FCPS Skyview Boundary Scenario 1/2/3

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Anonymous wrote:Considering kids change friendships over time, make new friends in middle school, is it that important/does it make sense to keep the entire elementary school at the same high school even at the expense of commute? I’m feeling like aligning middle schools to high schools is more important?

+1. I have a student at Franklin right now and nearly all of his friend group will go to a high school different from him. I am ambivalent about which high school my younger two kids attend, but would like it to be one that the majority of their middle school is attending. To me, that is the issue with Scenario 2 that so many like. It sends the Navy kids to Rocky Run where most will continue on to Chantilly and only a small fraction would go to Oakton (we're in the small fraction).

Does it send all Navy kids to Rocky Run or only some? My guess is this is happening because Franklin will be taken over by Crossfield in all 3 scenarios.

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Franklin, Stone, Rocky Run (AAP only) Stone and Carson all feed to Westfield right now.

Lots of areas are lobbying against Scenario 2 so there is certainly no consensus on it being preferable.

Right now Liberty MS only feeds to CVHS. 2 creates a three way split feeder to CVHS-CHS-Westfield. If getting rid of split feeders is a priority, this is an odd choice. (It also turns Brookfield ES into a split feeder with half going to Stone-Westfield and the other half being moved from Franklin to Rocky Run and then staying at Chantilly.

The Centreville people obviously are against being taken out of CVHS. The Cabell's Mill people are sending around a petition over being moved to Liberty from Rocky Run.

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What is the logic behind creating a three way split feeder at Liberty? That makes no sense.

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Anonymous wrote: What is the logic behind creating a three way split feeder at Liberty? That makes no sense.

I think consultants were playing whack a mole. Game must have ended before they got Liberty fixed.

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Franklin, Stone, Rocky Run (AAP only) Stone and Carson all feed to Westfield right now.

Lots of areas are lobbying against Scenario 2 so there is certainly no consensus on it being preferable.

Right now Liberty MS only feeds to CVHS. 2 creates a three way split feeder to CVHS-CHS-Westfield. If getting rid of split feeders is a priority, this is an odd choice. (It also turns Brookfield ES into a split feeder with half going to Stone-Westfield and the other half being moved from Franklin to Rocky Run and then staying at Chantilly.

The Centreville people obviously are against being taken out of CVHS. The Cabell's Mill people are sending around a petition over being moved to Liberty from Rocky Run.

Scenario 2 also turns Rocky Run into a split feeder by sending Navy kids there, but then only some go as currently zoned to Chantilly and Oakton.

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Anonymous wrote: What is the logic behind creating a three way split feeder at Liberty? That makes no sense.

I think consultants were playing whack a mole. Game must have ended before they got Liberty fixed.

I thought I saw somewhere that each scenario was supposed to accomplish a specific goal, like scenario 1 filled the most buildings to a certain capacity, or reduced travel time, or something?

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Anonymous wrote: What is the logic behind creating a three way split feeder at Liberty? That makes no sense.

I think consultants were playing whack a mole. Game must have ended before they got Liberty fixed.

They took a functioning one-middle feeding to one high school set up and broke it. Some people just want to watch the world burn.

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You elect school board members who always support the superintendent, who in turn hires consultants who don’t know what they’re doing. And now you complain and expect sympathy? Sorry, the chickens are coming home to roost.

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I don't think its fair to Westfield to take 1000 normal families out and then stick them with the awful RIO folks.

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Anonymous wrote:You elect school board members who always support the superintendent, who in turn hires consultants who don’t know what they’re doing. And now you complain and expect sympathy? Sorry, the chickens are coming home to roost.

If anyone sensible would run for school board, this argument would make sense.

We have to work with the chuckleheads and morons who run.

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Anonymous wrote:It doesn't seem like FCPS is prioritizing eliminating split feeders, based on the maps. So that's not a real compelling argument, Lees Corner Mama.

They are eliminating split feeders at both Wolftrap and Spring Hill ES.

It’s so obvious some of you have no ability to read a map. If you did you’d know moving Lees Corner when it’s so close to Chantilly would be the epitome of stupid. It appears Reid and several School Board have quickly come to the same conclusion.

