The state of MCPS is atrocious

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Anonymous wrote:The current state of MCPS would actually be fine if it didn’t cost 3 billion plus a YEAR and much of it in things that don’t affect current classroom - defined (overly generous) pensions and (overly generous) healthcare, largely for their retirees. I think if this place offered the same (low) quality of school at 1/2 property tax DCUM wouldn’t like the ego hit but would be fine with it — because they would have more money for Larlo’s supplementation.

I hate how teachers and retired teachers insist on compensation and health insurance coverage. The nerve of 'em!

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Again your response proves my point…entitled teachers are defensive when you even question the expense of public schools. If MCPS teachers delivered Massachusetts public school results may not question the expense of these benefits but they don’t, not by a long shot…

Massachusetts has independent town based school districts. Not county wide districts like MD. It is apples and oranges. You really can't compare the two states or school districts within each state.

Town based school districts are SO much better. MCPS is simply too large to meet the needs of its students.

So long as your town is wealthy. "I got mine! So there!"

Really? Lower-income students in MA perform better when compared to lower-income students in MD. How do you explain that?

A small, well run school district is simply much better than a large, ineffective one any day. It doesn’t have to do with being wealthy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The current state of MCPS would actually be fine if it didn’t cost 3 billion plus a YEAR and much of it in things that don’t affect current classroom - defined (overly generous) pensions and (overly generous) healthcare, largely for their retirees. I think if this place offered the same (low) quality of school at 1/2 property tax DCUM wouldn’t like the ego hit but would be fine with it — because they would have more money for Larlo’s supplementation.

I hate how teachers and retired teachers insist on compensation and health insurance coverage. The nerve of 'em!

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Again your response proves my point…entitled teachers are defensive when you even question the expense of public schools. If MCPS teachers delivered Massachusetts public school results may not question the expense of these benefits but they don’t, not by a long shot…

Massachusetts has independent town based school districts. Not county wide districts like MD. It is apples and oranges. You really can't compare the two states or school districts within each state.

Town based school districts are SO much better. MCPS is simply too large to meet the needs of its students.

So long as your town is wealthy. "I got mine! So there!"

Really? Lower-income students in MA perform better when compared to lower-income students in MD. How do you explain that?

A small, well run school district is simply much better than a large, ineffective one any day. It doesn’t have to do with being wealthy.

A well-run school district is much better than an ineffectively-run school district? Who knew?! (It doesn't have to do with size...)

[Anonymous]

Apples and oranges again. Or should we say blueberry vs watermelon?

[Anonymous]

Is there anyway MCPS could improve or do most think it's going to continue to decline?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is there anyway MCPS could improve or do most think it's going to continue to decline?

I don't think MCPS is declining. It's true that MCPS has an increasing fraction of students who are higher-needs students, but it's MCPS's job to take all comers.

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Anonymous wrote:The current state of MCPS would actually be fine if it didn’t cost 3 billion plus a YEAR and much of it in things that don’t affect current classroom - defined (overly generous) pensions and (overly generous) healthcare, largely for their retirees. I think if this place offered the same (low) quality of school at 1/2 property tax DCUM wouldn’t like the ego hit but would be fine with it — because they would have more money for Larlo’s supplementation.

I hate how teachers and retired teachers insist on compensation and health insurance coverage. The nerve of 'em!

/s

Again your response proves my point…entitled teachers are defensive when you even question the expense of public schools. If MCPS teachers delivered Massachusetts public school results may not question the expense of these benefits but they don’t, not by a long shot…

Massachusetts has independent town based school districts. Not county wide districts like MD. It is apples and oranges. You really can't compare the two states or school districts within each state.

Town based school districts are SO much better. MCPS is simply too large to meet the needs of its students.

So long as your town is wealthy. "I got mine! So there!"

Really? Lower-income students in MA perform better when compared to lower-income students in MD. How do you explain that?

A small, well run school district is simply much better than a large, ineffective one any day. It doesn’t have to do with being wealthy.

Maybe they have more lower income Asians than we do.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The current state of MCPS would actually be fine if it didn’t cost 3 billion plus a YEAR and much of it in things that don’t affect current classroom - defined (overly generous) pensions and (overly generous) healthcare, largely for their retirees. I think if this place offered the same (low) quality of school at 1/2 property tax DCUM wouldn’t like the ego hit but would be fine with it — because they would have more money for Larlo’s supplementation.

I hate how teachers and retired teachers insist on compensation and health insurance coverage. The nerve of 'em!

/s

Again your response proves my point…entitled teachers are defensive when you even question the expense of public schools. If MCPS teachers delivered Massachusetts public school results may not question the expense of these benefits but they don’t, not by a long shot…

Massachusetts has independent town based school districts. Not county wide districts like MD. It is apples and oranges. You really can't compare the two states or school districts within each state.

Town based school districts are SO much better. MCPS is simply too large to meet the needs of its students.

So long as your town is wealthy. "I got mine! So there!"

Really? Lower-income students in MA perform better when compared to lower-income students in MD. How do you explain that?

A small, well run school district is simply much better than a large, ineffective one any day. It doesn’t have to do with being wealthy.

Maybe they have more lower income Asians than we do.

DCUM never misses a chance to be bigoted.

