Johnny Depp trial in Fairfax County

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Anonymous wrote:Before this trial, I though Depp was guilty. After watching and seeing his abuse from his mother and his addictions and his mannerisms, I believe he is innocent in that he did not lay a hand on her.

Was he crude, a drunk, obnoxious, druggie, selfish? Yes. Doesn’t mean he hit her. No proof.

I believe he is trying to clear his name for this and I believe him when I 100 percent believed Amber a week ago. She is the nutty one who is looking for fame and the only one who has been accused of physical abuse also while she is on tape admitting she hit him.

Amber just had a court case with Elon Musk for their embryos. Elon wanted them destroyed. Their baby just turned one via surrogate. She is looking for money and fame and is the one who physically abuses.

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To be fair, I kind of respect this. If I were single, wanted a baby, and had the chance to have a child fathered by Elon Musk, I would do it. Not because of his $$, but because of his intellect. If you are shopping for donor sperm, you can’t get much better than Elon Musk.

I hope the baby has his brilliance and none of her craziness.

He’s a d*ck.

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They have a 22 year age gap.

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Anonymous wrote:I just don't find him credible when he testifies to what he was doing when he was drunk and high out of his mind. He says he didn't hit her but he punched the wall near her head (that's abuse btw! How is that not abuse?!) on the plane. Later on he was absolutely passed out. How are we to believe he remembers what he did or didn't do when he was high? Of course he wants to believe he wouldn't do something like that, but here's a guy writing insults in blood and paint all over the wall. (Isn't that abuse, too? Accusing your wife of sleeping with another actor and painting it all over the house wtf?)

I didn't see the later stuff. Was there some sort of video?

The video consisted of him slamming cabinets around, clearly angry and she’s asking him what happened and what’s wrong and he’s acting really angry at her saying “oh, NOTHING HAPPENED TO YOU TODAY” in a menacing voice. Meanwhile he’s just slamming shit around the kitchen, notices she’s recording and then advances saying “Are you recording this?” And then there’s some scuffle for the camera.

It was not good. It made me want to hide under a table.

Made even worse when Depp on the stand said “If she was so scared why didn’t she leave?” There’s a winning argument.

Wow. That behavior is scary and that comment is almost worse.

Kinda logical question though...

You clearly don't know anything about the dynamics of domestic violence. Often when you try to leave is when you get hurt. And I ABSOLUTELY sympathize with her in trying to record the violence. When your partner is crazy but only to you, it's hard to get other people to believe you. Other people think your partner is great! They wouldn't believe it unless you showed them that your partner would actually be acting like a crazy jerk. That's why the tape itself is more important. People wouldn't believe Depp would act crazy like this without seeing it themselves.

He should have recorded her craziness.

He did. That is why people are saying she is abusive as well. We’ve heard her.

What exactly? We heard some recordings from their therapist. But during their marriage he simply wasn't on a mission to destroy her by collecting evidence.

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Anonymous wrote:Before this trial, I though Depp was guilty. After watching and seeing his abuse from his mother and his addictions and his mannerisms, I believe he is innocent in that he did not lay a hand on her.

Was he crude, a drunk, obnoxious, druggie, selfish? Yes. Doesn’t mean he hit her. No proof.

I believe he is trying to clear his name for this and I believe him when I 100 percent believed Amber a week ago. She is the nutty one who is looking for fame and the only one who has been accused of physical abuse also while she is on tape admitting she hit him.

Amber just had a court case with Elon Musk for their embryos. Elon wanted them destroyed. Their baby just turned one via surrogate. She is looking for money and fame and is the one who physically abuses.

🤯

To be fair, I kind of respect this. If I were single, wanted a baby, and had the chance to have a child fathered by Elon Musk, I would do it. Not because of his $$, but because of his intellect. If you are shopping for donor sperm, you can’t get much better than Elon Musk.

I hope the baby has his brilliance and none of her craziness.

He’s a d*ck.

Oh it's you again. Hi EM hater!

