The state of MCPS is atrocious

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Anonymous wrote:So wait high schoolers in moco don’t even get textbooks anymore? Lmao what?!

And guess what — apparently we’re supposed to be ok with it and private school parents are idiots for opting out of this clown show!

The mast majority of MoCo parents are ok with it. Private school parents still live and have nostalgia of the dark ages.
Welcome to the 21st century!

No, many of us are not ok with it. Kids test scores and performance are way down. Funny thing once they took away textbooks and structured teaching things declined.

DCUM is not real world. Majority of REAL MoCo residents (82%) are satisfied with MCPS.
Welcome to the real world.

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Anonymous wrote:So wait high schoolers in moco don’t even get textbooks anymore? Lmao what?!

And guess what — apparently we’re supposed to be ok with it and private school parents are idiots for opting out of this clown show!

The mast majority of MoCo parents are ok with it. Private school parents still live and have nostalgia of the dark ages.
Welcome to the 21st century!

No, many of us are not ok with it. Kids test scores and performance are way down. Funny thing once they took away textbooks and structured teaching things declined.

DCUM is not real world. Majority of REAL MoCo residents (82%) are satisfied with MCPS.
Welcome to the real world.

Source?

[Anonymous]

And if your source is from 2019, it’s irrelevant. COVID revealed to a ton of parents how awful MCPS really is.

Moreover, only 17% of the people contacted for the 2019 survey responded.

https://moco360.media/2019/10/03/parents-pleased-with-mcps-survey-shows/

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Anonymous wrote:The current state of MCPS would actually be fine if it didn’t cost 3 billion plus a YEAR and much of it in things that don’t affect current classroom - defined (overly generous) pensions and (overly generous) healthcare, largely for their retirees. I think if this place offered the same (low) quality of school at 1/2 property tax DCUM wouldn’t like the ego hit but would be fine with it — because they would have more money for Larlo’s supplementation.

I hate how teachers and retired teachers insist on compensation and health insurance coverage. The nerve of 'em!

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Again your response proves my point…entitled teachers are defensive when you even question the expense of public schools. If MCPS teachers delivered Massachusetts public school results may not question the expense of these benefits but they don’t, not by a long shot…

I am the PP you are responding to. I am not a teacher. However, I do believe that teachers are entitled to compensation. The Fair Labor Standards Act says so too.

Strawman. Literally NO ONE is saying teachers shouldn’t be paid. JFC.

Folks are definitely saying teachers should be paid less than they currently are, which is absurd.

People want results from this school system. Is that absurd?

How exactly will cutting teacher pay achieve that?

I’m the PP questioning Moco tax dollars- is it all teacher pay? When 90% of the budget goes to pay, healthcare and pensions, then what else IS there to cut if poor performance? The pols have made it into a jobs program worthy of Venezuela.

You are complaining that most of the school budget goes to paying teachers? Really? Would you prefer to cut labor costs by using automation? Or maybe by increasing class size?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If people are judging public schools in MD based on MCAP scores, you can stop there. MCAP, at least the English test, is a series of random reading passages about random topics. It doesn't test what students are being taught in class. Why? Every MD district has a different curriculum. So your 3rd grader might have spent his/her year reading a few different novels and then is tested on random reading passages that have nothing to do with what they were taught. Who will do well on tests of general knowledge? Wealthier kids who travel, read outside of school, speak English proficiently, etc. It's not rocket science why students aren't testing at the proficient level.

It would be like you spending a school year reading four novels and then you are tested on reading passages about humpback whales, female inventors in the 20th century, early pioneers, space exploration. You have not studied these topics but you might know something about them if you have the background knowledge. Either the entire state adopts the same curriculum or districts need to give tests based on what students are being taught in that curriculum.

Spending multiple days doing useless tests seems like a problem in itself.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If people are judging public schools in MD based on MCAP scores, you can stop there. MCAP, at least the English test, is a series of random reading passages about random topics. It doesn't test what students are being taught in class. Why? Every MD district has a different curriculum. So your 3rd grader might have spent his/her year reading a few different novels and then is tested on random reading passages that have nothing to do with what they were taught. Who will do well on tests of general knowledge? Wealthier kids who travel, read outside of school, speak English proficiently, etc. It's not rocket science why students aren't testing at the proficient level.