[Anonymous]

If people are judging public schools in MD based on MCAP scores, you can stop there. MCAP, at least the English test, is a series of random reading passages about random topics. It doesn't test what students are being taught in class. Why? Every MD district has a different curriculum. So your 3rd grader might have spent his/her year reading a few different novels and then is tested on random reading passages that have nothing to do with what they were taught. Who will do well on tests of general knowledge? Wealthier kids who travel, read outside of school, speak English proficiently, etc. It's not rocket science why students aren't testing at the proficient level.

It would be like you spending a school year reading four novels and then you are tested on reading passages about humpback whales, female inventors in the 20th century, early pioneers, space exploration. You have not studied these topics but you might know something about them if you have the background knowledge. Either the entire state adopts the same curriculum or districts need to give tests based on what students are being taught in that curriculum.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So wait high schoolers in moco don’t even get textbooks anymore? Lmao what?!

And guess what — apparently we’re supposed to be ok with it and private school parents are idiots for opting out of this clown show!

The mast majority of MoCo parents are ok with it. Private school parents still live and have nostalgia of the dark ages.
Welcome to the 21st century!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think the people who think mcps is fine are more likely to be: parents of typical kids, parents in w clusters, parents who don't know any better for various reasons, and parents who are coming from even worse school systems.

I think the people who think MCPS is fine are more likely to be:

1. Parents of neurotypical kids
2. Parents who are able to keep things in perspective

Does MCPS have problems? Yes. Do I have the time and energy to waste on expecting perfection from MCPS? No. But you do you.

I’m not ok with mediocrity. I guess you are.

It's actually way worse then mediocrity. The majority of MCPS students are not proficient in Language Arts and in Math. That is not 'mediocrity'. That is simply trash.

We know that private schools suck at math but for your knowledge, 28% is not "the majority". 72% of students are proficient in Language Arts.
In fact, they are probably more proficient than you because they would not write "way worse then mediocrity."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think the people who think mcps is fine are more likely to be: parents of typical kids, parents in w clusters, parents who don't know any better for various reasons, and parents who are coming from even worse school systems.

I think the people who think MCPS is fine are more likely to be:

1. Parents of neurotypical kids
2. Parents who are able to keep things in perspective

Does MCPS have problems? Yes. Do I have the time and energy to waste on expecting perfection from MCPS? No. But you do you.

I’m not ok with mediocrity. I guess you are.

It's actually way worse then mediocrity. The majority of MCPS students are not proficient in Language Arts and in Math. That is not 'mediocrity'. That is simply trash.

We know that private schools suck at math but for your knowledge, 28% is not "the majority". 72% of students are proficient in Language Arts.
In fact, they are probably more proficient than you because they would not write "way worse then mediocrity."

Where are you getting your stats? That is simply not true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The current state of MCPS would actually be fine if it didn’t cost 3 billion plus a YEAR and much of it in things that don’t affect current classroom - defined (overly generous) pensions and (overly generous) healthcare, largely for their retirees. I think if this place offered the same (low) quality of school at 1/2 property tax DCUM wouldn’t like the ego hit but would be fine with it — because they would have more money for Larlo’s supplementation.

I hate how teachers and retired teachers insist on compensation and health insurance coverage. The nerve of 'em!

/s

Again your response proves my point…entitled teachers are defensive when you even question the expense of public schools. If MCPS teachers delivered Massachusetts public school results may not question the expense of these benefits but they don’t, not by a long shot…

I am the PP you are responding to. I am not a teacher. However, I do believe that teachers are entitled to compensation. The Fair Labor Standards Act says so too.

Strawman. Literally NO ONE is saying teachers shouldn’t be paid. JFC.

Folks are definitely saying teachers should be paid less than they currently are, which is absurd.

People want results from this school system. Is that absurd?

How exactly will cutting teacher pay achieve that?

I’m the PP questioning Moco tax dollars- is it all teacher pay? When 90% of the budget goes to pay, healthcare and pensions, then what else IS there to cut if poor performance? The pols have made it into a jobs program worthy of Venezuela.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the people who think mcps is fine are more likely to be: parents of typical kids, parents in w clusters, parents who don't know any better for various reasons, and parents who are coming from even worse school systems.

I think the people who think MCPS is fine are more likely to be:

1. Parents of neurotypical kids
2. Parents who are able to keep things in perspective

Does MCPS have problems? Yes. Do I have the time and energy to waste on expecting perfection from MCPS? No. But you do you.

I’m not ok with mediocrity. I guess you are.

It's actually way worse then mediocrity. The majority of MCPS students are not proficient in Language Arts and in Math. That is not 'mediocrity'. That is simply trash.

We know that private schools suck at math but for your knowledge, 28% is not "the majority". 72% of students are proficient in Language Arts.
In fact, they are probably more proficient than you because they would not write "way worse then mediocrity."

Where are you getting your stats? That is simply not true.

You don't know because you're not a MCPS parent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So wait high schoolers in moco don’t even get textbooks anymore? Lmao what?!

And guess what — apparently we’re supposed to be ok with it and private school parents are idiots for opting out of this clown show!

The mast majority of MoCo parents are ok with it. Private school parents still live and have nostalgia of the dark ages.
Welcome to the 21st century!

Wut

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So wait high schoolers in moco don’t even get textbooks anymore? Lmao what?!

And guess what — apparently we’re supposed to be ok with it and private school parents are idiots for opting out of this clown show!

The mast majority of MoCo parents are ok with it. Private school parents still live and have nostalgia of the dark ages.
Welcome to the 21st century!

No, many of us are not ok with it. Kids test scores and performance are way down. Funny thing once they took away textbooks and structured teaching things declined.