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Anonymous wrote:Washington Spirit announces that VA GDA will be based out of Reston Soccer Club. They don't even have an 03 girls team. How is this going to work?

that's just ..... wow

Maybe they are hoping that players will just go there from other clubs and the teams will be created. I'm sure they aren't banking on Reston's teams to create the teams. No 03 as stated, 04s & 02s aren't even at the top of their age group in NCSL. Is there a link to the announcement? Reston doesn't seem capable of supporting this.

Holy cow....what don't you people get...it's not about the club.....it's about the platform and facilities.....the talent comes from the surrounding area and beyond

You must be the one not getting it since you just repeated what I stated but trying to act like an A**. As someone else already pointed out but you clearly must not get, not many fields and coaching staff may not be what is expected for VDA.

meant VA DA.

No...I get it. Do you kow how many fields FCV owns ..ZERO...they own ZERO fields......yet has some of the best kids is NOVA....

my point is....the league platform draws the talent not the club. If FCV didn't have ECNL they wouldn't even exist

Fcv don't have ECNL anymore. They have whatever this is. My daughter is on an FCV ECNL group. We have already reached out to Braddock. In fact 3-4 of our current group have reached out to them.

Are BRYC are already having players tryout?

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Anonymous wrote:So any bets on who will be Spirit VA's technical director? Does Diane Drake leave McLean? Does Eddie Lima seize his chance to head up a program again? Does Terry Foley have a non-compete clause? It's been almost a year so it's about time for Ken Krieger to change jobs. Is Kephern back from Europe?

My bet, another Spirit coach takes the job that no one seems to want, for a DA that will be combined into the Spirit MD Academy in two years.

BRYC winner here, MC lean treads water, Arl. and DC girls have 2-3 good nearby ecnl options.

none of these names will draw enough A team girls for 4 teams. agree with the merger idea, unless enough loudon girls bypass FCV for Reston and form a core.

this market is a better battle of ECNL vs. DA then a lot of the others in the US.

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CCL is a big loser here, with BRYC probably out (because they won't have enough teams for CCL and ECNL), and the quality of Loudoun girls teams going down with their top players going to FCV.

Look for Beach and VaRush to win more State Cup titles as NOVA talent is spread out over more teams.

I'm curious to see if Spirit MD can attract any girls from Bethesda ECNL, which has top quality coaching and currently draws the top players from the MD suburbs

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Anonymous wrote:Posters are focusing on the geographic location of the Virginia DA. One day after the announcement there is still not mention of the partnership on Reston's website. Every other DA that was accepted have strong youth club programs as their foundation. How many of the Reston coaches have "A" licenses? I would suspect few since they don't post their credentials and they don't even field travel teams in some of the age groups that the DA will be competing in. I'm not trying to bash Reston's club because I'm sure the coaches and DOC have good intentions but they don't have the base that the DA could build on. There are too many high level clubs with great infrastructure and top level play to compete against and I don't think the appeal of the DA will be enough to pull from the other top level clubs. Although there is a distance for Washington Spirit admin the best landing spot for their DA would have been Richmond or Hampton Roads.

That's because WS wanted to use the Clubs as a parasite. They wanted full control and to act independently from the Clubs. They wanted only their own trainers/coaches. I don't know what side I'm on because I have t been impressed with the boys DA at local clubs (outside of DC united)--they are just the same travel coaches I wasn't that impressed to begin with. I don't think the training is superior or "Academy-worthy".

You're impressed by DC United's DA coaches? Do any of them stick around for more than a year or two?

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Anonymous wrote:CCL is a big loser here, with BRYC probably out (because they won't have enough teams for CCL and ECNL), and the quality of Loudoun girls teams going down with their top players going to FCV.

Look for Beach and VaRush to win more State Cup titles as NOVA talent is spread out over more teams.

I'm curious to see if Spirit MD can attract any girls from Bethesda ECNL, which has top quality coaching and currently draws the top players from the MD suburbs

I always love how people think State Cup matters.

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Anonymous wrote:CCL is a big loser here, with BRYC probably out (because they won't have enough teams for CCL and ECNL), and the quality of Loudoun girls teams going down with their top players going to FCV.

Look for Beach and VaRush to win more State Cup titles as NOVA talent is spread out over more teams.

