Johnny Depp trial in Fairfax County

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Anonymous wrote:So it's totally normal to be in a relationship where your partner walks around slamming cabinets and breaking glass (I'm pretty sure he tossed something glass in there and it broke) violently and yelling condescendingly at you as you ask him what happened, because a little while ago when you woe up he was in a good mood. That's totally normal.

Also for your partner to write degrading messages to you in blood all over the house you're staying in together. That also sounds totally normal.

I can understand not liking her. There is a more loving and loyal path to take here as the spouse I guess. But I also don't think you necessarily owe loyalty and love to a an addicted person who can't control their behavior around you and is petulant to you all the time. Like, when he apologized to her by text for something terrible he did and she didn't immediately forgive him, his immediate response was "well I see forgiveness and understanding are off the menu." or something like that. He is such a petulant child expecting everything to be easy for him even though his behavior is appalling.

It is abuse to write degrading comments about your partner on the walls. THE END. That's abusive.

Your perspective is very one-sided. You’re conveniently leaving out all the crazy things she did, like crap on his side of the bed. No one has excused his behavior. They’re both nuts. Seems like you have some baggage as it relates to Amber’s position.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is Pat Cippillone’s firm still representing Depp?

NO. They represent her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Before this trial, I though Depp was guilty. After watching and seeing his abuse from his mother and his addictions and his mannerisms, I believe he is innocent in that he did not lay a hand on her.

Was he crude, a drunk, obnoxious, druggie, selfish? Yes. Doesn’t mean he hit her. No proof.

I believe he is trying to clear his name for this and I believe him when I 100 percent believed Amber a week ago. She is the nutty one who is looking for fame and the only one who has been accused of physical abuse also while she is on tape admitting she hit him.

Amber just had a court case with Elon Musk for their embryos. Elon wanted them destroyed. Their baby just turned one via surrogate. She is looking for money and fame and is the one who physically abuses.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So it's totally normal to be in a relationship where your partner walks around slamming cabinets and breaking glass (I'm pretty sure he tossed something glass in there and it broke) violently and yelling condescendingly at you as you ask him what happened, because a little while ago when you woe up he was in a good mood. That's totally normal.

Also for your partner to write degrading messages to you in blood all over the house you're staying in together. That also sounds totally normal.

I can understand not liking her. There is a more loving and loyal path to take here as the spouse I guess. But I also don't think you necessarily owe loyalty and love to a an addicted person who can't control their behavior around you and is petulant to you all the time. Like, when he apologized to her by text for something terrible he did and she didn't immediately forgive him, his immediate response was "well I see forgiveness and understanding are off the menu." or something like that. He is such a petulant child expecting everything to be easy for him even though his behavior is appalling.

It is abuse to write degrading comments about your partner on the walls. THE END. That's abusive.

The things you name here are at least as normal as…purposely defecating on your spouse’s side of the bed. She even took care to place the poo so that he would lay on it when he put up the sheet and got in bed. To me this was detail was as shocking as anything I heard Depp has done. She’s grotesquely immature and a little crazy. He’s an alcoholic opiate addict, clearly damaged from his own abusive childhood. I don’t think it is possible to say one is worse or more abusive than the other.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Before this trial, I though Depp was guilty. After watching and seeing his abuse from his mother and his addictions and his mannerisms, I believe he is innocent in that he did not lay a hand on her.

Was he crude, a drunk, obnoxious, druggie, selfish? Yes. Doesn’t mean he hit her. No proof.

I believe he is trying to clear his name for this and I believe him when I 100 percent believed Amber a week ago. She is the nutty one who is looking for fame and the only one who has been accused of physical abuse also while she is on tape admitting she hit him.

Amber just had a court case with Elon Musk for their embryos. Elon wanted them destroyed. Their baby just turned one via surrogate. She is looking for money and fame and is the one who physically abuses.

🤯

To be fair, I kind of respect this. If I were single, wanted a baby, and had the chance to have a child fathered by Elon Musk, I would do it. Not because of his $$, but because of his intellect. If you are shopping for donor sperm, you can’t get much better than Elon Musk.

