCPS caved immediately to the demands of RIO, Walney Oaks, and Lees Corner.

The truth hurts, and sometimes it’s needed when the alternative is just more people whining about a potential boundary change because a “me too” mindset sets in. Centreville and Westfield are not that different.

If there is such a huge disparity between Chantilly and Westfield/Centreville then it sounds like some of those wealthy Chantilly/Herndon neighborhoods need to be shifted to balance out the demographics amongst the western schools.

There is not a huge disparity.

Sounds like no one should complain about being moved out of Chantilly or Oakton, in that case.

Unless it is moving them miles and miles away.

+1 why should we get pulled out of Chantilly which is within a 1 mile radius of the school and get sent to Oakton which is almost 8 miles away? We don’t want the traffic.

Who is getting moved from Chantilly to Oakton?

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I am just hoping the new maps completely get rid of Scenarios 1&3 which are just so radical.

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Anonymous wrote:Are we really supposed to pretend there’s much difference between Centreville and Westfield? The main reason they should move part of Centreville is Westfield to backfill Westfield is that they are so similar. If we’re being honest we all know there’s a bigger difference between Chantilly and Westfield.

Everyone complains about boundary changes when they think they are getting less attention than someone else, but you’re getting less attention precisely because no one seriously thinks it’s a big sacrifice to go to Westfield rather than Centreville or vice versa.

Sorry to say the quiet part out loud but I’m not wrong.

What an obnoxious post. The only preferences that to matter are those of rich, white people? FCPS caved immediately to the demands of RIO, Walney Oaks, and Lees Corner.

The truth hurts, and sometimes it’s needed when the alternative is just more people whining about a potential boundary change because a “me too” mindset sets in. Centreville and Westfield are not that different.

If there is such a huge disparity between Chantilly and Westfield/Centreville then it sounds like some of those wealthy Chantilly/Herndon neighborhoods need to be shifted to balance out the demographics amongst the western schools.

There is not a huge disparity.

Sounds like no one should complain about being moved out of Chantilly or Oakton, in that case.

Unless it is moving them miles and miles away.

+1 why should we get pulled out of Chantilly which is within a 1 mile radius of the school and get sent to Oakton which is almost 8 miles away? We don’t want the traffic.

Who is getting moved from Chantilly to Oakton?

Highland Oaks in one scenario.

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Highland Oaks in one scenario.-? which scenario is this?

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Anonymous wrote:I heard Meren does not like any of the Scenarios and would propose no boundary changes for elementary schools.

Nobody wants the elementary school boundary changes. We were not expecting those. We were only expecting high school changes.

Yes.

To be fair, I think the middle school boundary changes are acceptable in order to reflect the new high school boundaries.

For example, if Oak Hill moves to Skyview, it makes sense to change their middle school from Franklin to Carson. Likewise, if Crossfield stays at Oakton but every other kid from Carson moves to Skyview, Crossfield should be moved to Franklin.

FCPS really screwed up with how they handled Coates by pushing a bunch of those kids to Floris, which is now at capacity. I wouldn’t be surprised if some sort of those changes to McNair/Floris we see in the final two options.

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Anonymous wrote:I heard Meren does not like any of the Scenarios and would propose no boundary changes for elementary schools.

Nobody wants the elementary school boundary changes. We were not expecting those. We were only expecting high school changes.

Yes.

To be fair, I think the middle school boundary changes are acceptable in order to reflect the new high school boundaries.

For example, if Oak Hill moves to Skyview, it makes sense to change their middle school from Franklin to Carson. Likewise, if Crossfield stays at Oakton but every other kid from Carson moves to Skyview, Crossfield should be moved to Franklin.

FCPS really screwed up with how they handled Coates by pushing a bunch of those kids to Floris, which is now at capacity. I wouldn’t be surprised if some sort of those changes to McNair/Floris we see in the final two options.

Aren't they expecting additional growth in that area? I'm not familiar enough with that area, so I assumed the changes were intended to address these growth patterns. Is that not the case?

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Anonymous wrote:I suspect a lot of Fox Mill parents have signed the rooted petition in the hopes of being sent to Skyview.

