The state of MCPS is atrocious

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The current state of MCPS would actually be fine if it didn’t cost 3 billion plus a YEAR and much of it in things that don’t affect current classroom - defined (overly generous) pensions and (overly generous) healthcare, largely for their retirees. I think if this place offered the same (low) quality of school at 1/2 property tax DCUM wouldn’t like the ego hit but would be fine with it — because they would have more money for Larlo’s supplementation.

I hate how teachers and retired teachers insist on compensation and health insurance coverage. The nerve of 'em!

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Again your response proves my point…entitled teachers are defensive when you even question the expense of public schools. If MCPS teachers delivered Massachusetts public school results may not question the expense of these benefits but they don’t, not by a long shot…

Massachusetts has independent town based school districts. Not county wide districts like MD. It is apples and oranges. You really can't compare the two states or school districts within each state.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The current state of MCPS would actually be fine if it didn’t cost 3 billion plus a YEAR and much of it in things that don’t affect current classroom - defined (overly generous) pensions and (overly generous) healthcare, largely for their retirees. I think if this place offered the same (low) quality of school at 1/2 property tax DCUM wouldn’t like the ego hit but would be fine with it — because they would have more money for Larlo’s supplementation.

I hate how teachers and retired teachers insist on compensation and health insurance coverage. The nerve of 'em!

/s

Again your response proves my point…entitled teachers are defensive when you even question the expense of public schools. If MCPS teachers delivered Massachusetts public school results may not question the expense of these benefits but they don’t, not by a long shot…

Massachusetts has independent town based school districts. Not county wide districts like MD. It is apples and oranges. You really can't compare the two states or school districts within each state.

Town based school districts are SO much better. MCPS is simply too large to meet the needs of its students.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The current state of MCPS would actually be fine if it didn’t cost 3 billion plus a YEAR and much of it in things that don’t affect current classroom - defined (overly generous) pensions and (overly generous) healthcare, largely for their retirees. I think if this place offered the same (low) quality of school at 1/2 property tax DCUM wouldn’t like the ego hit but would be fine with it — because they would have more money for Larlo’s supplementation.

I hate how teachers and retired teachers insist on compensation and health insurance coverage. The nerve of 'em!

/s

Again your response proves my point…entitled teachers are defensive when you even question the expense of public schools. If MCPS teachers delivered Massachusetts public school results may not question the expense of these benefits but they don’t, not by a long shot…

Massachusetts has independent town based school districts. Not county wide districts like MD. It is apples and oranges. You really can't compare the two states or school districts within each state.

Town based school districts are SO much better. MCPS is simply too large to meet the needs of its students.

You keep posting that but its ill relevant as that is not how MD is set up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think the people who think mcps is fine are more likely to be: parents of typical kids, parents in w clusters, parents who don't know any better for various reasons, and parents who are coming from even worse school systems.

I think the people who think MCPS is fine are more likely to be:

1. Parents of neurotypical kids
2. Parents who are able to keep things in perspective

Does MCPS have problems? Yes. Do I have the time and energy to waste on expecting perfection from MCPS? No. But you do you.

I’m not ok with mediocrity. I guess you are.

It's actually way worse then mediocrity. The majority of MCPS students are not proficient in Language Arts and in Math. That is not 'mediocrity'. That is simply trash.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the people who think mcps is fine are more likely to be: parents of typical kids, parents in w clusters, parents who don't know any better for various reasons, and parents who are coming from even worse school systems.

I think the people who think MCPS is fine are more likely to be:

1. Parents of neurotypical kids
2. Parents who are able to keep things in perspective

Does MCPS have problems? Yes. Do I have the time and energy to waste on expecting perfection from MCPS? No. But you do you.

I’m not ok with mediocrity. I guess you are.

It's actually way worse then mediocrity. The majority of MCPS students are not proficient in Language Arts and in Math. That is not 'mediocrity'. That is simply trash.

So true. And yet all these people seem to think they can teach their kids through “supplementing.” Seems like it’s failing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The current state of MCPS would actually be fine if it didn’t cost 3 billion plus a YEAR and much of it in things that don’t affect current classroom - defined (overly generous) pensions and (overly generous) healthcare, largely for their retirees. I think if this place offered the same (low) quality of school at 1/2 property tax DCUM wouldn’t like the ego hit but would be fine with it — because they would have more money for Larlo’s supplementation.

I hate how teachers and retired teachers insist on compensation and health insurance coverage. The nerve of 'em!