Scenario 1 tries to eliminate Navy as a split feeder - by moving current Navy Chantilly HS families (including Highland Oaks) all the way to Oakton HS. Sorry but not interested in that commute. The elementary school kids all change friends in middle school anyway. I’m not sure I see a need to keep all of the elementary at the same high school?

Scenario 3 also eliminates Navy as a split feeder by moving all current Navy Oakton HS families over to Chantilly HS.

That requires bumping Lee's Corner out--it is not going to happen unless they move out a whole bunch of Brookfield and Poplar Tree.

But why would moving Navy Chantilly HS families to Oakton HS bump Lees Corner out of Chantilly? I don’t get the connection?

OOPs! I Must have misread. I thought you were moving all of Navy IN to Chantilly. But, those Navy kids live across the road from Chantilly. They should not move them out.

Yeah. Scenario 1 moves all Navy kids out to Oakton. Scenario 3 moves all Navy kids in to Chantilly. Scenario 2 leaves the Navy kids’ high schools alone which is why I’m in favor of that one.

Scenario 3 moves all the newly zoned Navy kids to Chantilly, but it also rezones a portion of them to Waples Mill > Oakton. However, if they aren’t touching ES boundaries now, then there will still be a portion of Navy kids who go to Oakton.

I thought that was actually in Scenario 1?

Since they aren’t touching the elementary school boundaries my guess is they would revise the maps then so those kids would stay with the Navy cohort. I am eager to see the new maps at the end of the month.

The scenarios are all crazy because there are too many moving pieces. There are separate issues that really do not affect Chantilly (it is pretty much a given that Oak Hill will leave), Centreville, and Westfield.

Whether Fox Mill or Crossfield goes to Skyview (and one of them should be a given) has nothing to do with how to backfill Westfield. Neither of those schools really has anything to do with Chantilly, Centreville, or Westfield.

So, they have put the shift between Fox Mill and Crossfield into maps while they are shifting around schools south of 50 to determine who goes to Westfield.

These should be two separate things. The only thing that confused the issue was when they put Lee's Corner into the mix--when it should not have been there.

There should be maps for Skyview (north of 50) and separate maps for filling Westfield (south of 50) for high school.

After that, they can figure out middle schools.

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Anonymous wrote:You elect school board members who always support the superintendent, who in turn hires consultants who don’t know what they’re doing. And now you complain and expect sympathy? Sorry, the chickens are coming home to roost.

If anyone sensible would run for school board, this argument would make sense.

We have to work with the chuckleheads and morons who run.

Eliminate party endorsements. That is the problem.

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Anonymous wrote:It doesn't seem like FCPS is prioritizing eliminating split feeders, based on the maps. So that's not a real compelling argument, Lees Corner Mama.

They are eliminating split feeders at both Wolftrap and Spring Hill ES.

It’s so obvious some of you have no ability to read a map. If you did you’d know moving Lees Corner when it’s so close to Chantilly would be the epitome of stupid. It appears Reid and several School Board have quickly come to the same conclusion.

Scenario 1 tries to eliminate Navy as a split feeder - by moving current Navy Chantilly HS families (including Highland Oaks) all the way to Oakton HS. Sorry but not interested in that commute. The elementary school kids all change friends in middle school anyway. I’m not sure I see a need to keep all of the elementary at the same high school?

Scenario 3 also eliminates Navy as a split feeder by moving all current Navy Oakton HS families over to Chantilly HS.

That requires bumping Lee's Corner out--it is not going to happen unless they move out a whole bunch of Brookfield and Poplar Tree.

But why would moving Navy Chantilly HS families to Oakton HS bump Lees Corner out of Chantilly? I don’t get the connection?

OOPs! I Must have misread. I thought you were moving all of Navy IN to Chantilly. But, those Navy kids live across the road from Chantilly. They should not move them out.

Yeah. Scenario 1 moves all Navy kids out to Oakton. Scenario 3 moves all Navy kids in to Chantilly. Scenario 2 leaves the Navy kids’ high schools alone which is why I’m in favor of that one.

Scenario 3 moves all the newly zoned Navy kids to Chantilly, but it also rezones a portion of them to Waples Mill > Oakton. However, if they aren’t touching ES boundaries now, then there will still be a portion of Navy kids who go to Oakton.