I hope the baby has his brilliance and none of her craziness.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"She was antagonizing him!" as he went around smashing cabinets and breaking glass and pouring himself a giant glass of breakfast wine. Sure.

K, crazy…no one is saying his behavior was okay. He’s clearly a very troubled person. But, she walked in on him behaving like this, turned on her camera…and started asking leading questions to piss him off more. Any emotionally healthy adult would have got the hell out of there.

+1 but not one looking for $$$$$

[Anonymous]

I'm not following the trial. They're clearly both toxic train wrecks.

It blows my mind that people think Heard is or was beautiful. Must be the same folks who think Kate Upton is a beauty.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So it's totally normal to be in a relationship where your partner walks around slamming cabinets and breaking glass (I'm pretty sure he tossed something glass in there and it broke) violently and yelling condescendingly at you as you ask him what happened, because a little while ago when you woe up he was in a good mood. That's totally normal.

Also for your partner to write degrading messages to you in blood all over the house you're staying in together. That also sounds totally normal.

I can understand not liking her. There is a more loving and loyal path to take here as the spouse I guess. But I also don't think you necessarily owe loyalty and love to a an addicted person who can't control their behavior around you and is petulant to you all the time. Like, when he apologized to her by text for something terrible he did and she didn't immediately forgive him, his immediate response was "well I see forgiveness and understanding are off the menu." or something like that. He is such a petulant child expecting everything to be easy for him even though his behavior is appalling.

It is abuse to write degrading comments about your partner on the walls. THE END. That's abusive.

The things you name here are at least as normal as…purposely defecating on your spouse’s side of the bed. She even took care to place the poo so that he would lay on it when he put up the sheet and got in bed. To me this was detail was as shocking as anything I heard Depp has done. She’s grotesquely immature and a little crazy. He’s an alcoholic opiate addict, clearly damaged from his own abusive childhood. I don’t think it is possible to say one is worse or more abusive than the other.

+1 If she doesn't have an addiction problem, then she's one mentally ill woman.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you don't like it when someone is recording you when you are being a jerk, maybe look inwards and try not to be a jerk so much that it's camera worthy.

She's a jerk, for sure.

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Anonymous wrote:I just don't find him credible when he testifies to what he was doing when he was drunk and high out of his mind. He says he didn't hit her but he punched the wall near her head (that's abuse btw! How is that not abuse?!) on the plane. Later on he was absolutely passed out. How are we to believe he remembers what he did or didn't do when he was high? Of course he wants to believe he wouldn't do something like that, but here's a guy writing insults in blood and paint all over the wall. (Isn't that abuse, too? Accusing your wife of sleeping with another actor and painting it all over the house wtf?)

I didn't see the later stuff. Was there some sort of video?

The video consisted of him slamming cabinets around, clearly angry and she’s asking him what happened and what’s wrong and he’s acting really angry at her saying “oh, NOTHING HAPPENED TO YOU TODAY” in a menacing voice. Meanwhile he’s just slamming shit around the kitchen, notices she’s recording and then advances saying “Are you recording this?” And then there’s some scuffle for the camera.

It was not good. It made me want to hide under a table.

Made even worse when Depp on the stand said “If she was so scared why didn’t she leave?” There’s a winning argument.

Wow. That behavior is scary and that comment is almost worse.

Kinda logical question though...

You clearly don't know anything about the dynamics of domestic violence. Often when you try to leave is when you get hurt. And I ABSOLUTELY sympathize with her in trying to record the violence. When your partner is crazy but only to you, it's hard to get other people to believe you. Other people think your partner is great! They wouldn't believe it unless you showed them that your partner would actually be acting like a crazy jerk. That's why the tape itself is more important. People wouldn't believe Depp would act crazy like this without seeing it themselves.

He should have recorded her craziness.

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Anonymous wrote:Before this trial, I though Depp was guilty. After watching and seeing his abuse from his mother and his addictions and his mannerisms, I believe he is innocent in that he did not lay a hand on her.