/s

Again your response proves my point…entitled teachers are defensive when you even question the expense of public schools. If MCPS teachers delivered Massachusetts public school results may not question the expense of these benefits but they don’t, not by a long shot…

I am the PP you are responding to. I am not a teacher. However, I do believe that teachers are entitled to compensation. The Fair Labor Standards Act says so too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the people who think mcps is fine are more likely to be: parents of typical kids, parents in w clusters, parents who don't know any better for various reasons, and parents who are coming from even worse school systems.

I think the people who think MCPS is fine are more likely to be:

1. Parents of neurotypical kids
2. Parents who are able to keep things in perspective

Does MCPS have problems? Yes. Do I have the time and energy to waste on expecting perfection from MCPS? No. But you do you.

+1. I add :

1. People capable of doing math to realize what it would take to get what parents and politicians expect/say vs what they are willing to fund

2. People who recognize it could be worse(much worse)

3. People who know DCUM complaints don’t equal the greater population of MoCo. And if it does, we’d see much greater parental involvement in schools, community and BOE election and oversight.

C'mon - DCUM may be a toxic cesspool, but it's our toxic cesspool!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The current state of MCPS would actually be fine if it didn’t cost 3 billion plus a YEAR and much of it in things that don’t affect current classroom - defined (overly generous) pensions and (overly generous) healthcare, largely for their retirees. I think if this place offered the same (low) quality of school at 1/2 property tax DCUM wouldn’t like the ego hit but would be fine with it — because they would have more money for Larlo’s supplementation.

I hate how teachers and retired teachers insist on compensation and health insurance coverage. The nerve of 'em!

/s

Again your response proves my point…entitled teachers are defensive when you even question the expense of public schools. If MCPS teachers delivered Massachusetts public school results may not question the expense of these benefits but they don’t, not by a long shot…

Massachusetts has independent town based school districts. Not county wide districts like MD. It is apples and oranges. You really can't compare the two states or school districts within each state.

Town based school districts are SO much better. MCPS is simply too large to meet the needs of its students.

So long as your town is wealthy. "I got mine! So there!"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The current state of MCPS would actually be fine if it didn’t cost 3 billion plus a YEAR and much of it in things that don’t affect current classroom - defined (overly generous) pensions and (overly generous) healthcare, largely for their retirees. I think if this place offered the same (low) quality of school at 1/2 property tax DCUM wouldn’t like the ego hit but would be fine with it — because they would have more money for Larlo’s supplementation.

I hate how teachers and retired teachers insist on compensation and health insurance coverage. The nerve of 'em!

/s

Again your response proves my point…entitled teachers are defensive when you even question the expense of public schools. If MCPS teachers delivered Massachusetts public school results may not question the expense of these benefits but they don’t, not by a long shot…

I am the PP you are responding to. I am not a teacher. However, I do believe that teachers are entitled to compensation. The Fair Labor Standards Act says so too.

Strawman. Literally NO ONE is saying teachers shouldn’t be paid. JFC.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The current state of MCPS would actually be fine if it didn’t cost 3 billion plus a YEAR and much of it in things that don’t affect current classroom - defined (overly generous) pensions and (overly generous) healthcare, largely for their retirees. I think if this place offered the same (low) quality of school at 1/2 property tax DCUM wouldn’t like the ego hit but would be fine with it — because they would have more money for Larlo’s supplementation.

I hate how teachers and retired teachers insist on compensation and health insurance coverage. The nerve of 'em!

/s

Again your response proves my point…entitled teachers are defensive when you even question the expense of public schools. If MCPS teachers delivered Massachusetts public school results may not question the expense of these benefits but they don’t, not by a long shot…

Massachusetts has independent town based school districts. Not county wide districts like MD. It is apples and oranges. You really can't compare the two states or school districts within each state.

Town based school districts are SO much better. MCPS is simply too large to meet the needs of its students.

So long as your town is wealthy. "I got mine! So there!"

Except Massachusetts massively outperforms Maryland across the board among all groups.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The current state of MCPS would actually be fine if it didn’t cost 3 billion plus a YEAR and much of it in things that don’t affect current classroom - defined (overly generous) pensions and (overly generous) healthcare, largely for their retirees. I think if this place offered the same (low) quality of school at 1/2 property tax DCUM wouldn’t like the ego hit but would be fine with it — because they would have more money for Larlo’s supplementation.

I hate how teachers and retired teachers insist on compensation and health insurance coverage. The nerve of 'em!

/s

Again your response proves my point…entitled teachers are defensive when you even question the expense of public schools. If MCPS teachers delivered Massachusetts public school results may not question the expense of these benefits but they don’t, not by a long shot…

Massachusetts has independent town based school districts. Not county wide districts like MD. It is apples and oranges. You really can't compare the two states or school districts within each state.

