If your child was TO or below 1400 on the SAT, how are they doing in college?

[Anonymous]

Mine is graduating a year early from college thanks to her high school APs. She had a 1380 SAT and went TO.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The unwashed masses of Ohio State with over 40,000 students and their freshman class test submitting rate is 20% for SAT and 60% for ACT. Yuck. Who knew absolute dunces were walking amongst us. /s

And any large state school that everyone touts. Even the Southern ones that have the least educated populations. They all must be dummies because of TO.

Sounds silly, right?

Not dummies necessarily, but almost certainly less academically qualified than students submitting test scores.

Do you work at a college?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The unwashed masses of Ohio State with over 40,000 students and their freshman class test submitting rate is 20% for SAT and 60% for ACT. Yuck. Who knew absolute dunces were walking amongst us. /s

And any large state school that everyone touts. Even the Southern ones that have the least educated populations. They all must be dummies because of TO.

Sounds silly, right?

Not dummies necessarily, but almost certainly less academically qualified than students submitting test scores.

Do you work at a college?

Do you know how test scores work?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are they doing well?

I'm going to blow your mind.....

I got a 1240 and I make in the 1% income and have 1% with no parental help. I went to run of the mill state school too, where I graduated summa cum laude, had grad school paid 100% in a science field and worked my way up the corporate ladder.

Oh, I did get a 34 on the ACT though and was in the top 10% of my very large suburban highschool. And because of my ACT score I got 100% scholarship at my state university.

SAT is just a test. It doesn't predict anything.

Let me start out by saying, that yes, SAT/ACT is just one data point, and if you were not having a good day when you took the test, it's not a reflection of your abilities.

Having stated that, a lot of top colleges are going back to test required because the tests are an indication of how well you do in college.

And having stated that, how well you do or don't do in college is not a predictor of how well you will do in life.

I had a low SAT score (1000), gpa 3.4ish in college. But, I come from a lower immigrant family, parents could never help with tutors or enrichment, and I worked my way through a low C rated state u. I didn't have time to study for some of my finals. That said, I ended up making six figures by 30, and this was over 20 years ago. I have always been a high performer in my field.

I realize times have changed, but how well you do academically is not a predictor of how well you do in the work place. Some people are just great at academics, and some are only really good at what they do in their jobs, and some are good at both.

[Anonymous]

TO (1370) 3rd year pre-med at top 10. So far a few Bs, but nothing below a B. Mostly A-, B+. Very hard classes. DC knows it’s not ideal for med school admissions, but not terrible overall. Will have options. Has friends who scored 1500+ in admission who now have similar or even lower gpa. It all comes down to work ethic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are they doing well?

I'm going to blow your mind.....

I got a 1240 and I make in the 1% income and have 1% with no parental help. I went to run of the mill state school too, where I graduated summa cum laude, had grad school paid 100% in a science field and worked my way up the corporate ladder.

Oh, I did get a 34 on the ACT though and was in the top 10% of my very large suburban highschool. And because of my ACT score I got 100% scholarship at my state university.

SAT is just a test. It doesn't predict anything.

You must be White. This kind of unfounded arrogance and over-confidence comes from knowing that this country will give you all the chances if your color is correct!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are they doing well?

I'm going to blow your mind.....

I got a 1240 and I make in the 1% income and have 1% with no parental help. I went to run of the mill state school too, where I graduated summa cum laude, had grad school paid 100% in a science field and worked my way up the corporate ladder.

Oh, I did get a 34 on the ACT though and was in the top 10% of my very large suburban highschool. And because of my ACT score I got 100% scholarship at my state university.

SAT is just a test. It doesn't predict anything.

You must be White. This kind of unfounded arrogance and over-confidence comes from knowing that this country will give you all the chances if your color is correct!

Lol.

[Anonymous]

He is doing amazing at college and studying for the LSAT.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When half of the class are TO, you won't be any different from half of the class. You sort of do fine.

The right comparison is the put a TO kid in a test required school. Then ask the question how they are doing there. It would be tough.

There’s no harder curriculum between a test required and test optional school. You really think Florida Institute of Technology and University of Tennessee Southern have more difficult curriculums than Princeton and Carnegie Mellon? You’re delusional.

You cannot be serious. The curriculum may be same, but the depth won’t be. Do you think all high schools are teaching AP classes at the same level of difficulty despite a standardized test? We all know that’s not the case, plenty of A’s that can’t pass the test.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are they doing well?

I'm going to blow your mind.....

I got a 1240 and I make in the 1% income and have 1% with no parental help. I went to run of the mill state school too, where I graduated summa cum laude, had grad school paid 100% in a science field and worked my way up the corporate ladder.

Oh, I did get a 34 on the ACT though and was in the top 10% of my very large suburban highschool. And because of my ACT score I got 100% scholarship at my state university.

SAT is just a test. It doesn't predict anything.

You must be White. This kind of unfounded arrogance and over-confidence comes from knowing that this country will give you all the chances if your color is correct!

Lol. His entitlement is oozing out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The unwashed masses of Ohio State with over 40,000 students and their freshman class test submitting rate is 20% for SAT and 60% for ACT. Yuck. Who knew absolute dunces were walking amongst us. /s

And any large state school that everyone touts. Even the Southern ones that have the least educated populations. They all must be dummies because of TO.

Sounds silly, right?

Not dummies necessarily, but almost certainly less academically qualified than students submitting test scores.

Submitting scores often just indicates your parents have the funds to spend on multiple tests and professional test prep.

[Anonymous]

It depends, usually low sat equates to low IQ degrees like communications, etc so they might be doing fine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The unwashed masses of Ohio State with over 40,000 students and their freshman class test submitting rate is 20% for SAT and 60% for ACT. Yuck. Who knew absolute dunces were walking amongst us. /s

And any large state school that everyone touts. Even the Southern ones that have the least educated populations. They all must be dummies because of TO.

Sounds silly, right?

Not dummies necessarily, but almost certainly less academically qualified than students submitting test scores.

Submitting scores often just indicates your parents have the funds to spend on multiple tests and professional test prep.

Why do kids with higher test scores perform much better in college than kids who don't submit test scores then? Why does study after study find this?

[Anonymous]

They usually take easy majors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The unwashed masses of Ohio State with over 40,000 students and their freshman class test submitting rate is 20% for SAT and 60% for ACT. Yuck. Who knew absolute dunces were walking amongst us. /s

And any large state school that everyone touts. Even the Southern ones that have the least educated populations. They all must be dummies because of TO.

Sounds silly, right?

Not dummies necessarily, but almost certainly less academically qualified than students submitting test scores.

Submitting scores often just indicates your parents have the funds to spend on multiple tests and professional test prep.

Why do kids with higher test scores perform much better in college than kids who don't submit test scores then? Why does study after study find this?

Out of curiosity, can you share the links to these studies?