Western High School Boundary Map options (A/B/C/D)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Its one school system. There aren't special rules or boundaries on what they can consider.

They don't need the School Board to vote in order to consider all reasonable options. The consultants can present them in the materials and Reid can make her selection.

I agree. It’s one school system. A new school was added giving us a chance to create better pyramids. Setting boundaries should always include looking at the entire system. That will reduce future issues.

💯 restricting to some arbitrary bubble is causing consultants more issues. Expand the boundaries a tad, and you’ll find a better, more well thought out plan. Zoom out, XYZ consulting.

The school was purchased to relieve overcrowding in the area. As a plus, it is able to eliminate a particularly long commute to a school that is at maximum enrollment.

The area does not need to be expanded.

As far as setting up logical pyramids, when you have schools in close proximity to one another, that is going to be extremely difficult. For example, Oak Hill is equidistant to Franklin and Carson. Some kids are walkers to Franklin.
Lee's Corner is almost equidistant to Rocky Run and Franklin. Some of Lee's Corner are walkers to Franklin.

Fox Mill is at South Lakes, but I think there is not room for them at Hughes?

I don't know about the other areas of FCPS, but I can see that setting set pyramids is not easy. I think Carson is in the "Oakton" pyramid, and yet in boundary kids are divided among Westfield, South Lakes, and Oakton. And, the nearest high school is actually Chantilly--which has AAP kids at Carson.

You’re a bit mixed up here. Carson only feeds Oakton from their aap cohort. Rocky run feeds the bulk of Chantilly. Carson feeds 5 high schools actually

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Its one school system. There aren't special rules or boundaries on what they can consider.

They don't need the School Board to vote in order to consider all reasonable options. The consultants can present them in the materials and Reid can make her selection.

I agree. It’s one school system. A new school was added giving us a chance to create better pyramids. Setting boundaries should always include looking at the entire system. That will reduce future issues.

💯 restricting to some arbitrary bubble is causing consultants more issues. Expand the boundaries a tad, and you’ll find a better, more well thought out plan. Zoom out, XYZ consulting.

The school was purchased to relieve overcrowding in the area. As a plus, it is able to eliminate a particularly long commute to a school that is at maximum enrollment.

The area does not need to be expanded.

As far as setting up logical pyramids, when you have schools in close proximity to one another, that is going to be extremely difficult. For example, Oak Hill is equidistant to Franklin and Carson. Some kids are walkers to Franklin.
Lee's Corner is almost equidistant to Rocky Run and Franklin. Some of Lee's Corner are walkers to Franklin.

Fox Mill is at South Lakes, but I think there is not room for them at Hughes?

I don't know about the other areas of FCPS, but I can see that setting set pyramids is not easy. I think Carson is in the "Oakton" pyramid, and yet in boundary kids are divided among Westfield, South Lakes, and Oakton. And, the nearest high school is actually Chantilly--which has AAP kids at Carson.

You’re a bit mixed up here. Carson only feeds Oakton from their aap cohort. Rocky run feeds the bulk of Chantilly. Carson feeds 5 high schools actually

No. You are mixed up. Look at the profile. Carson is in the "Oakton" pyramid. However, the only kids that are in boundary for Carson are Crossfield. Crossfield goes to Oakton.. Other schools in boundary for Carson are McNair, Coates, Floris and Fox Mill. So, in boundary kids are split among Westfield, South Lakes, and Oakton.
The only kids that go to Chantilly are AAP from Oak Hill and Lee's Corner and, maybe some Navy?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Crossfield is trying to bully their way into Franklin MS now, displacing Navy families that have been going to Franklin for years.

NO. It's a handful of people. Most Crossfield families want to stay at Carson. Even the ones who want to stay at Oakton.

All three scenarios have Crossfield moving to Franklin, including the one that sends them to Skyview. So they sure did listen to that “handful”.

