FCPS Skyview Boundary Scenario 1/2/3

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't realize any of the scenarios moves kids from Cabells Mill are to Liberty and then what? back to Chantilly for HS? That is weird.

That makes no sense. What is the rationale for that?

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Anonymous wrote:Someone just posted a petition on Next Door. Looks like the Cabell's Mill area is not excited about scenario 2. Shocking that people would mind being switch from Rocky Run to Liberty.

This is why the SB members shouldn't have rashly told Lees Corner they were exempt from being moved, because now every single other neighborhood knows this happened and is demanding the same special treatment.

Yes. Further proof that Dixit and McDaniel are morons. Even if you SECRETLY agreed with the rabid Lees Corner contingent, you make soothing noises but no promises until you see the next maps. Anyone with a 100 IQ knows that. Once you start making public promises to one area, you have no leg to stand on with all the other areas who don't want to be moved.

RIO did their bribery in secret!

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe RIO should backfill Westfield. According to my map, it’s closer to them than Oakton HS.

You either have a dumb map or a dumb brain

Nope. I literally took a street from RIO and mapped it to both schools. It’s actually still further miles wise to Oakton.

What street?

Oh you can’t read a map? You must be dumb. It’s not my job to spoon feed you.

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Anonymous wrote:The easiest thing politically for the SB to do is dump even more poor kids at Westfield, shrug, and walk away. Those poor families weren't donating to their campaigns anyway and the Chantilly and Oakton people are up in their face.

They are taking lots of "poor" kids out of Westfield. Should not be a problem.

They are also taking lots of "not poor" kids out of Westfield. If one of the scenarios has them adding back in all poor kids, that's a problem.

None of the scenarios have them adding back “all poor kids.” Your rhetoric is seriously overblown, especially since you are likely one of the “not poor” families at a school now likely to move to Westfield.

NP. You sound unfamiliar with the area so I'll explain it to you. Bull Run is 43% FARMs. They put the AAP center there to try to help their test scores, so the actual FARMs rate of the zoned neighborhoods is even higher . If you know the area, the few Bull Run areas already zoned to Westfield are SFH homes (small neighborhood off Lee Highway and the few houses down by SYA Sports Park). The rest of the school is lower income housing (old townhomes, high and low rise apartments etc), except for one smallish SFH neighborhood over by Centre Ridge and a handful of homes in Bull Run park. Most of Bull Run population goes on to Centreville HS. The areas zoned to Westfield now don't have a lot of students.

Has FCPS put out an analysis on how the changes would alter the FARMs rates at the schools? You know they have run the numbers internally.

Thanks for providing further evidence that not all the kids at Bull Run now at Centreville are poor.

Moving the rest of Bull Run to Westfield eliminates a split feeder (a goal in Policy 8130) and means we could cut back on spending almost $300 million on a massive expansion of Centreville.

It’s obviously the sensible thing to do, and Westfield’s boundaries after that move would be far more sensible and compact than they are today.

Hmm, I disagree with you---and you clearly don't know the area at all if you think any of your points are accurate-- but I understand that the Chantilly people are really concerned that since they are SO close to Westfield, they are very likely to be moved.
May the odds be ever in your favor.

Well, Centreville could still be expanded if they decide to eliminate the Fairfax attendance island (another goal of policy 8130), by moving Willow Springs and Eagle View into Liberty/Centreville and putting the rest of Greenbriar east back into Chantilly (Eliminating a split feeder) making everything more consistent.

This really only makes sense if FCPS plans to terminate its contract with the City of Fairfax and leave Fairfax City on its own. How many kids do you think Fairfax HS would have without its western area? It would be like Meridian HS in Falls Church City.

Thru had a simple proposal to bridge the Fairfax island to the main attendance area but it got dropped. All it would take is moving a small part of Woodson to Fairfax.

We really should not be spending anywhere close to $300M on a massive Centreville renovation and expansion. These SB members plead poverty but waste so much money.

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Anonymous wrote:Someone just posted a petition on Next Door. Looks like the Cabell's Mill area is not excited about scenario 2. Shocking that people would mind being switch from Rocky Run to Liberty.

Well, I guess you are getting a real-time lesson that families don’t want to move, even to a school that is perceived as better.

That's because it pulls that small area of kids out of pyramid for MS ONLY. They have them going back to Chantilly for HS. Plus Liberty is twice as far away as Rocky Run. It's a ridiculous proposal.

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't realize any of the scenarios moves kids from Cabells Mill are to Liberty and then what? back to Chantilly for HS? That is weird.

That makes no sense. What is the rationale for that?