I'm curious to see if Spirit MD can attract any girls from Bethesda ECNL, which has top quality coaching and currently draws the top players from the MD suburbs

I think this depends on both the level of the DA teams and whether the practices are up near Baltimore Armour headquarters. There is a lot of coaching talent at the Baltimore Armour boys' DA, and I think if they can offer that on the girls' side they can quickly put together a good team. But Baltimore is awfully hard for Bethesda kids to get to (though some boys from Bethesda, Rockville and Potomac do play for Armour or Baltimore Celtic). Reston would be closer.

It seemed odd to me that Bethesda opted to stay with ECNL instead of applying for a DA spot. I will be curious to see what happens when the dust settles. Very glad my soccer players are boys!

Also agree that CCL is put in a bad position by all the ECNL and DA developments. I wonder if they will go back to just serving southern and central VA? In NoVa, they can't really claim to be an elite league. "We're better than NCSL" is pretty much what they are left with.

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Anonymous wrote:CCL is a big loser here, with BRYC probably out (because they won't have enough teams for CCL and ECNL), and the quality of Loudoun girls teams going down with their top players going to FCV.

Look for Beach and VaRush to win more State Cup titles as NOVA talent is spread out over more teams.

I'm curious to see if Spirit MD can attract any girls from Bethesda ECNL, which has top quality coaching and currently draws the top players from the MD suburbs

I always love how people think State Cup matters.

Yep...no one over U13 cares about State Cup...the best teams in the state don't even play in state cup

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Anonymous wrote:CCL is a big loser here, with BRYC probably out (because they won't have enough teams for CCL and ECNL), and the quality of Loudoun girls teams going down with their top players going to FCV.

Look for Beach and VaRush to win more State Cup titles as NOVA talent is spread out over more teams.

I'm curious to see if Spirit MD can attract any girls from Bethesda ECNL, which has top quality coaching and currently draws the top players from the MD suburbs

I think this depends on both the level of the DA teams and whether the practices are up near Baltimore Armour headquarters. There is a lot of coaching talent at the Baltimore Armour boys' DA, and I think if they can offer that on the girls' side they can quickly put together a good team. But Baltimore is awfully hard for Bethesda kids to get to (though some boys from Bethesda, Rockville and Potomac do play for Armour or Baltimore Celtic). Reston would be closer.

It seemed odd to me that Bethesda opted to stay with ECNL instead of applying for a DA spot. I will be curious to see what happens when the dust settles. Very glad my soccer players are boys!

Also agree that CCL is put in a bad position by all the ECNL and DA developments. I wonder if they will go back to just serving southern and central VA? In NoVa, they can't really claim to be an elite league. "We're better than NCSL" is pretty much what they are left with.

CCL was never....NEVER...considered an Elite league in NOVA.

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Anonymous wrote:I always love how people think State Cup matters.

With the advent of ECNL and now DA, clearly winning State Cup no longer signifies that you're necessarily the best team in the state. But for those non-ECNl teams, winning State Cup does mean you're the best of the non-ECNL teams, and plays a big role in being placed in the top flights of tournaments and showcases, allowing your kids to get seen by more coaches.

So it may not matter as much, but it still matters.

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Anonymous wrote:CCL is a big loser here, with BRYC probably out (because they won't have enough teams for CCL and ECNL), and the quality of Loudoun girls teams going down with their top players going to FCV.

Look for Beach and VaRush to win more State Cup titles as NOVA talent is spread out over more teams.

I'm curious to see if Spirit MD can attract any girls from Bethesda ECNL, which has top quality coaching and currently draws the top players from the MD suburbs

I think this depends on both the level of the DA teams and whether the practices are up near Baltimore Armour headquarters. There is a lot of coaching talent at the Baltimore Armour boys' DA, and I think if they can offer that on the girls' side they can quickly put together a good team. But Baltimore is awfully hard for Bethesda kids to get to (though some boys from Bethesda, Rockville and Potomac do play for Armour or Baltimore Celtic). Reston would be closer.

It seemed odd to me that Bethesda opted to stay with ECNL instead of applying for a DA spot. I will be curious to see what happens when the dust settles. Very glad my soccer players are boys!

Also agree that CCL is put in a bad position by all the ECNL and DA developments. I wonder if they will go back to just serving southern and central VA? In NoVa, they can't really claim to be an elite league. "We're better than NCSL" is pretty much what they are left with.

CCL was never....NEVER...considered an Elite league in NOVA.