Once more: If Meren really wants to continue to support South Lakes, she needs to lobby to get rid of IB. That is what her constituents want. Most of them.

100% someone did an analysis of zip codes and there were a lot of people who live in Fox Mill and Navy zip codes -- far more than people who live in 20171.

20171 is also a Navy zip code fwiw

You are digging yourself into a hole, RIO mom. Just stop. No amount of arguing is going to make your case legitimate.

I’m not a RIO. I’m a Navy mom who was pointing out that 20171 *is* a Navy zip code. And it’s a Navy zip code that’s about to be royally screwed because of them. RIO screwed over our entire school. They’re about to FAFO.

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Anonymous wrote:I heard Meren does not like any of the Scenarios and would propose no boundary changes for elementary schools.

Nobody wants the elementary school boundary changes. We were not expecting those. We were only expecting high school changes.

Yes.

To be fair, I think the middle school boundary changes are acceptable in order to reflect the new high school boundaries.

For example, if Oak Hill moves to Skyview, it makes sense to change their middle school from Franklin to Carson. Likewise, if Crossfield stays at Oakton but every other kid from Carson moves to Skyview, Crossfield should be moved to Franklin.

FCPS really screwed up with how they handled Coates by pushing a bunch of those kids to Floris, which is now at capacity. I wouldn’t be surprised if some sort of those changes to McNair/Floris we see in the final two options.

Aren't they expecting additional growth in that area? I'm not familiar enough with that area, so I assumed the changes were intended to address these growth patterns. Is that not the case?

All 3 scenarios rezone a section of Floris to Fox Mill. I am assuming this is partially to accommodate the Coates boundary change and also because the part of Floris proposed to be rezoned is in the Hunter Mill district.

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Anonymous wrote:I heard Meren does not like any of the Scenarios and would propose no boundary changes for elementary schools.

Nobody wants the elementary school boundary changes. We were not expecting those. We were only expecting high school changes.

Yes.

To be fair, I think the middle school boundary changes are acceptable in order to reflect the new high school boundaries.

For example, if Oak Hill moves to Skyview, it makes sense to change their middle school from Franklin to Carson. Likewise, if Crossfield stays at Oakton but every other kid from Carson moves to Skyview, Crossfield should be moved to Franklin.

FCPS really screwed up with how they handled Coates by pushing a bunch of those kids to Floris, which is now at capacity. I wouldn’t be surprised if some sort of those changes to McNair/Floris we see in the final two options.

Aren't they expecting additional growth in that area? I'm not familiar enough with that area, so I assumed the changes were intended to address these growth patterns. Is that not the case?

All 3 scenarios rezone a section of Floris to Fox Mill. I am assuming this is partially to accommodate the Coates boundary change and also because the part of Floris proposed to be rezoned is in the Hunter Mill district.

Coates was at 140%. They moved some Coates kids to Floris during the comprehensive boundary change, which pushed Floris over 100%. Fox Mill does have some room to take additional kids.

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Anonymous wrote:I heard Meren does not like any of the Scenarios and would propose no boundary changes for elementary schools.

Nobody wants the elementary school boundary changes. We were not expecting those. We were only expecting high school changes.

Yes.

To be fair, I think the middle school boundary changes are acceptable in order to reflect the new high school boundaries.

For example, if Oak Hill moves to Skyview, it makes sense to change their middle school from Franklin to Carson. Likewise, if Crossfield stays at Oakton but every other kid from Carson moves to Skyview, Crossfield should be moved to Franklin.

FCPS really screwed up with how they handled Coates by pushing a bunch of those kids to Floris, which is now at capacity. I wouldn’t be surprised if some sort of those changes to McNair/Floris we see in the final two options.

Aren't they expecting additional growth in that area? I'm not familiar enough with that area, so I assumed the changes were intended to address these growth patterns. Is that not the case?

All 3 scenarios rezone a section of Floris to Fox Mill. I am assuming this is partially to accommodate the Coates boundary change and also because the part of Floris proposed to be rezoned is in the Hunter Mill district.

That makes sense. I think Fox Mill has space and there are neighborhoods that border the Fox Mill ES boundary line. There might be some streets that could be moved as a group.