S/O Why do you care if moms stay home?

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Anonymous wrote:I have done both and currently work. Snide comments come from WOHMs for sure. Never heard a SAHM say anything. WOHMs make comments. “Why did they plan x event? Some of us WORK.” Etc

Yeah, I agree with this person. I work full time, but respect sahm a lot. Taking care of kids all day is hard work. Plus, kids should be cared for by someone who LOVES them when they are little. Daycare workers don’t love the kids they watch, and they shouldn’t. Kids deserve to have a family member raising them when they are little, not a stranger in an institution.

Oh come on. I have been both SAHM and WOHM and I can assure you that there as many petty and nasty SAHMs saying stuff about WOHMs as there are petty and nasty WOHMs. This whole poor innocent SAHM routine on DCUM is just stupid.

Fortunately the nasty and mean ones of either group are a very small minority. And you just have to pity them.

Just because this is not true for many other people, doesn't make it a "poor innocent SAHM routine". You sound really nasty and manipulative. Maybe you just surround yourself with nasty people and that's why you think most people talk like this.

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Anonymous wrote:You do realize that "Why go to college if you aren't going to use your degree?" is the compliment to "Why have children if you aren't going to raise them?"

+100000. Perfectly put.

+100001. Love that!

Can someone just be responsible for reposting this every time one of these wars comes up?

Classy SAHMs.

But to be honest if you worked it isn’t like you would be donating the money to the underprivileged, so doesn’t make much difference other then open a slot for a man from OState.

Wut? Nutcase alert.

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Anonymous wrote:I have done both and currently work. Snide comments come from WOHMs for sure. Never heard a SAHM say anything. WOHMs make comments. “Why did they plan x event? Some of us WORK.” Etc

Yeah, I agree with this person. I work full time, but respect sahm a lot. Taking care of kids all day is hard work. Plus, kids should be cared for by someone who LOVES them when they are little. Daycare workers don’t love the kids they watch, and they shouldn’t. Kids deserve to have a family member raising them when they are little, not a stranger in an institution.

Oh come on. I have been both SAHM and WOHM and I can assure you that there as many petty and nasty SAHMs saying stuff about WOHMs as there are petty and nasty WOHMs. This whole poor innocent SAHM routine on DCUM is just stupid.

Fortunately the nasty and mean ones of either group are a very small minority. And you just have to pity them.

Just because this is not true for many other people, doesn't make it a "poor innocent SAHM routine". You sound really nasty and manipulative. Maybe you just surround yourself with nasty people and that's why you think most people talk like this.

DP than the one you are responding to. The truth is that when working moms come on here and talk about nasty things that have been said to us, the SAHM on here always accuse us of making it up or being trolls. But we are supposed to take the things supposedly said to SAHMs oh so seriously.

There are bad actors on both sides, but as a PP said, they are a *minority*, thankfully. Your over-reaction to the PP makes you seem like one of them. You don't like what she said so your response is to lash out. Don't be a bad actor.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You do realize that "Why go to college if you aren't going to use your degree?" is the compliment to "Why have children if you aren't going to raise them?"

+100000. Perfectly put.

+100001. Love that!

Can someone just be responsible for reposting this every time one of these wars comes up?

OMG those things are not equivalent. A little dig about not using your degree, I will grant you, is a stupid and insensitive thing to say. However, it is not equal to saying someone doesn't care about their children, which is exactly what the other one is saying, and the latter is a downright cruel thing to say. If you can't see the difference, your ego is talking.

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Anonymous wrote:I have done both and currently work. Snide comments come from WOHMs for sure. Never heard a SAHM say anything. WOHMs make comments. “Why did they plan x event? Some of us WORK.” Etc

Yeah, I agree with this person. I work full time, but respect sahm a lot. Taking care of kids all day is hard work. Plus, kids should be cared for by someone who LOVES them when they are little. Daycare workers don’t love the kids they watch, and they shouldn’t. Kids deserve to have a family member raising them when they are little, not a stranger in an institution.

Oh come on. I have been both SAHM and WOHM and I can assure you that there as many petty and nasty SAHMs saying stuff about WOHMs as there are petty and nasty WOHMs. This whole poor innocent SAHM routine on DCUM is just stupid.

Fortunately the nasty and mean ones of either group are a very small minority. And you just have to pity them.

Just because this is not true for many other people, doesn't make it a "poor innocent SAHM routine". You sound really nasty and manipulative. Maybe you just surround yourself with nasty people and that's why you think most people talk like this.

DP than the one you are responding to. The truth is that when working moms come on here and talk about nasty things that have been said to us, the SAHM on here always accuse us of making it up or being trolls. But we are supposed to take the things supposedly said to SAHMs oh so seriously.