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Anonymous wrote:I just don't find him credible when he testifies to what he was doing when he was drunk and high out of his mind. He says he didn't hit her but he punched the wall near her head (that's abuse btw! How is that not abuse?!) on the plane. Later on he was absolutely passed out. How are we to believe he remembers what he did or didn't do when he was high? Of course he wants to believe he wouldn't do something like that, but here's a guy writing insults in blood and paint all over the wall. (Isn't that abuse, too? Accusing your wife of sleeping with another actor and painting it all over the house wtf?)

I didn't see the later stuff. Was there some sort of video?

The video consisted of him slamming cabinets around, clearly angry and she’s asking him what happened and what’s wrong and he’s acting really angry at her saying “oh, NOTHING HAPPENED TO YOU TODAY” in a menacing voice. Meanwhile he’s just slamming shit around the kitchen, notices she’s recording and then advances saying “Are you recording this?” And then there’s some scuffle for the camera.

It was not good. It made me want to hide under a table.

Made even worse when Depp on the stand said “If she was so scared why didn’t she leave?” There’s a winning argument.

Wow. That behavior is scary and that comment is almost worse.

Kinda logical question though...

You clearly don't know anything about the dynamics of domestic violence. Often when you try to leave is when you get hurt. And I ABSOLUTELY sympathize with her in trying to record the violence. When your partner is crazy but only to you, it's hard to get other people to believe you. Other people think your partner is great! They wouldn't believe it unless you showed them that your partner would actually be acting like a crazy jerk. That's why the tape itself is more important. People wouldn't believe Depp would act crazy like this without seeing it themselves.

He should have recorded her craziness.

He did. That is why people are saying she is abusive as well. We’ve heard her.

What exactly? We heard some recordings from their therapist. But during their marriage he simply wasn't on a mission to destroy her by collecting evidence.

Like she was?

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Anonymous wrote:Before this trial, I though Depp was guilty. After watching and seeing his abuse from his mother and his addictions and his mannerisms, I believe he is innocent in that he did not lay a hand on her.

Was he crude, a drunk, obnoxious, druggie, selfish? Yes. Doesn’t mean he hit her. No proof.

I believe he is trying to clear his name for this and I believe him when I 100 percent believed Amber a week ago. She is the nutty one who is looking for fame and the only one who has been accused of physical abuse also while she is on tape admitting she hit him.

Amber just had a court case with Elon Musk for their embryos. Elon wanted them destroyed. Their baby just turned one via surrogate. She is looking for money and fame and is the one who physically abuses.

🤯

To be fair, I kind of respect this. If I were single, wanted a baby, and had the chance to have a child fathered by Elon Musk, I would do it. Not because of his $$, but because of his intellect. If you are shopping for donor sperm, you can’t get much better than Elon Musk.

I hope the baby has his brilliance and none of her craziness.

I just hadn’t heard the story before. So he ended up allowing her to keep and use the embryos?

I can't find a credible source for this.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ive-seen-how-institutions-protect-men-accused-of-abuse-heres-what-we-can-do/2018/12/18/71fd876a-02ed-11e9-b5df-5d3874f1ac36_story.html

Here’s her op-ed, for those who would like a refresher.

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Anonymous wrote:So it's totally normal to be in a relationship where your partner walks around slamming cabinets and breaking glass (I'm pretty sure he tossed something glass in there and it broke) violently and yelling condescendingly at you as you ask him what happened, because a little while ago when you woe up he was in a good mood. That's totally normal.

Also for your partner to write degrading messages to you in blood all over the house you're staying in together. That also sounds totally normal.

I can understand not liking her. There is a more loving and loyal path to take here as the spouse I guess. But I also don't think you necessarily owe loyalty and love to a an addicted person who can't control their behavior around you and is petulant to you all the time. Like, when he apologized to her by text for something terrible he did and she didn't immediately forgive him, his immediate response was "well I see forgiveness and understanding are off the menu." or something like that. He is such a petulant child expecting everything to be easy for him even though his behavior is appalling.

It is abuse to write degrading comments about your partner on the walls. THE END. That's abusive.