Franklin is a fine MS, and will be even more fine once they have AAP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Its one school system. There aren't special rules or boundaries on what they can consider.

They don't need the School Board to vote in order to consider all reasonable options. The consultants can present them in the materials and Reid can make her selection.

I agree. It’s one school system. A new school was added giving us a chance to create better pyramids. Setting boundaries should always include looking at the entire system. That will reduce future issues.

💯 restricting to some arbitrary bubble is causing consultants more issues. Expand the boundaries a tad, and you’ll find a better, more well thought out plan. Zoom out, XYZ consulting.

The county-wide study was underway when they bought KAA.

Some of us suggested to them at the time they should pause the county-wide study and prioritize the boundaries for the new high school with the context of the wider study.

They chose to go in a different direction by finishing the county-wide review and then treating the Skyview boundaries as a separate issue limited to five pyramids.

There is next to no chance they’ll revisit that decision. It would be too big of a flip-flop, even for this crowd.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Its one school system. There aren't special rules or boundaries on what they can consider.

They don't need the School Board to vote in order to consider all reasonable options. The consultants can present them in the materials and Reid can make her selection.

I agree. It’s one school system. A new school was added giving us a chance to create better pyramids. Setting boundaries should always include looking at the entire system. That will reduce future issues.

💯 restricting to some arbitrary bubble is causing consultants more issues. Expand the boundaries a tad, and you’ll find a better, more well thought out plan. Zoom out, XYZ consulting.

The school was purchased to relieve overcrowding in the area. As a plus, it is able to eliminate a particularly long commute to a school that is at maximum enrollment.

The area does not need to be expanded.

As far as setting up logical pyramids, when you have schools in close proximity to one another, that is going to be extremely difficult. For example, Oak Hill is equidistant to Franklin and Carson. Some kids are walkers to Franklin.
Lee's Corner is almost equidistant to Rocky Run and Franklin. Some of Lee's Corner are walkers to Franklin.

Fox Mill is at South Lakes, but I think there is not room for them at Hughes?

I don't know about the other areas of FCPS, but I can see that setting set pyramids is not easy. I think Carson is in the "Oakton" pyramid, and yet in boundary kids are divided among Westfield, South Lakes, and Oakton. And, the nearest high school is actually Chantilly--which has AAP kids at Carson.

You’re a bit mixed up here. Carson only feeds Oakton from their aap cohort. Rocky run feeds the bulk of Chantilly. Carson feeds 5 high schools actually

No. You are mixed up. Look at the profile. Carson is in the "Oakton" pyramid. However, the only kids that are in boundary for Carson are Crossfield. Crossfield goes to Oakton.. Other schools in boundary for Carson are McNair, Coates, Floris and Fox Mill. So, in boundary kids are split among Westfield, South Lakes, and Oakton.
The only kids that go to Chantilly are AAP from Oak Hill and Lee's Corner and, maybe some Navy?

DP. This makes no sense. Carson is either in no pyramid, or they are in 5. Not particularly Oakton in any way.

[Anonymous]

Could there come a point where FCPS tires of the in-fighting and announces that it’s putting Skyview back up for sale? Could FCPS flip the property and make a bundle selling to a company that wants to build a new data center?

It seems unlikely, but I don’t think there’s ever been a group of folks less appreciative and less deserving of a new school, or of the efforts to reduce overcrowding at their current schools, than this crowd.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Crossfield is trying to bully their way into Franklin MS now, displacing Navy families that have been going to Franklin for years.

NO. It's a handful of people. Most Crossfield families want to stay at Carson. Even the ones who want to stay at Oakton.

All three scenarios have Crossfield moving to Franklin, including the one that sends them to Skyview. So they sure did listen to that “handful”.

Yep. How on earth did Crossfield manage to maneuver over to Franklin MS when they have been at Carson for years? Oh I know. Because they don’t want to go to Skyview so it makes sense for them not to go to Carson because everyone at Carson will feed into Skyview.