I think they were trying to fill up Liberty, which is underused. But its underused because its way off in the middle of nowhere, and not centrally located. So in that scenario they moved kids from Cabells mill to liberty and then back to Chantilly. Why? Who knows, but it makes no sense.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe RIO should backfill Westfield. According to my map, it’s closer to them than Oakton HS.

You either have a dumb map or a dumb brain

Nope. I literally took a street from RIO and mapped it to both schools. It’s actually still further miles wise to Oakton.

What street?

Oh you can’t read a map? You must be dumb. It’s not my job to spoon feed you.

Most of Franklin Farm is closer to Westfield than Oakton. And, again, South Lakes and Skyview are both closer than Westfield. Chantilly is also closer, but there is no room there.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe RIO should backfill Westfield. According to my map, it’s closer to them than Oakton HS.

Would never happen because FCPS caters to the loudest screamers but amusing to imagine those smug RIO people totally losing their sh!t.

+1 give them the choice of Skyview or Westfield.

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Anonymous wrote:The easiest thing politically for the SB to do is dump even more poor kids at Westfield, shrug, and walk away. Those poor families weren't donating to their campaigns anyway and the Chantilly and Oakton people are up in their face.

They are taking lots of "poor" kids out of Westfield. Should not be a problem.

They are also taking lots of "not poor" kids out of Westfield. If one of the scenarios has them adding back in all poor kids, that's a problem.

None of the scenarios have them adding back “all poor kids.” Your rhetoric is seriously overblown, especially since you are likely one of the “not poor” families at a school now likely to move to Westfield.

NP. You sound unfamiliar with the area so I'll explain it to you. Bull Run is 43% FARMs. They put the AAP center there to try to help their test scores, so the actual FARMs rate of the zoned neighborhoods is even higher . If you know the area, the few Bull Run areas already zoned to Westfield are SFH homes (small neighborhood off Lee Highway and the few houses down by SYA Sports Park). The rest of the school is lower income housing (old townhomes, high and low rise apartments etc), except for one smallish SFH neighborhood over by Centre Ridge and a handful of homes in Bull Run park. Most of Bull Run population goes on to Centreville HS. The areas zoned to Westfield now don't have a lot of students.

Has FCPS put out an analysis on how the changes would alter the FARMs rates at the schools? You know they have run the numbers internally.

Thanks for providing further evidence that not all the kids at Bull Run now at Centreville are poor.

Moving the rest of Bull Run to Westfield eliminates a split feeder (a goal in Policy 8130) and means we could cut back on spending almost $300 million on a massive expansion of Centreville.

It’s obviously the sensible thing to do, and Westfield’s boundaries after that move would be far more sensible and compact than they are today.

Hmm, I disagree with you---and you clearly don't know the area at all if you think any of your points are accurate-- but I understand that the Chantilly people are really concerned that since they are SO close to Westfield, they are very likely to be moved.
May the odds be ever in your favor.

Well, Centreville could still be expanded if they decide to eliminate the Fairfax attendance island (another goal of policy 8130), by moving Willow Springs and Eagle View into Liberty/Centreville and putting the rest of Greenbriar east back into Chantilly (Eliminating a split feeder) making everything more consistent.

This really only makes sense if FCPS plans to terminate its contract with the City of Fairfax and leave Fairfax City on its own. How many kids do you think Fairfax HS would have without its western area? It would be like Meridian HS in Falls Church City.

Thru had a simple proposal to bridge the Fairfax island to the main attendance area but it got dropped. All it would take is moving a small part of Woodson to Fairfax.

We really should not be spending anywhere close to $300M on a massive Centreville renovation and expansion. These SB members plead poverty but waste so much money.

I think the families in Hampton Chase, etc would rather stay at Fairfax HS than switch to CVHS.

There isn't really even space at Centreville for a huge renovation, unless the county gives them some park land. The actual HS property is not that big.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe RIO should backfill Westfield. According to my map, it’s closer to them than Oakton HS.

You either have a dumb map or a dumb brain

Nope. I literally took a street from RIO and mapped it to both schools. It’s actually still further miles wise to Oakton.

What street?

Oh you can’t read a map? You must be dumb. It’s not my job to spoon feed you.

Most of Franklin Farm is closer to Westfield than Oakton. And, again, South Lakes and Skyview are both closer than Westfield. Chantilly is also closer, but there is no room there.

Yep, when Westfield, Chantilly or South Lakes hosts Oakton for home games, its closer for those families to go to their "away" game then drive back to Oakton!

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Anonymous wrote:It doesn't seem like FCPS is prioritizing eliminating split feeders, based on the maps. So that's not a real compelling argument, Lees Corner Mama.

They are eliminating split feeders at both Wolftrap and Spring Hill ES.

