new kavanaugh sexual assault allegations

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Anonymous wrote:"A serious investigation into the allegations against Kavanaugh would require speaking with a broad array of possible witnesses to the Kavanaugh-Ramirez incident. The FBI has not conducted that investigation."

- this from Kavanaugh's roommate from college. He has never been interviewed.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/opinion-kavanaugh-fbi-investigation_n_5bb58157e4b0876eda9afeff

No investigation needed. We are in the Age of Trump. Truth, ethics, and laws, ethics are passé.

Read the article and tell me about the truth and ethics of this political science professor.

Why? They don't matter anymore. Isn't that what the amoral scum wanted? Isn't that why you put Trump in the White House?

So you did not read the article?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not sure why goopers are bringing up Ford’s friend like she was a witness. Ford named Mark Judge, right wing activist, Daily Caller writer and Bretty’s best friend in high school, as the witness to her assault.

The FBI never talked to Judge.

If she had been lying, why would she name him, of all people? [/quote
Uh because she wanted to preserve Roe v Wade?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure why goopers are bringing up Ford’s friend like she was a witness. Ford named Mark Judge, right wing activist, Daily Caller writer and Bretty’s best friend in high school, as the witness to her assault.

The FBI never talked to Judge.

If she had been lying, why would she name him, of all people? [/quote
Uh because she wanted to preserve Roe v Wade?

FBI talked to Judge. You, my friend are either ill-informed or are lying.
Given how the Democrats have acted the past couple days, I think it is the latter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So, this is interesting. The reporters' book isn't out yet, but here is some information excerpted from it as relates to Leland Keyser, the only girlfriend that was at the party where the alleged assault took place:

https://thefederalist.com/2019/09/15/new-book-christine-blasey-fords-friend-leland-keyser-doesnt-believe/

The authors also acknowledge what had previously been reported in “Justice on Trial,” about the efforts of mutual friends to get her to change her testimony to be more supportive of Blasey Ford. The reporters say that some of Blasey Ford’s friends “had grown frustrated with Keyser. Her comments about the alleged Kavanaugh incident had been too limited, some of them felt, and did not help their friend’s case. Surely, given what a close friend Keyser had been, she could say more to substantiate Ford’s testimony and general veracity, even if she could not corroborate Ford’s more specific memories.”

A group text was formed in which friends such as Cheryl Amitay and Lulu Gonella discussed how to get her to say something more helpful to the cause. An unnamed man on the text suggested that they defame her as an addict. Keyser has been in recovery for some time, as her friends know and as has previously been reported.

Amitay answered, “Leland is a major stumbling block.” While asserting she didn’t want her to make anything up out of whole cloth, she offered ideas for things that could sound supportive of Ford’s story, such as that she’d been in similar situations with Blasey Ford that summer.

“I was told behind the scenes that certain things could be spread about me if I didn’t comply,” Keyser told the reporters, a stunning admission of the pressure to which she was subjected to by Blasey Ford’s allies.

As previously reported in “Justice on Trial,” Keyser continues to think about the story in which she was supposed to have played a part. She has both “logistical and character-driven” problems with it. Focusing on one of the angles that many women had trouble believing, she says, “It would be impossible for me to be the only girl at a get-together with three guys, have her leave, and then not figure out how she’s going to get home.”

And then, just before the book ends, the reporters drop a bombshell:

We spoke multiple times to Keyser, who also said that she didn’t recall that get-together or any others like it. In fact, she challenged Ford’s accuracy. “I don’t have any confidence in the story.”

Yikes!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not sure why goopers are bringing up Ford’s friend like she was a witness. Ford named Mark Judge, right wing activist, Daily Caller writer and Bretty’s best friend in high school, as the witness to her assault.

The FBI never talked to Judge.

If she had been lying, why would she name him, of all people? [/quote
Uh because she wanted to preserve Roe v Wade?

FBI talked to Judge. You, my friend are either ill-informed or are lying.
Given how the Democrats have acted the past couple days, I think it is the latter.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not sure why goopers are bringing up Ford’s friend like she was a witness. Ford named Mark Judge, right wing activist, Daily Caller writer and Bretty’s best friend in high school, as the witness to her assault.