Town based school districts are SO much better. MCPS is simply too large to meet the needs of its students.

So long as your town is wealthy. "I got mine! So there!"

Except Massachusetts massively outperforms Maryland across the board among all groups.

Source?

I found this: https://profiles.doe.mass.edu/statereport/nextgenmcas.aspx

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The current state of MCPS would actually be fine if it didn’t cost 3 billion plus a YEAR and much of it in things that don’t affect current classroom - defined (overly generous) pensions and (overly generous) healthcare, largely for their retirees. I think if this place offered the same (low) quality of school at 1/2 property tax DCUM wouldn’t like the ego hit but would be fine with it — because they would have more money for Larlo’s supplementation.

I hate how teachers and retired teachers insist on compensation and health insurance coverage. The nerve of 'em!

/s

Again your response proves my point…entitled teachers are defensive when you even question the expense of public schools. If MCPS teachers delivered Massachusetts public school results may not question the expense of these benefits but they don’t, not by a long shot…

I am the PP you are responding to. I am not a teacher. However, I do believe that teachers are entitled to compensation. The Fair Labor Standards Act says so too.

Strawman. Literally NO ONE is saying teachers shouldn’t be paid. JFC.

Folks are definitely saying teachers should be paid less than they currently are, which is absurd.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The current state of MCPS would actually be fine if it didn’t cost 3 billion plus a YEAR and much of it in things that don’t affect current classroom - defined (overly generous) pensions and (overly generous) healthcare, largely for their retirees. I think if this place offered the same (low) quality of school at 1/2 property tax DCUM wouldn’t like the ego hit but would be fine with it — because they would have more money for Larlo’s supplementation.

I hate how teachers and retired teachers insist on compensation and health insurance coverage. The nerve of 'em!

/s

Again your response proves my point…entitled teachers are defensive when you even question the expense of public schools. If MCPS teachers delivered Massachusetts public school results may not question the expense of these benefits but they don’t, not by a long shot…

Massachusetts has independent town based school districts. Not county wide districts like MD. It is apples and oranges. You really can't compare the two states or school districts within each state.

Town based school districts are SO much better. MCPS is simply too large to meet the needs of its students.

So long as your town is wealthy. "I got mine! So there!"

Except Massachusetts massively outperforms Maryland across the board among all groups.

Please show us the data where Massachusetts students "massively outperform" Maryland students in comparable measures across the board among all groups.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The current state of MCPS would actually be fine if it didn’t cost 3 billion plus a YEAR and much of it in things that don’t affect current classroom - defined (overly generous) pensions and (overly generous) healthcare, largely for their retirees. I think if this place offered the same (low) quality of school at 1/2 property tax DCUM wouldn’t like the ego hit but would be fine with it — because they would have more money for Larlo’s supplementation.

I hate how teachers and retired teachers insist on compensation and health insurance coverage. The nerve of 'em!

/s

Again your response proves my point…entitled teachers are defensive when you even question the expense of public schools. If MCPS teachers delivered Massachusetts public school results may not question the expense of these benefits but they don’t, not by a long shot…

I am the PP you are responding to. I am not a teacher. However, I do believe that teachers are entitled to compensation. The Fair Labor Standards Act says so too.

Strawman. Literally NO ONE is saying teachers shouldn’t be paid. JFC.

Folks are definitely saying teachers should be paid less than they currently are, which is absurd.

People want results from this school system. Is that absurd?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The current state of MCPS would actually be fine if it didn’t cost 3 billion plus a YEAR and much of it in things that don’t affect current classroom - defined (overly generous) pensions and (overly generous) healthcare, largely for their retirees. I think if this place offered the same (low) quality of school at 1/2 property tax DCUM wouldn’t like the ego hit but would be fine with it — because they would have more money for Larlo’s supplementation.

I hate how teachers and retired teachers insist on compensation and health insurance coverage. The nerve of 'em!

/s

Again your response proves my point…entitled teachers are defensive when you even question the expense of public schools. If MCPS teachers delivered Massachusetts public school results may not question the expense of these benefits but they don’t, not by a long shot…

I am the PP you are responding to. I am not a teacher. However, I do believe that teachers are entitled to compensation. The Fair Labor Standards Act says so too.

Strawman. Literally NO ONE is saying teachers shouldn’t be paid. JFC.

Folks are definitely saying teachers should be paid less than they currently are, which is absurd.

People want results from this school system. Is that absurd?

How exactly will cutting teacher pay achieve that?