The things you name here are at least as normal as…purposely defecating on your spouse’s side of the bed. She even took care to place the poo so that he would lay on it when he put up the sheet and got in bed. To me this was detail was as shocking as anything I heard Depp has done. She’s grotesquely immature and a little crazy. He’s an alcoholic opiate addict, clearly damaged from his own abusive childhood. I don’t think it is possible to say one is worse or more abusive than the other.

I didn't actually see that part. But if she did that, yeah that's totally gross. And probably abusive, too, if that was her dynamic with him and not some weird thing wtf.

BUT I still think it's abusive to write degrading comments about your partner in blood etc. all over the walls. Everybody here seems to be saying you have to hit your partner for it to be abuse, but that's not the standard. And he seems awful. Maybe she should have left. Why didn't HE leave, btw, if she was so awful?

At the time, he credited her with getting him through his detox, and told her parents he owed it all to her and she was an angel. But now that he hates her he complains that actually she didn't give him his drugs fast enough. (He conveniently leaves out the part that she was told not to give him the drugs too early, and that she did actually summon doctors to the place to help him so they could make the call about giving him drugs early -- no, she was a demon!)

I haven't watched the whole thing so maybe I've gotten a skewed view, but I did hear a lot of his testimony yesterday (which was supposed to be positive for him) and I did not like him. I have known abusers and he has that "this is somebody else's fault not my fault -- it's your fault for making me angry!" demeanor.

He also said what he wrote in blood (and paint) were “reminders” to her of promises they made or something along those lines. If that’s true, I fail to see how “Starring Billy Bob and Easy Amber” is a reminder of anything other than he’s seriously insecure and jealous and hates that she did photo shoots and movies not involving him.

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Anonymous wrote:So it's totally normal to be in a relationship where your partner walks around slamming cabinets and breaking glass (I'm pretty sure he tossed something glass in there and it broke) violently and yelling condescendingly at you as you ask him what happened, because a little while ago when you woe up he was in a good mood. That's totally normal.

Also for your partner to write degrading messages to you in blood all over the house you're staying in together. That also sounds totally normal.

I can understand not liking her. There is a more loving and loyal path to take here as the spouse I guess. But I also don't think you necessarily owe loyalty and love to a an addicted person who can't control their behavior around you and is petulant to you all the time. Like, when he apologized to her by text for something terrible he did and she didn't immediately forgive him, his immediate response was "well I see forgiveness and understanding are off the menu." or something like that. He is such a petulant child expecting everything to be easy for him even though his behavior is appalling.

It is abuse to write degrading comments about your partner on the walls. THE END. That's abusive.

The things you name here are at least as normal as…purposely defecating on your spouse’s side of the bed. She even took care to place the poo so that he would lay on it when he put up the sheet and got in bed. To me this was detail was as shocking as anything I heard Depp has done. She’s grotesquely immature and a little crazy. He’s an alcoholic opiate addict, clearly damaged from his own abusive childhood. I don’t think it is possible to say one is worse or more abusive than the other.

I didn't actually see that part. But if she did that, yeah that's totally gross. And probably abusive, too, if that was her dynamic with him and not some weird thing wtf.

BUT I still think it's abusive to write degrading comments about your partner in blood etc. all over the walls. Everybody here seems to be saying you have to hit your partner for it to be abuse, but that's not the standard. And he seems awful. Maybe she should have left. Why didn't HE leave, btw, if she was so awful?

At the time, he credited her with getting him through his detox, and told her parents he owed it all to her and she was an angel. But now that he hates her he complains that actually she didn't give him his drugs fast enough. (He conveniently leaves out the part that she was told not to give him the drugs too early, and that she did actually summon doctors to the place to help him so they could make the call about giving him drugs early -- no, she was a demon!)

I haven't watched the whole thing so maybe I've gotten a skewed view, but I did hear a lot of his testimony yesterday (which was supposed to be positive for him) and I did not like him. I have known abusers and he has that "this is somebody else's fault not my fault -- it's your fault for making me angry!" demeanor.