It would be like you spending a school year reading four novels and then you are tested on reading passages about humpback whales, female inventors in the 20th century, early pioneers, space exploration. You have not studied these topics but you might know something about them if you have the background knowledge. Either the entire state adopts the same curriculum or districts need to give tests based on what students are being taught in that curriculum.

Spending multiple days doing useless tests seems like a problem in itself.

You're complaining that MCPS is complying with state and federal law?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If people are judging public schools in MD based on MCAP scores, you can stop there. MCAP, at least the English test, is a series of random reading passages about random topics. It doesn't test what students are being taught in class. Why? Every MD district has a different curriculum. So your 3rd grader might have spent his/her year reading a few different novels and then is tested on random reading passages that have nothing to do with what they were taught. Who will do well on tests of general knowledge? Wealthier kids who travel, read outside of school, speak English proficiently, etc. It's not rocket science why students aren't testing at the proficient level.

It would be like you spending a school year reading four novels and then you are tested on reading passages about humpback whales, female inventors in the 20th century, early pioneers, space exploration. You have not studied these topics but you might know something about them if you have the background knowledge. Either the entire state adopts the same curriculum or districts need to give tests based on what students are being taught in that curriculum.

Spending multiple days doing useless tests seems like a problem in itself.

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You can opt out of most testing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So wait high schoolers in moco don’t even get textbooks anymore? Lmao what?!

And guess what — apparently we’re supposed to be ok with it and private school parents are idiots for opting out of this clown show!

The mast majority of MoCo parents are ok with it. Private school parents still live and have nostalgia of the dark ages.
Welcome to the 21st century!

No, many of us are not ok with it. Kids test scores and performance are way down. Funny thing once they took away textbooks and structured teaching things declined.

DCUM is not real world. Majority of REAL MoCo residents (82%) are satisfied with MCPS.
Welcome to the real world.

Most moco residents don’t have kids in mcps.

[Anonymous]

If that is true then mcps residents have a really low bar in their

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If people are judging public schools in MD based on MCAP scores, you can stop there. MCAP, at least the English test, is a series of random reading passages about random topics. It doesn't test what students are being taught in class. Why? Every MD district has a different curriculum. So your 3rd grader might have spent his/her year reading a few different novels and then is tested on random reading passages that have nothing to do with what they were taught. Who will do well on tests of general knowledge? Wealthier kids who travel, read outside of school, speak English proficiently, etc. It's not rocket science why students aren't testing at the proficient level.

It would be like you spending a school year reading four novels and then you are tested on reading passages about humpback whales, female inventors in the 20th century, early pioneers, space exploration. You have not studied these topics but you might know something about them if you have the background knowledge. Either the entire state adopts the same curriculum or districts need to give tests based on what students are being taught in that curriculum.

Spending multiple days doing useless tests seems like a problem in itself.

You're complaining that MCPS is complying with state and federal law?

State and federal law require MCPS to administer a test that, according to PP, "doesn't test what students are being taught in class?"

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If people are judging public schools in MD based on MCAP scores, you can stop there. MCAP, at least the English test, is a series of random reading passages about random topics. It doesn't test what students are being taught in class. Why? Every MD district has a different curriculum. So your 3rd grader might have spent his/her year reading a few different novels and then is tested on random reading passages that have nothing to do with what they were taught. Who will do well on tests of general knowledge? Wealthier kids who travel, read outside of school, speak English proficiently, etc. It's not rocket science why students aren't testing at the proficient level.

It would be like you spending a school year reading four novels and then you are tested on reading passages about humpback whales, female inventors in the 20th century, early pioneers, space exploration. You have not studied these topics but you might know something about them if you have the background knowledge. Either the entire state adopts the same curriculum or districts need to give tests based on what students are being taught in that curriculum.