The Crossfields/RIO folks are causing a lot of turmoil. Just send them to Skyview already and stop trying to accommodate this weird twisted gerrymandered school pyramid. Simply because certain communities have the loudest (screechy-est) voice does not mean the silent majority should have to suffer through this nonsense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Its one school system. There aren't special rules or boundaries on what they can consider.

They don't need the School Board to vote in order to consider all reasonable options. The consultants can present them in the materials and Reid can make her selection.

I agree. It’s one school system. A new school was added giving us a chance to create better pyramids. Setting boundaries should always include looking at the entire system. That will reduce future issues.

💯 restricting to some arbitrary bubble is causing consultants more issues. Expand the boundaries a tad, and you’ll find a better, more well thought out plan. Zoom out, XYZ consulting.

The school was purchased to relieve overcrowding in the area. As a plus, it is able to eliminate a particularly long commute to a school that is at maximum enrollment.

The area does not need to be expanded.

As far as setting up logical pyramids, when you have schools in close proximity to one another, that is going to be extremely difficult. For example, Oak Hill is equidistant to Franklin and Carson. Some kids are walkers to Franklin.
Lee's Corner is almost equidistant to Rocky Run and Franklin. Some of Lee's Corner are walkers to Franklin.

Fox Mill is at South Lakes, but I think there is not room for them at Hughes?

I don't know about the other areas of FCPS, but I can see that setting set pyramids is not easy. I think Carson is in the "Oakton" pyramid, and yet in boundary kids are divided among Westfield, South Lakes, and Oakton. And, the nearest high school is actually Chantilly--which has AAP kids at Carson.

You’re a bit mixed up here. Carson only feeds Oakton from their aap cohort. Rocky run feeds the bulk of Chantilly. Carson feeds 5 high schools actually

No. You are mixed up. Look at the profile. Carson is in the "Oakton" pyramid. However, the only kids that are in boundary for Carson are Crossfield. Crossfield goes to Oakton.. Other schools in boundary for Carson are McNair, Coates, Floris and Fox Mill. So, in boundary kids are split among Westfield, South Lakes, and Oakton.
The only kids that go to Chantilly are AAP from Oak Hill and Lee's Corner and, maybe some Navy?

DP. This makes no sense. Carson is either in no pyramid, or they are in 5. Not particularly Oakton in any way.

I think it is probably that the principal answers to the superintendent of the Oakton pyramid on an organizational chart. An organizational thing.

FWIW, Floris, Coates and McNair ar all in Westfield pyramid.
Navy is in Oakton pyramid, but Franklin Middle School.

This area is all mixed up. i'm assuming there may be other areas mixed up, as well.
You can go to the schools page and click on pyramids to check it out.

And, you are correct. It makes no sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Its one school system. There aren't special rules or boundaries on what they can consider.

They don't need the School Board to vote in order to consider all reasonable options. The consultants can present them in the materials and Reid can make her selection.

I agree. It’s one school system. A new school was added giving us a chance to create better pyramids. Setting boundaries should always include looking at the entire system. That will reduce future issues.

💯 restricting to some arbitrary bubble is causing consultants more issues. Expand the boundaries a tad, and you’ll find a better, more well thought out plan. Zoom out, XYZ consulting.

The school was purchased to relieve overcrowding in the area. As a plus, it is able to eliminate a particularly long commute to a school that is at maximum enrollment.

The area does not need to be expanded.

As far as setting up logical pyramids, when you have schools in close proximity to one another, that is going to be extremely difficult. For example, Oak Hill is equidistant to Franklin and Carson. Some kids are walkers to Franklin.
Lee's Corner is almost equidistant to Rocky Run and Franklin. Some of Lee's Corner are walkers to Franklin.

Fox Mill is at South Lakes, but I think there is not room for them at Hughes?