I thought that was actually in Scenario 1?

Since they aren’t touching the elementary school boundaries my guess is they would revise the maps then so those kids would stay with the Navy cohort. I am eager to see the new maps at the end of the month.

The scenarios are all crazy because there are too many moving pieces. There are separate issues that really do not affect Chantilly (it is pretty much a given that Oak Hill will leave), Centreville, and Westfield.

Whether Fox Mill or Crossfield goes to Skyview (and one of them should be a given) has nothing to do with how to backfill Westfield. Neither of those schools really has anything to do with Chantilly, Centreville, or Westfield.

So, they have put the shift between Fox Mill and Crossfield into maps while they are shifting around schools south of 50 to determine who goes to Westfield.

These should be two separate things. The only thing that confused the issue was when they put Lee's Corner into the mix--when it should not have been there.

There should be maps for Skyview (north of 50) and separate maps for filling Westfield (south of 50) for high school.

After that, they can figure out middle schools.

I think it would be easier to have separate maps but the issue of who gets sent to Westfield does kind of depend on who gets sent to Skyview.

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Anonymous wrote:It doesn't seem like FCPS is prioritizing eliminating split feeders, based on the maps. So that's not a real compelling argument, Lees Corner Mama.

They are eliminating split feeders at both Wolftrap and Spring Hill ES.

It’s so obvious some of you have no ability to read a map. If you did you’d know moving Lees Corner when it’s so close to Chantilly would be the epitome of stupid. It appears Reid and several School Board have quickly come to the same conclusion.

Scenario 1 tries to eliminate Navy as a split feeder - by moving current Navy Chantilly HS families (including Highland Oaks) all the way to Oakton HS. Sorry but not interested in that commute. The elementary school kids all change friends in middle school anyway. I’m not sure I see a need to keep all of the elementary at the same high school?

Scenario 3 also eliminates Navy as a split feeder by moving all current Navy Oakton HS families over to Chantilly HS.

That requires bumping Lee's Corner out--it is not going to happen unless they move out a whole bunch of Brookfield and Poplar Tree.

But why would moving Navy Chantilly HS families to Oakton HS bump Lees Corner out of Chantilly? I don’t get the connection?

OOPs! I Must have misread. I thought you were moving all of Navy IN to Chantilly. But, those Navy kids live across the road from Chantilly. They should not move them out.

Yeah. Scenario 1 moves all Navy kids out to Oakton. Scenario 3 moves all Navy kids in to Chantilly. Scenario 2 leaves the Navy kids’ high schools alone which is why I’m in favor of that one.

Scenario 3 moves all the newly zoned Navy kids to Chantilly, but it also rezones a portion of them to Waples Mill > Oakton. However, if they aren’t touching ES boundaries now, then there will still be a portion of Navy kids who go to Oakton.

I thought that was actually in Scenario 1?

Since they aren’t touching the elementary school boundaries my guess is they would revise the maps then so those kids would stay with the Navy cohort. I am eager to see the new maps at the end of the month.

The scenarios are all crazy because there are too many moving pieces. There are separate issues that really do not affect Chantilly (it is pretty much a given that Oak Hill will leave), Centreville, and Westfield.

Whether Fox Mill or Crossfield goes to Skyview (and one of them should be a given) has nothing to do with how to backfill Westfield. Neither of those schools really has anything to do with Chantilly, Centreville, or Westfield.

So, they have put the shift between Fox Mill and Crossfield into maps while they are shifting around schools south of 50 to determine who goes to Westfield.

These should be two separate things. The only thing that confused the issue was when they put Lee's Corner into the mix--when it should not have been there.

There should be maps for Skyview (north of 50) and separate maps for filling Westfield (south of 50) for high school.

After that, they can figure out middle schools.

Did FCPS say only areas south of 50 would go to Westfield? Don't two of the maps have areas north of 50 zoned for Westfield? Where are you getting this Route 50 designation?

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Just looking at a map, that would be a completely strange stance for FCPS to take, since Westfield is VERY close to Route 50. Like maybe a mile. Why would they draw an imaginary line there for a school that will have large boundaries? What a weird thing to make up.