Was he crude, a drunk, obnoxious, druggie, selfish? Yes. Doesn’t mean he hit her. No proof.

I believe he is trying to clear his name for this and I believe him when I 100 percent believed Amber a week ago. She is the nutty one who is looking for fame and the only one who has been accused of physical abuse also while she is on tape admitting she hit him.

Amber just had a court case with Elon Musk for their embryos. Elon wanted them destroyed. Their baby just turned one via surrogate. She is looking for money and fame and is the one who physically abuses.

🤯

To be fair, I kind of respect this. If I were single, wanted a baby, and had the chance to have a child fathered by Elon Musk, I would do it. Not because of his $$, but because of his intellect. If you are shopping for donor sperm, you can’t get much better than Elon Musk.

I hope the baby has his brilliance and none of her craziness.

I just hadn’t heard the story before. So he ended up allowing her to keep and use the embryos?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So it's totally normal to be in a relationship where your partner walks around slamming cabinets and breaking glass (I'm pretty sure he tossed something glass in there and it broke) violently and yelling condescendingly at you as you ask him what happened, because a little while ago when you woe up he was in a good mood. That's totally normal.

Also for your partner to write degrading messages to you in blood all over the house you're staying in together. That also sounds totally normal.

I can understand not liking her. There is a more loving and loyal path to take here as the spouse I guess. But I also don't think you necessarily owe loyalty and love to a an addicted person who can't control their behavior around you and is petulant to you all the time. Like, when he apologized to her by text for something terrible he did and she didn't immediately forgive him, his immediate response was "well I see forgiveness and understanding are off the menu." or something like that. He is such a petulant child expecting everything to be easy for him even though his behavior is appalling.

It is abuse to write degrading comments about your partner on the walls. THE END. That's abusive.

The things you name here are at least as normal as…purposely defecating on your spouse’s side of the bed. She even took care to place the poo so that he would lay on it when he put up the sheet and got in bed. To me this was detail was as shocking as anything I heard Depp has done. She’s grotesquely immature and a little crazy. He’s an alcoholic opiate addict, clearly damaged from his own abusive childhood. I don’t think it is possible to say one is worse or more abusive than the other.

I didn't actually see that part. But if she did that, yeah that's totally gross. And probably abusive, too, if that was her dynamic with him and not some weird thing wtf.

BUT I still think it's abusive to write degrading comments about your partner in blood etc. all over the walls. Everybody here seems to be saying you have to hit your partner for it to be abuse, but that's not the standard. And he seems awful. Maybe she should have left. Why didn't HE leave, btw, if she was so awful?

At the time, he credited her with getting him through his detox, and told her parents he owed it all to her and she was an angel. But now that he hates her he complains that actually she didn't give him his drugs fast enough. (He conveniently leaves out the part that she was told not to give him the drugs too early, and that she did actually summon doctors to the place to help him so they could make the call about giving him drugs early -- no, she was a demon!)

I haven't watched the whole thing so maybe I've gotten a skewed view, but I did hear a lot of his testimony yesterday (which was supposed to be positive for him) and I did not like him. I have known abusers and he has that "this is somebody else's fault not my fault -- it's your fault for making me angry!" demeanor.

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Anonymous wrote:I just don't find him credible when he testifies to what he was doing when he was drunk and high out of his mind. He says he didn't hit her but he punched the wall near her head (that's abuse btw! How is that not abuse?!) on the plane. Later on he was absolutely passed out. How are we to believe he remembers what he did or didn't do when he was high? Of course he wants to believe he wouldn't do something like that, but here's a guy writing insults in blood and paint all over the wall. (Isn't that abuse, too? Accusing your wife of sleeping with another actor and painting it all over the house wtf?)

I didn't see the later stuff. Was there some sort of video?