Spending multiple days doing useless tests seems like a problem in itself.

You're complaining that MCPS is complying with state and federal law?

State and federal law require MCPS to administer a test that, according to PP, "doesn't test what students are being taught in class?"

Yes.
https://marylandpublicschools.org/about/Pages/DAAIT/Assessment/index.aspx

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If people are judging public schools in MD based on MCAP scores, you can stop there. MCAP, at least the English test, is a series of random reading passages about random topics. It doesn't test what students are being taught in class. Why? Every MD district has a different curriculum. So your 3rd grader might have spent his/her year reading a few different novels and then is tested on random reading passages that have nothing to do with what they were taught. Who will do well on tests of general knowledge? Wealthier kids who travel, read outside of school, speak English proficiently, etc. It's not rocket science why students aren't testing at the proficient level.

It would be like you spending a school year reading four novels and then you are tested on reading passages about humpback whales, female inventors in the 20th century, early pioneers, space exploration. You have not studied these topics but you might know something about them if you have the background knowledge. Either the entire state adopts the same curriculum or districts need to give tests based on what students are being taught in that curriculum.

Spending multiple days doing useless tests seems like a problem in itself.

You're complaining that MCPS is complying with state and federal law?

State and federal law require MCPS to administer a test that, according to PP, "doesn't test what students are being taught in class?"

Yes.
https://marylandpublicschools.org/about/Pages/DAAIT/Assessment/index.aspx

Is MCPS prohibited from teaching kids the subjects that they are being tested on?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So wait high schoolers in moco don’t even get textbooks anymore? Lmao what?!

And guess what — apparently we’re supposed to be ok with it and private school parents are idiots for opting out of this clown show!

The mast majority of MoCo parents are ok with it. Private school parents still live and have nostalgia of the dark ages.
Welcome to the 21st century!

No, many of us are not ok with it. Kids test scores and performance are way down. Funny thing once they took away textbooks and structured teaching things declined.

DCUM is not real world. Majority of REAL MoCo residents (82%) are satisfied with MCPS.
Welcome to the real world.

Source?

Google is your friend.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If people are judging public schools in MD based on MCAP scores, you can stop there. MCAP, at least the English test, is a series of random reading passages about random topics. It doesn't test what students are being taught in class. Why? Every MD district has a different curriculum. So your 3rd grader might have spent his/her year reading a few different novels and then is tested on random reading passages that have nothing to do with what they were taught. Who will do well on tests of general knowledge? Wealthier kids who travel, read outside of school, speak English proficiently, etc. It's not rocket science why students aren't testing at the proficient level.

It would be like you spending a school year reading four novels and then you are tested on reading passages about humpback whales, female inventors in the 20th century, early pioneers, space exploration. You have not studied these topics but you might know something about them if you have the background knowledge. Either the entire state adopts the same curriculum or districts need to give tests based on what students are being taught in that curriculum.

Spending multiple days doing useless tests seems like a problem in itself.

You're complaining that MCPS is complying with state and federal law?

State and federal law require MCPS to administer a test that, according to PP, "doesn't test what students are being taught in class?"

Yes.
https://marylandpublicschools.org/about/Pages/DAAIT/Assessment/index.aspx

Is MCPS prohibited from teaching kids the subjects that they are being tested on?

MCPS is teaching the subjects.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So wait high schoolers in moco don’t even get textbooks anymore? Lmao what?!

And guess what — apparently we’re supposed to be ok with it and private school parents are idiots for opting out of this clown show!

The mast majority of MoCo parents are ok with it. Private school parents still live and have nostalgia of the dark ages.
Welcome to the 21st century!

No, many of us are not ok with it. Kids test scores and performance are way down. Funny thing once they took away textbooks and structured teaching things declined.

DCUM is not real world. Majority of REAL MoCo residents (82%) are satisfied with MCPS.
Welcome to the real world.

Most moco residents don’t have kids in mcps.

Wrong.
Over 85% of MoCo residents send their kids to MCPS.