I don't know about the other areas of FCPS, but I can see that setting set pyramids is not easy. I think Carson is in the "Oakton" pyramid, and yet in boundary kids are divided among Westfield, South Lakes, and Oakton. And, the nearest high school is actually Chantilly--which has AAP kids at Carson.

Was looking at the Hughes capacity (95%), so yes I think unless someone gets moved out they wouldn't be able to fit Fox Mill (or any Floris contingent tied to Fox Mill) into Huges. Would put it way over capacity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Its one school system. There aren't special rules or boundaries on what they can consider.

They don't need the School Board to vote in order to consider all reasonable options. The consultants can present them in the materials and Reid can make her selection.

I agree. It’s one school system. A new school was added giving us a chance to create better pyramids. Setting boundaries should always include looking at the entire system. That will reduce future issues.

💯 restricting to some arbitrary bubble is causing consultants more issues. Expand the boundaries a tad, and you’ll find a better, more well thought out plan. Zoom out, XYZ consulting.

The school was purchased to relieve overcrowding in the area. As a plus, it is able to eliminate a particularly long commute to a school that is at maximum enrollment.

The area does not need to be expanded.

As far as setting up logical pyramids, when you have schools in close proximity to one another, that is going to be extremely difficult. For example, Oak Hill is equidistant to Franklin and Carson. Some kids are walkers to Franklin.
Lee's Corner is almost equidistant to Rocky Run and Franklin. Some of Lee's Corner are walkers to Franklin.

Fox Mill is at South Lakes, but I think there is not room for them at Hughes?

I don't know about the other areas of FCPS, but I can see that setting set pyramids is not easy. I think Carson is in the "Oakton" pyramid, and yet in boundary kids are divided among Westfield, South Lakes, and Oakton. And, the nearest high school is actually Chantilly--which has AAP kids at Carson.

You’re a bit mixed up here. Carson only feeds Oakton from their aap cohort. Rocky run feeds the bulk of Chantilly. Carson feeds 5 high schools actually

No. You are mixed up. Look at the profile. Carson is in the "Oakton" pyramid. However, the only kids that are in boundary for Carson are Crossfield. Crossfield goes to Oakton.. Other schools in boundary for Carson are McNair, Coates, Floris and Fox Mill. So, in boundary kids are split among Westfield, South Lakes, and Oakton.
The only kids that go to Chantilly are AAP from Oak Hill and Lee's Corner and, maybe some Navy?

DP. This makes no sense. Carson is either in no pyramid, or they are in 5. Not particularly Oakton in any way.

It used ot be a larger percentage of Carson that went to Oakton. Parts of Floris and Fox Mill used to go to Oakton but were moved in 2008, that is why they are at Carson. They did not move them to Hughes because parents were already pissed off about being moved to SLHS, changing the MS would have caused even bigger issues.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Its one school system. There aren't special rules or boundaries on what they can consider.

They don't need the School Board to vote in order to consider all reasonable options. The consultants can present them in the materials and Reid can make her selection.

I agree. It’s one school system. A new school was added giving us a chance to create better pyramids. Setting boundaries should always include looking at the entire system. That will reduce future issues.

💯 restricting to some arbitrary bubble is causing consultants more issues. Expand the boundaries a tad, and you’ll find a better, more well thought out plan. Zoom out, XYZ consulting.

The school was purchased to relieve overcrowding in the area. As a plus, it is able to eliminate a particularly long commute to a school that is at maximum enrollment.

The area does not need to be expanded.

As far as setting up logical pyramids, when you have schools in close proximity to one another, that is going to be extremely difficult. For example, Oak Hill is equidistant to Franklin and Carson. Some kids are walkers to Franklin.
Lee's Corner is almost equidistant to Rocky Run and Franklin. Some of Lee's Corner are walkers to Franklin.

Fox Mill is at South Lakes, but I think there is not room for them at Hughes?

I don't know about the other areas of FCPS, but I can see that setting set pyramids is not easy. I think Carson is in the "Oakton" pyramid, and yet in boundary kids are divided among Westfield, South Lakes, and Oakton. And, the nearest high school is actually Chantilly--which has AAP kids at Carson.