There are bad actors on both sides, but as a PP said, they are a *minority*, thankfully. Your over-reaction to the PP makes you seem like one of them. You don't like what she said so your response is to lash out. Don't be a bad actor.

Exactly. That PP totally overreacted and is likely one of the nasty ones, given how she lashed out in such a crazy way. And also obviously can't read.

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Anonymous wrote:I care when women go to college and don't use their degrees. They got into a school and took away from a student who may have really wanted to go there.

Ok troll, you're taking up electricity with your misogynist posts that someone else could be using right now.

So true. The ignorance is astounding.

I’m a new poster and I totally agree with pp. The number of women that I know with fancy law degrees that they don’t use - and never really planned to use - is just gross. There are many people - most of them from lower socioeconomic backgrounds than these women - who could’ve made something professionally of themselves with these degrees. One example is a mother to elementary school age kids that literally makes puffy paint decor for camp bunks. That she sells online. Good thing your parents spent 200 K on law school!

What an idiotic premise. Do you actually think someone got shafted from law school because another woman (or man???) "took their place"? Give us all a break. How many people with law degrees ultimately do something totally different professionally? Or any degree, for that matter? I know the field I went into had nothing to do with my actual degree. And now I SAH - but guess what? Life is long and at some point, I'll be using my college degree and/or prior experience to return to work. Amazing, right? And your friend who makes "puffy paint décor"?? What a weird anecdote to trot out. As if this one woman exemplifies all others who take time off from work to SAH. Please, grow up and get a clue.

I work with underprivileged girls. If you don’t see how going to a fancy school that could be life-changing for them and then staying home is incredibly selfish and reeks of privilege, then I can’t help you. But might as well step on them on your way up, right?

It was life changing for me. I practiced for a long time. Now I stay home. The school I attended gave me a full ride and I had the highest LSAT score in my 300 person class. I don’t feel selfish at all for staying home. Totally ridiculous.

I'm glad you consider your children to be your priority. I wish more parents would.

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This world would be a much better place if people would mind their own business.

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Anonymous wrote:I care when women go to college and don't use their degrees. They got into a school and took away from a student who may have really wanted to go there.

Ok troll, you're taking up electricity with your misogynist posts that someone else could be using right now.

So true. The ignorance is astounding.

I’m a new poster and I totally agree with pp. The number of women that I know with fancy law degrees that they don’t use - and never really planned to use - is just gross. There are many people - most of them from lower socioeconomic backgrounds than these women - who could’ve made something professionally of themselves with these degrees. One example is a mother to elementary school age kids that literally makes puffy paint decor for camp bunks. That she sells online. Good thing your parents spent 200 K on law school!

What an idiotic premise. Do you actually think someone got shafted from law school because another woman (or man???) "took their place"? Give us all a break. How many people with law degrees ultimately do something totally different professionally? Or any degree, for that matter? I know the field I went into had nothing to do with my actual degree. And now I SAH - but guess what? Life is long and at some point, I'll be using my college degree and/or prior experience to return to work. Amazing, right? And your friend who makes "puffy paint décor"?? What a weird anecdote to trot out. As if this one woman exemplifies all others who take time off from work to SAH. Please, grow up and get a clue.

I work with underprivileged girls. If you don’t see how going to a fancy school that could be life-changing for them and then staying home is incredibly selfish and reeks of privilege, then I can’t help you. But might as well step on them on your way up, right?

It was life changing for me. I practiced for a long time. Now I stay home. The school I attended gave me a full ride and I had the highest LSAT score in my 300 person class. I don’t feel selfish at all for staying home. Totally ridiculous.

I'm glad you consider your children to be your priority. I wish more parents would.

This is such a ridiculous post. Absent there being a public reporting of people's LSAT scores - surprise there isn't -- this poster is making things up.

I feel like I really don't care how people arrange their lives. I do wish there was more support for working parents but I think there is an undercurrent of F-U, you made bad decisions and can't afford to be home full-time and why should I pay for your bad choices when my awesome ones allowed me the time to enjoy my children without working at all.

It's that thread and undercurrent that sucks, honestly. Most people work because they HAVE to. Most people would love to take time off when their kids are small but can't afford it.

I wish we'd stop the SAHM/WOHM debates because it's just a distraction to keep society from actually supporting all parents even those who can't afford to be home full-time the right to get paid leave to be there and recover after having children.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:You do realize that "Why go to college if you aren't going to use your degree?" is the compliment to "Why have children if you aren't going to raise them?"

+100000. Perfectly put.

+100001. Love that!

Can someone just be responsible for reposting this every time one of these wars comes up?

