The state of MCPS is atrocious

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:JFC, i agree that MCPS is a mess, but they had nothing to do with the decision to grant this perv a new trial. Give it a rest Janis

Mcps had everything to do with keeping vigna in the classroom for 15 years after first complaints about his lap sitting with little girls.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here’s a specific data source that shows a huge problem MCPS glosses over.

https://moco360.media/2023/01/25/only-31-of-montgomery-county-students-grades-3-8-proficient-in-math-data-shows/

Only 31% of MCPS students grades 3-8 are proficient in math.

A follow up survey is needed: For those who tested proficient, how many received private tutoring? I’m sure the numbers would have been worse if some families hadn’t paid for private tutoring.

Old news. This was the MCAP, a badly designed test which most don't care about.
As you can see, No school district shows proficiency not just MCPS. Highest was 38%.

You don’t like the data so in typical MCPS fashion, you blame the test instead of accepting there’s a serious problem. The MCAP has been around for over a decade. If it’s a bad assessment, there’s been time to give the state department that feedback to design a better test.

The test is measuring on grade level standards, skills that all students within a grade should have mastered. You really think it’s ok that 69% of students assessed are not proficient with on grade level math skills on a non-MCPS test? So sad that’s the attitude from MCPS Central Office as well.

You have to admit that there’s a problem before you can develop a plan to fix it.

No, it has not. It was first administered after the pandemic to replace PARCC.
It's easy to spot the trolls who have no idea of what they're talking about.

Exactly. Everything is good, everything is fine, plus sand is tasty so that's why I keep my head buried in it.

Congratulations to mcps! They got John Vigna out of prison! Now delete this!

MCPS got John Vigna out of prison? You don't say!
Seriously, how tight is your tinfoil hat?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:JFC, i agree that MCPS is a mess, but they had nothing to do with the decision to grant this perv a new trial. Give it a rest Janis

That PP is seriously deranged.
She needs help

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here’s a specific data source that shows a huge problem MCPS glosses over.

https://moco360.media/2023/01/25/only-31-of-montgomery-county-students-grades-3-8-proficient-in-math-data-shows/

Only 31% of MCPS students grades 3-8 are proficient in math.

A follow up survey is needed: For those who tested proficient, how many received private tutoring? I’m sure the numbers would have been worse if some families hadn’t paid for private tutoring.

Old news. This was the MCAP, a badly designed test which most don't care about.
As you can see, No school district shows proficiency not just MCPS. Highest was 38%.

You don’t like the data so in typical MCPS fashion, you blame the test instead of accepting there’s a serious problem. The MCAP has been around for over a decade. If it’s a bad assessment, there’s been time to give the state department that feedback to design a better test.

The test is measuring on grade level standards, skills that all students within a grade should have mastered. You really think it’s ok that 69% of students assessed are not proficient with on grade level math skills on a non-MCPS test? So sad that’s the attitude from MCPS Central Office as well.

You have to admit that there’s a problem before you can develop a plan to fix it.

No, it has not. It was first administered after the pandemic to replace PARCC.
It's easy to spot the trolls who have no idea of what they're talking about.

Exactly. Everything is good, everything is fine, plus sand is tasty so that's why I keep my head buried in it.

Congratulations to mcps! They got John Vigna out of prison! Now delete this!

MCPS got John Vigna out of prison? You don't say!
Seriously, how tight is your tinfoil hat?

Mcps staff are celebrating.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:JFC, i agree that MCPS is a mess, but they had nothing to do with the decision to grant this perv a new trial. Give it a rest Janis

That PP is seriously deranged.
She needs help

Vigna supporters are the ones that have been spreading the news, not the state’s attorney.

You are right it is deranged to cheer a convicted sex offender getting out of prison.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here’s a specific data source that shows a huge problem MCPS glosses over.

https://moco360.media/2023/01/25/only-31-of-montgomery-county-students-grades-3-8-proficient-in-math-data-shows/

Only 31% of MCPS students grades 3-8 are proficient in math.

A follow up survey is needed: For those who tested proficient, how many received private tutoring? I’m sure the numbers would have been worse if some families hadn’t paid for private tutoring.

Old news. This was the MCAP, a badly designed test which most don't care about.
As you can see, No school district shows proficiency not just MCPS. Highest was 38%.

Excuses.

What's the excuses? No one shows proficiency in that test, therefore something is definitely wrong with it. This has been discussed at length here.

So then there should be ample other evidence that kids are actually doing well in math.

Why don't they bring back nationally normed tests? I remember taking the Iowa assessments in 3-5th grade. We received a score report by the end of the year in the mail showing how we scored against a national sample of students our age. My DS took these assessments in Catholic school too. He also took the Cogat and the HSPT. They all gave nationally normed scores.

This is what I saw unfold. MCPS did use Nationally-normed, race-neutral testing. When AEI started going downhill, the Nationally-normed tested was thrown out the window and forums like this one were posting comments like "national tests don't matter" or subliminally racist comments like "asian students were cheating by using prep courses." I think it was an asian name (Dr Li's prep course called out?), but the comments specifically implied asians were cheating on national exams.

