FCPS Skyview Boundary Scenario 1/2/3

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Proper decision for Skyview: Scenario 2, but substitute Crossfield for Fox Mill.

Makes the most sense.

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Anonymous wrote:Proper decision for Skyview: Scenario 2, but substitute Crossfield for Fox Mill.

Makes the most sense.

+1,000,000

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Anonymous wrote:It doesn't seem like FCPS is prioritizing eliminating split feeders, based on the maps. So that's not a real compelling argument, Lees Corner Mama.

They are eliminating split feeders at both Wolftrap and Spring Hill ES.

It’s so obvious some of you have no ability to read a map. If you did you’d know moving Lees Corner when it’s so close to Chantilly would be the epitome of stupid. It appears Reid and several School Board have quickly come to the same conclusion.

Scenario 1 tries to eliminate Navy as a split feeder - by moving current Navy Chantilly HS families (including Highland Oaks) all the way to Oakton HS. Sorry but not interested in that commute. The elementary school kids all change friends in middle school anyway. I’m not sure I see a need to keep all of the elementary at the same high school?

Scenario 3 also eliminates Navy as a split feeder by moving all current Navy Oakton HS families over to Chantilly HS.

That requires bumping Lee's Corner out--it is not going to happen unless they move out a whole bunch of Brookfield and Poplar Tree.

And Brookfield and Poplar Tree can make the same argument to stay at Chantilly as Lees Corner. Stronger actually because moving them out of Chantilly would create a new split feeder at Rocky Run while Franklin already currently sends some kids to Westfield.

Franklin does not send to Westfield. Only to Oakton and Chantilly.

Not according to the current scenario listed in the boundary proposal website. It shows some townhomes on the western side of Walney Rd. right near Wegmans as currently Cub Run/Franklin/Westfield.

Well, change that. I never understood why they did that to start with.

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I think thats the sliver of Cub Run people have mentioned makes sense to move. Very few kids over there though.
I wish they had put the spa numbers on the maps.

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Anonymous wrote:Proper decision for Skyview: Scenario 2, but substitute Crossfield for Fox Mill.

Makes the most sense.

Thats the scenario the cabells mill people are most against.

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Anonymous wrote:It doesn't seem like FCPS is prioritizing eliminating split feeders, based on the maps. So that's not a real compelling argument, Lees Corner Mama.

They are eliminating split feeders at both Wolftrap and Spring Hill ES.

It’s so obvious some of you have no ability to read a map. If you did you’d know moving Lees Corner when it’s so close to Chantilly would be the epitome of stupid. It appears Reid and several School Board have quickly come to the same conclusion.

Scenario 1 tries to eliminate Navy as a split feeder - by moving current Navy Chantilly HS families (including Highland Oaks) all the way to Oakton HS. Sorry but not interested in that commute. The elementary school kids all change friends in middle school anyway. I’m not sure I see a need to keep all of the elementary at the same high school?

Scenario 3 also eliminates Navy as a split feeder by moving all current Navy Oakton HS families over to Chantilly HS.

That requires bumping Lee's Corner out--it is not going to happen unless they move out a whole bunch of Brookfield and Poplar Tree.

And Brookfield and Poplar Tree can make the same argument to stay at Chantilly as Lees Corner. Stronger actually because moving them out of Chantilly would create a new split feeder at Rocky Run while Franklin already currently sends some kids to Westfield.

Franklin does not send to Westfield. Only to Oakton and Chantilly.

Currently, Franklin does send kids to Westfield.

No they don’t.

Why does my current Franklin student have a handful of friends/classmates who will go to Westfield, then? They all live near Wegmans and are Franklin --> Westfield kids.

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Because pp doesn't know what she is talking about.

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Anonymous wrote:The thing I wish more parents would realize in these scenarios when seeing the potential for their kids to move to a “worse” school is that neighbors that your kids go to school with already, presumably if a similar SES, would also be at the school. It would normalize and change by very fact of you moving there.

I mean if there are issues with teachers/admin/extracurriculars, those aren’t going to be solved overnight. But the school you’d be moved into isn’t the same as the school is today.

Fox Mill was moved from Oakton in 2008. I can promise you that SLHS is no where near Oakton HS in any measurable manner. Not the class offerings, not the after school clubs, not the overall performance of the students. I get not wanting to move from Oakton to SLHS or WSHS to Lewis or Langley to Herndon. No offense, the one or two schools that they move will not bring the new school up to the level, or even close to the level, of the old school.

Skyview is going to be closer to Chantilly then it is Westfield or SLHS in performance. All you have to do is look at the performance of Floris and Oak Hill to see that there will be a significant number of higher achieving kids at the school. Toss in Crossfield or Fox Mill and you have a very strong school. There are good students at McNair and Coates as well. That is why Oak Hill is probably not too upset with moving, although they would prefer to stay at Chantilly. The Crossfield families that are unhappy with the idea of moving are mainly the Tiger parent families whose kids didn't get into TJ. If they can't go to TJ then they have to go to the next best thing that they can, which is Oakton.

I don't know enough to talk about Centreville or Westfield. The families I know at Westfield are very happy to be there and seem to enjoy the school. A good number are annoyed that there are kids leaving the school because they like the composition of the school.