He said he tried to leave a few times, but she threatened to kill herself if he did. He described one time he left to stay in his apartment somewhere in West Hollywood, and she showed up in the middle of the night outside in her nightgown, screaming for him. This is why he describe finding his mom after her suicide attempt: it traumatised him and hearing his wife threaten suicide kept him around.

The poo incident came out two years ago in coverage of the London trial. She’s a very disturbed young woman. He’s a very damaged man. Terrible combo, both mad in their own ways.

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Anonymous wrote:I just don't find him credible when he testifies to what he was doing when he was drunk and high out of his mind. He says he didn't hit her but he punched the wall near her head (that's abuse btw! How is that not abuse?!) on the plane. Later on he was absolutely passed out. How are we to believe he remembers what he did or didn't do when he was high? Of course he wants to believe he wouldn't do something like that, but here's a guy writing insults in blood and paint all over the wall. (Isn't that abuse, too? Accusing your wife of sleeping with another actor and painting it all over the house wtf?)

I didn't see the later stuff. Was there some sort of video?

The video consisted of him slamming cabinets around, clearly angry and she’s asking him what happened and what’s wrong and he’s acting really angry at her saying “oh, NOTHING HAPPENED TO YOU TODAY” in a menacing voice. Meanwhile he’s just slamming shit around the kitchen, notices she’s recording and then advances saying “Are you recording this?” And then there’s some scuffle for the camera.

It was not good. It made me want to hide under a table.

Made even worse when Depp on the stand said “If she was so scared why didn’t she leave?” There’s a winning argument.

Wow. That behavior is scary and that comment is almost worse.

Kinda logical question though...

You clearly don't know anything about the dynamics of domestic violence. Often when you try to leave is when you get hurt. And I ABSOLUTELY sympathize with her in trying to record the violence. When your partner is crazy but only to you, it's hard to get other people to believe you. Other people think your partner is great! They wouldn't believe it unless you showed them that your partner would actually be acting like a crazy jerk. That's why the tape itself is more important. People wouldn't believe Depp would act crazy like this without seeing it themselves.

He should have recorded her craziness.

He did. That is why people are saying she is abusive as well. We’ve heard her.

What exactly? We heard some recordings from their therapist. But during their marriage he simply wasn't on a mission to destroy her by collecting evidence.

Like she was?

Haha, you funny.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ive-seen-how-institutions-protect-men-accused-of-abuse-heres-what-we-can-do/2018/12/18/71fd876a-02ed-11e9-b5df-5d3874f1ac36_story.html

Here’s her op-ed, for those who would like a refresher.

Wow, I hadn’t read that before. It totally fits that he blames her for the career problems he is having because of this one article rather than his own problematic behavior. It is always someone else’s fault and not the consequences of your own actions. Classic.

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Anonymous wrote:Before this trial, I though Depp was guilty. After watching and seeing his abuse from his mother and his addictions and his mannerisms, I believe he is innocent in that he did not lay a hand on her.

Was he crude, a drunk, obnoxious, druggie, selfish? Yes. Doesn’t mean he hit her. No proof.

I believe he is trying to clear his name for this and I believe him when I 100 percent believed Amber a week ago. She is the nutty one who is looking for fame and the only one who has been accused of physical abuse also while she is on tape admitting she hit him.

Amber just had a court case with Elon Musk for their embryos. Elon wanted them destroyed. Their baby just turned one via surrogate. She is looking for money and fame and is the one who physically abuses.

🤯

To be fair, I kind of respect this. If I were single, wanted a baby, and had the chance to have a child fathered by Elon Musk, I would do it. Not because of his $$, but because of his intellect. If you are shopping for donor sperm, you can’t get much better than Elon Musk.

I hope the baby has his brilliance and none of her craziness.

Really? He seems like he has some mental health issues so your kid will get those genes as well.

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I can’t believe that 12 regular people have to have their lives upended for 5 weeks for this nonsense. Just let them burn each other down.

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Anonymous wrote:They have a 22 year age gap.

Did she grow up fatherless?

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Anonymous wrote:They have a 22 year age gap.

Did she grow up fatherless?

No. Depp seems to be (or have been) close with her mother, father, and sister based on the texts messages read in court & other testimony.