My take is that if it was possible to game test, MCPS would have 1600 SAT scores across the board and it's really just libel. I hope whomever is called out like that sues MCPS, if that was their rationale for not using national test standards.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Finally, how many kids are honestly going beyond calc BC by their senior year? That’s so incredibly rare and you’re acting as though it’s the norm.

It's rare overall but it's clumpy. Like saying "it's incredibly rare to not have a car in the USA", but there are places where it's the norm.

At certain schools in the WPES virtual cluster, about 20% (maybe 15-20%) take Calc AB or BC by junior year.

At Walter Johnson, Calc BC in 10th and 11th is advertised publicly on the pathways doc, not communicated privately as an exception.
https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/schools/high-schools/r-w/wjhs/coursebook/mathematics-department-20-21.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here’s a specific data source that shows a huge problem MCPS glosses over.

https://moco360.media/2023/01/25/only-31-of-montgomery-county-students-grades-3-8-proficient-in-math-data-shows/

Only 31% of MCPS students grades 3-8 are proficient in math.

A follow up survey is needed: For those who tested proficient, how many received private tutoring? I’m sure the numbers would have been worse if some families hadn’t paid for private tutoring.

Old news. This was the MCAP, a badly designed test which most don't care about.
As you can see, No school district shows proficiency not just MCPS. Highest was 38%.

You don’t like the data so in typical MCPS fashion, you blame the test instead of accepting there’s a serious problem. The MCAP has been around for over a decade. If it’s a bad assessment, there’s been time to give the state department that feedback to design a better test.

The test is measuring on grade level standards, skills that all students within a grade should have mastered. You really think it’s ok that 69% of students assessed are not proficient with on grade level math skills on a non-MCPS test? So sad that’s the attitude from MCPS Central Office as well.

You have to admit that there’s a problem before you can develop a plan to fix it.

Yes, the MCAP was a new and unproven test whose metrics are questionable at best.

[Anonymous]

Adam Pagnucco eloquently and precisely slapped MCPS down for its current state. I highly recommend folks read it: https://montgomeryperspective.com/2023/08/28/accountability-now/

My favorite bit:

That said, their current approach to the sexual harassment scandal reminds me of the pre-Me Too era when organizations like Fox News would send victims to their HR departments, lawyer up and activate their PR people rather than genuinely try to stop such behavior. And it’s not just about MCPS itself. Other than County Executive Marc Elrich and Council Members Dawn Luedtke and Evan Glass, all of whom have called for independent investigations, elected officials with power over MCPS seem silent and/or reluctant to get involved. Just look at the excuses that some of them offered to MoCo360. One council member who refused to sign the Luedtke/Glass letter calling for an inspector general takeover requested a “cost/benefit analysis” before doing so. Since when does the integrity of the school system require a “cost/benefit analysis?”

It’s all just so pathetic and disappointing.

MCPS leadership and the school board are circling the wagons right now. They seem to believe that they are bullet proof and answer to no one. In the short term, they may be right. The state has ultimate authority over them but seems unlikely to step in. So they can have their carefully vetted investigation, selectively report its findings to the public, set up their legal defense strategy against litigation and move on. But there are medium-term and long-term costs to this that they will one day face.

[Anonymous]

To the OP of this thread, are you still in MCPS?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Adam Pagnucco eloquently and precisely slapped MCPS down for its current state. I highly recommend folks read it: https://montgomeryperspective.com/2023/08/28/accountability-now/

My favorite bit:

That said, their current approach to the sexual harassment scandal reminds me of the pre-Me Too era when organizations like Fox News would send victims to their HR departments, lawyer up and activate their PR people rather than genuinely try to stop such behavior. And it’s not just about MCPS itself. Other than County Executive Marc Elrich and Council Members Dawn Luedtke and Evan Glass, all of whom have called for independent investigations, elected officials with power over MCPS seem silent and/or reluctant to get involved. Just look at the excuses that some of them offered to MoCo360. One council member who refused to sign the Luedtke/Glass letter calling for an inspector general takeover requested a “cost/benefit analysis” before doing so. Since when does the integrity of the school system require a “cost/benefit analysis?”

It’s all just so pathetic and disappointing.

MCPS leadership and the school board are circling the wagons right now. They seem to believe that they are bullet proof and answer to no one. In the short term, they may be right. The state has ultimate authority over them but seems unlikely to step in. So they can have their carefully vetted investigation, selectively report its findings to the public, set up their legal defense strategy against litigation and move on. But there are medium-term and long-term costs to this that they will one day face.

So have they taken the approach of not issuing statements on wrongdoings because they don't have $ to pay for a consultant to write statements, for example the recent news about a teacher.?

[Anonymous]

Stupidity is a “refusal to learn”. Yes we have lots of unmotivated students who do as little as possible