OMG those things are not equivalent. A little dig about not using your degree, I will grant you, is a stupid and insensitive thing to say. However, it is not equal to saying someone doesn't care about their children, which is exactly what the other one is saying, and the latter is a downright cruel thing to say. If you can't see the difference, your ego is talking.

You misunderstand. It isn't that they cause equal hurt it is that they are equally specious arguments.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I care when women go to college and don't use their degrees. They got into a school and took away from a student who may have really wanted to go there.

Ok troll, you're taking up electricity with your misogynist posts that someone else could be using right now.

So true. The ignorance is astounding.

I’m a new poster and I totally agree with pp. The number of women that I know with fancy law degrees that they don’t use - and never really planned to use - is just gross. There are many people - most of them from lower socioeconomic backgrounds than these women - who could’ve made something professionally of themselves with these degrees. One example is a mother to elementary school age kids that literally makes puffy paint decor for camp bunks. That she sells online. Good thing your parents spent 200 K on law school!

What an idiotic premise. Do you actually think someone got shafted from law school because another woman (or man???) "took their place"? Give us all a break. How many people with law degrees ultimately do something totally different professionally? Or any degree, for that matter? I know the field I went into had nothing to do with my actual degree. And now I SAH - but guess what? Life is long and at some point, I'll be using my college degree and/or prior experience to return to work. Amazing, right? And your friend who makes "puffy paint décor"?? What a weird anecdote to trot out. As if this one woman exemplifies all others who take time off from work to SAH. Please, grow up and get a clue.

I work with underprivileged girls. If you don’t see how going to a fancy school that could be life-changing for them and then staying home is incredibly selfish and reeks of privilege, then I can’t help you. But might as well step on them on your way up, right?

It was life changing for me. I practiced for a long time. Now I stay home. The school I attended gave me a full ride and I had the highest LSAT score in my 300 person class. I don’t feel selfish at all for staying home. Totally ridiculous.

I'm glad you consider your children to be your priority. I wish more parents would.

Yes. All women should stay home. Only fathers should have rewarding careers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You do realize that "Why go to college if you aren't going to use your degree?" is the compliment to "Why have children if you aren't going to raise them?"

+100000. Perfectly put.

+100001. Love that!

Can someone just be responsible for reposting this every time one of these wars comes up?

OMG those things are not equivalent. A little dig about not using your degree, I will grant you, is a stupid and insensitive thing to say. However, it is not equal to saying someone doesn't care about their children, which is exactly what the other one is saying, and the latter is a downright cruel thing to say. If you can't see the difference, your ego is talking.

You misunderstand. It isn't that they cause equal hurt it is that they are equally specious arguments.

I will 100% agree with that.

[Anonymous]

Some people also stay home with their children bc daycare and aftercare costs more than their salary... or maybe because their children have special needs that require a lot of attention that a typical full time job won’t accomodate.

SAHMing is not just for the rich.

I went to college and got a degree and I don’t believe for a second I took the place of someone who would have “done something” with their life. Being college educated isn’t just for work.

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Anonymous wrote:I care when women go to college and don't use their degrees. They got into a school and took away from a student who may have really wanted to go there.

Ok troll, you're taking up electricity with your misogynist posts that someone else could be using right now.

So true. The ignorance is astounding.

I’m a new poster and I totally agree with pp. The number of women that I know with fancy law degrees that they don’t use - and never really planned to use - is just gross. There are many people - most of them from lower socioeconomic backgrounds than these women - who could’ve made something professionally of themselves with these degrees. One example is a mother to elementary school age kids that literally makes puffy paint decor for camp bunks. That she sells online. Good thing your parents spent 200 K on law school!

What an idiotic premise. Do you actually think someone got shafted from law school because another woman (or man???) "took their place"? Give us all a break. How many people with law degrees ultimately do something totally different professionally? Or any degree, for that matter? I know the field I went into had nothing to do with my actual degree. And now I SAH - but guess what? Life is long and at some point, I'll be using my college degree and/or prior experience to return to work. Amazing, right? And your friend who makes "puffy paint décor"?? What a weird anecdote to trot out. As if this one woman exemplifies all others who take time off from work to SAH. Please, grow up and get a clue.

I work with underprivileged girls. If you don’t see how going to a fancy school that could be life-changing for them and then staying home is incredibly selfish and reeks of privilege, then I can’t help you. But might as well step on them on your way up, right?

It was life changing for me. I practiced for a long time. Now I stay home. The school I attended gave me a full ride and I had the highest LSAT score in my 300 person class. I don’t feel selfish at all for staying home. Totally ridiculous.

I'm glad you consider your children to be your priority. I wish more parents would.

Yes. All women should stay home. Only fathers should have rewarding careers.