It’s so obvious some of you have no ability to read a map. If you did you’d know moving Lees Corner when it’s so close to Chantilly would be the epitome of stupid. It appears Reid and several School Board have quickly come to the same conclusion.

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Anonymous wrote:It doesn't seem like FCPS is prioritizing eliminating split feeders, based on the maps. So that's not a real compelling argument, Lees Corner Mama.

They are eliminating split feeders at both Wolftrap and Spring Hill ES.

It’s so obvious some of you have no ability to read a map. If you did you’d know moving Lees Corner when it’s so close to Chantilly would be the epitome of stupid. It appears Reid and several School Board have quickly come to the same conclusion.

It may be stupid, but Seema and Kyle immediately and publicly awarding Lees Corner for their tantrum was even stupider because now the Tantrum Precedent has been set.

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Anonymous wrote:The easiest thing politically for the SB to do is dump even more poor kids at Westfield, shrug, and walk away. Those poor families weren't donating to their campaigns anyway and the Chantilly and Oakton people are up in their face.

They are taking lots of "poor" kids out of Westfield. Should not be a problem.

They are also taking lots of "not poor" kids out of Westfield. If one of the scenarios has them adding back in all poor kids, that's a problem.

None of the scenarios have them adding back “all poor kids.” Your rhetoric is seriously overblown, especially since you are likely one of the “not poor” families at a school now likely to move to Westfield.

NP. You sound unfamiliar with the area so I'll explain it to you. Bull Run is 43% FARMs. They put the AAP center there to try to help their test scores, so the actual FARMs rate of the zoned neighborhoods is even higher . If you know the area, the few Bull Run areas already zoned to Westfield are SFH homes (small neighborhood off Lee Highway and the few houses down by SYA Sports Park). The rest of the school is lower income housing (old townhomes, high and low rise apartments etc), except for one smallish SFH neighborhood over by Centre Ridge and a handful of homes in Bull Run park. Most of Bull Run population goes on to Centreville HS. The areas zoned to Westfield now don't have a lot of students.

Has FCPS put out an analysis on how the changes would alter the FARMs rates at the schools? You know they have run the numbers internally.

Thanks for providing further evidence that not all the kids at Bull Run now at Centreville are poor.

Moving the rest of Bull Run to Westfield eliminates a split feeder (a goal in Policy 8130) and means we could cut back on spending almost $300 million on a massive expansion of Centreville.

It’s obviously the sensible thing to do, and Westfield’s boundaries after that move would be far more sensible and compact than they are today.

Hmm, I disagree with you---and you clearly don't know the area at all if you think any of your points are accurate-- but I understand that the Chantilly people are really concerned that since they are SO close to Westfield, they are very likely to be moved.
May the odds be ever in your favor.

All my points are accurate. You just want to waste large sums of taxpayer money and maintain a split feeder that could now be eliminated in order to avoid getting redistricted to Westfield or seeing the “wrong kids” moved there.

Isn't it a waste of money to transport kids from much farther away when other neighborhoods are MUCH closer?

DP. That is just one indirect factor in the cost. Brass tacks is whether it takes drivers and buses off the road. A lot of people just assume/pretend that distance is the sole factor when there is so much more that goes into it.

That’s why the FCPS transportation folks won’t ever be able to give a nimble estimate of cost savings. Way too many variables.

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Anonymous wrote:It doesn't seem like FCPS is prioritizing eliminating split feeders, based on the maps. So that's not a real compelling argument, Lees Corner Mama.

They are eliminating split feeders at both Wolftrap and Spring Hill ES.

It’s so obvious some of you have no ability to read a map. If you did you’d know moving Lees Corner when it’s so close to Chantilly would be the epitome of stupid. It appears Reid and several School Board have quickly come to the same conclusion.

+1 yep. That’s why I was literally asking for concrete examples of other places that were also getting moved and how much further they were. Crickets. LOL.

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Anonymous wrote:It doesn't seem like FCPS is prioritizing eliminating split feeders, based on the maps. So that's not a real compelling argument, Lees Corner Mama.

They are eliminating split feeders at both Wolftrap and Spring Hill ES.

It’s so obvious some of you have no ability to read a map. If you did you’d know moving Lees Corner when it’s so close to Chantilly would be the epitome of stupid. It appears Reid and several School Board have quickly come to the same conclusion.

Scenario 1 tries to eliminate Navy as a split feeder - by moving current Navy Chantilly HS families (including Highland Oaks) all the way to Oakton HS. Sorry but not interested in that commute. The elementary school kids all change friends in middle school anyway. I’m not sure I see a need to keep all of the elementary at the same high school?

Scenario 3 also eliminates Navy as a split feeder by moving all current Navy Oakton HS families over to Chantilly HS.