The FBI never talked to Judge.

If she had been lying, why would she name him, of all people? [/quote
Uh because she wanted to preserve Roe v Wade?

FBI talked to Judge. You, my friend are either ill-informed or are lying.
Given how the Democrats have acted the past couple days, I think it is the latter.

+1,000

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Anonymous wrote:Damn.

The NYT has updated the piece tonight to say that the earlier version omitted something from the book. That "something" was that the female student who was the alleged victim declined to be interviewed and friends say she does not recall the incident.

In other words, she doesn’t want her life to be ruined by relentless harpies like you people. I can’t blame her.

Really. Show us an example of a ruined life? All the liars thus far have lived their lives just fine. Making up things and coming forward hasn’t hurt anybody except the accused.

That’s ok. The ruined lives along the way are all fine. Means justifies the end to the liberal mind. A mind that manages to lie itself in some weird loop. Liberalism is a mental disease devoid of logic and facts. This board shows that in spades.

Do you know how many times Christie Blasey Ford had to move because of death threats from crazed right wingers? The Republican smear machine is a terrible thing.

Ever the victim. Tell us. How many times has she had to move? You have any kind of reliable info on how many times she's had to move or how many "death threats" she's received. My guess is that these reports are somewhere between grossly exaggerated and flat out lies. She's too traumatized to fly. She needs to get a second front door added to put her mind at ease in case Brett and Marc Judge try to rape her again.

She's a partisan political liberal hack, who works/ed at an ultra left wing university who tried to derail a confirmation with a BS story when it became apparent that her party had failed to do so through conventional means. Depending on your political allegiance this may make her a hero but she's no victim.

Amen. Her attorney even admitted that her allegations were politically motivated.

Yep. It was all about Roe vs. Wade.

And, Mitch McConnell delivered a statement about this whole ridiculous story and media frenzy today. He reminded me of something that had slipped my mind - how some Democrats wrote a brief to SCOTUS essentially saying, "We don't like how you are ruling. Do what we like, or we will make changes to the Supreme Court."
https://www.whitehouse.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/New%20York%20Rifle%20&%20Pistol%20Association%20v.%20New%20York%20(Whitehouse%20amicus%20FINAL).pdf

Republicans respondes with a letter, signed by ALL 53 Senators, pledging not to allow the Democrats to pack the court.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/08/29/mitch-mcconnell-senate-gop-write-letter-supreme-court/2157025001/

Democrats are working on a losing strategy here.

you say it's all about roe as if that isn't a legitimate concern

the penis in face stuff is bad. the lack of an investigation is bad. but the point is that collins promised her constituents she'd protect roe - and didn't. you think there shouldn't be consequences for that?

Point of correction: the friends pushed Kavanaugh’s penis into Jane Doe’s hand, not her face.
Someone’s ex-boyfriend told my old bunk mate from summer camp and she mentioned it to a well placed Washington lobbyist who had his PA call the FBI about it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No surprise. The offensive tweet that the NYTimes was forced to delete on Sunday was written by one of the authors of the book coming out tomorrow - Robin Pogrebin.

According to a Times insider familiar with the matter, Pogrebin wrote the offensive tweet, which should have been vetted before it was posted.

“It was really neglectful,” the insider said of the paper’s overall handling. “There were serious errors made along the way.”

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/16/new-york-times-brett-kavanaugh-book-1498153

This is a pretty damning assessment of the NYTimes and their botched story.
Will anyone be held accountable? Doubtful.

The New York Times is TRASH. It is so sad that it’s come to this but they have no redeeming value at all.

Maybe they can merge with the National Enquirer.

[Anonymous]

How do you even push someone else’s penis into someone else’s hand? Was his penis like an elephant trunk or a retractable leash? Was her unwilling hand outstretched and open? Come on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No surprise. The offensive tweet that the NYTimes was forced to delete on Sunday was written by one of the authors of the book coming out tomorrow - Robin Pogrebin.

