Feds uncover large-scale college entrance exam cheating plot

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Anonymous wrote:I think I’m more fascinated by the proud cheater than the scandal itself. Too dumb to even know he/she did anything wrong because, you know, the money was good.

I think it's the same person arguing that it's the same thing as test prepping. An amoral person trying to justify past actions?

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Anonymous wrote:Right, that’s the same. Lord you’re dumb.

They are comparable because weight loss through diet/exercise is something that you actually have to work for. Test prep is literally available to all students - FREE - through Kahn Academy. Some students take advantage of it, some don't.

Cheating is not the same thing as test prep.

Oh, but to access Kahn Academy you need a computer with the Internets, and only white privileged people have that. Everyone knows public libraries close their doors to blacks and Hispanics and Asians.

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Anonymous wrote:I guess I don’t understand why these people had to bribe their way into universities. If they have that much money and the contacts to go with it, then does it really matter where these kids attend college? Lori Laughlin’s daughter would follow the same career path (influencer or whatever) whether she attends ASU or USC. Let’s not pretend that where these kids go to college really matters because they’re set for life no matter what. How was this worth risking their reputations and getting into legal trouble? The risk truly wasn’t worth the reward. Is it for the parents’ bragging purposes? What was the point?

The indictment and tapes say it was because they wanted guarantees, not to go through the normal, protracted, stressful process. In some cases, their kids at a minimum didn't test well (Huffman's daughter had a 1020 SAT).

Even with connections that score is unlikely to get someone into a selective college without a hook.

My point is—why do these kids NEED to go to a selective college? These aren’t regular joe shmo kids from Anytown USA who need a selective college for a leg up in life. They already have all the advantages in the world. -PP

Because their parents have huge egos. Since they can have everything, why not a Yale graduate kid?

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Anonymous wrote:So was it the entrance exam guy that blew the lid on this whole thing? I want to know who blew the whistle on the entire operation because they deserve some accolades from middle class America.

Good questions. I look forward to that story

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Test prep is not illegal. Creepy? Yeah. But not illegal.

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Anonymous wrote:Down falls another pillar of what used to make us better than many foreign lands.

This headline is THE definitive answer to all of those people who whine about affirmative action.

Affirmative action is for the poor to counter the bribes? Huh ?

This scandal shows that wealthy people are more than willing to use their privilege to cheat their way into institutions that they couldn't get into otherwise.

Black and Latino kids are usually assumed to have only gotten in because of their race.

But I can promise that no AA candidate's mom paid someone to boost their SAT score from 1020 to 1420 they way Huffman did.

Everybody that test preps is paying to boost their kids SAT score.

Are you seriously comparing open/honest test prep with paying someone to actually take the test for you or bribing a university official to help get your kid admitted? That's like comparing dieting and exercising to getting liposuction and tummy tucks. There is a difference between what you actually DO and what is done for you.

I'm saying that test prep does not show the actual ability of the kid compared to the kids that don't test prep.

It's more like give your kid organic veggies and fruits and give another kid oodles of noodles and mac and cheese ... then compare their weight and say your kid worked harder. They didn't... they were given better food. Your kid isn't better... their SAT score is manipulated by the Test prep. If you kid was so smart they would not need to test prep... but since everybody test preps you have to.

It's like football players who don't do steroids are expected to compete against players that do take steroids... it's unfair.

Busting your ass to feed your child well is the same as an athlete taking steroids? What? No one is saying the prepped kids worked harder, simply that neither the parents nor children should be vilified for that and compared to families that pay bribes. Of course it's not an even playing field - what on earth is? - but responsibility for leveling that field doesn't fall to the parents with the [sometimes still quite limited] means to prioritize their children's nutrition and education. How does this need to be explained...

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Anonymous wrote:Right, that’s the same. Lord you’re dumb.

They are comparable because weight loss through diet/exercise is something that you actually have to work for. Test prep is literally available to all students - FREE - through Kahn Academy. Some students take advantage of it, some don't.

Cheating is not the same thing as test prep.

Kids who work after school to support their family and are up early to care for disabled parents, should... you know... just use Kahn academy... because you know... everybody has Internet.

Lady you are soooooooooo privileged you are literally blind.

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Anonymous wrote:Down falls another pillar of what used to make us better than many foreign lands.

This headline is THE definitive answer to all of those people who whine about affirmative action.

Affirmative action is for the poor to counter the bribes? Huh ?

This scandal shows that wealthy people are more than willing to use their privilege to cheat their way into institutions that they couldn't get into otherwise.

Black and Latino kids are usually assumed to have only gotten in because of their race.

But I can promise that no AA candidate's mom paid someone to boost their SAT score from 1020 to 1420 they way Huffman did.

Everybody that test preps is paying to boost their kids SAT score.

Are you seriously comparing open/honest test prep with paying someone to actually take the test for you or bribing a university official to help get your kid admitted? That's like comparing dieting and exercising to getting liposuction and tummy tucks. There is a difference between what you actually DO and what is done for you.