Very few Crossfield kids end up at TJ. I think you are confusing Crossfield with Navy.

Crossfield sends 15-20 AAP kids to navy who then gets to claim them.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe RIO should backfill Westfield. According to my map, it’s closer to them than Oakton HS.

You either have a dumb map or a dumb brain

Nope. I literally took a street from RIO and mapped it to both schools. It’s actually still further miles wise to Oakton.

Just checked and for me, its about 5 min further, but if you're east side of west ox it gets complicated.

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Anonymous wrote:Proper decision for Skyview: Scenario 2, but substitute Crossfield for Fox Mill.

Makes the most sense.

I agree. It's the least disruptive for everyone. Keeps most people close to their high schools.

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Anonymous wrote:The thing I wish more parents would realize in these scenarios when seeing the potential for their kids to move to a “worse” school is that neighbors that your kids go to school with already, presumably if a similar SES, would also be at the school. It would normalize and change by very fact of you moving there.

I mean if there are issues with teachers/admin/extracurriculars, those aren’t going to be solved overnight. But the school you’d be moved into isn’t the same as the school is today.

Fox Mill was moved from Oakton in 2008. I can promise you that SLHS is no where near Oakton HS in any measurable manner. Not the class offerings, not the after school clubs, not the overall performance of the students. I get not wanting to move from Oakton to SLHS or WSHS to Lewis or Langley to Herndon. No offense, the one or two schools that they move will not bring the new school up to the level, or even close to the level, of the old school.

Skyview is going to be closer to Chantilly then it is Westfield or SLHS in performance. All you have to do is look at the performance of Floris and Oak Hill to see that there will be a significant number of higher achieving kids at the school. Toss in Crossfield or Fox Mill and you have a very strong school. There are good students at McNair and Coates as well. That is why Oak Hill is probably not too upset with moving, although they would prefer to stay at Chantilly. The Crossfield families that are unhappy with the idea of moving are mainly the Tiger parent families whose kids didn't get into TJ. If they can't go to TJ then they have to go to the next best thing that they can, which is Oakton.

I don't know enough to talk about Centreville or Westfield. The families I know at Westfield are very happy to be there and seem to enjoy the school. A good number are annoyed that there are kids leaving the school because they like the composition of the school.

Very few Crossfield kids end up at TJ. I think you are confusing Crossfield with Navy.

Crossfield sends 15-20 AAP kids to navy who then gets to claim them.

It's not that many. It's more like 5.

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Anonymous wrote:Dixit and McDaniel are part of the seven-member School Board faction closely aligned with Reid. It's unlikely they'd go out on a limb and provide assurances to Lees Corner unless that was aligned with Reid's thinking. She's shown before that she has no problem pivoting from an initial boundary proposal in the face of community pushback.

So you may get a few members complaining about Reid cutting deals or about other board members getting involved too soon, but McDaniel and Dixit will likely have the full support of Sandy Anderson, Dannan, Lady, McDaniel, and St. John-Cunning.

I'd stop trying to fight a battle you've probably already lost (getting Lees Corner moved to Westfield) and start thinking about what you could get at Westfield in exchange for Westfield losing so many kids to Skyview and not picking up Lees Corner.

Excellent idea.

Well the obvious answer for Westfield is Poplar Tree. Brookfield is the bulk of Chantilly HS's FARMs kids so they won't move them out.

You’re right but Kathy Smith would never allow it.

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Anonymous wrote:Dixit and McDaniel are part of the seven-member School Board faction closely aligned with Reid. It's unlikely they'd go out on a limb and provide assurances to Lees Corner unless that was aligned with Reid's thinking. She's shown before that she has no problem pivoting from an initial boundary proposal in the face of community pushback.

So you may get a few members complaining about Reid cutting deals or about other board members getting involved too soon, but McDaniel and Dixit will likely have the full support of Sandy Anderson, Dannan, Lady, McDaniel, and St. John-Cunning.

I'd stop trying to fight a battle you've probably already lost (getting Lees Corner moved to Westfield) and start thinking about what you could get at Westfield in exchange for Westfield losing so many kids to Skyview and not picking up Lees Corner.

Excellent idea.

Well the obvious answer for Westfield is Poplar Tree. Brookfield is the bulk of Chantilly HS's FARMs kids so they won't move them out.

You’re right but Kathy Smith would never allow it.

Not a Smith fan here, but Poplar Tree should remain at Chantilly. Maybe, that area around Cabell's Mill could go to Westfield.

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Anonymous wrote:Proper decision for Skyview: Scenario 2, but substitute Crossfield for Fox Mill.

Makes the most sense.

I agree. It's the least disruptive for everyone. Keeps most people close to their high schools.

Except Crossfield folk.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe RIO should backfill Westfield. According to my map, it’s closer to them than Oakton HS.

You either have a dumb map or a dumb brain

Nope. I literally took a street from RIO and mapped it to both schools. It’s actually still further miles wise to Oakton.

Just checked and for me, its about 5 min further, but if you're east side of west ox it gets complicated.

I took a street from a Crossfield neighborhood and it’s clear as day that Westfield is closer.