You’re a bit mixed up here. Carson only feeds Oakton from their aap cohort. Rocky run feeds the bulk of Chantilly. Carson feeds 5 high schools actually

You are dead wrong. The Crossfield non AAP kids who currently attend Carson MS feed into Oakton HS. Navy AAP kids who attend Carson feed into either Oakton HS or Chantilly HS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Crossfield is trying to bully their way into Franklin MS now, displacing Navy families that have been going to Franklin for years.

NO. It's a handful of people. Most Crossfield families want to stay at Carson. Even the ones who want to stay at Oakton.

All three scenarios have Crossfield moving to Franklin, including the one that sends them to Skyview. So they sure did listen to that “handful”.

Yep. How on earth did Crossfield manage to maneuver over to Franklin MS when they have been at Carson for years? Oh I know. Because they don’t want to go to Skyview so it makes sense for them not to go to Carson because everyone at Carson will feed into Skyview.

The Crossfields/RIO folks are causing a lot of turmoil. Just send them to Skyview already and stop trying to accommodate this weird twisted gerrymandered school pyramid. Simply because certain communities have the loudest (screechy-est) voice does not mean the silent majority should have to suffer through this nonsense.

The RIO petition has 71% of signers from 20171 (Oak Hill zip--most of Crossfield population), 22033(Fairfax--Navy population) , and 20191-Reston.

That means about 30% likely have nothing to do with this area.

None of the comments on the petition or the "rooted in Oakton" website have any concrete reason to stay at Oakton other than they don't want their kids at a new school and are worried about property values. They claim to participate in activities in Oakton, but I know most of them participate in CYA activities and shop at Franklin Farm Giant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Crossfield is trying to bully their way into Franklin MS now, displacing Navy families that have been going to Franklin for years.

NO. It's a handful of people. Most Crossfield families want to stay at Carson. Even the ones who want to stay at Oakton.

All three scenarios have Crossfield moving to Franklin, including the one that sends them to Skyview. So they sure did listen to that “handful”.

Yep. How on earth did Crossfield manage to maneuver over to Franklin MS when they have been at Carson for years? Oh I know. Because they don’t want to go to Skyview so it makes sense for them not to go to Carson because everyone at Carson will feed into Skyview.

The Crossfields/RIO folks are causing a lot of turmoil. Just send them to Skyview already and stop trying to accommodate this weird twisted gerrymandered school pyramid. Simply because certain communities have the loudest (screechy-est) voice does not mean the silent majority should have to suffer through this nonsense.

The RIO petition has 71% of signers from 20171 (Oak Hill zip--most of Crossfield population), 22033(Fairfax--Navy population) , and 20191-Reston.

That means about 30% likely have nothing to do with this area.

None of the comments on the petition or the "rooted in Oakton" website have any concrete reason to stay at Oakton other than they don't want their kids at a new school and are worried about property values. They claim to participate in activities in Oakton, but I know most of them participate in CYA activities and shop at Franklin Farm Giant.

+1 they are the furthest from Oakton HS. We need to get this to the media. They ruining the boundaries for everyone with their nonsense.

[Anonymous]

The middle schools in Western Fairfax have always a been a disaster. I think the goal from the Skyview boundary should be that all Middle Schools in the impacted area feed no more than two high schools. Franklin for example should be Oakton and Chantilly...........Carson - Skyview and South Lakes, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The middle schools in Western Fairfax have always a been a disaster. I think the goal from the Skyview boundary should be that all Middle Schools in the impacted area feed no more than two high schools. Franklin for example should be Oakton and Chantilly...........Carson - Skyview and South Lakes, etc.

That’s probably not possible. We need to focus on setting the high school boundaries for Skyview. Then see how overcrowded schools are next year before we start moving kids out of their beloved schools.