According to a Times insider familiar with the matter, Pogrebin wrote the offensive tweet, which should have been vetted before it was posted.

“It was really neglectful,” the insider said of the paper’s overall handling. “There were serious errors made along the way.”

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/16/new-york-times-brett-kavanaugh-book-1498153

This is a pretty damning assessment of the NYTimes and their botched story.
Will anyone be held accountable? Doubtful.

Such hypocrisy by that reporter. Fighting for women and against sexual assault, and she characterizes the alleged act as “harmless fun?”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Point of correction: the friends pushed Kavanaugh’s penis into Jane Doe’s hand, not her face.
Someone’s ex-boyfriend told my old bunk mate from summer camp and she mentioned it to a well placed Washington lobbyist who had his PA call the FBI about it.

Peak DCUM.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How do you even push someone else’s penis into someone else’s hand? Was his penis like an elephant trunk or a retractable leash? Was her unwilling hand outstretched and open? Come on.

I've been trying to figure this out. DH and I have had some laughs over it. But, you have come up with the absolute best visual. I'll never unsee an elephant trunk.

Absurd.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Damn.

The NYT has updated the piece tonight to say that the earlier version omitted something from the book. That "something" was that the female student who was the alleged victim declined to be interviewed and friends say she does not recall the incident.

In other words, she doesn’t want her life to be ruined by relentless harpies like you people. I can’t blame her.

Really. Show us an example of a ruined life? All the liars thus far have lived their lives just fine. Making up things and coming forward hasn’t hurt anybody except the accused.

That’s ok. The ruined lives along the way are all fine. Means justifies the end to the liberal mind. A mind that manages to lie itself in some weird loop. Liberalism is a mental disease devoid of logic and facts. This board shows that in spades.

Do you know how many times Christie Blasey Ford had to move because of death threats from crazed right wingers? The Republican smear machine is a terrible thing.

Ever the victim. Tell us. How many times has she had to move? You have any kind of reliable info on how many times she's had to move or how many "death threats" she's received. My guess is that these reports are somewhere between grossly exaggerated and flat out lies. She's too traumatized to fly. She needs to get a second front door added to put her mind at ease in case Brett and Marc Judge try to rape her again.

She's a partisan political liberal hack, who works/ed at an ultra left wing university who tried to derail a confirmation with a BS story when it became apparent that her party had failed to do so through conventional means. Depending on your political allegiance this may make her a hero but she's no victim.

Amen. Her attorney even admitted that her allegations were politically motivated.

Yep. It was all about Roe vs. Wade.

And, Mitch McConnell delivered a statement about this whole ridiculous story and media frenzy today. He reminded me of something that had slipped my mind - how some Democrats wrote a brief to SCOTUS essentially saying, "We don't like how you are ruling. Do what we like, or we will make changes to the Supreme Court."
https://www.whitehouse.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/New%20York%20Rifle%20&%20Pistol%20Association%20v.%20New%20York%20(Whitehouse%20amicus%20FINAL).pdf

Republicans respondes with a letter, signed by ALL 53 Senators, pledging not to allow the Democrats to pack the court.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/08/29/mitch-mcconnell-senate-gop-write-letter-supreme-court/2157025001/

Democrats are working on a losing strategy here.

Wait, are you seriously citing Moscow Mitch as if anyone can take anything he says seriously? Good lord.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How do you even push someone else’s penis into someone else’s hand? Was his penis like an elephant trunk or a retractable leash? Was her unwilling hand outstretched and open? Come on.

I've been trying to figure this out. DH and I have had some laughs over it. But, you have come up with the absolute best visual. I'll never unsee an elephant trunk.

Absurd.

This requires a deep FBI investigation.

We deserve no less.

And let's compare what we find with Bill Clinton's qualities.

Can't wait!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Point of correction: the friends pushed Kavanaugh’s penis into Jane Doe’s hand, not her face.
Someone’s ex-boyfriend told my old bunk mate from summer camp and she mentioned it to a well placed Washington lobbyist who had his PA call the FBI about it.

Peak DCUM.

Old bunk mate from summer camp?!! Why didn't you say so in the first place!