Thanks again for your perspective. Always appreciated.

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Anonymous wrote:CCL is a big loser here, with BRYC probably out (because they won't have enough teams for CCL and ECNL), and the quality of Loudoun girls teams going down with their top players going to FCV.

Look for Beach and VaRush to win more State Cup titles as NOVA talent is spread out over more teams.

I'm curious to see if Spirit MD can attract any girls from Bethesda ECNL, which has top quality coaching and currently draws the top players from the MD suburbs

I think this depends on both the level of the DA teams and whether the practices are up near Baltimore Armour headquarters. There is a lot of coaching talent at the Baltimore Armour boys' DA, and I think if they can offer that on the girls' side they can quickly put together a good team. But Baltimore is awfully hard for Bethesda kids to get to (though some boys from Bethesda, Rockville and Potomac do play for Armour or Baltimore Celtic). Reston would be closer.

It seemed odd to me that Bethesda opted to stay with ECNL instead of applying for a DA spot. I will be curious to see what happens when the dust settles. Very glad my soccer players are boys!

Also agree that CCL is put in a bad position by all the ECNL and DA developments. I wonder if they will go back to just serving southern and central VA? In NoVa, they can't really claim to be an elite league. "We're better than NCSL" is pretty much what they are left with.

CCL was never....NEVER...considered an Elite league in NOVA.

Not disputing that, but they certainly have claimed to be an elite league. Not sure they'd be bold enough to try to pull that off with all the restructuring going on. But we'll see!

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Anonymous wrote:CCL is a big loser here, with BRYC probably out (because they won't have enough teams for CCL and ECNL), and the quality of Loudoun girls teams going down with their top players going to FCV.

Look for Beach and VaRush to win more State Cup titles as NOVA talent is spread out over more teams.

I'm curious to see if Spirit MD can attract any girls from Bethesda ECNL, which has top quality coaching and currently draws the top players from the MD suburbs

I think this depends on both the level of the DA teams and whether the practices are up near Baltimore Armour headquarters. There is a lot of coaching talent at the Baltimore Armour boys' DA, and I think if they can offer that on the girls' side they can quickly put together a good team. But Baltimore is awfully hard for Bethesda kids to get to (though some boys from Bethesda, Rockville and Potomac do play for Armour or Baltimore Celtic). Reston would be closer.

It seemed odd to me that Bethesda opted to stay with ECNL instead of applying for a DA spot. I will be curious to see what happens when the dust settles. Very glad my soccer players are boys!

Also agree that CCL is put in a bad position by all the ECNL and DA developments. I wonder if they will go back to just serving southern and central VA? In NoVa, they can't really claim to be an elite league. "We're better than NCSL" is pretty much what they are left with.

CCL was never....NEVER...considered an Elite league in NOVA.

Not disputing that, but they certainly have claimed to be an elite league. Not sure they'd be bold enough to try to pull that off with all the restructuring going on. But we'll see!

What are they supposed to say about themselves? Where the 2nd, now 3rd, best league in the area?

No, it is parents that drive this CCL, and other league hype. I have always said that for U littles CCL is an excellent league but that is it. Beyond that it is just a league, a very well organized league but just a league none the less.

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Anonymous wrote:CCL is a big loser here, with BRYC probably out (because they won't have enough teams for CCL and ECNL), and the quality of Loudoun girls teams going down with their top players going to FCV.

Look for Beach and VaRush to win more State Cup titles as NOVA talent is spread out over more teams.

I'm curious to see if Spirit MD can attract any girls from Bethesda ECNL, which has top quality coaching and currently draws the top players from the MD suburbs

BRYC already have strong teams for both boys and girls. They are going to do really well out of this.

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With as many clubs as there are in NOVA, clubs should really focus on having an all inclusive league where the non-ECNL/DA teams can all compete against each other.

Will Arlington and Loudon lead to the removal of their teams from CCL? Is CCL really better than NCSL or can you find good and bad teams in both leagues.

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Anonymous wrote:With as many clubs as there are in NOVA, clubs should really focus on having an all inclusive league where the non-ECNL/DA teams can all compete against each other.

Will Arlington and Loudon lead to the removal of their teams from CCL? Is CCL really better than NCSL or can you find good and bad teams in both leagues.

please review the past 340 pages of posts for the various opinions so that we don't have to dredge up that debate again