If your child was TO or below 1400 on the SAT, how are they doing in college?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The unwashed masses of Ohio State with over 40,000 students and their freshman class test submitting rate is 20% for SAT and 60% for ACT. Yuck. Who knew absolute dunces were walking amongst us. /s

And any large state school that everyone touts. Even the Southern ones that have the least educated populations. They all must be dummies because of TO.

Sounds silly, right?

Not dummies necessarily, but almost certainly less academically qualified than students submitting test scores.

Submitting scores often just indicates your parents have the funds to spend on multiple tests and professional test prep.

[Anonymous]

It depends, usually low sat equates to low IQ degrees like communications, etc so they might be doing fine.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The unwashed masses of Ohio State with over 40,000 students and their freshman class test submitting rate is 20% for SAT and 60% for ACT. Yuck. Who knew absolute dunces were walking amongst us. /s

And any large state school that everyone touts. Even the Southern ones that have the least educated populations. They all must be dummies because of TO.

Sounds silly, right?

Not dummies necessarily, but almost certainly less academically qualified than students submitting test scores.

Submitting scores often just indicates your parents have the funds to spend on multiple tests and professional test prep.

Why do kids with higher test scores perform much better in college than kids who don't submit test scores then? Why does study after study find this?

[Anonymous]

They usually take easy majors.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The unwashed masses of Ohio State with over 40,000 students and their freshman class test submitting rate is 20% for SAT and 60% for ACT. Yuck. Who knew absolute dunces were walking amongst us. /s

And any large state school that everyone touts. Even the Southern ones that have the least educated populations. They all must be dummies because of TO.

Sounds silly, right?

Not dummies necessarily, but almost certainly less academically qualified than students submitting test scores.

Submitting scores often just indicates your parents have the funds to spend on multiple tests and professional test prep.

Why do kids with higher test scores perform much better in college than kids who don't submit test scores then? Why does study after study find this?

Out of curiosity, can you share the links to these studies?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The unwashed masses of Ohio State with over 40,000 students and their freshman class test submitting rate is 20% for SAT and 60% for ACT. Yuck. Who knew absolute dunces were walking amongst us. /s

And any large state school that everyone touts. Even the Southern ones that have the least educated populations. They all must be dummies because of TO.

Sounds silly, right?

Not dummies necessarily, but almost certainly less academically qualified than students submitting test scores.

Submitting scores often just indicates your parents have the funds to spend on multiple tests and professional test prep.

Why do kids with higher test scores perform much better in college than kids who don't submit test scores then? Why does study after study find this?

Out of curiosity, can you share the links to these studies?

Here's one.

https://opportunityinsights.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/SAT_ACT_on_Grades.pdf

Suddenly studies are bogus and there is no objective reality though, right?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The unwashed masses of Ohio State with over 40,000 students and their freshman class test submitting rate is 20% for SAT and 60% for ACT. Yuck. Who knew absolute dunces were walking amongst us. /s

And any large state school that everyone touts. Even the Southern ones that have the least educated populations. They all must be dummies because of TO.

Sounds silly, right?

Not dummies necessarily, but almost certainly less academically qualified than students submitting test scores.

Submitting scores often just indicates your parents have the funds to spend on multiple tests and professional test prep.

Nope, tons of free resources. It’s work ethic and drive that’s the problem. That being said, oldest got perfect score no prep. Youngest got a top score with next to no prep and didn’t have the work ethic to put time into math to do even better. Oldest had rigor and perfect gps, youngest has less rigor and average gpa.

It’s not money, it’s innate ability and drive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:SATs are the only way to really assess a student's ability. Sorry you can't cheat on the SAT like you could in classes and are upset. 🤷‍♀️

Only way? Stop being delulu. You can't cheat on the SAT but you can certainly retake it over and over until you get the score you want. Does that sound like a great assessment of a student's ability? At my kid's HS, the most you can retake a test (if they even allow it) is once.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:SATs are the only way to really assess a student's ability. Sorry you can't cheat on the SAT like you could in classes and are upset. 🤷‍♀️

Only way? Stop being delulu. You can't cheat on the SAT but you can certainly retake it over and over until you get the score you want. Does that sound like a great assessment of a student's ability? At my kid's HS, the most you can retake a test (if they even allow it) is once.

Clearly you can't take it over and over until you get the score you want or every college would have a 1600-1600 SAT range. Do you losers ever tire of being illogical?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:SATs are the only way to really assess a student's ability. Sorry you can't cheat on the SAT like you could in classes and are upset. 🤷‍♀️

Only way? Stop being delulu. You can't cheat on the SAT but you can certainly retake it over and over until you get the score you want. Does that sound like a great assessment of a student's ability? At my kid's HS, the most you can retake a test (if they even allow it) is once.

It’s flawed, but the closet thing we’ve got. Can’t trust grades and gpa.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SATs are the only way to really assess a student's ability. Sorry you can't cheat on the SAT like you could in classes and are upset. 🤷‍♀️

Only way? Stop being delulu. You can't cheat on the SAT but you can certainly retake it over and over until you get the score you want. Does that sound like a great assessment of a student's ability? At my kid's HS, the most you can retake a test (if they even allow it) is once.

It’s flawed, but the closet thing we’ve got. Can’t trust grades and gpa.

The Admissions Officers will make that call. Not you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SATs are the only way to really assess a student's ability. Sorry you can't cheat on the SAT like you could in classes and are upset. 🤷‍♀️

Only way? Stop being delulu. You can't cheat on the SAT but you can certainly retake it over and over until you get the score you want. Does that sound like a great assessment of a student's ability? At my kid's HS, the most you can retake a test (if they even allow it) is once.

Clearly you can't take it over and over until you get the score you want or every college would have a 1600-1600 SAT range. Do you losers ever tire of being illogical?

LOL—relax, Socrates. No one said everyone does get a 1600. I said you can retake the SAT multiple times, unlike most high school tests. That means wealth, time, and access to tutoring can play a huge role—so maybe chill with the “only true measure of ability” takes. Not everyone’s goal is a perfect score anyway—most students are just aiming for what gets them into their schools. And at the end of the day, if the school is test-optional, why would someone even bother jumping through those hoops unless it actually helps them?

[Anonymous]

Isn't this most kids?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SATs are the only way to really assess a student's ability. Sorry you can't cheat on the SAT like you could in classes and are upset. 🤷‍♀️

Only way? Stop being delulu. You can't cheat on the SAT but you can certainly retake it over and over until you get the score you want. Does that sound like a great assessment of a student's ability? At my kid's HS, the most you can retake a test (if they even allow it) is once.

It’s flawed, but the closet thing we’ve got. Can’t trust grades and gpa.

The Admissions Officers will make that call. Not you.

Right, and same back to you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are they doing well?

I'm going to blow your mind.....

I got a 1240 and I make in the 1% income and have 1% with no parental help. I went to run of the mill state school too, where I graduated summa cum laude, had grad school paid 100% in a science field and worked my way up the corporate ladder.

Oh, I did get a 34 on the ACT though and was in the top 10% of my very large suburban highschool. And because of my ACT score I got 100% scholarship at my state university.

SAT is just a test. It doesn't predict anything.

For a scientist, you have a fairly weakness grasp on what "predict" means.

Sounds like you only took SAT once, and took ACT also for some reason??? and earned a score equivalent to well above OP's 1400.

+1
Lots of lying on this thread.

I think there is far more jealousy than lying going on.