I'm saying that test prep does not show the actual ability of the kid compared to the kids that don't test prep.

It's more like give your kid organic veggies and fruits and give another kid oodles of noodles and mac and cheese ... then compare their weight and say your kid worked harder. They didn't... they were given better food. Your kid isn't better... their SAT score is manipulated by the Test prep. If you kid was so smart they would not need to test prep... but since everybody test preps you have to.

It's like football players who don't do steroids are expected to compete against players that do take steroids... it's unfair.

Busting your ass to feed your child well is the same as an athlete taking steroids? What? No one is saying the prepped kids worked harder, simply that neither the parents nor children should be vilified for that and compared to families that pay bribes. Of course it's not an even playing field - what on earth is? - but responsibility for leveling that field doesn't fall to the parents with the [sometimes still quite limited] means to prioritize their children's nutrition and education. How does this need to be explained...

It doesn't need to be explained but stop complaining when a poor kid with lower SAT scores get into a better college than your kid. It's not affirmative action it's just that your kdis SAT score is not comparable. It's not "better".

[Anonymous]

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I did not get my undergrad in the US, so no dog in this fight.

However, from my perspective, the young adults who pose as other students, the ones who write essays for money, etc, should not be vilified like they have been on this site. At least they are working their brains for money, instead of something else! I have more respect for them than I have for rabid posters insulting them online. They are the products of the immense pressure to obtain brand-name diplomas in our society, just because we give so much more respect and money to people with degrees.

Don't blame the grade providers - blame the ones paying for grades/diplomas, blame the system. And don't forget to vote or run for office yourself, instead of grumbling on the internet.

You have to have an undergrad in the US to argue the ethics of being a part of cheating? You can’t be this dumb. Tell us where you were educated. Please.

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I did not get my undergrad in the US, so no dog in this fight.

However, from my perspective, the young adults who pose as other students, the ones who write essays for money, etc, should not be vilified like they have been on this site. At least they are working their brains for money, instead of something else! I have more respect for them than I have for rabid posters insulting them online. They are the products of the immense pressure to obtain brand-name diplomas in our society, just because we give so much more respect and money to people with degrees.

Don't blame the grade providers - blame the ones paying for grades/diplomas, blame the system. And don't forget to vote or run for office yourself, instead of grumbling on the internet.

You have to have an undergrad in the US to argue the ethics of being a part of cheating? You can’t be this dumb. Tell us where you were educated. Please.

Paris, France. University is free. No need to pay people to cheat for you

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Lori Laughlin’s daighters went to Marymount, a catholic all girls school...... right across the street from UCLA lol

I live in LA and I’m so tired of trees rich entitled celeb kids. I hope all the kids get kicked out and the parents put in jail. All that money, why didn’t they just hire TUTORS?????

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The only people who are surprised by this white people who have been lying to themselves all this time about this so-called “merit” that they think explains why they have such a leg up over minorities. Speaking as a black woman who was a national merit scholar, I worked a lot harder with a lot more honesty to get where I am today than my white peers did.

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Anonymous wrote:So was it the entrance exam guy that blew the lid on this whole thing? I want to know who blew the whistle on the entire operation because they deserve some accolades from middle class America.

This, I want to know who was the whistleblower or what slipup caused the whole thing to become exposed to the feds.

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I did not get my undergrad in the US, so no dog in this fight.

However, from my perspective, the young adults who pose as other students, the ones who write essays for money, etc, should not be vilified like they have been on this site. At least they are working their brains for money, instead of something else! I have more respect for them than I have for rabid posters insulting them online. They are the products of the immense pressure to obtain brand-name diplomas in our society, just because we give so much more respect and money to people with degrees.

Don't blame the grade providers - blame the ones paying for grades/diplomas, blame the system. And don't forget to vote or run for office yourself, instead of grumbling on the internet.

You have to have an undergrad in the US to argue the ethics of being a part of cheating? You can’t be this dumb. Tell us where you were educated. Please.

Paris, France. University is free. No need to pay people to cheat for you

It's the US ... we throw women in jail for being trafficked instead of the dudes who traffic them ... because men just lawyer up.

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Anonymous wrote:

I did not get my undergrad in the US, so no dog in this fight.

However, from my perspective, the young adults who pose as other students, the ones who write essays for money, etc, should not be vilified like they have been on this site. At least they are working their brains for money, instead of something else! I have more respect for them than I have for rabid posters insulting them online. They are the products of the immense pressure to obtain brand-name diplomas in our society, just because we give so much more respect and money to people with degrees.

Don't blame the grade providers - blame the ones paying for grades/diplomas, blame the system. And don't forget to vote or run for office yourself, instead of grumbling on the internet.

You have to have an undergrad in the US to argue the ethics of being a part of cheating? You can’t be this dumb. Tell us where you were educated. Please.

Paris, France. University is free. No need to pay people to cheat for you

Or learn anything, apparently. Hey, thanks for your contribution.