The video consisted of him slamming cabinets around, clearly angry and she’s asking him what happened and what’s wrong and he’s acting really angry at her saying “oh, NOTHING HAPPENED TO YOU TODAY” in a menacing voice. Meanwhile he’s just slamming shit around the kitchen, notices she’s recording and then advances saying “Are you recording this?” And then there’s some scuffle for the camera.

It was not good. It made me want to hide under a table.

Made even worse when Depp on the stand said “If she was so scared why didn’t she leave?” There’s a winning argument.

Wow. That behavior is scary and that comment is almost worse.

Kinda logical question though...

You clearly don't know anything about the dynamics of domestic violence. Often when you try to leave is when you get hurt. And I ABSOLUTELY sympathize with her in trying to record the violence. When your partner is crazy but only to you, it's hard to get other people to believe you. Other people think your partner is great! They wouldn't believe it unless you showed them that your partner would actually be acting like a crazy jerk. That's why the tape itself is more important. People wouldn't believe Depp would act crazy like this without seeing it themselves.

He should have recorded her craziness.

He did. That is why people are saying she is abusive as well. We’ve heard her.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So it's totally normal to be in a relationship where your partner walks around slamming cabinets and breaking glass (I'm pretty sure he tossed something glass in there and it broke) violently and yelling condescendingly at you as you ask him what happened, because a little while ago when you woe up he was in a good mood. That's totally normal.

Also for your partner to write degrading messages to you in blood all over the house you're staying in together. That also sounds totally normal.

I can understand not liking her. There is a more loving and loyal path to take here as the spouse I guess. But I also don't think you necessarily owe loyalty and love to a an addicted person who can't control their behavior around you and is petulant to you all the time. Like, when he apologized to her by text for something terrible he did and she didn't immediately forgive him, his immediate response was "well I see forgiveness and understanding are off the menu." or something like that. He is such a petulant child expecting everything to be easy for him even though his behavior is appalling.

It is abuse to write degrading comments about your partner on the walls. THE END. That's abusive.

The things you name here are at least as normal as…purposely defecating on your spouse’s side of the bed. She even took care to place the poo so that he would lay on it when he put up the sheet and got in bed. To me this was detail was as shocking as anything I heard Depp has done. She’s grotesquely immature and a little crazy. He’s an alcoholic opiate addict, clearly damaged from his own abusive childhood. I don’t think it is possible to say one is worse or more abusive than the other.

I didn't actually see that part. But if she did that, yeah that's totally gross. And probably abusive, too, if that was her dynamic with him and not some weird thing wtf.

BUT I still think it's abusive to write degrading comments about your partner in blood etc. all over the walls. Everybody here seems to be saying you have to hit your partner for it to be abuse, but that's not the standard. And he seems awful. Maybe she should have left. Why didn't HE leave, btw, if she was so awful?

At the time, he credited her with getting him through his detox, and told her parents he owed it all to her and she was an angel. But now that he hates her he complains that actually she didn't give him his drugs fast enough. (He conveniently leaves out the part that she was told not to give him the drugs too early, and that she did actually summon doctors to the place to help him so they could make the call about giving him drugs early -- no, she was a demon!)

I haven't watched the whole thing so maybe I've gotten a skewed view, but I did hear a lot of his testimony yesterday (which was supposed to be positive for him) and I did not like him. I have known abusers and he has that "this is somebody else's fault not my fault -- it's your fault for making me angry!" demeanor.

He went to Australia three weeks after they got married. When she tried to pick fights, he’d leave and go go another property. He was also asked this very question today and said he didn’t leave because he didn’t want go break her heart and because when his father left his mother, she became suicidal…and AH threatened suicide if he left. So there’s that.

[Anonymous]

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To be fair, I kind of respect this. If I were single, wanted a baby, and had the chance to have a child fathered by Elon Musk, I would do it. Not because of his $$, but because of his intellect. If you are shopping for donor sperm, you can’t get much better than Elon Musk.

I hope the baby has his brilliance and none of her craziness.

what intellect??? elon musk??? wow, imo he has an average iq at best, despite all the fake news about his ‘estimated’ iq
and his eq is probably as high as trump’s, he’s just lucky with money