Don’t forget completely being blind to the hypocrisy of devoting their lives to enriching their daughters’ with activities, top
schools etc - yet those same daughters would be terrible mothers if they didn’t stay home once they had their own kids. Hmmm.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I care when women go to college and don't use their degrees. They got into a school and took away from a student who may have really wanted to go there.

Ok troll, you're taking up electricity with your misogynist posts that someone else could be using right now.

So true. The ignorance is astounding.

I’m a new poster and I totally agree with pp. The number of women that I know with fancy law degrees that they don’t use - and never really planned to use - is just gross. There are many people - most of them from lower socioeconomic backgrounds than these women - who could’ve made something professionally of themselves with these degrees. One example is a mother to elementary school age kids that literally makes puffy paint decor for camp bunks. That she sells online. Good thing your parents spent 200 K on law school!

What an idiotic premise. Do you actually think someone got shafted from law school because another woman (or man???) "took their place"? Give us all a break. How many people with law degrees ultimately do something totally different professionally? Or any degree, for that matter? I know the field I went into had nothing to do with my actual degree. And now I SAH - but guess what? Life is long and at some point, I'll be using my college degree and/or prior experience to return to work. Amazing, right? And your friend who makes "puffy paint décor"?? What a weird anecdote to trot out. As if this one woman exemplifies all others who take time off from work to SAH. Please, grow up and get a clue.

I work with underprivileged girls. If you don’t see how going to a fancy school that could be life-changing for them and then staying home is incredibly selfish and reeks of privilege, then I can’t help you. But might as well step on them on your way up, right?

It was life changing for me. I practiced for a long time. Now I stay home. The school I attended gave me a full ride and I had the highest LSAT score in my 300 person class. I don’t feel selfish at all for staying home. Totally ridiculous.

I'm glad you consider your children to be your priority. I wish more parents would.

This is such a ridiculous post. Absent there being a public reporting of people's LSAT scores - surprise there isn't -- this poster is making things up.

I feel like I really don't care how people arrange their lives. I do wish there was more support for working parents but I think there is an undercurrent of F-U, you made bad decisions and can't afford to be home full-time and why should I pay for your bad choices when my awesome ones allowed me the time to enjoy my children without working at all.

It's that thread and undercurrent that sucks, honestly. Most people work because they HAVE to. Most people would love to take time off when their kids are small but can't afford it.

I wish we'd stop the SAHM/WOHM debates because it's just a distraction to keep society from actually supporting all parents even those who can't afford to be home full-time the right to get paid leave to be there and recover after having children.

My school absolutely reports LSAT scores. They give the range, median, mean, 25th% and 75th% by year. They like to show upward trends.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I care when women go to college and don't use their degrees. They got into a school and took away from a student who may have really wanted to go there.

Ok troll, you're taking up electricity with your misogynist posts that someone else could be using right now.

So true. The ignorance is astounding.

I’m a new poster and I totally agree with pp. The number of women that I know with fancy law degrees that they don’t use - and never really planned to use - is just gross. There are many people - most of them from lower socioeconomic backgrounds than these women - who could’ve made something professionally of themselves with these degrees. One example is a mother to elementary school age kids that literally makes puffy paint decor for camp bunks. That she sells online. Good thing your parents spent 200 K on law school!

What an idiotic premise. Do you actually think someone got shafted from law school because another woman (or man???) "took their place"? Give us all a break. How many people with law degrees ultimately do something totally different professionally? Or any degree, for that matter? I know the field I went into had nothing to do with my actual degree. And now I SAH - but guess what? Life is long and at some point, I'll be using my college degree and/or prior experience to return to work. Amazing, right? And your friend who makes "puffy paint décor"?? What a weird anecdote to trot out. As if this one woman exemplifies all others who take time off from work to SAH. Please, grow up and get a clue.

I work with underprivileged girls. If you don’t see how going to a fancy school that could be life-changing for them and then staying home is incredibly selfish and reeks of privilege, then I can’t help you. But might as well step on them on your way up, right?

It was life changing for me. I practiced for a long time. Now I stay home. The school I attended gave me a full ride and I had the highest LSAT score in my 300 person class. I don’t feel selfish at all for staying home. Totally ridiculous.

I'm glad you consider your children to be your priority. I wish more parents would.

Yes. All women should stay home. Only fathers should have rewarding careers.

Don’t forget completely being blind to the hypocrisy of devoting their lives to enriching their daughters’ with activities, top
schools etc - yet those same daughters would be terrible mothers if they didn’t stay home once they had their own kids. Hmmm.

Ehh. I stay home for me. It is easier. Life was too difficult once I had more than one kid. So I stopped working. I hope my kids have options. I have no desire for them to have as hard of a life as possible. Life is too short. Do what you want. It is a great privilege.